Hi,

I'm not sure about the discovery part - that seems to be more a meta- layer with data describing linked datasets (VoiD [1]). However, I agree that inference would have to be in layer 4 and up. Things like non-explicit object consolidation, vocabulary and ontology mapping, etc. will be necessary to integrate the data even beyond the point of explicit links.

@ravinder: I like the three layers you propose - is there a reference for that, or did you come up with it just now? I'd love to reference it in my PhD thesis!

Cheers,
Knud


[1] http://semanticweb.org/wiki/VoiD
On 15.12.2008, at 20:54, Juan Sequeda wrote:

Hi Ravinder,

Interesting points. I would say that Layer 4 would be "discovery". Furthermore, this would be an inference layer that would allow discovery. After having linked data, applications will be able to discover new data. So maybe layer 4 and up are part of the applications that enable discovery. Anyways, that is what I see what the semantic web is about: discovery and serendipity.

Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
www.juansequeda.com
www.semanticwebaustin.org


On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 11:16 AM, रविंदर ठाकुर (ravinder thakur) <ra vindertha...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Friends,


We have now reasonably good repository of linked data but i am not able to find any good application being made out of it. From the dicsussion on these mailing lists and other places, i got the feeling that everyone in semantic world thinks that semantic web is something big but unfortunately nobody is able to think of an application for _general public_ that can be based on semantic web data we have currently.


This led me to wonder that are there any more layers of information organization missing in the semantic web stack that are needed to generate good usable semantic web data which can be more useful for generating useful semantic apps . Few of the concepts i was thinking for upper layers to implement were like categorization, set formation(eg MIT passout in 2002), set intersection, etc. With these higher level layers I was hoping to build a system to find higher level relations say between places with low cancer rates and the food people eat there or any perticular gene found in such people.


The current semantic stack looks like this:
.....
layer5 (???)
layer4 ( ???)
layer3 linked facts (isa(mars,planet) AND partof(mars,solarsystem) AND mass(mars,6566.1255kg))
layer2 facts (isa(mars,planet), isa(cow,animal))
layer1 objects (eg cow, mars, man)



Are there any other thoughts on the need of layers above the layer 3 (linked data ) or these layers will be defined by the respective apps developers ? Even if there isn't any need, i would atleast like to have a discussion on the kind upper level layers we might need :)


thanks
ravinder thakur




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