qmail Digest 25 Oct 1999 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 800

Topics (messages 32066 through 32078):

Re: Qmail won't send mail
        32066 by: Subba Rao
        32073 by: Carrott

Re: [OT] Any thoughts on instant messaging vs. smtp
        32067 by: Stan Horwitz
        32078 by: Lyndon Griffin

Re: qmail
        32068 by: Peter Samuel
        32071 by: carvalho.ecb.epm.br
        32072 by: carvalho.ecb.epm.br
        32075 by: dd

Re: Multiple emails
        32069 by: carvalho.ecb.epm.br

ezmlm problems
        32070 by: Ronald Wiplinger

confign problem:  pls help, urgent.
        32074 by: Nenita Manaois
        32076 by: dd

Re: Net::POP3 perl doesn't work
        32077 by: Jon Rust

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I have added the FQDA to the "locals" file and now I can send local mail.

As far as remote hosts is oncerned, I am still lost. I have followed all the 
instructions in
INSTALL.* and "Life with Qmail" docs. The processes do starup, as indicated in the
docs.

When I do a "telnet localhost 25", I get the following message

=>Trying 127.0.0.1...
=>telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

The "netstat -a " command does not list, port 25.

Does anyone know why this is happening?

Thank you in advance.

Subba Rao
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Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself.

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This is because the smtp daemon has not started. This runs as the qmaild 
user so try a "ps -aux|grep qmaild" to what, if anything, is happening. 
Also check that you are running the command EXACTLY as per the FAQ, you 
have the entry "smtp     25/tcp" in the services files and check the syslog 
files for errors.

You may also want to try appending " > /dev/console" to the command line 
which will echo the command outputs to TTY1. This works only is you are 
starting the smtpd from tcpserver which is what I have been doing. Also 
include the full path of all commands as they may not be found in the path 
when the command is run.

Good luck

At 13:55 24/10/99 , Subba Rao wrote:
>I have added the FQDA to the "locals" file and now I can send local mail.
>
>As far as remote hosts is oncerned, I am still lost. I have followed all 
>the instructions in
>INSTALL.* and "Life with Qmail" docs. The processes do starup, as 
>indicated in the
>docs.
>
>When I do a "telnet localhost 25", I get the following message
>
>=>Trying 127.0.0.1...
>=>telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
>
>The "netstat -a " command does not list, port 25.
>
>Does anyone know why this is happening?
>
>Thank you in advance.
>
>Subba Rao
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>==============================================================
>Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself.
>
>http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
>______________________________________________________________
>
>
>








On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Eric Dahnke wrote:
> 
> > I understand the pros and cons of each, but am interested in knowing if
> > there is anyone on this list who thinks instant messaging has a chance
> > of upseating smtp.
> 
> This is a silly question. They are completely different. SMTP is a
> store-and-forward protocol. IM is not. QED.

I agree. This semester, e-mail use here where I work is increasing at the
most rapid rate I have seen in the 15 years or so that I have worked here.
Both instant messagaging and e-mail based technologies are growing in
popularity here. Both technologies have their strengths and weaknesses,
but by no means are these technologies in a position where they're
competing with one another.





qmail *is* instant messaging ;)

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Eric Dahnke wrote:
> 
> > I understand the pros and cons of each, but am interested in knowing if
> > there is anyone on this list who thinks instant messaging has a chance
> > of upseating smtp.
> 
> This is a silly question. They are completely different. SMTP is a
> store-and-forward protocol. IM is not. QED.
> 
> -- 
> Todd A. Jacobs
> Network Systems Engineer




On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, James Smallacombe wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Peter Samuel wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Magnus Bodin wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 06:18:44PM -0200, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Neil Floris wrote:
> > > >         I think that is only one advantage on usign sendmail: you can
> > > > program it to play the old 'X' or 'O' game... ( somebody can tell me how
> > > > can i say this game name in english? )
> > > >         
> > > >        X |   |
> > > >       ___|___|___
> > > >          | X |
> > > >       ___|___|___
> > > >          |   |
> > > >          | O | O
> > > 
> > > 
> > > It's called tic-tac-toe. But the above story I've heard several times but
> > > I have NOT seen any evidence trace of it but a small passus repeating the
> > > fact that "... programming a tic-tac-toe game in sendmail.cf ...".
> > 
> > <flippant>
> > That's not the question he asked. He wanted to know what the game is
> > called in _English_. It's called "Noughts and Crosses". In _American_
> > it's called "tic-tac-toe" :)
> > </flippant>
> 
> Ok, but what's it called in Australian?   :-P

Given that the English have so many dialects, the Canadians and
Americans have destroyed the language (spelling and pronunciation), and
the New Zealanders have emasculated the short vowels, the Australians
are the last true _English_ speakers left :)

If there are any English speaking nations I haven't insulted with that
last paragraph, let me know and I'll have something inflammatory ready
to roll forthwith :)

> 
> > I used to have a sendmail.cf that turned sendmail into a slow
> > mathematical calculator. I'll see if I can hunt it down (I'll also
> > have to find a sendmail system to test it - not many around here
> > any more :)
> 
> You should see if there's a way to convert it to work with qmail control
> files.  Then we could have a fast mathematical calculator...

My brain hurts :)

Regards
Peter
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"If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"





Quoting Peter Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> <flippant>
> That's not the question he asked. He wanted to know 
what the game is
> called in _English_. It's called "Noughts and 
Crosses". In _American_
> it's called "tic-tac-toe" :)
> </flippant>

  :-) Perfect. Thank you very much, for the right 
answer and for the perfeccionism in search for the 
right answer... :-) I like it. I've received the answer 
in many different languages. :-)

> I used to have a sendmail.cf that turned sendmail 
into a slow
> mathematical calculator. I'll see if I can hunt it 
down (I'll also
> have to find a sendmail system to test it - not many 
around here
> any more :)

  I'll love take a look at it...
  Maybe we can make a port for the qmail... 
 
  Magnum asked me if i know an implementation of this 
game. I've never heard about one. In true, i'm 
convinced that it's Unix folklore... :-)
  If you can figure out how to do it, i can setup a 
sendmail server just for fun... and for play Noughts 
and crosses... or tic-tac-toe, as you like... :-)
 
  It can be an interesting project for a game... :-)
 
  Thank you for the interest... 
  []z




Quoting Peter Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Ok, but what's it called in Australian?   :-P
> Given that the English have so many dialects, the 
Canadians and
> Americans have destroyed the language (spelling and 
pronunciation), and
> the New Zealanders have emasculated the short vowels, 
the Australians
> are the last true _English_ speakers left :)

   Hey! Stop the flame-throwing, please.
   I have a proposal for all you: 

   Let's make the qmail play Crosses and Noughts (or 
tic-tac-toe, or whatever you call this damm game... :-)
 
   And we can create a way to provide other utilities, 
like the slow calculator (that can use some shared time 
scheme to gain access to super computers to make fast 
calculations in remote locations, like a service... :-)

   What you all think about it???
   Anyone help me?

> > > I used to have a sendmail.cf that turned sendmail 
into a slow
> > > mathematical calculator. I'll see if I can hunt 
it down (I'll also
> > > have to find a sendmail system to test it - not 
many around here
> > > any more :)

   This sounds good to me... 
   How about chess?

> > You should see if there's a way to convert it to 
work with qmail control
> > files.  Then we could have a fast mathematical 
calculator...

   I don't understand it... can somebody explain it?
 
   Thank you all.
   []z





>    Hey! Stop the flame-throwing, please.
>    I have a proposal for all you: 
> 
>    Let's make the qmail play Crosses and Noughts (or 
> tic-tac-toe, or whatever you call this damm game... :-)

errm we call it simply "x-o" in turkey hehe :P

dd





Quoting "Scott A. Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I have a script written in php3 that sends email via 
the php calls. We use
> qmail on our system and thus so does the php.
> However, as of late, users of this script have been 
getting multiple
> emails being sent out when using it.
> Does anyone know what's going on here?

  Scott, i have no information here at all, but i'm 
using the same scheme here in Brazil and have no 
troubles. Maybe some PHP code helps... 
  I'm thinking that you're using something weird on 
your script... :-) But i can't imagine what... 
  Send more info to me, and i'll try help you more... 
 
  Best regards.

Luis Campos de Carvalho
System Administrator at www.ecb.epm.br




I have installed (successfully) qmail with Paul Gregg's single user
extension for virtual domains.

Now I try to install ezmlm, but somehow I am lost.
The ezmlm-test works!

When I create a list with:

ezmlm-make -rdugm -5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] \
    /var/qmail/ezmlm/test \
    /var/qmail/ezmlm/.qmail-test \
    ronald-test \
    wiplinger.org

eqmlm-sub /var/qmail/ezmlm/test [EMAIL PROTECTED]
eqmlm-sub /var/qmail/ezmlm/test/digist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
eqmlm-sub /var/qmail/ezmlm/test/mod [EMAIL PROTECTED]


and send then a message to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], .....
it came back with unknown user.

Maybe I need to put a reference in /var/qmail/users/assign, but if which
one?
+wiplinger-org-test:popuser:103:103:/var/qmail/ezmlm/test:::
would come in my mind

However, it did also not work!

====

In the second step I would like to use ezmlm as a special autoreply with
alias names. It came into my mind, when I read the docs, that it let you
send single messages of the archive. E.g, some alias name like
product-2345 will send back the message about this product, which I have
prepared into the archive.

Has anybody any ideas/coments to this?

bye

Ronald
begin:vcard 
n:Wiplinger;Ronald
tel;pager:0943-154953
tel;cell:0935-869459
tel;fax:2600-0132
tel;home:2609-0652 ext. 80
tel;work:2609-0652 ext. 12
x-mozilla-html:FALSE
url:www.trace.net.tw
org:Wang's Trace Tech. Enterprise Co., Ltd.
adr:;;No. 11, Lane 96, Sec. 1, Wen Hua 2nd Road, Linkou Hsian;Taipei Hsien;;24442;Taiwan
version:2.1
email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
title:Gen. Manager
fn:Ronald Wiplinger
end:vcard





hi!

i have just installed qmail on my linux machine.  it has no running dns,
though but instead using an upstream dns server to resolve domain names.
i do not have a registered domain name for my server so my email address
shld be:  <user>@<my ip address>.

internal sending of mails is no problem.  however, when i try to send
messages to remote clients and vice versa, the message could not be
delivered.  on my remote machines, the message says "host unknown" for my
ip address.

here's my control files:

defaultdomain:  (contains the actual ip address of the machine -> x.x.x.x)
locals:  (same as defaultdomain)
me : same as defaultdomain
plusdomain:  (empty)
rcpthosts:  same as defaultdomain

i am running tcpserver.

pls help.

-nenita







> i have just installed qmail on my linux machine.  it has no running dns,
> though but instead using an upstream dns server to resolve domain names.
> i do not have a registered domain name for my server so my email address
> shld be:  <user>@<my ip address>.
> 
> internal sending of mails is no problem.  however, when i try to send
> messages to remote clients and vice versa, the message could not be
> delivered.  on my remote machines, the message says "host unknown" for my
> ip address.

hi

errm i had the same problem and it wasn't solved until i got my domain
registered to the dns server. i tried sending mail to user@IP but it
doesn't work, don't know why. afaik you'll have to wait for your domain
name... :/  btw you _should_ be able to send mail to remote hosts.


good luck and love & peace etc etc,
dd





At 11:52 AM +0300 10/24/99, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
>Jon Rust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Sat, 23 Oct 1999:
>> The Net:POP3 login method expects to get a message count back after a
>> successful login. Qmail's pop3d does not provide a message count, so
>> it's impossible to tell if login succeeded (-> login() always returns
>> as a "fail"). Is there a patch available to qmail's pop3d to return
>> the number of messages after a successful login?
>
>I haven't actually verified this in practice, but it looks like the
>Net::POP3 module will return <undef> if the login (or pass) command
>fails.  If the login is successfull, it will return either 0 or the
>number of messages, if that was given in the password reply.
>
>So you don't need to look for patch to pop3d, instead in the perl
>script you should be checking for a return value of <undef> instead
>of non-zero to indicate login failure.  Not doing this will give you
>a "failed login" even on servers which do give the message count, but
>the mailbox just happened to be empty.


You are correct. My bad. Thanks for the assist.

jon


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