On 5/28/13 6:51 PM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote:
On May 28, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Kingsley Idehen <kide...@openlinksw.com <mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com>> wrote:On 5/28/13 5:04 PM, Richard Boyce wrote:I think this helps bioportal keep track of usage (to justify its existence) and reduce annoying bots. Also, I get updates from bioportal for having registered an account. -RBots are annoying, but they are part of the ecosystem.API keys are archaic and quite contradictory an RDF based Linked Data realm.Yup. There are more clever ways of accomplishing the desired goals outside inconveniencing every user with an api key. Seems to me the goals also have to do with tracking the usage of the URIs and the users of the resource.I have tried to advise the Bioportal team about the basic of linked data norms and etiquette in the past, but they seem to be slow to progress along the learning curve. Kingsley, may I suggest that you give specific advise on where changes would be desirable.
Alan, Some quick pointers: 1. They should look at using WebID + TLS (nee. FOAF+SSL) for authentication2. They can seek help from those that know how to apply the above to this problem.
I would start by paying particular attention to cases where bioportal URIs duplicate authoritative URIs given by the authors of the resources they aggregate. For example, Chris points out that OBO Foundry URIs are intended to be linked data friendly, and certainly Bioportal should not be rewriting these. But I'm sure you can give plenty of other advise that might help them learn the finer points.
Yes, but I am struggling to understand their goals based on the contradictory nature of the current publication which is described as being Linked Data oriented. Quite confusing, to say the least.
I remain, as always, at their disposal.
Naturally, you and I can chat if you have active involvement with this effort.
Kingsley
Regards, AlanRDF is about structured data enhanced with entity relationship semantics. If one actually looks to dog-food RDF you end up with solution to this broadly exposed problem. All that's required here is the construct RDF based data access policies that are driven by entity relationship semantics.Links: 1. http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebAccessControl -- Web Access Controls2. http://bit.ly/M7hd4T -- protecting SPARQL endpoints using RDF based entity relationship semantics 3. http://bit.ly/UuWZSI -- collection of posts about ACLs and Data Access policies.KingsleyOn 05/28/2013 04:54 PM, Jim McCusker wrote:I can see asking for an API key for working with computational resources (like Annotator and Ontology Recommender), but we don't need an API key to see those classes in HTML, why should we need one to see them in RDF?JimOn Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Peter Ansell <ansell.pe...@gmail.com <mailto:ansell.pe...@gmail.com>> wrote:Hi Kingsley, I think you may need an API key to work with them? [1] Cheers, Peter [1] http://www.bioontology.org/wiki/index.php/NCBO_REST_services On 29 May 2013 05:55, Kingsley Idehen <kide...@openlinksw.com <mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com>> wrote: All, Who are the folks responsible for URIs such as: 1. <http://purl.bioontology.org/ontology/NCIM/C0144157> ? 2. <http://purl.bioontology.org/ontology/MSH/C010843> ? I ask due to the following curl output: HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 19:46:48 GMT Server: 1060 NetKernel v3.3 - Powered by Jetty Location: http://bioportal.bioontology.org/virtual/1499/C0144157 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Purl: 2.0; http://localhost:8080 <http://localhost:8080/> Expires: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 GMT Content-Length: 287 Connection: close HTTP/1.1 404 Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 19:46:48 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) X-Powered-By: Phusion Passenger (mod_rails/mod_rack) 3.0.18 Cache-Control: no-cache Set-Cookie: _bp_session=61cc2ee75b3abf041d7df4ada339ce68; domain=.bioontology.org <http://bioontology.org/>; path=/; HttpOnly Content-Length: 6468 Status: 404 Connection: close Content-Type: */*; charset=utf-8 And: curl -ILH "Accept: text/turtle" http://purl.bioontology.org/ontology/MSH/C010843 HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 19:54:21 GMT Server: 1060 NetKernel v3.3 - Powered by Jetty Location: http://bioportal.bioontology.org/virtual/1351/C010843 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Purl: 2.0; http://localhost:8080 <http://localhost:8080/> Expires: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 GMT Content-Length: 286 Connection: close HTTP/1.1 302 Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 19:54:21 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) X-Powered-By: Phusion Passenger (mod_rails/mod_rack) 3.0.18 Cache-Control: no-cache X-Runtime: 12 Set-Cookie: _bp_session=9889b1bed12d58172331ce1bbf42d516; domain=.bioontology.org <http://bioontology.org/>; path=/; HttpOnly Location: http://bioportal.bioontology.org/visualize/46836/?conceptid=C010843 Content-Length: 133 Status: 302 Vary: Accept-Encoding Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 HTTP/1.1 301 Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 19:54:21 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) X-Powered-By: Phusion Passenger (mod_rails/mod_rack) 3.0.18 Cache-Control: no-cache X-Runtime: 17 Set-Cookie: _bp_session=17e1fddfad5145ef1b6217dc6a76570c; domain=.bioontology.org <http://bioontology.org/>; path=/; HttpOnly Location: http://bioportal.bioontology.org/ontologies/46836?p=terms&conceptid=C010843 Content-Length: 145 Status: 301 Vary: Accept-Encoding Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 HTTP/1.1 200 Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 19:54:21 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) X-Powered-By: Phusion Passenger (mod_rails/mod_rack) 3.0.18 X-Runtime: 149 ETag: "2d0e7a20547ae7fa0b9fd221222016e6" Cache-Control: private, max-age=0, must-revalidate Set-Cookie: _bp_session=0770e84c6238dfdcc24bb8e0f65a8faf; domain=.bioontology.org <http://bioontology.org/>; path=/; HttpOnly Content-Length: 93664 Status: 200 Vary: Accept-Encoding Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8--Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder & CEO OpenLink Software Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com <http://www.openlinksw.com/> Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/%7Ekidehen> Twitter/Identi.ca <http://Identi.ca> handle: @kidehen Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen -- Jim McCusker Programmer Analyst Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics Yale School of Medicinejames.mccus...@yale.edu <mailto:james.mccus...@yale.edu> | (203) 785-4436 http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu <http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu/>PhD Student Tetherless World Constellation Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute mcc...@cs.rpi.edu <mailto:mcc...@cs.rpi.edu> http://tw.rpi.edu <http://tw.rpi.edu/>-- Richard D Boyce, PhD Assistant Professor of Biomedical Informatics Faculty, Geriatric Pharmaceutical Outcomes and Gero-Informatics Research and Training Program Scholar, Comparative Effectiveness Research Program University of Pittsburgh rd...@pitt.edu Office: 412-648-9219 Twitter: @bhaapgh-- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder & CEO OpenLink Software Company Web:http://www.openlinksw.com Personal Weblog:http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter/Identi.ca <http://Identi.ca> handle: @kidehen Google+ Profile:https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
-- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder & CEO OpenLink Software Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
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