It is a little strange that Doric/Frank/Lone Wolf doesn't get it. Doric/Frank/Lone Wolf claims to live in Australia (although I doubt he is Australian born) and any trip to Sydney would include a visit to the (somewhat odd IMO) opera house where "the fat sings" regularly. LMBO!!!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 5:19 PM Subject: Re: Iceland Takes Over Kaupthing as Biggest Banks Fail..........the fat lady sings ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yes Zeb, he has certainly shown, time and again, that he doesn't "get it", on many things... On Oct 9, 2:15 pm, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I liked it better when he had the fat singing. I will tell you something > and you can take it to the bank - fat doesn't sing. After I gave birth to > my third child I had 20 pounds of baby fat to lose and that baby fat > didn't > sing!!! It took almost a year to for me to get rid of it. > > CW > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zebnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PoliticalForum" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 5:00 PM > Subject: Re: Iceland Takes Over Kaupthing as Biggest Banks > Fail..........the > > fat lady sings > > I don't think you understand this whole "fat lady sings" analogy. > > On Oct 9, 4:24 pm, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Iceland Takes Over Kaupthing as Biggest Banks Fail (Update5) > > > By Tasneem Brogger > > > Oct. 9 (Bloomberg) -- Iceland's government seized control of > > Kaupthing Bank hf, the nation's biggest bank, completing the takeover > > of a financial industry that collapsed under the weight of foreign > > debt. > > > Iceland is guaranteeing Kaupthing's domestic deposits and helping > > manage the banks to provide a ``functioning domestic banking system,'' > > the country's Financial Supervisory Authority said in a statement on > > its Web site today. > > > Glitnir Bank hf, Landsbanki Island hf and Kaupthing are unable to > > finance about $61 billion of debt, 12 times the size of the economy, > > according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Their collapse has affected > > 420,000 British and Dutch customers, and frozen assets held by > > universities, hospitals, councils and even London's police force. The > > government is seeking a loan from Russia and may ask for aid from the > > International Monetary Fund to help guarantee deposits. > > > ``This looks like a total collapse,'' said Thomas Haugaard Jensen, an > > economist at Svenska Handelsbanken AB in Copenhagen. ``It'll take > > several years before the economy can start to return to growth.'' > > > All trading in Iceland's equity markets is suspended until Oct. 13 due > > to ``unusual market conditions,'' the country's exchange said today. > > The FSA said it planned to form a new bank with Landsbanki's domestic > > operations, keeping open branches, call centers and cash machines. > > > Currency Peg > > > Trading in the krona ground to a halt today after the central bank > > yesterday ditched an attempt to fix the exchange rate at 131 krona to > > the euro. Nordea Bank AB, the biggest Scandinavian lender, said the > > krona hadn't been traded on the spot market today, while the last > > quoted price was 340 per euro, compared with 122 a month ago. > > > Assets at Iceland's three biggest banks had grown five-fold since 2004 > > as the companies looked to expand beyond the confines of an island > > with a population of 320,000, half that of Las Vegas. Much of that > > growth was debt financed, helping send gross external debt to 9.55 > > trillion kronur at the end of the second quarter, equivalent to > > $276,622 for every person on the island. > > > The cost of borrowing in dollars for three months in London soared to > > the highest level this year today as coordinated interest-rate > > reductions worldwide failed to revive lending among banks for any > > longer than a day, partly on concern over who holds Icelandic debt. > > > U.K. taxpayers will probably face a bill of at least 2.4 billion > > pounds ($4.1 billion) to compensate about 300,000 U.K. holders of > > accounts at Icesave, a unit of Landsbanki, the Financial Times > > reported, citing unidentified U.K. officials. > > > `Severe Recession' > > > ``The economy may well contract more than 10 percent between now and > > the end of this crisis,'' said Lars Christensen, chief analyst at > > Danske Bank A/S in Copenhagen. ``Inflation will jump to at least 50 > > percent to 75 percent in the coming months.'' > > > To avert the collapse, Iceland will start talks with Russia on Tuesday > > to secure a loan of as much as 4 billion euros ($5.48 billion), Prime > > Minister Geir Haarde said late yesterday. He added that loans from the > > IMF and Russia ``are not mutually exclusive,'' though the government > > hadn't, ``at this point at least,'' asked the IMF for a standby loan > > or an economic program. > > > Fitch Ratings Ltd. cut Iceland's long-term foreign currency issuer > > default rating to BBB- from A-. The rating remains on negative watch, > > Fitch said. > > > ``Iceland faces a very severe recession which will result in a further > > deterioration in banks' domestic assets,'' Fitch said in a statement. > > ``It remains uncertain as to the extent that the sovereign can > > distance itself from the foreign liabilities of failing Icelandic > > banks.'' > > > Kaupthing's entire board of directors has resigned and the FSA has > > appointed a committee to wind up the lender's business, the bank said > > in a statement today. > > > No Parallel > > > ``It's difficult to find any parallels to what's happening in Iceland > > in the industrialized world,'' Jensen said. ``You'd have to look to > > emerging markets, and after the Asian crisis, for example, those > > economies contracted about 10 percent.'' > > > The debts of the Icelandic banking system are too big for the > > government to repay. > > > ``There is no way that the Icelandic population can assume > > responsibility for the private debt'' that the banks have built up, > > Haarde said yesterday. > > > Other countries are in a better situation. The U.K.'s banks will get a > > 50 billion-pound ($87 billion) government lifeline and emergency loans > > from the central bank after the freeze in credit markets threatened to > > bring down the financial system. > > > The Federal Reserve, the European Central Bank and four other central > > banks lowered interest rates yesterday in a coordinated effort to ease > > the economic effects of the worst financial crisis since the Great > > Depression. > > > This year and next, Kaupthing has 5 billion euros of debt obligations > > maturing, according to Bloomberg data. Glitnir's debt obligations over > > the same period are about 4 billion euros and Landsbanki has about 2 > > billion euros to finance. > > > To contact the reporters on this story: Tasneem Brogger in Copenhagen > > at [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > Last Updated: October 9, 2008 14:26 EDT > > > Email this article Printer friendly format- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
