I liked it better when he had the fat singing.  I will tell you something 
and you can take it to the bank - fat doesn't sing.  After I gave birth to 
my third child I had 20 pounds of baby fat to lose and that baby fat didn't 
sing!!!  It took almost a year to for me to get rid of it.

CW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zebnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: Iceland Takes Over Kaupthing as Biggest Banks Fail..........the 
fat lady sings



I don't think you understand this whole "fat lady sings" analogy.

On Oct 9, 4:24 pm, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Iceland Takes Over Kaupthing as Biggest Banks Fail (Update5)
>
> By Tasneem Brogger
>
> Oct. 9 (Bloomberg) -- Iceland's government seized control of
> Kaupthing Bank hf, the nation's biggest bank, completing the takeover
> of a financial industry that collapsed under the weight of foreign
> debt.
>
> Iceland is guaranteeing Kaupthing's domestic deposits and helping
> manage the banks to provide a ``functioning domestic banking system,''
> the country's Financial Supervisory Authority said in a statement on
> its Web site today.
>
> Glitnir Bank hf, Landsbanki Island hf and Kaupthing are unable to
> finance about $61 billion of debt, 12 times the size of the economy,
> according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Their collapse has affected
> 420,000 British and Dutch customers, and frozen assets held by
> universities, hospitals, councils and even London's police force. The
> government is seeking a loan from Russia and may ask for aid from the
> International Monetary Fund to help guarantee deposits.
>
> ``This looks like a total collapse,'' said Thomas Haugaard Jensen, an
> economist at Svenska Handelsbanken AB in Copenhagen. ``It'll take
> several years before the economy can start to return to growth.''
>
> All trading in Iceland's equity markets is suspended until Oct. 13 due
> to ``unusual market conditions,'' the country's exchange said today.
> The FSA said it planned to form a new bank with Landsbanki's domestic
> operations, keeping open branches, call centers and cash machines.
>
> Currency Peg
>
> Trading in the krona ground to a halt today after the central bank
> yesterday ditched an attempt to fix the exchange rate at 131 krona to
> the euro. Nordea Bank AB, the biggest Scandinavian lender, said the
> krona hadn't been traded on the spot market today, while the last
> quoted price was 340 per euro, compared with 122 a month ago.
>
> Assets at Iceland's three biggest banks had grown five-fold since 2004
> as the companies looked to expand beyond the confines of an island
> with a population of 320,000, half that of Las Vegas. Much of that
> growth was debt financed, helping send gross external debt to 9.55
> trillion kronur at the end of the second quarter, equivalent to
> $276,622 for every person on the island.
>
> The cost of borrowing in dollars for three months in London soared to
> the highest level this year today as coordinated interest-rate
> reductions worldwide failed to revive lending among banks for any
> longer than a day, partly on concern over who holds Icelandic debt.
>
> U.K. taxpayers will probably face a bill of at least 2.4 billion
> pounds ($4.1 billion) to compensate about 300,000 U.K. holders of
> accounts at Icesave, a unit of Landsbanki, the Financial Times
> reported, citing unidentified U.K. officials.
>
> `Severe Recession'
>
> ``The economy may well contract more than 10 percent between now and
> the end of this crisis,'' said Lars Christensen, chief analyst at
> Danske Bank A/S in Copenhagen. ``Inflation will jump to at least 50
> percent to 75 percent in the coming months.''
>
> To avert the collapse, Iceland will start talks with Russia on Tuesday
> to secure a loan of as much as 4 billion euros ($5.48 billion), Prime
> Minister Geir Haarde said late yesterday. He added that loans from the
> IMF and Russia ``are not mutually exclusive,'' though the government
> hadn't, ``at this point at least,'' asked the IMF for a standby loan
> or an economic program.
>
> Fitch Ratings Ltd. cut Iceland's long-term foreign currency issuer
> default rating to BBB- from A-. The rating remains on negative watch,
> Fitch said.
>
> ``Iceland faces a very severe recession which will result in a further
> deterioration in banks' domestic assets,'' Fitch said in a statement.
> ``It remains uncertain as to the extent that the sovereign can
> distance itself from the foreign liabilities of failing Icelandic
> banks.''
>
> Kaupthing's entire board of directors has resigned and the FSA has
> appointed a committee to wind up the lender's business, the bank said
> in a statement today.
>
> No Parallel
>
> ``It's difficult to find any parallels to what's happening in Iceland
> in the industrialized world,'' Jensen said. ``You'd have to look to
> emerging markets, and after the Asian crisis, for example, those
> economies contracted about 10 percent.''
>
> The debts of the Icelandic banking system are too big for the
> government to repay.
>
> ``There is no way that the Icelandic population can assume
> responsibility for the private debt'' that the banks have built up,
> Haarde said yesterday.
>
> Other countries are in a better situation. The U.K.'s banks will get a
> 50 billion-pound ($87 billion) government lifeline and emergency loans
> from the central bank after the freeze in credit markets threatened to
> bring down the financial system.
>
> The Federal Reserve, the European Central Bank and four other central
> banks lowered interest rates yesterday in a coordinated effort to ease
> the economic effects of the worst financial crisis since the Great
> Depression.
>
> This year and next, Kaupthing has 5 billion euros of debt obligations
> maturing, according to Bloomberg data. Glitnir's debt obligations over
> the same period are about 4 billion euros and Landsbanki has about 2
> billion euros to finance.
>
> To contact the reporters on this story: Tasneem Brogger in Copenhagen
> at [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>
> Last Updated: October 9, 2008 14:26 EDT
>
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