It's quite clear, from the prior discussion, that etinc is inferior. Anyone reading the archives will see this simply from the number of people on this list who have put it down, but only Dennis ([EMAIL PROTECTED] !!!) actually thinks it's any good.
Nobody else does, everybody else thinks it's way too expensive for what it does. Now go away dennis, before you cause us to pick further holes in your product. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dom De Vitto Tel. 07855 805 271 http://www.devitto.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 5:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pf/altq on a fast link [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kent R. Spillner) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Dennis wrote: > > "FREE" isnt really cheaper when you spend $1000's worth of your time > > to make it work, and then end up with an inferior solution when > > you're done. > > -1, Troll > > This is a pf list. pf does not require investing $1000s worth of your > time to "make it work." pf is not an inferior solution. > > Go peddle your "p2p sniffer" and your lies elsewhere. openbsd-pf is a good firewall. But as a bandwidth management tool it's quite inferior. Priority queuing is an archaic, inferior technology, if you can call it a technology. The subject here is "pf/altq" on a fast link. How does it perform on a gigabit wire with stats gathering and limits configured for 5000 hosts? How does granular, duration controlled bursting work? does it automatically pace traffic to reduce queue depths when a point of congestion is reached? There's nothing wrong with an open-source firewall. But an ISP need a separate bandwidth management box. Anyone that thinks they can do it with the free stuff is settling for a trivial solution that will cost them in the long run. The ethical thing to do, when someone asks about using pf/altq for a high-volume business, is to tell them the truth. They need something a bit better. DB etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc etinc