On Jul 21, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Louis Proyect <[email protected]> wrote: > On 7/21/15 11:26 AM, Marv Gandall wrote: >> The indictment against the Syriza leadership has been that it has >> squandered time preparing a Plan B because of its illusions in >> securing debt relief without austerity within the current eurozone >> framework. > > What you call an illusion I call a mistake. For example, many people on > the left including you thought that Obama was a progressive. You banged > on about that for as long as it would take to convert the euro back to a > drachma. In all that time, I had the good sense not to use the invective > you have used against me.
You poor dear. I didn’t realize you were so sensitive to “invective”, or that I had engaged in any. I don’t want to get into another empty discussion about the Democratic Party but, for the record, I never regarded or said Obama was a progressive in 2008. Like a large part of the US left, I thought his campaign would raise the expectations of millions of new working class, student, and minority American voters and create new opportunities for the left when he inevitably disappointed. He disappointed, as I and others anticipated, but it never translated into an organized opposition of any consequence within the DP. By 2012, that possibility had disappeared completely. The Sanders campaign presents an analogous opportunity. For those who would like to build an alternative to the Democratic Party, the approach of Socialist Alternative strikes me as the least sectarian. This is the group to which Kashama Sawant, the insurgent Seattle city councillor, belongs. http://www.socialistalternative.org/2014/04/16/bernie-sanders-for-president-in-2016-2/ _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
