Good points Lin! Hopefully they will be discussed when you present your draft.
Thanks Hesham On Wed, Jul 7, 2021, 10:18 AM Lin Han <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Hesham > > > > Thanks for the info. > > The reference from prof. Mark has been given in the draft as > [UCL-Mark-Handley] (sec. 7.2.2), the paper has demonstrated that satellite > relay can achieve shorter latency than ground fiber network through > simulation. > > But for commercial use and widely deployment, IETF still needs > technologies/protocols to solve issues in “multiple satellite relay”, such > as path/satellite selection, IP continuity, etc. Enhanced or new > anchor-less mobility technologies might be needed to handle so > quick/frequent hands over and topology changes. > > > > Regards > > > > Lin > > > > *From:* Hesham ElBakoury <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 6, 2021 7:51 PM > *To:* Lin Han <[email protected]> > *Cc:* UTTARO, JAMES <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected]; [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for > draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt > > > > Mark Handley published the paper "*Using ground relays for low-latency > wide-area routing in megaconstellations"* to show that even if we do not > have ISL we can use ground terminals to route traffic with better latency > than fiber links. > > > > Thanks > > Hesham > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, 10:08 AM Lin Han <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, Jim > > I don't have clear answer. > What I can guess now is that most of current technologies (with > enhancement) can be used, but some new technologies might be needed to > solve the satellite specific issues, such as fast mobility, frequent > topology changes, constraints in satellite power, security in open space, > etc. > It is up to the community to decide what new technologies and what new > protocols will be developed. > > Regards > > Lin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: UTTARO, JAMES <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 7:20 AM > To: Lin Han <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: RE: New Version Notification for > draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt > > Lin, > > Are you suggesting that the current set of protocols can be used > with or without enhancements or is the uniqueness of the satellite network > require new protocol(s) to address the architecture you have laid out.. > > Thanks, > Jim Uttaro > > -----Original Message----- > From: Idr <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lin Han > Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2021 8:41 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: [Idr] FW: New Version Notification for > draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt > > Hi, > > This draft analyzed the problems and requirements for the satellite > network when it is integrated with Internet by current routing > technologies. > It may be relevant and interesting to internet, BGP, IGP. The further > solution proposals may also come from different groups including research > initiative SARAH. > > Look forwarding to discussion and comments. > > Thanks > > Lin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2021 5:07 PM > To: Lin Han <[email protected]>; Richard Li <[email protected]> > Subject: New Version Notification for > draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt > > > A new version of I-D, draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Lin Han and posted to the IETF > repository. > > Name: draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net > Revision: 00 > Title: Problems and Requirements of Satellite Constellation for > Internet > Document date: 2021-07-03 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 32 > URL: > 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