Actually, if you do not educate yourself, and discuss how to fix the problem, you will get more and more corzine's, madoff's, etc simply because businesses have proved that they will not regulate themselves.
I don't think I can attach a pdf file here, so I will attempt to show you what ten years has shown me, and believe me, back in 2003 when ya'll were helping me to rewrite my resume, I had no clue about any of this stuff. I simply have done my due diligence, and I have found it to be a very productive expenditure of my time. To keep it simple, we have 6 billion people in our world. Our whole world is comprised of people. Without business we could survive quite well via barter and the exchange of our skills. Now, to give our children, and our fellow citizens a decent life, I believe that we all agree that the American dream is founded on the principle that we will find a way to provide the balance between the business communities need for profit and the people's right to a life that should be better and richer and fuller for everyone, with opportunity for each according to ability or achievement regardless of social class or circumstances of birth. Now the people cannot maintain this balance because they do not have the financial resources to go head to head with the business community should they not work to develop and maintain this balance. And the business community has the financial resources to totally devastate the people of our world, which as in the example I showed earlier today, they are doing in a game of musical countries, and the people can do nothing about it. Which is why we need a government that understands that it is up to them to develop and maintain this balance. We, the people, have been neglect in our duty and we have elected people to run government like a business rather than people that understand that it is up to them to develop and maintain this balance. We, the people, have also been neglect in our duty because we have allowed our government to allow the very media that should be putting their finger on the scale above to maintain this balance. Yeah, I know it is heavy. Took me nearly ten years to understand it all And no, I do not have all the solutions. I just know that if we leave the business community to do as it pleases, it will destroy your future, just as it did mine, and trust me, I didn't feel this way until I saw the boot heels of capitalism. By the way, birth's is not the issue. The more people we have, the more that they can buy, the more that our businesses can sell. As long as they make more than what it costs to live in their community, that is. And the current path we are on is making it so that they make less than what it costs to live. Case in point, in 2002 I made $2,700 per week as a consultant. In 2012 I made $8,001.00 as an unemployed person, and that ended in march 2012 In 2002 I could afford anything anybody had for sale. In 2012 I couldn't afford a piece of used toilet paper. And I'm pretty sure the majority of people on this group have seen similar declines in their cash flow. -----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Geti Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:40 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Help save Southwest Fox My solution is to let business do what business does. The world is too complex for a government or any entity to set rules as to how it should work. Castration is not necessary. But governments are responsible for education and training to convince their people to limit births. Unfortunately the countries with the worse problems are run by dictators who don't care or it means more "slaves" to vote for them. It may be fun to discuss all the questions you raise but I consider it a non-productive expenditure of my time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virgil Bierschwale" < <mailto:vbier...@gmail.com> vbier...@gmail.com> To: "'ProFox Email List'" < <mailto:profox@leafe.com> profox@leafe.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 9:19 PM Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Help save Southwest Fox > So, what is your solution? > > > > Do you want to castrate everybody? > > > > Personally, I think you are wrong, but I also understand why you feel the > way you feel. > > > > There are only 3 possible scenarios: > > 1. Ever increasing wages for everybody > > 2. No wages > > 3. Ever decreasing wages for everybody > > > > Where we went wrong was we forced # 3 on the majority of the people while > rewarding a few with #1. > > > > So let me ask you a question. > > > > Would you rather be in a situation where a beer and a burger cost you a > thousand bucks, and you could afford it, or would you rather it cost a > nickel and you can't afford it. > > > > I ask, because that is the direction we are headed, and I'm doing my best > to > educate people that it does not have to be that way. > > > > For what it is worth, I'm a die hard capitalist. > > > > I just believe that capitalism without capitalists asking themselves these > simple questions is destroying our childrens future. > > > > . What is the role of business in a free society? > > . What about successful businesspeople? > > . Do businesses have responsibilities to the public that go beyond > the law? > > . What do they include? > > . What virtues does the practice of business instill? > > . What vices? > > . And what does it mean if the answers the general public gives to > these questions diverge significantly from those given by the business > elite? > > > > And I believe that if each country would adopt these 3 simple rules, we > could have capitalism and a better future for our children. > > > > . It is OK to grow, raise or manufacture your products here in > America and sell them to other countries and the same applies to those > countries. > > . It is OK to open retail or manufacturing branches in other > countries to offset the shipping problems as long as you hire the locals > to > work in those countries. > > . It is NOT OK to put the people in your country out of work, send > the growing, raising or manufacturing to another country and then import > those products back into your country. > > > > Nuff said. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ProFox [ <mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com> mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Geti > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:06 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Help save Southwest Fox > > > > It is called supply and demand. As long as people keep popping out babies > like what is happening now, the downward pressure on wages will go on and > on > around the world. > > > > Nick Geti > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Virgil Bierschwale" < < <mailto:vbier...@gmail.com> mailto:vbier...@gmail.com> > <mailto:vbier...@gmail.com> vbier...@gmail.com> > > To: "'ProFox Email List'" < < <mailto:profox@leafe.com> mailto:profox@leafe.com> <mailto:profox@leafe.com> profox@leafe.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:44 PM > > Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Help save Southwest Fox > > > > > >> Looks like I struck a nerve. > >> Didn't mean too. > >> > >> But since you raised the issue, do the math > >> > >> American median wage > >> 50,000 times 890 million for American and European nation population > >> > >> 1.2 billion for china population times 5,000 > >> 1.2 billion for india population times 1,860 > >> > >> Now let's study the laws of supply and demand. > >> > >> America and the European countries can purchase $44 and 1/2 trillion > >> dollars > >> China can purchase six trillion > >> India can purchase 2 and a 1/4 trillion dollars > >> > >> Now people like the example I supplied are putting the demand side of the > >> equation out of business which means that we (Europe and America ) cannot > >> purchase what we used too. > >> And since china and india are being used to supply us, that means that > >> they > >> are now losing business as well. > >> > >> It's simple math. > >> No politics involved. > >> > >> Just emotion, as in your case, not backed up by fact > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ProFox [ < <mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com> mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com> > <mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com> mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:38 AM > >> To: < <mailto:profox@leafe.com> mailto:profox@leafe.com> <mailto:profox@leafe.com> profox@leafe.com > >> Subject: [OT] Re: Help save Southwest Fox > >> > >> Just a ProTip: > >> > >> When you start using words like: > >> > >> communist > >> progressive > >> capitalism > >> America > >> destroyed > >> liberal > >> > >> Please consider adding [OT] to the subject. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Nicholas Geti < > < <mailto:ng...@optonline.net> mailto:ng...@optonline.net> <mailto:ng...@optonline.net> ng...@optonline.net> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> You are a progressive communist. It is called capitalism which has > >>> made America one of the most powerful economies in the world. It is > >>> now being destroyed by your liberal ideas. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virgil Bierschwale" < > >>> < <mailto:vbier...@gmail.com> mailto:vbier...@gmail.com> <mailto:vbier...@gmail.com> vbier...@gmail.com> > >>> To: "'ProFox Email List'" < < <mailto:profox@leafe.com> mailto:profox@leafe.com> <mailto:profox@leafe.com> profox@leafe.com> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:01 AM > >>> Subject: RE: Help save Southwest Fox > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I follow many magazines because of the things I do with Keep America > >>> At > >>>> Work. > >>>> > >>>> Advertising, which is the bulk of magazine content is way down which > >>>> is why the magazines are substantially thinner. > >>>> > >>>> It all ties back to this game of musical countries that is being > >>>> played out by people like this guy, among many. > >>>> > >>>> < <http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-**202_162-57590849/u.s-exec-**> http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-**202_162-57590849/u.s-exec-**> > <http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-**202_162-57590849/u.s-exec-**> http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-**202_162-57590849/u.s-exec-** > >>>> chip-starnes-held-host<http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57590849/u > >>>> .s-exec-chip-starnes-held-host> > >>>> age-by-factory-employees-in-**china-for-5th-day/ > >>>> > >>>> Why we do not put them behind bars for treason for destroying the > >>>> sovereign state of our nation is beyond me. > >>>> > >>>> First they destroy American jobs, which is where the demand for these > >>>> trade shows comes from by sending our work to china. > >>>> Then they lather and repeat by sending the Chinese jobs to india. > >>>> > >>>> All in a quest for zero wages and maximum profits. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> ______________________________**_________________ > >>> Post Messages to: < <mailto:ProFox@leafe.com> mailto:ProFox@leafe.com> <mailto:ProFox@leafe.com> ProFox@leafe.com > >>> Subscription Maintenance: > >>> > < <http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profox%3chttp:/mail.leafe.com/> http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profox%3chttp:/mail.leafe.com/> > <http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profox%3chttp:/mail.leafe.com/> http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**listinfo/profox<http://mail.leafe.com/ > >>> mailman/listinfo/profox> OT-free version of this list: > >>> < <http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**> http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**> <http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/**> http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/** > listinfo/profoxtech > >>> < < <http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech> http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech> > <http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech> http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech> > >>> Searchable Archive: > >>> > < <http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profox%3chttp:/leafe.com/archives/se> http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profox%3chttp:/leafe.com/archives/se> > <http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profox%3chttp:/leafe.com/archives/se> http://leafe.com/archives/**search/profox<http://leafe.com/archives/se > >>> arch/profox> This message: >>> < <http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/**> http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/**> > <http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/**> http://leafe.com/archives/**byMID/profox/** > >>> > <mailto:B876E94815D043F79208947BC51438**75@dual%3chttp://leafe.com/archives/ > byMI> > <mailto:B876E94815D043F79208947BC51438**75@dual%3chttp://leafe.com/archives/ byMI> B876E94815D043F79208947BC51438**75@dual<http://leafe.com/archives/byMI > >>> D/profox/B876E94815D043F79208947BC5143875@dual> > >>> > >>> ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions > >>> of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. 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