Hi John, Don, Matthias, Bill, Mark , et al.,

It sounds like the group has an increasing interest, enthusiasm, commitment, and support to submit an abstract to SfN. If there is no objection, let's go for it.

Don, thanks for taking the lead on this. Is the deadline May 15? Some people will be away next week for WWW2007. You might want to consider creating a wiki page so that people who have been involved in the demo (use case, data conversion, coordination ...) can participate (just my personal suggestion). Please let me know what I can do to help. I'll try to see if I can go to SfN this year as the SenseLab group was invited to give a demo at the INCF booth (International Neuroinformatics Coordinating Facility). I'll try to talk to Gordon to see if we can include a semantic web related demo there ...

Best,

-Kei

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hi don,

Works for me as well, and I'll be glad to help anyway I can.

thanks,

jb


Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 17:00:09 -0400 From: William Bug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: public-semweb-lifesci hcls <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org> Subject: Re: SfN meeting submission Quoting William Bug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hi Don,

This works for me.

In regards to the suggestion Mark made, I think some of his suggestions sound very practical. I'd be glad to participate - or not - depending on the need and intended outcome.

With this in mind, if you'd like someone to vet what you work up - or work with you on it, Don - I'd be glad to do that.

Cheers,
Bill

On May 3, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Donald Doherty wrote:

Here's my proposal:

I write a quick rough draft and send a copy to all interested parties.
People actually contributing to the writing should mostly be neuroscientists
but of course include input from the rest.

Then I'll take all of the input and work up a revised abstract and send it
back out to all interested parties for further feedback.

Repeat until everyone is happy and/or we run out of time. Then we decide to
submit or not.

About authors, here is the Neuroscience community standard. First author is
usually the graduate student and last author is usually the principal
investigator.

Submitter must be first author...so if I take this on everyone must be
comfortable with me being the grad student :^). We should probably put the
person who put the most sweat into the demo as last author.

Hopefully the author issue won't be too divisive since this is simply an
abstract. The important thing is that everyone is acknowledged.

Of highest importance is that the demo gets in front of the neuroscience
community at their biggest meeting.

What do you think?

Don

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Hi Bill et al.,

I agree that it's important to make our SW/Neuro demo visible to the
neuroscience community. For example, I have asked Gordon Shepherd (PI of SenseLab) to look at the AD use case written by June, Gwen, et al to see if any comments/suggestions can be made. It would be great if we can get more neuroscientists involved to help make our work more scientifically relevant. I believe this would also help make SW technologically credible.

Regarding the SfN abstract, my concern is that we might not be able to
meet the deadline given that people are currently busy preparing for the upcoming demo at WWW2007 next week. In addition to what to write and how
to write it (it probably won't take long for an abstract),  we need to
discuss how the author list should appear. All these may take some time
to resolve as part of the community process, but we'd better start
thinking/discussing about it soon ...

Cheers,

-Kei

William Bug wrote:
Hi Don, Matthias, John, Kei, et al.,

I too would like to contribute to an SfN abstract in this context.

I believe given the domain HCLS IG is covering - neurodegenerative
disease - despite the lack of a full, refereed article, this is a very
important venue in which to present, in order to help bolster the
relevance and credibility of this effort to the general neuroscience
community.  With a working demo, it would be a shame NOT to have it
represented at the SfN meeting.

We could also look to use such an abstract as starting material for a
full submission to journals that cover neuroinformatics such as
Neuroinformatics, PLoS Computational Biology, or Journal of
Computational Neuroscience.

In regards to relevant neuroscience meetings, there are also the
meetings hosted by:
Federation of European Neuroscience Societies (FENS):
http://fens.mdc-berlin.de/calendar/


International Brain Research Organization (IBRO):
http://www.ibro.org/Pub_Events_Search.asp?Search=.

The Japan Neuroscience Society
http://www.jnss.org/english/index_e.html
http://www2.convention.jp/neuro2007/

Federation of Asian and Oceanian Neuroscience Societies (FAONS)
http://www.faons.org/

I'm not certain what the deadlines are for the associated meetings.

Cheers,
Bill

On May 2, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Donald Doherty wrote:

Hi Matthias,

That'd be great! SfN abstracts are brief (max. 2300 characters including punctuation!) so focusing on the value to neuroscientists sounds like the
right course.

Abstract may be presented or posters. Slide presentations are kept very
brief and there is so much going on most people won't see a
particular slide
presentation. Even if we indicate our preference for a slide presentation
it's likely we wouldn't get it.

If we do a poster it will be up half a day. We can bring our demo machine and set it up next to the poster. (I've seen BIRN and others do this.
Wireless is generally available.) I think this is the preferred mode
for us.

There is also a $75 submission fee.

I'm willing to take responsibility for paying the submission fee, getting
the poster up, staying there while it's up, and working the demo as
long as
everyone is interested in doing this and a demo machine will be
available.

We won't get a paper out of it but I think it's worthwhile to expose the
end-user community (neuroscientists) to the value the Semantic Web
technologies may provide to them.

Best wishes,
Don

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Hi Don,

I would help with the abstract for SfN where I can, of course. I guess it
should be even more focussed on the requirements and use cases in
Neuroscience than the BMC Bioinformatics paper. Mainly a description
of the
collaborating neuroscience groups, their motivation and the types of
information that we are integrating, and less about the technical
details.

I guess it is much too late to start writing a group paper for the ISMB
workshop now. A poster abstract would be possible, but I think we
don't want
to present a poster.

cheers,
Matthias



This year's Society for Neuroscience meeting abstracts are due May 15th.
I'd
like to take the lead on submitting an abstract if the team is
interested.

Don

P.S. This year's meeting is November 3-7 in San Diego, California.

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I forget, was someone submitting an abstract about our work to this
workshop?
-Alan


On Apr 26, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Susanna wrote:

** Apologies for cross posting **CALL FOR PAPERS and POSTER
ABSTRACTS (Deadline May 1st)
Proceedings in BMC Bioinformatics

*^**^***^****^****^****^****^****^****^****^****^****^*****^**^*** ^**
Bio-Ontologies SIG Workshop
Vienna, Austria: July 20 2007

"Bio-Ontologies: ten years past and looking to the future"

*^**^***^****^****^****^****^****^****^****^****^****^*****^**^*** ^**
15th ISMB & 6th ECCB Vienna, Austria: July 18-25, 2007


CALL FOR PAPERS and POSTER ABSTRACTS (Deadline May 1st)
Proceedings in BMC Bioinformatics

The long-standing ISMB Bio-Ontologies SIG is in its tenth
consecutive year. This year the workshop will have a celebratory
and reflective discussion on "Bio-Ontologies: ten years past and
looking to the future".

PROGRAM CHAIRS:
Robert Stevens (1), Phillip Lord (2), Robin McEntire (3), Susanna-
A. Sansone (4)
1.    School of Computer Science, University of Manchester, UK
2.    School of Computing Science, University of Newcastle, UK
3.    GlaxoSmithKline, USA
4. EMBL-EBI The European Bioinformatics Institute, Cambridge, UK

WEBSITES:
Bio-Ontologies SIG workshop: http://bio-ontologies.org.uk
ISMB & ECCB main conference website http://www.iscb.org/ ismbeccb2007

ABOUT THE BIO-ONTOLOGIES SIG WORKSHOP
The workshop will continue offer an informal environment for
presentation and discussion of ontologies and their role in
providing a mechanism for organising, sharing and reconciling data. This year, to celebrate its tenth anniversary, we have invited four
presenters from the first bio-ontologies tutorial and meeting
organisers to sit on a panel, namely: Mark Musen, Peter Karp, Russ
Altman and Steffen Schulze-Kremer

They will be asked to present positions on the following questions:
1. What has been the best thing to have happened in bio-ontologies
in the past ten years?
2. What has been the worst thing to have happened in bio- ontologies
in the past ten years?
3. How must bio-ontologies progress in the next ten years?
4. How must bio-ontologies not progress in the next ten years

CALL FOR PAPERS AND POSTER ABSTRACT:
We are inviting two types of submissions SHORT PAPER papers (up to
4 pages) and POSTER ABSTRACT (up to 1/2 page) from any aspect doing
bio-ontology research or using bio-ontologies to do bioinformatics
research. Topics include, but are not restricted to:
- Biological Applications of Ontologies
- Reports on Newly Developed or Existing Bio-Ontologies
- Tools for Developing Ontologies
- Use of Ontologies in Data Communication Standards
- Use of Semantic Web technologies in Bioinformatics
- The implications of Bio-Ontologies or the Semantic Web for the
drug discovery process
- Current Research In Ontology Languages and its implication for
Bio-Ontologies

PROGRAM COMMITTEE
Abstracts will be reviewed by the Program Committee, including the
Program Chairs and additionally: David Benton, Suzanna Lewis, Chris
Mungall and Alan Ruttenberg.

PUBLICATION OF THE PROCEEDINGS
The Programme Committee will also select those papers, which are
suitable for further publication in a BMC Bioinformatics
Supplement. Authors will be invited to resubmit full papers.

DEADLINES
Submissions due: May 1st 2007
Notification of acceptance: May 21st 2007
Final versions due: May 31st 2007
Workshop: July 20th 2007

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