William Stein wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Golam Mortuza
> Hossain<gmhoss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Burcin Erocal<bur...@erocal.org> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Inability to substitute the argument of D[]  has ensured that
>>>>> I am forced out from using new sage symbolics for my own work.
>>> As I said above, you could have added a short term workaround for this,
>>> once you start using cython to call pynac internals.
>> As someone said, talk is cheap.  FYI, I spent two full days trying to
>> find a work-around that really works. May be I did stupid way but I would
>> like to invite you to substitute f(x^2)=1 in the following simple expression
>> by using any sage algorithm
>>
>> ---------
>> h = f(x^2).diff(x)*(x+1/x)
>>
>> sage: h.subs(f(x^2)==1)
>> 2*(x + 1/x)*x*D[0](f)(x^2)
>>
>> sage: h.subs(f(x^2).diff(x)==0)
>> 2*(x + 1/x)*x*D[0](f)(x^2)
>> ---------
>>
>>> I believe the effort could be better spent fixing the bugs you listed
>>> above.
>> Thanks for letting know your "belief". If Sage development is dictated
>> by someone's belief rather than user's need, then I really shouldn't
>> argue anymore.
> 
> No worries.  This will get sorted out.  Burcin is sharing his opinion,
> but it isn't the law or anything, and Sage development is not done by
> "dictators".
> 
> I would like to hear more from other users if anybody else has an opinion.
> 

I think the D notation will not be very helpful in education. My
students (in the past) experienced severe problems using this in Maple.

Jaap


>    -- William
> 
> > 
> 


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