On 2021-05-27 6:51 p.m., Linda Dunbar wrote:
Michael,
Since you have "mostly ignored 5G", here are some real money making business
enabled by 5G.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=herCDIhWUnM
_New 5G technology 'transforms virtual sport and entertainment viewing'
Was pretty much content-free. I learnt that I might be able to order
hotdogs while at the game
https://youtu.be/Gtu11EuCSXw
5G for Sport - a bunch of not yet here user interface technologies from
BT... Google Glasses redux... "Every seat will be the best seat in the
house"... just pure fantasy for the UI side of things in my opinion.
But, I'll accept this technological McGuffin for the moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNQ4c4xeKEg
Verizon 5G Edge and AWS Wavelength: Changing the experience of
basketball | Verizon
All about shot-tracker. They compared 5G to "4G", but not, to for
instance, wifi6.
The business model is no longer the traditional monthly subscribers, but more
of the Services oriented business model, enabled by dedicated closed-looped or
Non-Public Networks (called by 3GPP).
Those Closed-Looped networks or Non-Public Networks, where APN is more likely
to be valuable, have different security concern than the public Internet. It is
not Netflix sending traffic across the public Internet and requiring
subscribers to pay a premium, which has net neutrality and privacy issues.
In the Closed Looped Service Network, there is always a Service controller
dictating various policies. There are many things that the Network needs to
interact with the Service Controller, which is out of the scope of IETF APN.
From IETF APN perspective, it needs to achieve optimized forwarding based on
the Application characteristics managed by the Application/Service Controller.
Videos 1 and 2 were all about subscribers getting access to content,
exactly as with netflix, but now all multi-feed, live and in 3D plus
replays. I saw nothing about a services oriented business model.
I see that the applications need to very clearly articulate which
streams they care about, and this needs to go into the network.
(I don't really care if "Netflix" is across the Internet or via private
peering. It crosses an AS, and in the virtual interim this fact was
re-iterated)
The shot-tracker situation sounds like some kind of local 5G deployment
at the basketball team training facility replacing, I guess, wifi. I'm
unclear why there is any data going offsite ("edge computing" is
mentioned a lot).... but maybe there is some AWS connection. But, given
that the whole facility is wired, I don't see why fiber can't provide.
So all my points remain: if end-user devices are involved (up to the
application in order to know which QUIC streams are which), then we need
a trust model between the devices and the Service Controller. The lack
of this trust model is why all the previous efforts have failed.
Rejigging the L2 encoding won't change this.
Getting that trust model in place would be truly revolutionary.
Not only could I pay for better bandwidth when I need it, but I could
also "unpay" for nuissance traffic and have it blocked upstream.
DOTS has gotten a lot way towards this, but it depends somewhat upon the
home routers being provisioned by the ISP, and does not include end
devices as yet.
_______________________________________________
rtgwg mailing list
[email protected]
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg
