On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 11:45:27AM +0200, Juerd wrote:
> David Storrs skribis 2004-04-14 22:39 (-0700):
> > Very top row, one space right of the F12 key.  Extremely awkward.
> > (This is a US keyboard on a Dell Inspiron 5100 laptop.)
> 
> That is inconvenient.

Yup.

> > 1) ` looks like it should be a bracketing operator
> 
> I think you means circumfix/balanced operator. 

If you prefer those terms, sure.

> > 2) In some fonts, ` is hard to see.
> > 3) In some fonts, ` is hard to disambiguate from ' if you can see it.
> 
> In some fonts, the difference between () and {} is hard to see.
> In some fonts, the difference between 1, l and I is hard to see.
> In some fonts, the difference between 0 and O is hard to see.
> In some fonts, the , is hard to see.
> In some fonts, " and '' look exactly the same.

All true.


> Don't use those fonts when programming, period. Use a fixed width font.
> No fixed width font that I have ever seen makes ` hard to see.

I am currently using a fixed width font to read this message.  ` is
hard to see.


> > 4) This argument has not been made strongly enough (...)
> 
> I'm not here to do anything weakly, strongly or forcefully.

s/strongly/convincingly/


> > 5) I use `` in short utility scripts all the time, and would hate to
> >      lose it.  To anyone who says that that is dangerous and should be
> >      discouraged--my machine, my code, my problem.  (And I work for
> >      myself, so I am the only one who will be maintaining it.)
> 
> As said in several messages in this thread before, `` does not have to
> go to support %hash`key. %hash`key has already been succesfully
> implemented in perl 5.8.3 and does not harm `` there at all.

You point is granted.  However, mine still stands.

--Dks

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