On 4/29/2026 7:44 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 12:31:06PM -0700, Pierrick Bouvier wrote:
>> On 4/24/2026 8:40 AM, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 24/4/26 16:55, Alex Bennée wrote:
>>>
>>>> The KVM/QEMU community call is at:
>>>>
>>>> https://meet.jit.si/kvmcallmeeting
>>>> @
>>>> 28/04/2026 14:00 UTC
>>>>
>>>> Are there any agenda items for the sync-up?
>>>
>>> I'd like to have a discussion with Stefan and Pierrick about the
>>> possible improvements that can be done on our CI system, and
>>> review our git-forge use in general.
>>>
>>
>> That's a nice topic I would be happy to talk about with all of you.
>>
>>> Pierrick: Stefan is available this Tuesday, are you?
>>>
>>
>> It would be 6am on my side, which is too early sorry.
>>
>> However, I would be very happy to talk about it in private with Stefan and
>> you, and other people interested in this specific topic.
>>
>> I just feel it will be a conversation that may derail very easily with many
>> people participating, and it would be better to restrict it to people very
>> enthusiastic about it first.
>>
>> Once we have a concrete plan, we can share it more widely and deal with
>> critics and see what can really be done.
> 
> Can we please keep the discussions in public. Yes, sometimes the threads
> can derail, but that's just a characteristic of our open collaboration
> process. Switching to private design and then presenting a solution is
> not the way to work in the community.
>

Sorry for the misunderstanding. The goal was not to do anything in
"secret" among a chosen group of people, but to restrict it to people
who are enthusiastic about this change. Anyone (including you :)) who
wants to join in early conversations is welcome. See it as working group
in the wider community.

This way, we can focus on proper benefits/downsides of the approach,
instead of having to manage fear of change. It's just a different
audience to approach this topic.

As well, the format, an oral conversation, is not a good match for a
subject that might derail easily. It would work better with a written
conversation, but we need a first email with content to start this.

That's why we need a first concrete "plan"/"proposal", to get something
to start from. It's not supposed to be a final solution, quite the
opposite actually.

> With regards,
> Daniel
> 

Regards,
Pierrick

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