Re: (313) dbx - giving it to ya raw

2000-04-28 Thread Matthew L. Thompson
I can verify that Cyborg K can bang pretty good with that setup too!!!  A
big thumbs up for his keyboarding skills, that's to say the least! :)

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Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: (313) dbx - giving it to ya raw


> When you don't have much money, you make do with what you have.  Techno is
> empowering because it allows individuals who have less money still be able
> to afford the means of production, so they can realize their creative
> spirit.  My setup is pretty ghetto, but it's funny how much I end up
getting
> out of it in the end.  The Alesis HR16 is one of my weapons of choice for
my
> live PA though.  And although I'm biased, I think that being able to bang
a
> ghetto set up is a real art that deserves respect.  




Re: (313) dbx - giving it to ya raw

2000-04-28 Thread Cyborg K
When you don't have much money, you make do with what you have.  Techno is 
empowering because it allows individuals who have less money still be able 
to afford the means of production, so they can realize their creative 
spirit.  My setup is pretty ghetto, but it's funny how much I end up getting 
out of it in the end.  The Alesis HR16 is one of my weapons of choice for my 
live PA though.  And although I'm biased, I think that being able to bang a 
ghetto set up is a real art that deserves respect.  


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From: Danny Wolfers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) dbx - giving it to ya raw
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:51:33 +0200

>
> > Of course you get the BOSS drummachines FOR THEIR CRAP SOUNDS! You can
> get

WORD!

> > 808/909 sounds from everywhere, but it's the "unique" sounds in those
> > machines that make them interesting. It's great to see producers
> makin'
> > tracks, whole records even, just with a simple drummachine. I know
> there are
> > lot of people who say "you must search for the most extreme and unique
> > sounds as possible, synth your own sounds etc.", but I think using
> what's> available at the time is most important. You can make any old 
shit

>
> sound> cool if you just analyze what's good about it and what's not, then
> you
> use> it for it's GOOD features, be it sounds, sequncer, filters etc.
> > > Perhaps it's showing us something when most drumpatterns in modern
> techno
> > -and housemusic are basic, average shit. 4/4 kick, a snare, handclaps
> and
> > hi-hats, that's all about there is. There's lots of cheap and useful
> gear,> why not use them and make things a little funkier?

Funny, I was just thinking about this drummachine-thing and realised that
909s and 808s
don't do it for me as much as indeed cheap drummachines such as a Tr505 or
Alesis HR16
nowadays which are lot more exotic to hear.
I just bought a Roland R5 (a sort of  R8 for people withouth money back
then) for almost nothing and I am happier with it then I possibly could be
with a dozen 909's or MC303 grooveboxes.
Its so dirty! the groove is completely deranged and sounds like an old italo
disco drummer on some wrong dope.
(Know I've heard a lot of people complaining about Rolands lack of tight
MIDI triggering on some of
their older instruments, but this simply adds realism!)


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Re: (313) DEMF tip

2000-04-28 Thread Hugh G. Blaze
Where can I get info about the press conference. I am a reporter for a local 
media source, and would like to register. I didn't see anything on the 
website.






How redundant can I get?  I meant "and will be
attending the press conference"

Too many webpages, not enough sunshine I guess...

At 08:58 PM 4/27/00 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Well... those that would be updating the
>website also happen to be on the 313 list
>and will be attending the website, so I'm
>sure the website will be updated as fast
>as someone can post a report here anyway.  ;P
>
>nyah.
>
>Dale
>
>
>At 05:44 PM 4/27/00 PDT, you wrote:
>>The press conference for the festival is May 1st. Though it set to be up 
on
>>the web a couple hours after, would anyone here in the detroit area who 
is

>>attending want to volunteer as (313) liason? Perhaps take notes at the
press
>>junkit to relay to (313)?
>>
>>diana
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Re: (313) Help!

2000-04-28 Thread ryan burns

the new abuser is user.  im not a fan of all of the user stuff.
but this is one of the best (ab)users out.   i also got the new dan bell rmx 
on LADOMAT... basicly it sounds like a big web pussy played over  techno.  
if you like bell you would like this track



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Quick question, that new Abuser record that came out this week, is that 
done
by User??  Cuz if it's not it's a blatant rip-off, not only musically but 
in
artistic terms as well (the label on there is the same one that User 
uses!).

Thanks in advance for the info!  Pieces...

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show602:Andrew Duke's In The Mix now online on Cognition http://techno.ca/cognition

2000-04-28 Thread Andrew Duke
now online on Cognition:
http://techno.ca/cognition

Andrew Duke's In The Mix show 602

here's the tracklisting

show 602 part one:
Technasia's Charles Siegling (FR/HK Technasia/Sino)
exclusive guest DJ mix; there's 29 tracks in this mix;
full tracklisting available on Cognition for this mix

show 602 part two:
   1. Plasm Nesonic--Internal Facade from Automated Choice
Response EP (NL Delsin test)
   2. Universal Principles--Latin Stroll from Inspiration &
Light (UK Soma)
   3. Peter Kruder--Root Down (DM Compost test)
   4. Isolee--Music... from Rest (DM Playhouse)
   5. Audio Totem Pole--Damascus from ATP2 12" (US Audio Totem
Pole)
   6. Hollis P. Monroe--You Belong With Me from Every Night EP
(US Fiji test)
   7. Da Kine--Downstream from Drift002 EP (US Driftwood test)
   8. D. Diggler (Andreas Mugge)--B1 from Feel My Heat (DM
Raum...Musik test)
   9. G. Pal--The Passion For The Phuture from The Passion EP
(US Plastic City USA test)
   10. John Tejada--String Theory from Significant Numbers EP
(US Seventh City test)
   11. Technasia--Force from Force EP (FR/HK Technasia)
   12. Brinton McKay (John Selway)--Real Cool (Abe Duque remix)
from RAP002 12" (US Rapture
   test)
   13. Le Car--Audiofile 10 (Ectomorph version) from Le Car
Remixed EP (US Ersatz Audio test)
   14. Redshift--Intro from Fear/Decay EP (UK Surface Effect
CDR)
   15. Redshift--Fear from Fear/Decay EP (UK Surface Effect CDR)

   16. Shawn Rudiman--Blue Empire from Blue Empire EP (US
Hypervinyl test)
   17. Solenoid--Elsemoon from Alt. Frequencies (4th
Installment) compilation (UK Worm Interface)

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Question

2000-04-28 Thread Myke Mitchell

Hey all!  Just a quick question, anyone hear of the following record:

james lLennet vs plastikman - jazz fanatics (minus)

I haven't seen/heard this before, any comments, reviews??  Thanks.

MM

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Re: (techno) Verdict

2000-04-28 Thread ryan daum
"A spectre is haunting [the record industry]... it is the spectre of..."

On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Myke Mitchell wrote:

> Hey all, just curious to know if anyone has any comments on the ruling that 
> came out today that said MP3.COM has infringed copyright laws of the 
> recording industry.  See it here:
> 
> http://webcrawler-news.excite.com/news/ap/000428/12/mp3-lawsuit
> 
> Crazy shit!  Pieces
> 
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Re: (313) dbx - giving it to ya raw

2000-04-28 Thread Danny Wolfers
>
> > Of course you get the BOSS drummachines FOR THEIR CRAP SOUNDS! You can
> get

WORD!

> > 808/909 sounds from everywhere, but it's the "unique" sounds in those
> > machines that make them interesting. It's great to see producers
> makin'
> > tracks, whole records even, just with a simple drummachine. I know
> there are
> > lot of people who say "you must search for the most extreme and unique
> > sounds as possible, synth your own sounds etc.", but I think using
> what's> available at the time is most important. You can make any old shit
>
> sound> cool if you just analyze what's good about it and what's not, then
> you
> use> it for it's GOOD features, be it sounds, sequncer, filters etc.
> > > Perhaps it's showing us something when most drumpatterns in modern
> techno
> > -and housemusic are basic, average shit. 4/4 kick, a snare, handclaps
> and
> > hi-hats, that's all about there is. There's lots of cheap and useful
> gear,> why not use them and make things a little funkier?

Funny, I was just thinking about this drummachine-thing and realised that
909s and 808s
don't do it for me as much as indeed cheap drummachines such as a Tr505 or
Alesis HR16
nowadays which are lot more exotic to hear.
I just bought a Roland R5 (a sort of  R8 for people withouth money back
then) for almost nothing and I am happier with it then I possibly could be
with a dozen 909's or MC303 grooveboxes.
Its so dirty! the groove is completely deranged and sounds like an old italo
disco drummer on some wrong dope.
(Know I've heard a lot of people complaining about Rolands lack of tight
MIDI triggering on some of
their older instruments, but this simply adds realism!)



vocals and whatnot

2000-04-28 Thread The Deliverator
Hello All,

Thanks to those who posted info on the RZ-1.  FWIW, there is one on ebay at the 
moment for around USD100.  It still has five days left though

On a completely different trip, I was wondering if anyone out there could 
recommend some good techno with *tastefull* vocal samples.  I really like the 
mills' style of vocal use in 'if'-  the vocals are there, but are treated like 
any other instrument.  They don't overpower the song.

Once again, thanks for all your assistance (collectively!)

out

jim


Re: (313) Help!

2000-04-28 Thread Kuri Kondrak
the sonic groove web site stated that it was from the same producer.

kuri
> Quick question, that new Abuser record that came out this week, is that done 
> by User??  Cuz if it's not it's a blatant rip-off, not only musically but in 
> artistic terms as well (the label on there is the same one that User uses!). 
> Thanks in advance for the info!  Pieces...
> 
> 'Michigan' Myke [1 TRAK Resident]
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Verdict

2000-04-28 Thread Myke Mitchell
Hey all, just curious to know if anyone has any comments on the ruling that 
came out today that said MP3.COM has infringed copyright laws of the 
recording industry.  See it here:


http://webcrawler-news.excite.com/news/ap/000428/12/mp3-lawsuit

Crazy shit!  Pieces

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Help!

2000-04-28 Thread Myke Mitchell
Quick question, that new Abuser record that came out this week, is that done 
by User??  Cuz if it's not it's a blatant rip-off, not only musically but in 
artistic terms as well (the label on there is the same one that User uses!). 
Thanks in advance for the info!  Pieces...


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Re: (313) dbx - giving it to ya raw

2000-04-28 Thread Jernej Marusic
While speaking of drum sounds. Does anyone know where did Todd Terry get
those
tribalish drum sounds used on his old records, that everyone is sampling
now
(Sims, User, Recycled Loops...).

> Of course you get the BOSS drummachines FOR THEIR CRAP SOUNDS! You can
get
> 808/909 sounds from everywhere, but it's the "unique" sounds in those
> machines that make them interesting. It's great to see producers
makin'
> tracks, whole records even, just with a simple drummachine. I know
there are
> lot of people who say "you must search for the most extreme and unique

> sounds as possible, synth your own sounds etc.", but I think using
what's
> available at the time is most important. You can make any old shit
sound
> cool if you just analyze what's good about it and what's not, then you
use
> it for it's GOOD features, be it sounds, sequncer, filters etc.
>
> Perhaps it's showing us something when most drumpatterns in modern
techno
> -and housemusic are basic, average shit. 4/4 kick, a snare, handclaps
and
> hi-hats, that's all about there is. There's lots of cheap and useful
gear,
> why not use them and make things a little funkier?

Jernej

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Re: (313) Fwd: Derrick May in NY?

2000-04-28 Thread James Bucknell


prett sure it's confirmed. hasn't been much talk about it because it sounds like
such a horrible club. as much as i like derrick may, i'm going to bang the party
instead.
james




"K Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 04/28/2000 11:29:12 AM

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cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst)
Subject:  (313) Fwd: Derrick May in NY?




Somehow hadn't heard this being promoted, but someone just forwarded this to
me; anyone know whether this has been confirmed?

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This Friday:
DJ's Derrick May and O'Sheen
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rave and 313

2000-04-28 Thread _tan_

313ers...

I was going through my housemates records the other day and found an old 
rave classic called "Can You feel It" by Terrorize on Hamster Records 
(1992) ... now i know Kevin Saunderson did a few remixes of rave tunes in 
the early 90s and this is one of them.. but what i found surprising was the 
additional production credit going to Stacey Pullen. are there any other 
"rave" tunes that 313 musicians remixed???


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Re: (313) Fwd: Derrick May in NY?

2000-04-28 Thread OscillateX2
Spoke to the folks at Transmat and Derrick is expected to arrive in town 
later this afternoon...

I saw flyers on the street this week...poorly promoted, but...

pw


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>to 
>me; anyone know whether this has been confirmed?
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>Subject: Imagine Fridays
>
>Tom Mello invites you to:
>Imagine Fridays @ Exit
>610 W 56th Street NYC
>This Friday:
>DJ's Derrick May and O'Sheen
>call 212-330-9018
>
>Every Sunday
>Bill Spector invites you to
>Enjoy @ Chaos
>225 E Houston St (NYC)
>still going strong!  with DJ Mark Ronson
>call 212-629-2098
>


Re: (313) Track ID

2000-04-28 Thread Phonopsia
Yeah. It isn't that one. :> I think that was one of the first "techno" songs
I ever heard though. Different vocal sample, but the same words.

Tristan
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Date: Thursday, April 27, 2000 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Track ID



sounds like it could be an old N-Joi track, but I suppose I should listen
to the set first, eh? :)

-d

On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Phonopsia wrote:

> Not sure if this was asked recently or not.
>
> Stacey Pullen's betalounge set from the Transmat tour in SF, 46 minutes
in,
> has a slammin choon. It has a sample "Let the bass kick". Any help?
>
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Re: (313) Track ID

2000-04-28 Thread Phonopsia
>>> Stacey Pullen's betalounge set from the Transmat tour in SF, 46 minutes
in,
>>> has a slammin choon. It has a sample "Let the bass kick". Any help?
>
>>sounds like it could be an old N-Joi track, but I suppose I should listen
>>to the set first, eh? :)
>
>>or it could be enigma.. a dutch pregabber thing
>>but i suppose i should listen to the set first as well :)
>
>
>haven't listened to this set either [naturally!] - but there's a track
>that sample 'let the bass kick' by the hacker out on goodlife records
>recently out of france - could be that.?
>
>cheers!
>
>simon


That's probably it then. Sounds pretty new.

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Fwd: Derrick May in NY?

2000-04-28 Thread K Hawkins
Somehow hadn't heard this being promoted, but someone just forwarded this to 
me; anyone know whether this has been confirmed?


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Imagine Fridays @ Exit
610 W 56th Street NYC
This Friday:
DJ's Derrick May and O'Sheen
call 212-330-9018

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Bill Spector invites you to
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this SUNDAY...SWANK! 4/30

2000-04-28 Thread Thecmg999
Come check out SWANK this Sunday, 4/30, at the Token Lounge in the 
oh-so-beautiful Westland, MI. To kick off the first week, Michael Geiger will 
be in the main room with Kruse Kontrol and JB in the other room. ladies get 
in for free and  dudes, you pay $7. if you are a dude over 21 you get a free 
drink ticket worth $4. Anyway, see you guys there.

Token Lounge
28949 joy road  
2 blocks east of middlebelt.

Directions:
basically get to 96. If you are coming form the East: take 96 west to 
middlebelt rd. go left onto middlebelt. take that 2 miles until you hit Joy 
road. take left on Joy. It will be 2 blocks up on your left hand side.

>From the West. 96 west to middlebelt. take right on middlebelt, go 2 miles 
down, take left at Joy Rd. 2 blocks up on your right hand side.


Re: (313) Track ID

2000-04-28 Thread Otto Koppius
marsel wrote:
> 
> or it could be enigma.. a dutch pregabber thing

That'd be Egma, not Enigma :)
Released in 1991 on Midtown (!) I think, right around that early Praga
Khan-style era. I'm pretty sure they sampled the "Let the bass kick" and
speeded it up a little, but for the life of me I couldn't remember where
from. The track in Stacey Pullen's set is different though, although the
sample sounds similar, only slightly slower.

Otto


Re: (313) Track ID

2000-04-28 Thread Simon.Conway


>> Stacey Pullen's betalounge set from the Transmat tour in SF, 46 minutes in,
>> has a slammin choon. It has a sample "Let the bass kick". Any help?

>sounds like it could be an old N-Joi track, but I suppose I should listen
>to the set first, eh? :)

>or it could be enigma.. a dutch pregabber thing
>but i suppose i should listen to the set first as well :)


haven't listened to this set either [naturally!] - but there's a track
that sample 'let the bass kick' by the hacker out on goodlife records
recently out of france - could be that.?

cheers!

simon




RE: (313) Track ID

2000-04-28 Thread Richard Hart
while we're at it - does anyone know the track that comes on
at about fifty minutes?

Rich

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>
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> minutes in,
> has a slammin choon. It has a sample "Let the bass kick". Any help?
>
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Discographies

2000-04-28 Thread Charles Prince
Thanks for the correction, Peter. It's Michigan Breaks, and 'Ewen is the
Teacher'isn't it? ;=) Managed to grab a copy of the book. The Detroit-or
'Techno' part-is a short but provocative critique. I've taken the
liberty of quoting some of it for the benefit of all: 

"Sonically the music played on the received distinction between
'technology' and 'humanity', choosing to forego the disco-derived
voluptuousness of house music in favour of a certain coolness, a refusal
to force machine-music into shapes and textures which would conform to
traditional, humanist notions of 'musicality'.
   At times its preoccupation with discourses of the
future-in-the-present, a modernist politics of the 'underground', and the
implicit avant-gardism pursued by some of its protagonists, has seemed to
carry techno almost towards an accommodation with those puritan discourses
to which dance culture is normally so hostile. May's reputed revulsion at
the Dionysian idiocy of the UK rave scene is ironic when one considers how
much it owed to records such as his own 'Strings of Life'. An unfortunate
desire to uphold a Detroit 'aesthetic', when techno continued to mutate,
alter and influence in Europe, feeding into rave, trance and ultimately
such forms as gabber, has sometimes been manifested in a fondness for
'purism' and geographical authenticity (not of course exclusive to techno
by any means) in some of the cultures and discourses around it, often by
white musicians and journalists on behalf of black or diasporic musical
forms. These forget that techno at its most exciting collided American and
European traditions, rather than merely retracing narratives of
appropriation."

Wes

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> 
> Actually, it's called Michigan Breaks...
> 
> pw
> 



Re: (313) Books (was rough guide to techno)

2000-04-28 Thread rol leider
Would that be the Ewan Pearson who records as Maas for Soma? I remember 
picking up a record of his that had on it a Zoyd and Prairie mix: a 
reference to characters in a Thomas Pynchon novel. Pynchon's a pretty weird 
and difficult postmodern author, and the reference made me think Ewan 
Pearson must be a well-read kind of a guy. If the Discographies book's by 
him, would suggest he's quite the renaissance man.


Cheers

Rol


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From: "Dissonance Electronic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Books (was rough guide to techno)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 03:25:21 WST

While books are in issue i'd like to recommend a book i picked up from the
music library at uni. It's a brand new book but from a major publisher so it
shouldnt be to hard to track down. Its called
"Discographies : dance music, culture and the politics of sound" By Jeremy
Gilbert and Ewan Pearson.(Published: London ; New York : Routledge, 1999.)
And I cant do it justice in a short description but its a critical /
theoretical / cultural approach to many of the issues involved in dance
music (which in their definition includes house, techno, soul,disco hip hop
etc). Their analysis draws on contemporary critical theory using the work of
Barthes, Kristeva, Derrida, Foucault et al. (while it utilizes these
thinkers the book is always careful to explain the ideas that they are
drawing on - you dont have to go and read the thinkers to understand the
book) Its not a history but a very sophisticated analysis of the the role of
music and dance music in particular in western culture. Of particular
interest was a section where they looked at some of the reasons why western
culture is so resistant to dance music. Its quite academic but very
rewarding - i dont find it arrogant or pretensious either but i have some
experience with this sort of writing. I'd recommend it to any one who is
interested in 'dance music' in the broadest sense of the word. Its also very
applicable to experimental electronic music. Any one who wants some more
info feel free to email me.
Peace
Josh


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Re: (313) rz-1 was DBX

2000-04-28 Thread jim proffit

Kent williams wrote:


Legend has it that the first version of "work this motherf*cker" was made
by sampling "work" "this" "mother" and "f*cker" into the RZ-1.




I always wondered if that track was made like that, since RZ has about 0,8 
seconds sampling time in total, and you can divide it to four 0,2 sec 
pieces. OR (so I'm sold), you can assign the whole (luxurious) 0,8 secs to 
one pad. That way it could be possible to sample that legendary sentence: 
"Work that motherfucka" in one pad and trigger it how you want to...?


Another track if I remember correctly that used RZ's sampling capapility was 
Yellow House's "Jack my body" (Dance Mania). That infamous melody was made 
with it. (And that melody, apparently was stolen from Jamie Principle's "Bad 
boy", or other way 'round)


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Re: (313) Track ID

2000-04-28 Thread marsel

or it could be enigma.. a dutch pregabber thing
but i suppose i should listen to the set first as well :)

At 27-4-00 -0700 21:02, you wrote:


sounds like it could be an old N-Joi track, but I suppose I should listen
to the set first, eh? :)

-d

On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Phonopsia wrote:

> Not sure if this was asked recently or not.
>
> Stacey Pullen's betalounge set from the Transmat tour in SF, 46 minutes in,
> has a slammin choon. It has a sample "Let the bass kick". Any help?
>


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Re: (313) dbx - giving it to ya raw

2000-04-28 Thread jim proffit


> -Now we're waitin for the BOSS 550mkII/660 drummachine mania to sweep 
over
> the whole civilized world. Now the only people who actually use (and 
abuse)
> the machine are Dance Mania producers and "rock"musicians... Hint hint 
;)

>
> Proffit
> 
This was the first instrument I picked up, and I got it solely based on the
fact it was Squarepusher's only piece of kit for drums..the 550 is
pretty lame but the 660 is a great machine, tho basically you're buying a
bunch of samples of roland's earlier accomplishments...it's sitting in the
corner looking sad these days. I lend it to a friend sometimes who plays
only acoustic guitar to use as a glorified click track, it sounds so crap 
in

this setting it's scary.

Jason



Of course you get the BOSS drummachines FOR THEIR CRAP SOUNDS! You can get 
808/909 sounds from everywhere, but it's the "unique" sounds in those 
machines that make them interesting. It's great to see producers makin' 
tracks, whole records even, just with a simple drummachine. I know there are 
lot of people who say "you must search for the most extreme and unique 
sounds as possible, synth your own sounds etc.", but I think using what's 
available at the time is most important. You can make any old shit sound 
cool if you just analyze what's good about it and what's not, then you use 
it for it's GOOD features, be it sounds, sequncer, filters etc.


Perhaps it's showing us something when most drumpatterns in modern techno 
-and housemusic are basic, average shit. 4/4 kick, a snare, handclaps and 
hi-hats, that's all about there is. There's lots of cheap and useful gear, 
why not use them and make things a little funkier?


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detronik transmit:: cleveland

2000-04-28 Thread synthetic detronik

::.::.:.::..::.:.:.:::.:..:.:::.:.
transmission from detronik space lab :.::.::.::.::

:synthetic detroit and multi-disk records presents:

an evening of synthetic communication via multi-dimensional media

date:  05.20.00
time:  22:00 hr
location:  speak in tongues
map quad:  4311 Lorain Ave. West 43rd + Lorain - Cleveland, Ohio
contact:   216.631.8790

featured live sets:

detronik :
mars transmission, detroit

naheed kaleida choudhre :
pc manipulation, detroit

overtone :
additive d n b, cleveland

kendal :
audible trip, cleveland

::.:::..::.::..:::.:..::.::.:..:.:::.::.::
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inspirations

2000-04-28 Thread viagratek .
this was written by my 17 year old sister vanessa after reading a portion of 
TECHNO REBELS...



brain food manifests itself as brain music formulated to stimulate the 
brainwaves connected to our sensory outlets that allow us to hear each 
intricate sound layed down subtly for us who listen for it.
we can see such talent presented in front of our eyes to feel the music 
touch in unison the beat of the song with the beat of our hearts. hearts 
that pound harder and stronger as the music affects our profound side so 
deeply that we are no longer conscious enough and we get sucked into the 
hole of the sounds that bounce from wall to wall and place us in between it 
all.
we have become one with the intruiging sounds that have been transmitted in 
us to make us feel exactly the way they were intended to understand why such 
a soul would be so ingenious to organize each sound in that order to make a 
specific sound for a specific crowd that appreciates it for its true worth. 
which is based on the person's preference daring to listen to something so 
technologically orientated.






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RE: (313) Books (was rough guide to techno)

2000-04-28 Thread Jason Birchmeier
I went to Borders tonight to get a copy of "rough guide to techno" and was
sad to find out that it isn't due to be published here in the US until June.

I did stumble onto some interesting info about another book written by Tim
Barr called "Brighter Daze" that is also due to be published in June.  Looks
to be another techno rebels/gen ecstacy-style book on the history of dance
music.  I don't know what the emphasis is though.  I'm trying to contact the
publisher and get a press copy.

Anyone hear anything about this book?

...Jason

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Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 11:25 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Books (was rough guide to techno)


While books are in issue i'd like to recommend a book i picked up from the
music library at uni. It's a brand new book but from a major publisher so it
shouldnt be to hard to track down. Its called
"Discographies : dance music, culture and the politics of sound" By Jeremy
Gilbert and Ewan Pearson.(Published: London ; New York : Routledge, 1999.)
And I cant do it justice in a short description but its a critical /
theoretical / cultural approach to many of the issues involved in dance
music (which in their definition includes house, techno, soul,disco hip hop
etc). Their analysis draws on contemporary critical theory using the work of
Barthes, Kristeva, Derrida, Foucault et al. (while it utilizes these
thinkers the book is always careful to explain the ideas that they are
drawing on - you dont have to go and read the thinkers to understand the
book) Its not a history but a very sophisticated analysis of the the role of
music and dance music in particular in western culture. Of particular
interest was a section where they looked at some of the reasons why western
culture is so resistant to dance music. Its quite academic but very
rewarding - i dont find it arrogant or pretensious either but i have some
experience with this sort of writing. I'd recommend it to any one who is
interested in 'dance music' in the broadest sense of the word. Its also very
applicable to experimental electronic music. Any one who wants some more
info feel free to email me.
Peace
Josh


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Re: (313) Track ID

2000-04-28 Thread Dan Sicko

sounds like it could be an old N-Joi track, but I suppose I should listen
to the set first, eh? :)

-d

On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Phonopsia wrote:

> Not sure if this was asked recently or not.
> 
> Stacey Pullen's betalounge set from the Transmat tour in SF, 46 minutes in,
> has a slammin choon. It has a sample "Let the bass kick". Any help?
> 
> Tristan
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Re: (313) Detroit Gran Pubas live

2000-04-28 Thread Hans Veneman
> Can someone repost the URL for that Heckle & Jeckle/DGP set in RealVideo?

You mean this one?

http://player.pseudo.com/real_clip.asp?id_arc=5268

Cheers,
Hans

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Fwd: Fw: [digitalnoise] the final email....

2000-04-28 Thread Diana Potts


for those thinking u have forever to listen to the Paris live PA in Miami, 
please read on.Basically u have till the end of May to listen to it.

this was forwarded to me by mark f. of 313

  RIP

frustrated.
diana



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Subject: [digitalnoise] the final email


>
> ... digitalnoise ...
>... update ...
>   
>  ..
>
> >1> THU APR 27 - digitalnoise closes up the shop
>
> Okay, so by now you all pretty much know that last night's webcast with 
DJ Suv was our last one. (It was a wicked way to go out too.. look for the 
archive soon). I've been getting a lot of emails asking what the deal is, 
so I figured since I've hit up your email boxes with at least 200 emails 
over the past year and a half, I might as well send out one more and 
explain the situation.

>
> Some of you on this email list have been on here since the begining, but 
some of you may not know that digitalnoise has actually been around since 
September 1998. We started out broadcasting two nights a week from my loft 
in Brooklyn with DJs like Christian Bruna, Holmar Filipsson, A.Gram, Justin 
Johnson, Ulysses, Dharma, the Satellite Records crew, the Funky Soul Rebels 
and more. The DJs provided the beats for 2 hours each and we provided an 
endless supply of Brooklyn Lager (a fine micro brew). The first show was 
done by Holmar Filipsson and both he, the digi.crew and the 12 or so people 
hanging out that night had no idea what to expect. I think we had 5 
listeners that first broadcast. There were more people in my loft than 
there were online :)

>
> Well, Holmar's set was unebelievably good and completely inspired me and 
the rest of the digi.crew to press on. It wasn't too long after our first 
Brooklyn Studio show that we made the switch to live webcasts from clubs. 
Jungle Nation and Konkrete Jungle were our first two regular events. We 
eventually added N'Ice, Sticky, Physics, Direct Drive and took on special 
one-off events. You rag-tagged digi.crew managed to broadcast 3 events from 
the Winter Music Conference 1999 with only 2 weeks of planning. We got to 
carry more CMJ events in 1999 than anyone else and we must've set records 
for remote webcasting with our 48 hour Baktun marathon and two simultaneous 
streams of audio and video for 12 hours straight from Engage down in 
Washington, DC. All in all, its been a fantastic year and a half.

>
> So what's the problem? Well, the entire digitalnoise.com site is
> basically cared for by 4 people. Expenses were covered out of our own 
pockets (do you know how much Ethernet cable is needed to wire a network in 
the Washington DC Armory??) and we all had other jobs - thankfully with 
very flexible hours and understanding co-workers (thanks CTG!).

>
> Our goal was to make digitalnoise even more than it currently is. We had
> plans for a new air studio to go back to our Brooklyn Studio roots and
> even more live club broadcasts. We wanted to add quality video, better
> audio, and more features to the site. All of this takes even more time
> and much more money. Being that we're a "dot com" and a fairly
> successfull one, we figured it shouldn't be too hard to get some
> investors to help us out and kick start digitalnoise to the next level.
> Unfortunately, we couldn't do that.
>
> We've spend the last 6 months or so looking for serious startup capital.
> Either from a lack of experience in raising the money, or from the
> investors' general impression that 'electronica' isn't popular enough, 
we

> just couldn't pull it off. We're positive that digitalnoise would have
> become one of the most extensive content and community sites centered
> around DJ-orientated music. There's no doubt in my mind. We just 
couldn't

> convince the people with money that this was the case.
>
> So now we've put ourselves into debt, wrecked relationships, quit jobs
> and generally over extended ourselves to pull this off. Was it worth it?
> Hells yes!! I wouldn't trade in the time I spent on digitalnoise for
> anything. Looking back over the 200+ webcasts we've carried (more remote
> webcasts than anyone ever has before - well over 1000 hours of music) 
I'm
> proud to say we probably had the best and most consitent webcast 
schedule

> on the Internet - especially for drum'n'bass.
>
> The only problem is that we stopped getting better. We have this grand
> vision of what digitalnoise should be and without the startup capital we
> just can't pull it off. So without being able to reach that goal, we've
> decided that its time to move on.
>
> with that said though, there actually is still a glimmer of hope. 
I'm

> not lieing when I say we are actually still talking with people and
> trying to make things happen. It's a last ditch effort, but if things do
> work out, digitalnoise

Track ID

2000-04-28 Thread Phonopsia
Not sure if this was asked recently or not.

Stacey Pullen's betalounge set from the Transmat tour in SF, 46 minutes in,
has a slammin choon. It has a sample "Let the bass kick". Any help?

Tristan
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Re: (313) Detroit Gran Pubas live

2000-04-28 Thread Diana Potts


There were Sony Japan people there who had this great digital camera, shot 
really well in the dark. It had me drooling. Don't know where they posted 
that stuff yet.
We tried to shoot in the club, but our digital camera couldn't deal with the 
low light. I'll know better next time.

Paris and Billeebob spun though, no live PA unfortunately.


d



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Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Gran Pubas live
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:39:05 -0400

> Can someone repost the URL for that Heckle & Jeckle/DGP set in 
RealVideo?


The Pseudo clip of the Pubahs (filmed in the courtyard of the
Albion at WMC) was
http://player.pseudo.com/real_clip.asp?id_arc=5268

If anyone captured Heckle & Jeckle in NYC, I'd love to see that!

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Re: (313) DEMF tip

2000-04-28 Thread Dale Lawrence

How redundant can I get?  I meant "and will be
attending the press conference"

Too many webpages, not enough sunshine I guess...

At 08:58 PM 4/27/00 -0400, you wrote:
>
>   Well... those that would be updating the
>   website also happen to be on the 313 list
>   and will be attending the website, so I'm
>   sure the website will be updated as fast
>   as someone can post a report here anyway.  ;P
>
>   nyah.
>
>   Dale
>
>
>At 05:44 PM 4/27/00 PDT, you wrote:
>>The press conference for the festival is May 1st. Though it set to be up on 
>>the web a couple hours after, would anyone here in the detroit area who is 
>>attending want to volunteer as (313) liason? Perhaps take notes at the
press 
>>junkit to relay to (313)?
>>
>>diana
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Re: (313) DEMF tip

2000-04-28 Thread Dale Lawrence

Well... those that would be updating the
website also happen to be on the 313 list
and will be attending the website, so I'm
sure the website will be updated as fast
as someone can post a report here anyway.  ;P

nyah.

Dale


At 05:44 PM 4/27/00 PDT, you wrote:
>The press conference for the festival is May 1st. Though it set to be up on 
>the web a couple hours after, would anyone here in the detroit area who is 
>attending want to volunteer as (313) liason? Perhaps take notes at the press 
>junkit to relay to (313)?
>
>diana




Re: (313) DEMF tip

2000-04-28 Thread Diana Potts
The press conference for the festival is May 1st. Though it set to be up on 
the web a couple hours after, would anyone here in the detroit area who is 
attending want to volunteer as (313) liason? Perhaps take notes at the press 
junkit to relay to (313)?


diana



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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) DEMF tip
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:14:25 -0400

Just heard from someone that each of the 3 days will be designated to a
certain musical genre.

Those 3 being - House, Techno, and Hip Hop.

Also, they are banking on the largest draw being the Hip Hop day.

Cheers,

Gerald.

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Re: (313) Discographies

2000-04-28 Thread OscillateX2

In a message dated 4/27/00 5:25:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>np. Detroit Breaks - Maas 

Actually, it's called Michigan Breaks...

pw


DEMF tip

2000-04-28 Thread Gerald
Just heard from someone that each of the 3 days will be designated to a
certain musical genre. 

Those 3 being - House, Techno, and Hip Hop.

Also, they are banking on the largest draw being the Hip Hop day.

Cheers,

Gerald.