Something to discuss and work on at Sage Days 6, perhaps, since David
and Bill and William (and I) will be there?

John

On 9/15/07, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2007, at 3:30 AM, William Stein wrote:
>
> >
> > On 9/14/07, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> In actual fact, it should be possible for us to write efficient
> >> conversion routines in C for going from a FLINT polynomial object to
> >> an NTL polynomial object  and vice versa (at the very least), so a
> >> partial transition to NTL is both possible and definitely
> >> advisable if
> >> SAGE is to safely transition to FLINT.
> >
> > In my opinion you make doing the above your absolutely top priority
> > before everything else.  I'm not sure, but I suspect it won't be
> > terribly difficult for you -- in fact, it will probably be easy --
> > but it
> > would probably be very difficult for me.   If you create such
> > conversion functions, then as you mention below it will be possible
> > to base ZZ[x] implementation in SAGE on FLINT very soon, and
> > just resort to NTL for all the other operations, then as you implement
> > new functionality we just replace 2 or 3 lines of Cython with your
> > new faster function, and the rest of SAGE remains unchanged.
>
> I agree with William S, this is the most important thing to do.
>
> But maybe consider doing it the other way around: continue to use NTL
> as the base implementation in SAGE for a while, and make SAGE convert
> objects to FLINT objects temporarily for arithmetic, if the objects
> are large enough to make it worthwhile.
>
> My main concern is that using fmpz_poly will kill the machine for
> certain kinds of sparse polynomials. For example if you create the
> polynomial x^1000000 + 2^1000000, then NTL is perfectly fine with
> that, but fmpz_poly will try to allocate a million coefficients with
> a million bits each. Boom.
>
> david
>
>
> >
>


-- 
John Cremona

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