Ops, I meant underestimate* Cheers,
Marcelo. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celose...@gmail.com> wrote: > We all know how software engineering is, often we overestimate the > amount of effort needed to complete a still abstract task. That's why > agility prays fast, simple iterations, say no, cut the bloat. In the > case of Rails, it's really more passion than deadlines involved, not > to mention it is a collaborative remote effort from people around the > world, the process will be kind of chaotic, in the good sense. > > Now, I'm not advocating the approach the core-team uses, sometimes > they go over the edge with their arrogancy, although this is changing > as more people get into the 'elite' sphere (i.e getting more diverse), > but I do think that this is a direct consequence of all the stupidity > that you often see around a highly-hyped topic such as Rails and other > IT topics. It is like selecting "friends". There are just too many > people that want fast / magical results or nerds that love to troll. > > Marcelo. > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:48 PM, yannimac <john.mcali...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Just curious, does anyone know if 3.0RC milestone in lighthouse a >> correct list of the remaining bugs? I was watching it a few weeks ago >> and they removed the milestone, but they added it back a few days >> ago.. only 2 tickets in the milestone right now, so it looks like its >> close to finished. Maybe that will give you guys a warm fuzzy feeling >> about 3.0... I personally don't care what the version tag says. >> >> I started converting my most complex app to Rails 3 about a month ago >> with the expectation that the code was almost ready based on the blog >> from dhh. I was planning on pulling the trigger for the production >> switchover when RC was available. But now that I have been running on >> beta4, I don't see the point in waiting. My app has been tested >> extensively and is running great on rails 3, and it really doesn't >> matter to me what the version label is if it works. There are going >> to be outstanding tickets regardless of what version they are on.. I >> mean hell, 2.3.9 has 52 open tickets right now in LH. In my >> experience (albeit, limited with one app on Rails 3), the code is >> solid and you can figure out workarounds for any minor bug that you >> might find. When RC or final 3.0 comes out I don't really expect to >> have to change much (if anything). >> >> I understand the frustration since dhh said it would be ready in >> "days" ;-) And I felt some of that frustration until I finished the >> conversion and testing a few days ago. Start using Rails 3 now! You >> will not regret it... there are plenty of people using it with no >> problems including me. FYI.. I saw gemcutter just completed their >> conversion to Rails 3. >> >> On Jul 23, 4:05 pm, Greg Donald <gdon...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser >>> >>> <li...@ruby-forum.com> wrote: >>> > Exactly. That's what I meant about silence being more of an issue than >>> > lateness. >>> >>> They are in no way being silent and NOTHING is late. Take your whiny >>> ass over to the dashboard and you can see EXACTLY what is going on: >>> >>> https://rails.lighthouseapp.com/dashboard >>> >>> Bunch of fucking cry-babies. geez. >>> >>> -- >>> Greg Donald >>> destiney.com | gregdonald.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-t...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
