thank you for adding fuel! :) I honestly think that SAGE's user target should be slightly different from that one. I mean, picking data from hardware drivers is just a matter of companies agreement and capability to crunches large quantities of data.
In this software, on the contrary, I see a powerful symbolic calculus capability, which is not that easy to find! I see a big number of design engineers out there, whose interest is system modeling, system design, system analysis, and I don't see any capability to accomplish this without any powerful symbolic or analytical system (unless you just prefer to do thousands of simulations...). Moreover, it's very important to deal with interfacing the analysis results to data arrays of reasonable size. In this way, the engineer is enabled to verify and match the analysis versus some simulation or experimental results, without necessarily needing to physically connect the measurement hardware to the pc. Most of the time, a couple of waveforms is more than enough! I have been able to take some advantage of MAXIMA in the past, but the reality is that SAGE has some added value in this field: 1) nice and powerful data and analysis representation (I LOVE the notebook) 2) easy sharing within a network (I LOVE the notebook) 3) easy interfacing with additional external packages 4) easy interfacing to numerical packages (like numpy) Do you see why I do like SAGE? And I do see a LOT of potential for the engineering world!! But I think we need some effort to further develop that... hopefully I'll push for that :) Regards Maurizio Let me throw this stone, it's just something that pops into my mind now: do you know what simulink is? That is a unique feature of MatLab (actually it's a toolbox), which has been pathetically replicated by somebody, but with no results in my opinion. To the best of my knowledge, I actually see SAGE as a viable platform to possibly work on something like that, even though we are MILES away to have the chance to do that. Before, we should use this brick to build all the necessary engineering walls, because we really need a comfortable building first, to think about such an additional package... My point is that we have a chance here, for something useful not only to mathematician, but also to a whole world of people, long awaiting for something to free them from the boring and expensive chain of Matlab and Mathcad and Mathematica... My 2 cents On 20 Mar, 02:02, kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So, up to now, my wishlist is: > > - better Laplace, Fourier, Zeta, any other transform management > > (especially in symbolic) > > - unit of measurement integration > > - extensible comparison between different implementations of all those > > features in the different packages (better to do the limit/integral/ > > anything else with maxima, or with sympy, or with sympycore, or with > > pynac???) > > - NEW: labels in the notebook :) colors would be VERY nice as well! > > Just to add fuel to the fire, I was told point-blank by one of my > colleagues that unless Sage (or Octave or any other OSS) haddrivers > to connect to measurementhardwarein his labs, he didn't see the > point of trying to use Sage, because vendors supply/selldrivers > hooking Matlab to the type of equipment he uses, and he wasn't about > to write a driver. > > I don't really know whether this is true or not (that is, that it's > too annoying to get data into Sage directly from things) and I don't > even know exactly what sort of measurement device he was talking > about, but this seems very plausible, as well as something the current > developer network is not going to be able to solve any time soon. > Food for thought, at least, esp. since a large piece of the current > college calculus market is pre-engineers (see David Bressoud's recent > articles in the Notices and FOCUS, e.g.) and those are the future > users of Sage or any other similar program. > > - kcrisman --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
