Every industry from health-care, education, telecommunications, energy
and transport are in a state of total dysfunction once they were
transformed from utilities to serve social need, to instruments for
extracting profit for private greed.


On Aug 20, 2:45 am, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote:
> Your question seems to betray a complete inability to think
> Private markets produce everything better than government, from shoes to
> aspirin.
>
> Vaccines are heavily regulated and the government decides which ones shall
> be made and who shall get them,and it once again has fucked it up by its own
> metrics
>
> Vaccine Production Is Horribly Outdated. Here Are 3 Ways to Fix It.
>
> The traditional method of growing vaccines in chicken eggs may be too slow
> and inefficient to protect the U.S.
> by Allison Bond
>
> published online July 27, 2009
>
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> Current vaccine production methods
>
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>
> From the day it was first
> reported<http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm58d0430a2.htm> in
> Mexico, swine flu took less than four months to become a full-fledgedworldwide
> pandemic<http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/06/10/swine-flu-to-be-...>.
> So what’s the most effective way to stop the virus from infecting most of
> the globe? Widespread vaccination—which is why U.S. health officials are
> debating a nationwide swine flu vaccination
> program<http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/07/10/how-the-federal-...>
> that
> would mandate the creation of 600 million immunizations, more than five
> times the 115 million vaccines administered each
> year<http://http//www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31571476/ns/health-swine_flu/>
> to
> battle the seasonal flu.
>
> Because of the flu virus’s notorious ability to mutate, a large-scale
> immunization program would require manufacturers to quickly produce vast
> quantities of vaccine.
>
> Unfortunately for all of us, it’s unlikely that current vaccine production
> methods<http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/04/28/as-swine-flu-spr...>—which
> have been in use for more than half a century—could produce the quantity of
> vaccine that would be necessary in an emergency. Today’s vaccine production
> is so slow, costly, and inefficient that the U.S. Department of Health and
> Human Services allotted $1 billion in
> 2006<http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/library/news/2006/05/sec-06050...>
> toward
> the development of new techniques.
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> With the first trials for a swine flu
> vaccine<http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/07/24/swine-flu-vaccin...>
> currently
> underway in Australia, the question of how to produce huge quantities of
> vaccine quickly has never been more pressing. In particular, three new
> techniques under development could be the answer should another pandemic
> occur.
>
> Vaccines work by exposing the body to particles called antigens, which
> trigger an immune response. In most modern vaccines, antigens come in the
> form of bits of deactivated virus. When the body senses these particles, it
> kick-starts specialized immune defenses, including the production of immune
> cells known as lymphocytes, which learn to recognize and attack viral DNA.
> Once the body eliminates the invaders, it stores a "memory" of that
> particular invader for years, guarding against future infections.
>
> The traditional way to produce vaccines involves injecting live viruses into
> a fertilized chicken egg, then letting the egg incubate and become infected
> with the virus. Afterwards, the liquid inside the egg is removed and mixed
> with an embalming fluid called formalin. It renders the virus incapable of
> causing an infection but still provokes the immune response that will
> protect vaccine recipients against future infections. Not all vaccines are
> produced using the same antiquated system; for example, the HPV vaccine
> known as Gardasil, which was approved by the FDA in 2006, is made in yeast
> cells. But flu vaccines are still produced within eggs.
>
> Unfortunately, this process is fraught with problems: It’s slow (the eggs
> typically need to incubate for about half a year), inefficient (on average,
> it takes one to two
> eggs<http://www.scribd.com/doc/7010590/Flu-Vaccine-Eggs-and-CellCultures>
> to
> yield a single dose of vaccine), and unreliable: Not only can the eggs
> spoil, but they may also produce the virus at varying rates. As a result,
> the serum they yield may be too weak or impure to provide immunity with the
> lowest possible incidence of side effects.
>
> For these reasons, scientists are working on new methods to combat these
> problems. Of course, often the new methods present problems of their own,
> which the researchers must iron out before the techniques become ready for
> wide-scale production.
>
> *You Can't Have Dessert Till You Eat Your Vaccines*
> One technique involves genetically modifying edible plants to produce
> vaccine antigens. Scientists have already developed a potato that boosts
> immunity against Hepatitis B, and are working on vaccine-producing
> peanuts<http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T4X-4W0XB6...>
> .Rakesh Tuli <http://www.nbri-lko.org/>, of India’s National Botanical
> Research Institute in Lucknow, is developing antigen-spiked nuts to protect
> against cholera and rabies. He says that because the nut crop is high in
> protein, it produces vaccine antigens more efficiently than does a leafy
> plant. In fact, his analysis indicates that a football-sized field plot
> could yield 450 million doses of vaccine. “Two acres of land is enough to
> vaccinate a population the size of India,” Tuli says.
>
> Unfortunately, although these plants show promise, it’s questionable whether
> these edible vaccines will ever be mass-produced for flu or any other
> disease. The technique remains highly controversial among environmentalists,
> despite the enthusiasm of researchers like Tuli. “In the last few years,
> we’ve decided that it’s probably not a good idea to produce [vaccines] in
> food products,” says Hugh 
> Mason<http://sols.asu.edu/people/faculty/hmason.php>,
> an Arizona State University vaccine researcher who helped develop the first
> edible vaccine. “No matter how careful you are, even if you establish
> regulations, there’s always a chance that someone would not follow the
> guidelines,” thereby contaminating wild plants or food crops with
> genetically engineered ones, he explains. If modified plants escape into the
> natural environment, they could contaminate water supplies, irreversibly
> alter wild species, or even enter the human food chain, which nearly
> happened in 
> 2002<http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2002/dec/24/food.research>
> .
>
> There’s also the matter of antigen regulation. Because many of these
> genetically modified vaccines are meant to be eaten, it can be difficult to
> regulate exactly how much antigen a half-cup of potato or a handful of
> peanuts delivers. “Ultimately, an edible vaccine might lose its antigenic
> activity,” Mason says.
>
> Still, some scientists maintain their faith in plant-produced vaccines,
> saying that the plants could be grown in a greenhouse to make sure modified
> plant material remains separate from wildlife. “We are talking about
> isolated, protected cultivation to make sure that vaccine plants will not
> get mixed up with non-vaccine plants,” says Tuli, who believes the cost of
> an acre-large greenhouse would be small compared to the efficiency and
> savings of the new method.
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> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:39 PM, SgtUSMC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > How many units of vaccine has the civilian medical industry produced?
>
> > On Aug 18, 8:12 pm, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >  So the government bureaucrats we are supposed to let nationalize and
> > > centrally plan the medical industry have failed (again) to produce and
> > > deliver the number of units of flu vaccine they say are needed. Hmmmm.- 
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