FWIW, I have a pair of 28-spoke wheels that have been very durable for me 
(185-190 pounds, depending on how many pastries I'm eating).  I wouldn't 
recommend this setup, but the wheels came this way (old school Campy high 
flange hubs, Mavic MA3 rims, standard DT spokes) so I used them.  Rode them all 
the way from SF to LA a few years ago.

I totally agree that a good wheelbuilder is a must.  The rear wheel *did* have 
issues with spokes breaking until my favorite wheelbuilder rebuilt it as 2X 
instead of 3X.  Since then, nary a problem.

--Eric

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On Aug 26, 2010, at 9:18 AM, William <[email protected]> wrote:

> There are a lot of good thoughts here.  For essentially every
> conceivable combination of equipment you will find at least one rider
> who will say "I used A,B,C for a million miles with two tons and it's
> good-as-new" and you will find at least one rider who will say "I used
> A,B,C for 100ft with 10lbs on it and it fell apart".  So it's always
> hard to predict.  I will say that a very very experienced wheelbuilder
> is a great place to invest.  I'll also add the +1 for cush in the
> tires.
> 
> On Aug 26, 9:13 am, CycloFiend <[email protected]> wrote:
>> It's interesting that two postings in this thread have described 40 spoke
>> rims failing.  The one thing which is easy to forget is that while you gain
>> lower per spoke tension by increasing count, you are also drilling holes
>> into an aluminum extrusion and putting the structure under tension.  There's
>> a point out there where you are creating a "drillium" rim.  Higher spoke
>> counts are not without secondary effects.
>> 
>> I'm not sure I have a larger point to make.
>> 
>> ...other than to reinforce that the air in the tire is the suspension
>> system, and bigger, supple tires are the saviour of many marginal wheels.
>> 
>> There are absolutely bombproof 48, 36 and 32 spoke wheels, and if you mate
>> those with larger tires, that's a very, very good thing.
>> 
>> - J
>> 
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