On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:20 AM, David Kirkby <david.kir...@onetel.net> wrote:
> On 24 July 2010 08:04, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The design of this "publish/share" aspect of the Sage notebook is
>> nearly an exact clone of Google docs "publish/share", at least circa
>> 2007.   The one difference is that google docs doesn't have a way to
>> browse the list of published documents -- the url's it provides for
>> them are stable urls for the users to post elsewhere.
>
> Stable URLs seem sensible to me.
>
> In the context of Google, this publish/share is probably OK, as I
> doubt poorly published documents would been seen by anyone as a
> reflection on Google - no more than poor web sites found with Google
> are seen as a poor reflection on Google.
>
> But with Sage it is quite different.
>
>> Thus we could also just make the list of published worksheet not
>> browsable at all by default, with the one simple change of removing
>> the "Browse published worksheets" link from the front page.
>> Obviously, before doing that, we would need to find some good
>> replacements for the things people do sometimes use that page for,
>> which is:
>>       (1) go into a room full of students, and
>>       (2) point them at http://server/pub
>>       (3) have them click on the worksheets for today.
>>
>> A customized pub per users might work to replace this, e.g.,
>>
>>   http://server/pub/stein
>>
>> would list the worksheets I've selected somehow...
>>
>> Another solution would be to be able to easily publish bundles of
>> several worksheets together.  Then you just tell the students to look
>> at
>>
>>   http://sever/pub/1234
>>
>> for all the workhseets for today.
>>
>> --
>> William Stein
>
> Perhaps have 3 sections.
> 1) Create a new category "Demonstrations" which has high quality
> demonstrations.Include those with Sage, and make them impossible to
> edit directly within Sage. Nice would be URL's like
>
>  http://server/demonstations/number_theory
>  http://server/demonstations/linear_algebra
>  http://server/demonstations/plotting
>
> in a similar way to what you suggested above with
>
> http://server/pub/stein

Demonstrations would be a good idea. Also, we could do a "worksheet of
the month" or something like that the same way wikipedia does a
photo/article/etc. of the month that's deemed to be of high quality.

> 2) Rename Published -> "Globally Shared"
> 3) Rename Shared -> "Privately Shared"

I like "Published" and "Shared" better.

> I don't see anything particularly wrong with "Globally shared"  being
> publicly viewable without logging in, but as long as the front page
> makes it clear these might not be good examples.
>
> So have the front page look like
>
> * Sign up for a new Sage Notebook account
>
> * Browse Sage demonstrations
> (no login required)
>
> * Browse Globally Shared worksheets
> (Warnings, these may be bad examples)
>
> If someone comes along to a Sage server and sees a bunch of tracebacks
> and other error messages, it does not exactly inspire interest.

And they should ideally be tested too. I think *any* kind of rating
system would also help the random, poor quality stuff sink to the
bottom.

- Robert

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