On Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:26:18 UTC+8, William wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Dr David Kirkby <drki...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Jan 10, 4:04 am, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
> >>
> >> <david....@onetel.net> wrote:
> >> > I'm not sure if this idea will go down well, but I'll mute it anyway.
> >>
> >> > I know William has switched off machines (t2.math for example), as he 
> does
> >> > not have the power/cooling for them. That seems a real shame for that
> >> > machine to sit and collect dust, when it could be used.
> >>
> >> I have the power now.   The only machine that is off is t2.math.  No
> >> other machine is off.  That was a temporary measure in light of a
> >> *major* electrical issue that arose in the UW math server room, which
> >> was beyond my control.    If anybody will volunteer to maintain
> >> t2.math at a software level, I'm happy to turn it on and give that
> >> person root.
> >
> > I'll do my best in the limited time I have available if you switch it
> > back on.
> >
> >> > So would William consider paying the electric costs for those that 
> make
> >> > servers available, and are not covered by their institution? Would it 
> be a
> >> > waste of money, or good use of money?
> >
> >> How much exactly would the electrical costs be?
> >
> > I have two decent servers decent (both IBM) but want to move CPU from
> > the 1U unit to the 2U unit, as the 1U unit has faster processors. But
> > I've had to order the necessary heatsink and VRM to make the change. I
> > will have a machine with a pair of quad core 3.16 GHz Xeons (8 cores
> > in total) and a significant amount of RAM - perhaps as much as 48 GB.
> >
> > Once I get set up, I'll measure the power consumption. Obviously it's
> > impossible to give an exact figure for electric costs.
> >
> > But I was more thinking of the general principle that if you want more
> > buildbots, then at the end of the day someone has to pay for them.
> > Electricity cost is a significant cost of the ownership of servers.
>
> I think the electrical bill for the house I own is about $20/month
> total.    Thus I view electricity as being fairly cheap, at least,
> compared to water and gas.    I don't know what your rates are where
> you live, etc., but I might be surprised if running a few computers
> costs substantially more than my entire house.
>
in UK electricity is more expensive than in WA, it's about as expensive as 
in California, or perhaps a bit more (but then a part of a cost is a fixed 
charge for the pleasure of being connected to the grid)...


 

>  -- William
>
> -- 
> William Stein
> Professor of Mathematics
> University of Washington
> http://wstein.org
>
>

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