Serious question: What's the point of a mixte if you don't wear skirts? To put it another way: why are they so popular?
Patrick Moore, who has owned at least two with the extra stays and dual down tubes. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Pam Ellen Hudson <pammieel...@gmail.com>wrote: > I will say, as the owner of a double tube mixte custom from Royal H (the > lovelybike frame that was stolen but I got back!). The bike is unusually > flexible at high speeds going downhill. There is quite a bit of flex in > the frame generally. I will test it out with lowered panniers in the next > month and let me know of the results. My frame is simply pristine -- but I > had always been a roadie -- so for me the difference was significant. I > think that makes the mixte frame not the best choice for rando events or > touring -- it does make a good commuter and is good for long rides though. > > My thoughts. > > On Jan 9, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Matthew J <matthewj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the "double lateral tube" > style of step through bike than the "single diagatube" style. :) > > > SOMA Buena Vista is a nice "double lateral tube" design. > http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg > > The double tubes look nice and from the right builder can be a decent > bike. A lot of those double tubes are very flexible though and not in the > planing sort of way. Riv (and others) single tube down tends to make a > stronger bike. > > On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:04:20 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote: >> >> I didn't mean to start a pedantic discussion around the term "mixte:" >> (but thanks for the background info, Jan and co.) Though I used it with >> what seems to be a widely held distinction (at least in US). >> >> I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the "double lateral tube" style >> of step through bike than the "single diagatube" style. :) >> >> SOMA Buena Vista is a nice "double lateral tube" design. >> http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jan Heine <hei...@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> Interestingly, "mixte" seems to have a clear definition more in the U.S. >>> than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term "mixte" >>> used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of "vélo dame" or similar terms. >>> >>> Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was invented >>> by A. Sixt in the 1930s, as a more triangulated design that was intended to >>> make the frame stiffer than the traditional women's frames with a deeply >>> dropped or even curved diagonal tube. He also used twin diagonal tubes to >>> stiffen tandem frames. >>> >>> Around 1938, the great constructeur Reyhand developed a more >>> sophisticated frame design, with a dropped single top tube and two extra >>> seatstays. In profile, it looks similar to the twin-diagonal-tubed frame. >>> To stiffen the connection at the center of the frame, the extra stays >>> extend beyond the seat tube and attach to the diagonal tube as well. André >>> Reiss, the maker of Reynand, patented this design, as well as a tandem >>> frame with two sets of diagonal reinforcement stays (one set from the head >>> tube to the rear BB, the other from the front seat lug to the rear >>> dropouts). After Reiss died in World War II, the designs were widely copied. >>> >>> You can see examples of these designs in the Bicycle Quarterly "Image >>> Archive" at >>> >>> http://www.bikequarterly.com/color_photo_supplement.html >>> >>> The twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was much easier to make, and thus remained >>> popular among mass producers. I don't think Sheldon Brown was even aware of >>> the second "Reyhand" type when he coined his definition of mixte, but he >>> was thinking of women's frames with either a dropped top tube with no extra >>> rear stays (which puts bending loads on the seat tube and thus offends >>> engineers) or the twin-diagonal-tubed "mixte." More recently, Rivendell >>> inspired its mixtes on the "Reyhand" type, but without extending the extra >>> stays beyond the seat tube. >>> >>> Jan Heine >>> Editor >>> Bicycle Quarterly >>> www.bikequarterly.com >>> >>> Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Burque (NM) Resumes that get interviews: http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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