Well, unfortunately untested code is part of reality. Although I have tried to be good and test all I could I have not followed a methodology or tool to get things done right the first time and be more efficient at it and I am sure there are parts of my code that I missed, reason why I am so interested in BDD.
Ruby and Rails should not be a major problem. Although I am no expert I can push my way through getting scratched by thorns and everything else in the process. ;) Although at times painful, I have learned a lot so far. Thank you all very much for your ideas and the will to share your knowledge. Pepe On Feb 1, 8:04 am, Marnen Laibow-Koser <li...@ruby-forum.com> wrote: > Ray K. wrote: > > There are the bddcasts:www.bddcasts.com > > They do cost money, but they're worth it, so is the rspec book. > > > A word of advice: > > Learning RoR at the same time with Cucumber and RSpec will require you > > to fight a very steep learning curve. > > Very often you will neither know how to test something nor how to > > implement it. You do get a lot of insight into Rails and you'll learn > > what every LOC does. But it's also over with easy copy&pasting code, > > taking chunks from tutorials and all that. This requires for you to > > really know what you're doing or if you don't - you will have to learn. > > > The quick and dirty solution with BDD doesn't exist. It can be worth it, > > but it takes long. > > That's absolutely false. I learned Rails and RSpec at the same time > (Cucumber didn't exist yet). > It was no problem. > > > > > I would suggest to get your Rails knowledge on a solid foundation first. > > "Solid" means stuff you really know and can do - not a collage of > > railscasts. > > After that BDD won't be that hard. > > No, no, no! Then you'll be writing untested code, which is worse. > Definitely don't go for the collage of Railscasts, but don't hold off on > learning proper testing either. It's an essential part of programming > in the 21st century. > > > > > Hope that helps > > Ray > > Best, > -- > Marnen Laibow-Koserhttp://www.marnen.org > mar...@marnen.org > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.