Whoops, I should have said _leak_ rather than leek.
Regards,
LelandJ
On 11/17/2012 11:00 AM, lelandj wrote:
On 11/17/2012 09:55 AM, Michael Oke wrote:
Leland,
You really don't understand why the highest spook in the USA cannot
have an affair?
Why would having an affair be more of a threat to a possible security
leek, than having a friendly relationship with anyone else who shares
your same interests?
Sex happens, and preferences can vary widely, LOL, so standardizing
sex won't work. Sex is just part of human nature, and people can be
so easily temped when there's a strong attraction.
There are probably countless affairs going on right now between people
involved in every imaginable circumstance without regards to race,
religion, sexual preference, political affiliation, gender or high
positions in which the individual has access to sensitive
intelligence. Former CIA directory, David Petraeus, resigned;
because, he was outed by the FBI/CIA. As far as I know, he didn't
leek any classified information to anyone unauthorized to receive it.
The standard for anyone with classified information should be they
cannot disclose it to anyone not have the proper security clearance.
Regards,
LelandJ
Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are
intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 17, 2012, at 7:07 AM,
lelandj <lela...@mail.smvfp.com> wrote:
On 11/16/2012 06:07 AM, Charlie Coleman wrote:
At 05:59 AM 11/15/2012 -0600, lelandj wrote:
On 11/15/2012 03:12 AM, Michael Madigan wrote:
She was set up by the White House.
I don't think so. It was the CIA that feed Susan Rice the faulty
information, if it was in fact faulty. I'm not sure who arranged
to have her appear on Meet the Press shortly thereafter. The
investigation of the Benghazi attack continues,
...
Anyway, It also seems to me that David Petraeus was setup by the
intelligence community. After the FBI found evidence of an extra
Martial affair, and confirmed it by confronting both CIA Director
David Petraeus and Paula Broadwell ,
...
...If the CIA really wanted to protect Petraeus, his affair could
have remained under wraps...
No, no a thousand times no. Absolutely every citizen of the United
States needs to demand truth from its leaders. I don't care if it's
a local County official, the head of the FBI, a popular Republican
Senator, or the President. Every single governmental official is
living off the blood and sweat of others. They should have no
rights above ours, and in fact should be held to a much higher
standard of conduct. The mistakes they make can have far-reaching
impacts to the whole nation.
Charlie, this the USA; not Iraq, Iran, or Afghanistan. You need to
be able to distinguish between moral issue and legal issues. In
some countries these two separate things become entangled. You
should also recognize the difference between civil law and criminal
law. You should also recognize that a person's personal life is
separate from their life on the job, and each of us has the a right,
under the USA Constitution, to keep our personal life private.
Rights of every American should fall under the same standard. Nobody
should be afforded special right and privileges, nor should anyone
be subject to a higher standard that normal. This requires equal
treatment.
The scale of justice should be both blind and balanced. ---- Leland
Jackson
So, no, politicians, political appointees, judges, all of them need
to be held to the highest standards. We've stopped doing that and
we're in a decline because of it.
I'm not seeing it. Could you give me some verifiable examples.
Petraeus may have done a lot of good things but his resignation is
appropriate. And the revealing of it by the Intelligence Community
is absolutely right and just. Let's hope that the thousands of
other politicians take note and try to clean up their act. At least
while they're in office. And let's hope the Intelligence Community
continues to monitor all officials' correspondence and brings the
truth to light.
Why should one group of Americans be held to a higher standard than
the whole. Why should the government, including the intelligence
community, be allow to meddle into the personal affairs of
Americans? LOL - pun intended. The founding fathers of the USA,
having experienced first hand persecution, torture, alienation, and
other injustice from their governments, put strong privacy
protections into the USA Constitution to protect Americans against
an overreaching government.
But Leland's thoughts reflect the general sentiment of the country.
Since Clinton got away with lying about his affair the nation has
dropped it's expectations of elected officials dramatically (no it
wasn't "all" Clinton's fault, we have been declining for probably
40 years - but the Clinton debacle was a leap downwards). People in
the US need to wake up. But I'm sure they won't. We've been dumbed
down to blindly accept what the boob-tube spouts out in 15-second
sound-bites. We don't want to "question" and "think" - we want to
be entertained. We want promises that we'll get something for
nothing. We certainly don't want to hear about working hard and
moral issues. And for some reason we believe the wealthy has
cheated the rest of us and that they should be forced to give up
their money/property to be fair. Adversaries of the US and
democracy in general can rejoice. The Great Experiment is winding
down, proving out once again that man's greed and jealousy outweigh
his int
e
lligence
.
Get a life, Charlie. It really is OK. We're not the Taliban here in
the good old USA. LOL
Regards,
LelandJ
-Charlie
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