Hey J , 

My name is Brenden and I have yet to post in the group yet but I do have a pair 
of Billie bars and a 12cm Tallux Stem to pair with it. I had the set up on my 
59cm Atlantis and my 57cm Crust lightning bolt. If you would want to personally 
email me about price I’m more then happy to sell both the bars and stem to you! 

Thanks 
Brenden



> On Apr 18, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Brenden Perella <brenperell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey J , 
> 
> My name is Brenden and I have yet to post in the group yet but I do have a 
> pair of Billie bars and a 12cm Tallux Stem to pair with it. I had the set up 
> on my 59cm Atlantis and my 57cm Crust lightning bolt. If you would want to 
> personally email me about price I’m more then happy to sell both the bars and 
> stem to you! 
> 
> Thanks 
> Brenden 
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 2:58 PM, Garth <garth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> JS , without being you, all I can say is go long, a 12 or 13. I have a good 
>> selection of various open face stems so I can try any combo easily. I find a 
>> combo of a threadless adapter and some cheap threadless 0 degree or greater 
>> stems great for fitting and or keeping on the bike to ride. That said, I'm 
>> not a fan of negative rise road stems with a long quill for raising 
>> handlebars, it's self-defeating.  
>> 
>> "Upright" is such a cliche' though and means nothing more than saying it. 
>> Unless you're face planted everyone who rides a bike is upright to some 
>> extent and it's always changing. People have different body types, different 
>> flexibilities and certainly different sensibilities about everything in 
>> general. How you're placed over the saddle and your foot placement has a big 
>> influence on the upper body, so just concentrating on the upper with 
>> considering everything else is misleading at best. Bike riding is a whole 
>> body experience, not to mention the "white elephant" in the room ..... which 
>> is we are not machines...mechanical.. material...... we are to put it blunty 
>> .... Infinity Itself. 
>> 
>> Riding for joy of Riding Itself. ... Because We Are. 
>>> On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 8:49:11 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>> Greetings
>>> I'm looking to try a Billie Bar on my App and unsure on stem length. I 
>>> think I'm leaning towards a slightly more aero position and would like to 
>>> have the grip/brake area not too far back.  I'd like to set them up so that 
>>> position is comfortable and upright but not an issue for steering or knee 
>>> hitting.  The issue is, I'm not all that long and general ride shorter 
>>> stems .
>>> * 9cm for Noodles on my S.H.
>>> * 8cm for flat waive-like bars on my App currently 
>>> 
>>> I don't think the "3rd" position in the rounded forward part of the bar is 
>>> something I would use all that often but definitely the area in front of 
>>> the levers appeals to me as a primary riding position that sort-of mimics 
>>> riding on the hoods of a drop bar.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have suggestions on how long of a stem works best with these 
>>> bars?   My gut is saying 11cm but I'm concerned about purchasing such a 
>>> long stem and it feel way too out there.  It's a 55cm App with a roughly 
>>> 60cm effective top tube length 
>>> 
>>> Also if anyone has a Bille Bar they would like to move on, please let me 
>>> know
>>> Thank you
>>> JS
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