I'm sorry, but can we please put an end to this thread? This topic is not Riv-related--if I want to read about pseudoscientific dietary theories I have many choices elsewhere.
—Eric Norris On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Rene Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote: > Anne, > > The short answer is that carbs create and trigger addiction responses, just > like nicotine, alcohol and other drugs. When you are hooked, you crave them > for all the reasons explained in the book (High insuline, lack of calories > for normal function because most are stored in the fat tissue, etc.) > > Carbs and Fats do not create this addiciton response. Like fighting any other > addiction, you have to cut them off (we're talking primarily about sugars and > flours), go through the withdrawal phase like any other addicit who wants out > and keep the substance forever away from you. > > There is no such thing as just one drink for alcoholics and there isn't such > a thing as just one bite of something sugary or with flour for a carbohydrate > addict either. Managing food is just harder than managing cigarrettes or > alcohol because you do have to continue eating and there are many hidden > addictive substances in many foods so staying alert is all that much harder. > Before you know it, you've relapsed into the addiciton like it's happened to > me and countless others. > > For many in these programs, other emotional tools like 12 steps, etc. are > helpful as well. To me, something I started in June called EFT (Emotional > Freedom Technique) did the trick on the emotional side, but it's important to > understand (as Taube clearly points out) that this is a physiological > addictive response and has nothing to do with will power, self esteem or > anything like that. > > Once you've gone through the withdrawal phase (Taube offers some good > solutions to minimize discomfortable effects and explains why they occur), > your cravings for carbohydrates really dissapear (YMMV). The problem is that > after losing a noticeable amount of weight and feeling incredibly great, > social pressure and established paradigms start acting on you and you feel > like you've been so good you should get a reward... and fall into the > slippery slope that will lead you back to the addiciton state. In my > experience, and believe me I'm fully convinced now as I've lived this cycle > several times, there is no freedom from the addiction and any reward should > never take the form of sugar/flour/bad carbohydrate, but more preferred forms > are bicycle, camera or any other such variations, apart from the feeling of > well-being that comes from having lost weight, looking now better and feeling > way much better. > > I'm now reading the book that Taube recommends for more details on the eating > plan if you want them. His book quotes a very simple and correct eating plan > but he recommends this book for people who feel they need more details and > food plans. He references the works of one of the authors several times. The > book is "The New Atkins for a New You", published last year and authored by > Dr. Eric Westman. My opinion is that Taube's book is a lot more powerful in > its message, while Westman's book is tailored like a diet book and has a much > "softer" approach. Westman's book wouldn't have had the same impact Taube's > book did on my realization that the answers were there all along, but somehow > confused and mixed with the current paradigms so it was all too confusing. > The good thing about Westman's book is that he provides qute a bit more > detail on how to switch to this eating paradigm and when touching the topic > of exercise quotes a study that was done with proffesional cyclists that > proved that after a couple of weeks on the plan, after their metabolisms > adapted to the new change and were burning fat instead of carbs, they showed > no reduction in their endurance and maximal efforts but didn't consume their > normal carbohydrate reserves (glycogen in the muscles and liver). > > I know other authors talk about how to use carbs when excercising, but I'd be > willing to bet that if one takes the time to fully change eating paradigms > and sticks to the 20 grams/day goal, one should be able to fuel during long > rides using the same type of food rather than ingesting high carbs for the > sugar rush/release. > > Both authors acknowledge that there is anecdotal evidence that inserting high > carb meals into the regular low carb ones helps with the weight loss, sort of > shaking the body a bit, but state there have been no formal studies conducted > to prove/disprove this so they leave it up to you. > > When I've lost the 80 lbs I still need to lose, and start joining you on > those brevets like the one you so vividly reported a few days ago, I'll > hopefully have my own anectdotal evidence regarding how to best fuel for > them. In the meantime, I plan to stick to this paradigm as I continue to get > ready for my bike tour introductory course in May and will let you know how > these longer (for me) rides come along with the new eating plan. > > Apologies for the lengthy message... :-) > > René > > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why does "Carbohydrates are delicious but you should avoid them" > differ in diet success from "Fats are delicious but you should avoid > them"? How is it easier to avoid delicious carbohydrates than > delicious fats? > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
