God! $320 for a stencil! Our price of stencil is usually from $128-$158.

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>i get paste stencils for about $320 USD, so that seems in line w/ what 
>you are all saying
>
>they usually take about 1 day turn since i am near silicon valley
>
>actually my assembler gets them but i pay for them
>
>the trouble is they sure prove to be a disincentive to what i feel to be 
>the worthy goal of 'continuous improvement'
>
>if we build 100 pcs of board before a rev spin we are doing well so i 
>guess $3.20 a board for a stencil is not too bad but when we do 5 
>different protos and then spin all the revs to the inevitable rev 'B' it 
>sure adds up to a lot of trashed stencils and money
>
>seems like there ought to be a better way
>
>the only thing i have come up with is putting 2-4 different boards on a 
>15" x 15" with about 1" between, this can save a bunch, especially on protos
>
>camtastic (2000!) makes it pretty easy
>
>darren, not sure what you mean it 'takes a while to burn that w/ manual 
>paste placement'
>
>are you saying you can do a lot of bds for $320 ?
>yes, maybe 2- 5 bds depending on the features
>
>what do you use ?
>
>a manual time/pressure dot dispenser like EFD?
>i have one of those and it is gathering dust now (actually we sometimes 
>use it for gluing things but not bd parts)
>
>for protos i gave up on that and just hand solder with the good old 
>metcal and a big jug of flux with a teensy needle tip on the end, it 
>does a better job i think - no solder balls
>
>either way both methods take a LONG time to build one or three boards
>
>i realize that w/ QFNs and BGAs a stencil is a must so i use those only 
>if they are a must do
>
>in fact after switching over to 0603s i am now switching back to 0805s 
>due to low volumes and the greater ease of troubleshooting and mods
>
>back to SIPAD...
>it appears that somewhere along the process, unless i have been 
>misinformed, they make a stencil and do what the assembler would do just 
>at a different point in time
>still, it does allow storage and therefore time shifting of that process
>
>ds
>
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>Darren wrote:
>> Hi Brad,
>> 
>> Depends if its laser cut or etched, about $350 - $500AUD
>> $270 - $385 odd USD. 3-5 days turn size about the same,
>> some places can't make them as large. Takes a while to
>> burn that with manual paste placement, the lead time can
>> be a problem also, most my clients don't have it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Darren Moore
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Velander
>>>Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2005 12:17
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Open Topic Forum
>>>Subject: RE: [OT] Re: [PEDA] OT- SIPAD PCB's
>>>
>>>
>>>Darren, Dennis,
>>>     Roughly what is it that you guys typically pay for a 
>>>screen? We get ours (typ. 15x15 in. or 20x20 in. 
>>>stainless/cast frame) on a 3 day turn for $380 CDN (approx. 
>>>$320US). However that may be priced for at least moderate 
>>>value sales. We probably purchase about 30 - 50 screens per year.
>>>     We buy screens for any prototype that's complex (SMT 
>>>comp count > 200, lots of fine pitch) or pretty much anything 
>>>that has a good chance of making it to full production.
>>>
>>>Sincerely,
>>>Brad Velander
>>>Senior PCB Designer
>>>Northern Airborne Technology
>>>#14 - 1925 Kirschner Road,
>>>Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7.
>>>tel (250) 763-2329 ext. 225
>>>fax (250) 762-3374
>> 
>
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