Hi. I tend to download the programs from the BBC to my phone for later viewing. I had installed the BBCI player to my phone and it's very accessible. You have the choice of streeming the recording or downloading it for later viewing. Now if every TV station other than the BBC offered this free service then I wouldn't even have a TV and the TV License wouldn't need to be renewed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Problems Playing WMV and MOV Files


Victoria, I was refering to the BBC's Iplayer TV catch up streams which I
doubt are available outside of the UK.

You do need a pretty fast connection to sustain TV streaming, particularly at the high definition rate which approaches broadcast quality here in the uK.

Ray

Victoria Vaughan wrote:
Ray, Please, What do you mean by "Stream TV"? Is there a way to find TV
programming on internet?  Are you, by chance, using "Fan Cast"?  When I
tried that, its constant pausing for "Rebuffering", drove me crazy!

Many thanks! Vicky
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray" <rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:38 PM
Subject: RE: Problems Playing WMV and MOV Files


Caroline, I omitted to say there is something called Quicktime Alternative
which is supposed to make life easier for screen reader users, though it
wasn't developped specially for us.  I think it allows you to play
material
outside of the browser rather than the ebbeding imposed by web designers
when
using Quictime.  there is a Wiki on Quicktime Alternative should you want
to
follow that up, but you seem to be getting along with QT.

Must admit it's ages since I sued the IPlayer downloader.  I just stream
TV
programmes now.  Often wondered if it's possible to record the video as
well
as the sound while watching, but not looked into that.

Do let us know if you have success getting downloaded programmes to play
in WMP.
Ray

Caroline Ford wrote:
Ray,

I have at last managed to find a solution of sorts.  A download of
QuickTime
for Windows has at least allowed me to play my MOV file.  I am now
re-downloading the WMV files in MOV format to be able to play those too as the WMV files still stubbornly refuse to play. I've read through the help
on the iPlayer site but it didn't address the problem I have.  I think no
DRM licences are being downloaded although WMP is set to allow them.  It
is
all rather frustrating, but at least I have found a workaround.  As you
say,
QuickTime is not the most accessible player ever invented, but I have
found
enough keystrokes to make it usable.

I don't think my situation was helped by me still having the old iPlayer
Download Manager instead of the newer version.  That just shows how long
it
is since I last tried to download anything from the iPlayer.  Strangely
enough it didn't even prompt me that I still had an obsolete version of
the
downloader on my PC and I only found out about it from the article you
posted and then the iPlayer help.

Definitely a work in progress.

Caroline.

-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ray
Sent: 01 November 2009 22:28
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Problems Playing WMV and MOV Files

Caroline, I'm not surprised the Beeb isn't making it easy to play
downloaded
files in other media players because, after all, the licence you're
granted
to
play these does in the normal way of playing them expire in 28 days or
something like that.

I wonder though if there is an extra DRM module or plug-in for Windows
Media
Player that would allow you to play these programs in WMP. The BBC itself
might be prepared to answer this question.

As an aside I'm rather surprised the Beeb hasn't closed the seeming loop
hole
where people are downloading radio programmes as that's not what is
supposed
to happen. there agreement with copyright holders is for 7 days streaming
availability after a programme goes out.  Still, a bit off the subject I
know.

Hope you get an answer to this Caroline and I see you've posted this issue
on
Access-UK so who knows, maybe an answer will yet surface there.

Ray

Caroline Ford wrote:
Ray,

Thank you for the advice.  I have read the article but it doesn't seem to
offer much help as to what the problem is.  The files I am trying to play
are downloaded programmes from the BBC iPlayer so they will have DRM
protection. I have been able to stream a short sample of these programmes
successfully just to make sure everything was working properly, and then
proceeded to download the two versions on offer, one for portable players
and one for Windows Media Player. Neither of these will play on my PC. I
don't know whether there's something I need to do to allow Windows Media
Player to play DRM files, but I have checked for updates and am already
running version 11 with no updates on offer.  I'm surprised the BBC have
made it so fiendishly difficult to play these files.  Perhaps they prefer
people just to stream their programmes instead.

Caroline.




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