Re: Avoid opening the same request-id twice

2006-09-07 Thread Jarl Grøneng

Maybe can use a record locking mechanism like this:
http://www.rrr.se/sv/products/2.html#rrrlock

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On 9/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, anyone tried this successfully, to prevent user X from opening the same 
request-id twice?
Use Global fields ..?
Give an error/warning(?) message if criteria is met?
Any way to switch to the already opended window?
L ars Pettersson
Vattenfall Business Services Nordic AB
Action Request System Engineer (Tabasco)
S-461 88 Trollhättan
Sweden

Phone +46 520 888 35 Mobil +46 70 608 99 95
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Re: CMDB 2.0 implentation

2006-09-07 Thread Jarl Grøneng

I highly recomend attending a traing class

I'm on my last day in attending CMDB 2.0: Implementation Best Practices.

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On 9/7/06, Den Fong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Hi

I have just installed CMDB 2.0, and going through the documentation.
However it doesn't have much on next steps, ie tying into data sources,
populating data?  Or defining business process classes?

Anybody have any info on the best approach to getting the CMDB functional?

Thx

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Re: Macros for multiple users

2006-09-07 Thread lars . j . pettersson
**



It 
also possiby to have more > 1 path for example c:\Program 
files\\home;H:\test\macros;E:\Common\macros
 
Just 
separate them with a semicolon, this sting is stored in the user pref 
form.
L 
ars

  -Original Message-From: Action Request System 
  discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Susan 
  PalmerSent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:51 AMTo: 
  arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: Macros for multiple 
  users** So to clarify, you have the .arq files copied to 
  everyone's arcmds path on their own computers.  Then they should see 
  them.  Check the path they have in their Tools / Options which should 
  point to that same folder.  When they record a macro do they see it? 
  I'm not sure if Preferences will make a difference if those are 
  utilized since we don't use them.  Someone else might chime in on 
  that.  Do you used Centralized  Preferences?Susan
  On 9/7/06, Hall, 
  Granville V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
  
** 


Thanks 
Susan,
 
We've been just 
copying them all to that folder on each of the computers because it was the 
default for Remedy.  I should clarify that they other users are on the 
local machine.  I'll try moving it to the network and see if that 
helps.  It was weird because they were there and then they disappeared 
and they only show up for me.
 
Thanks.
 




From: 
Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] 
On Behalf Of Susan 
PalmerSent: Thursday, 
September 07, 2006 9:23 PMTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: Macros for multiple 
users
 
** Buddy,
The macros are on YOUR harddrive.  The only way others 
could get to them would be for your computer to be shared and the network 
path to that location be put in Tools / Options in the path field on the 
other computers.  Generally people choose a network location 
for commonly used macros or they simply distribute them (via email) to 
others that may use them and they store them in the path you have listed 
below on their own computer.  That's the default path provided during 
the client install and you can change it and/or add an additional path to 
it. Susan




On 9/7/06, Hall, 
Granville V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey 
guys,I have an interesting problem going on.  We are 
running Remedy User6.0.3 and I have macros in the C:\Program Files\AR 
System\HOME\ARCmds,but they are only showing up for me in the macro bar 
and not the other users of the computer.  Do you have any idea 
why that would be?Thanks,Buddy 
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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Pierson, Shawn
My technique is not only to use ARSList and bounce it off of other people I 
know off-list, but to involve our BMC sales rep too.  The sales guys may not be 
able to answer the technical question, but they care a lot about customer 
service and make sure that the right people get involved.  Unfortunately that 
does mean that the BMC sales folks get two jobs instead of just being involved 
with sales, but that is BMC's problem to deal with.

Additionally, I've always gotten better support from BMC than I have from other 
companies.  Ever try dealing with Microsoft or Adobe?  It's horrible, no matter 
how much you pay.



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Kirk Cassady
Sent: Thu 9/7/2006 7:50 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!



Although I rarely call support, my last 3 calls were fielded in India.

I have no problem with that as long as I get good support.

The problem is each time they couldn't answer the questions and it took an 
engineer from the USA to provide the expected support.

Support costs too much to make us go through a "filtering" system that just 
causes delays.

So therefore I only call support when I have exhausted all other sources...even 
though we're paying big bucks for it.

Big thumbs up for ARLIST!

We should feel that we can easily call support when needed instead of avoiding 
it.

Kirk


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Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Rick cook
I know you weren't, Tim, and I share your desire for restraint.  I think
we're saying the same thing from different directions, and it's appreciated.
My point is that this poster may be just as you suggested: throwing a tasty
morsel of blood into the water, because he likes to see what the sharks do.

Where I disagree is with the assertion that everyone is deserving of the
same level of assumed credibility.  You or I or any of the regular posters
is known for not pulling the list's collective leg or jerking us around.  We
don't know this guy to that level.  He may be speaking the truth, but he's
going to have to put something up to prove it to me.

So, JP, put up some corroborating evidence to support your assertions, or
restate them as nothing but your personal opinion, to which you are, as Tim
said, entitled.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 6:17 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

Rick,

I wasn't advocating a "knee-jerk" reaction. I'm not sure that I am ready to
jump on the "outsourcing" bandwagonone way or the other. I have my
opinion on the subject, but until I know BMC's actual direction, I'll
withhold it.

I'm just saying...let's all be nice to each other until we know for a fact
that somebody is "trolling" or whatever their motive, until it's actually
known. Everybody deserves the benefit of the doubt. You knowinnocent
until proven guilty. Just because he hasn't posted regularly doesn't mean
that he's not credible. He may be a CA rep trying to stir the potbut
then again, he may know what he's talking about. 

Claire is a regular postershe has clout on this list. To newbie's, that
haven't archived the list postings since...wheneveror might know now
betterher word might be "golden". So her comments might lean a person to
totally disregard Jamahowal's posting, and that's not what we want to do
(IMHO). We're all intelligent people. We can make informed decisions. Let's
not bash each other until we know for a fact that the person is a
fraud...nut case...or a competitor trying to make us stew about an unknown.

M2CW,
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick cook
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:36 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

Ok, everyone, let's calm down a bit.

1)  Claire's point (IMHO) is not that this guy doesn't have the right to
post, it's that because he's not one of the regulars, his comments, which
were both inflammatory and out of left field, aren't deserving of assumed
credibility.  4 posts over a long period of time isn't enough to get known
and trusted by a significant number of people.

2)  Tim is right in that anyone has the right to post information, but this
post was almost the equivalent of yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.  I
don't know the poster's motivation or the accuracy of his claims, and won't
comment on them until I do.  I would suggest a similar attitude on the part
of my fellow listers - let the original comments stand or fall away based on
the evidence (if any) brought to support them.  I for one will not be
manipulated into a knee-jerk reaction to a drive-by posting.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:53 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

I found 4 postings from Jamahowalso farCLAIRE.
Quit being ugly to the guyit defeats the purpose of this listwhich
is to encourage discussion and active participation from ALL members
regardless of their past participation history. Everybody here has something
to contribute. Just because we all aren't James, Rick or Axton (congrats to
all for their win and nomination) doesn't mean we don't have something
useful or intelligent to sayevery contribution is needed and welcome.
IMHOif you don't think we all have something to sayUNSUBSCRIBE!


Tim
 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:14 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
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Excuse me... I found one... 7/28/2005 a job available post. 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamahowal Pinitubel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:02 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

Claire, contact me offline at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would like to

validate my authent

Re: Webservices question

2006-09-07 Thread CONDREA, Daniel
**








Hi All!

 

Whet it comes to WS the examples are of public
WS. I am trying to consume an private WS build on ARS version 6.3 in VB.NET.

 

Can anybody suggest a way to consume a private
WS using NET?

 

Best regards,

Daniel

 









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System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb Partlow
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006
1:53 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Webservices question



 

Thanks Fred… I guess my next
question would be, does anyone have an

example of XML that makes use of Search
menu they could share.

I want to keep this form as much data
driven as possible. 

 



Herb 



 

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From: Action Request System
discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 2:38 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re:
Webservices question

 

Depends on the
Menu.   Selection Lists, Radio Buttons, and Check Boxes have the data
in the WSDL.  Character and Search Menus do not unless you do your own XML
Schema.

 

Fred

 











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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:25 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Webservices question

** 

 Good
Afternoon Everyone 

 


Quick question on web services  

   


   
When I create a web service for a form that contains drop down menus. 

   
Will these drop down menu be available when someone writes a webpage
(html/java) to 

   
consume this web service?

 


Thanks


Herb



 





 








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Re: Remedy/SMS with xinify

2006-09-07 Thread Kelly Deaver
**
Xinify has built an integration between SMS 2003 and CMDB 2 /Asset 7 using Remedy Link for SQL 7. The integration is in closed beta at the moment but will soon be available FREE to the BMC community. We were commissioned by BMC to build this integration and it was done with the full support of Remedy Engineering. 
 
A little background - The product Remedy Discovery Services for SMS is based on Enterprise Integration Engine (EIE) and an adapter was built to talk to SMS via WMI. This was revised/updated to work with EIE 7 but there are no out of box mappings and it is is really slow. An alternative was demanded by several customers. That's were we come in.
 
The Microsoft SMS Atrium Integration is using Remedy Link for SQL, also based on EIE, but going directly to the SQL tables and views. The reason we went this way is because is is exponentially faster. Additionally, our integration comes with the "mapping and exchange" work already done. Mapping is EIE term for basically doing push field from a source to a target. Echanges are the containers that run like an escalation to trigger the mappings to run. The mappings create/update/delete(if desired) CIs and Relationships in Atrium. Not only that but it includes workflow to cleanse and normalize some data and includes sample reconciliation rules and categorization workflow. It is as close to plug and play as you can get considering both SMS and Remedy applications could have been customized. 
-Kelly DeaverDirector, ITSM PracticeXinify[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Original Message Subject: Remedy/SMS with xinifyFrom: "McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3"             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Thu, September 07, 2006 1:30 pmTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG** 
Again, another request for comments and best practices advise on this comibination?
 
James McKenzie
L-3 GSI
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Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Susan Palmer
**
Patrick ... you wax so poetic tonight They did mention last week that everyone will be using it directly from the box in the future and customizations will not be needed ... lol   Guess in that case everything will be perfect (yea right) and support won't be needed!
On 9/7/06, patrick zandi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
if this is false.. so be it.. yif it is true.. very sad to watch them go away..they will do that to the old standard.. and eventually.. to the product too.drain the life blood and the liberty that it was created by.. cover it
in bureaucracy, paperwork and smother it with managers.. it will justdisappear..On 9/7/06, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> ** Possibly what makes JP's comments a little hard to accept as 'trusted' is
> because we don't know who he is.  He doesn't say where he works and hasn't> in the past either.  What is his connection to Remedy?  Support is a very> sensitive topic since we have all had occurrences of good and bad support
> over time and on behalf of our companies we spend a good deal of money on> support.>> JP's post was not much more than a tabloid equivalent story where a 'high> ranking official that cannot be named because they are not supposed to be
> talking' has provided the information.  As a company employee when I submit> the invoice for support it feels alot different than when I was a> consultant.  I'm saying that there is value to this service I'm requesting
> them to spend a great deal of money on.  And we don't have to go through all> the points of what support covers, I know them.>> JP put the post out there and he should be prepared to support the post.
> Claire doesn't need to defending and has a right to her opinion also.  So> JP, where's the supporting information ... let's give this story some> credibility and be done with it!>> Susan
>>> On 9/7/06, Timothy Powell> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Rick,> >> > I wasn't advocating a "knee-jerk" reaction. I'm not sure that I am ready
> to> > jump on the "outsourcing" bandwagonone way or the other. I have my> > opinion on the subject, but until I know BMC's actual direction, I'll> > withhold it.> >
> > I'm just saying...let's all be nice to each other until we know for a fact> > that somebody is "trolling" or whatever their motive, until it's actually> > known. Everybody deserves the benefit of the doubt. You knowinnocent
> > until proven guilty. Just because he hasn't posted regularly doesn't mean> > that he's not credible. He may be a CA rep trying to stir the potbut> > then again, he may know what he's talking about.
> >> > Claire is a regular postershe has clout on this list. To newbie's,> that> > haven't archived the list postings since...wheneveror might know now> > betterher word might be "golden". So her comments might lean a person
> to> > totally disregard Jamahowal's posting, and that's not what we want to do> > (IMHO). We're all intelligent people. We can make informed decisions.> Let's> > not bash each other until we know for a fact that the person is a
> > fraud...nut case...or a competitor trying to make us stew about an> unknown.> >> > M2CW,> > Tim> >> > -Original Message-> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
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Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread patrick zandi

if this is false.. so be it.. y
if it is true.. very sad to watch them go away..
they will do that to the old standard.. and eventually.. to the product too.
drain the life blood and the liberty that it was created by.. cover it
in bureaucracy, paperwork and smother it with managers.. it will just
disappear..


On 9/7/06, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

** Possibly what makes JP's comments a little hard to accept as 'trusted' is
because we don't know who he is.  He doesn't say where he works and hasn't
in the past either.  What is his connection to Remedy?  Support is a very
sensitive topic since we have all had occurrences of good and bad support
over time and on behalf of our companies we spend a good deal of money on
support.

JP's post was not much more than a tabloid equivalent story where a 'high
ranking official that cannot be named because they are not supposed to be
talking' has provided the information.  As a company employee when I submit
the invoice for support it feels alot different than when I was a
consultant.  I'm saying that there is value to this service I'm requesting
them to spend a great deal of money on.  And we don't have to go through all
the points of what support covers, I know them.

JP put the post out there and he should be prepared to support the post.
Claire doesn't need to defending and has a right to her opinion also.  So
JP, where's the supporting information ... let's give this story some
credibility and be done with it!

Susan


On 9/7/06, Timothy Powell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rick,
>
> I wasn't advocating a "knee-jerk" reaction. I'm not sure that I am ready
to
> jump on the "outsourcing" bandwagonone way or the other. I have my
> opinion on the subject, but until I know BMC's actual direction, I'll
> withhold it.
>
> I'm just saying...let's all be nice to each other until we know for a fact
> that somebody is "trolling" or whatever their motive, until it's actually
> known. Everybody deserves the benefit of the doubt. You knowinnocent
> until proven guilty. Just because he hasn't posted regularly doesn't mean
> that he's not credible. He may be a CA rep trying to stir the potbut
> then again, he may know what he's talking about.
>
> Claire is a regular postershe has clout on this list. To newbie's,
that
> haven't archived the list postings since...wheneveror might know now
> betterher word might be "golden". So her comments might lean a person
to
> totally disregard Jamahowal's posting, and that's not what we want to do
> (IMHO). We're all intelligent people. We can make informed decisions.
Let's
> not bash each other until we know for a fact that the person is a
> fraud...nut case...or a competitor trying to make us stew about an
unknown.
>
> M2CW,
> Tim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick cook
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:36 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
>
> Ok, everyone, let's calm down a bit.
>
> 1)  Claire's point (IMHO) is not that this guy doesn't have the right to
> post, it's that because he's not one of the regulars, his comments, which
> were both inflammatory and out of left field, aren't deserving of assumed
> credibility.  4 posts over a long period of time isn't enough to get known
> and trusted by a significant number of people.
>
> 2)  Tim is right in that anyone has the right to post information, but
this
> post was almost the equivalent of yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.  I
> don't know the poster's motivation or the accuracy of his claims, and
won't
> comment on them until I do.  I would suggest a similar attitude on the
part
> of my fellow listers - let the original comments stand or fall away based
on
> the evidence (if any) brought to support them.  I for one will not be
> manipulated into a knee-jerk reaction to a drive-by posting.
>
> Rick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:53 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
>
> I found 4 postings from Jamahowalso farCLAIRE.
> Quit being ugly to the guyit defeats the purpose of this listwhich
> is to encourage discussion and active participation from ALL members
> regardless of their past participation history. Everybody here has
something
> to contribute. Just because we all aren't James, Rick or Axton (congrats
to
> all for their win and nomination) doesn't mean we don't have something
> useful or intelligent to sayevery contribution is needed and welcome.
> IMHOif you don't think we all have something to sayUNSUBSCRIBE!
>
>
> Tim
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: Macros for multiple users

2006-09-07 Thread Susan Palmer
**
So to clarify, you have the .arq files copied to everyone's arcmds path on their own computers.  Then they should see them.  Check the path they have in their Tools / Options which should point to that same folder.  When they record a macro do they see it?
I'm not sure if Preferences will make a difference if those are utilized since we don't use them.  Someone else might chime in on that.  Do you used Centralized  Preferences?Susan
On 9/7/06, Hall, Granville V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
**














Thanks Susan,

 

We've been just copying them all to
that folder on each of the computers because it was the default for Remedy.  I
should clarify that they other users are on the local machine.  I'll try
moving it to the network and see if that helps.  It was weird because they were
there and then they disappeared and they only show up for me.

 

Thanks.

 









From: Action Request
System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of 
Susan Palmer
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006
9:23 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Macros for multiple
users



 

** Buddy,


The macros are on YOUR harddrive.  The only way others could get to them
would be for your computer to be shared and the network path to that location
be put in Tools / Options in the path field on the other computers.  

Generally people choose a network location for commonly used macros or they
simply distribute them (via email) to others that may use them and they store
them in the path you have listed below on their own computer.  That's the
default path provided during the client install and you can change it and/or
add an additional path to it. 

Susan






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Granville V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Hey guys,

I have an interesting problem going on.  We are running Remedy User
6.0.3 and I have macros in the C:\Program Files\AR System\HOME\ARCmds,
but they are only showing up for me in the macro bar and not the other 
users of the computer.  Do you have any idea why that would be?

Thanks,

Buddy Hall

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Re: Macros for multiple users

2006-09-07 Thread Hall, Granville V
**








Thanks Susan,

 

We’ve been just copying them all to
that folder on each of the computers because it was the default for Remedy.  I
should clarify that they other users are on the local machine.  I’ll try
moving it to the network and see if that helps.  It was weird because they were
there and then they disappeared and they only show up for me.

 

Thanks.

 









From: Action Request
System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Palmer
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006
9:23 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Macros for multiple
users



 

** Buddy,

The macros are on YOUR harddrive.  The only way others could get to them
would be for your computer to be shared and the network path to that location
be put in Tools / Options in the path field on the other computers.  

Generally people choose a network location for commonly used macros or they
simply distribute them (via email) to others that may use them and they store
them in the path you have listed below on their own computer.  That's the
default path provided during the client install and you can change it and/or
add an additional path to it. 

Susan






On 9/7/06, Hall,
Granville V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Hey guys,

I have an interesting problem going on.  We are running Remedy User
6.0.3 and I have macros in the C:\Program Files\AR System\HOME\ARCmds,
but they are only showing up for me in the macro bar and not the other 
users of the computer.  Do you have any idea why that would be?

Thanks,

Buddy Hall

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Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Susan Palmer
**
Possibly what makes JP's comments a little hard to accept as 'trusted' is because we don't know who he is.  He doesn't say where he works and hasn't in the past either.  What is his connection to Remedy?  Support is a very sensitive topic since we have all had occurrences of good and bad support over time and on behalf of our companies we spend a good deal of money on support.  
JP's post was not much more than a tabloid equivalent story where a 'high ranking official that cannot be named because they are not supposed to be talking' has provided the information.  As a company employee when I submit the invoice for support it feels alot different than when I was a consultant.  I'm saying that there is value to this service I'm requesting them to spend a great deal of money on.  And we don't have to go through all the points of what support covers, I know them.
JP put the post out there and he should be prepared to support the post.  Claire doesn't need to defending and has a right to her opinion also.  So JP, where's the supporting information ... let's give this story some credibility and be done with it!
SusanOn 9/7/06, Timothy Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Rick,I wasn't advocating a "knee-jerk" reaction. I'm not sure that I am ready tojump on the "outsourcing" bandwagonone way or the other. I have myopinion on the subject, but until I know BMC's actual direction, I'll
withhold it.I'm just saying...let's all be nice to each other until we know for a factthat somebody is "trolling" or whatever their motive, until it's actuallyknown. Everybody deserves the benefit of the doubt. You knowinnocent
until proven guilty. Just because he hasn't posted regularly doesn't meanthat he's not credible. He may be a CA rep trying to stir the potbutthen again, he may know what he's talking about.Claire is a regular postershe has clout on this list. To newbie's, that
haven't archived the list postings since...wheneveror might know nowbetterher word might be "golden". So her comments might lean a person tototally disregard Jamahowal's posting, and that's not what we want to do
(IMHO). We're all intelligent people. We can make informed decisions. Let'snot bash each other until we know for a fact that the person is afraud...nut case...or a competitor trying to make us stew about an unknown.
M2CW,Tim-Original Message-From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick cookSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:36 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!Ok, everyone, let's calm down a bit.1)  Claire's point (IMHO) is not that this guy doesn't have the right to
post, it's that because he's not one of the regulars, his comments, whichwere both inflammatory and out of left field, aren't deserving of assumedcredibility.  4 posts over a long period of time isn't enough to get known
and trusted by a significant number of people.2)  Tim is right in that anyone has the right to post information, but thispost was almost the equivalent of yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.  I
don't know the poster's motivation or the accuracy of his claims, and won'tcomment on them until I do.  I would suggest a similar attitude on the partof my fellow listers - let the original comments stand or fall away based on
the evidence (if any) brought to support them.  I for one will not bemanipulated into a knee-jerk reaction to a drive-by posting.Rick-Original Message-From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Timothy PowellSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:53 PMTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
I found 4 postings from Jamahowalso farCLAIRE.Quit being ugly to the guyit defeats the purpose of this listwhichis to encourage discussion and active participation from ALL membersregardless of their past participation history. Everybody here has something
to contribute. Just because we all aren't James, Rick or Axton (congrats toall for their win and nomination) doesn't mean we don't have somethinguseful or intelligent to sayevery contribution is needed and welcome.
IMHOif you don't think we all have something to sayUNSUBSCRIBE!Tim-Original Message-From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)[mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, ClaireSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:14 PMTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
Excuse me... I found one... 7/28/2005 a job available post.-Original Message-From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
] On Behalf Of Jamahowal PinitubelSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:02 PMTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
Claire, contact me offline at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would like 

Re: Macros for multiple users

2006-09-07 Thread Susan Palmer
**
Buddy,The macros are on YOUR harddrive.  The only way others could get to them would be for your computer to be shared and the network path to that location be put in Tools / Options in the path field on the other computers.  
Generally people choose a network location for commonly used macros or they simply distribute them (via email) to others that may use them and they store them in the path you have listed below on their own computer.  That's the default path provided during the client install and you can change it and/or add an additional path to it.
SusanOn 9/7/06, Hall, Granville V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey guys,I have an interesting problem going on.  We are running Remedy User6.0.3 and I have macros in the C:\Program Files\AR System\HOME\ARCmds,but they are only showing up for me in the macro bar and not the other
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Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Timothy Powell
Rick,

I wasn't advocating a "knee-jerk" reaction. I'm not sure that I am ready to
jump on the "outsourcing" bandwagonone way or the other. I have my
opinion on the subject, but until I know BMC's actual direction, I'll
withhold it.

I'm just saying...let's all be nice to each other until we know for a fact
that somebody is "trolling" or whatever their motive, until it's actually
known. Everybody deserves the benefit of the doubt. You knowinnocent
until proven guilty. Just because he hasn't posted regularly doesn't mean
that he's not credible. He may be a CA rep trying to stir the potbut
then again, he may know what he's talking about. 

Claire is a regular postershe has clout on this list. To newbie's, that
haven't archived the list postings since...wheneveror might know now
betterher word might be "golden". So her comments might lean a person to
totally disregard Jamahowal's posting, and that's not what we want to do
(IMHO). We're all intelligent people. We can make informed decisions. Let's
not bash each other until we know for a fact that the person is a
fraud...nut case...or a competitor trying to make us stew about an unknown.

M2CW,
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick cook
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:36 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

Ok, everyone, let's calm down a bit.

1)  Claire's point (IMHO) is not that this guy doesn't have the right to
post, it's that because he's not one of the regulars, his comments, which
were both inflammatory and out of left field, aren't deserving of assumed
credibility.  4 posts over a long period of time isn't enough to get known
and trusted by a significant number of people.

2)  Tim is right in that anyone has the right to post information, but this
post was almost the equivalent of yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.  I
don't know the poster's motivation or the accuracy of his claims, and won't
comment on them until I do.  I would suggest a similar attitude on the part
of my fellow listers - let the original comments stand or fall away based on
the evidence (if any) brought to support them.  I for one will not be
manipulated into a knee-jerk reaction to a drive-by posting.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:53 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

I found 4 postings from Jamahowalso farCLAIRE.
Quit being ugly to the guyit defeats the purpose of this listwhich
is to encourage discussion and active participation from ALL members
regardless of their past participation history. Everybody here has something
to contribute. Just because we all aren't James, Rick or Axton (congrats to
all for their win and nomination) doesn't mean we don't have something
useful or intelligent to sayevery contribution is needed and welcome.
IMHOif you don't think we all have something to sayUNSUBSCRIBE!


Tim
 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:14 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

Excuse me... I found one... 7/28/2005 a job available post. 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamahowal Pinitubel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:02 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

Claire, contact me offline at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would like to

validate my authenticity. You have OBVIOUSLY missed my prior posts. You
should back up your statements with facts before you make them.

JP



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!


**
That post almost seems like a "troll".  I have never seen a post from
"Jamahowal Pinitubel " before.

We have been receiving support from India for months!





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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!


**
Well

That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's true).  
I wouldn't freak just yet.

Warren


On 9/7/06, Jamahowal Pinitubel <[EMAIL P

Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Kirk Cassady
Although I rarely call support, my last 3 calls were fielded in India.

I have no problem with that as long as I get good support.

The problem is each time they couldn't answer the questions and it took an 
engineer from the USA to provide the expected support.

Support costs too much to make us go through a "filtering" system that just 
causes delays.

So therefore I only call support when I have exhausted all other sources...even 
though we're paying big bucks for it.

Big thumbs up for ARLIST!

We should feel that we can easily call support when needed instead of avoiding 
it.

Kirk


- Original Message -
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Thu Sep 07 19:04:18 2006
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

I truly doubt that any savings BMC will have with offshoring will be passed
on to the customer.

 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick cook
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 6:18 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

Well, to take the BMC view for a minute (assuming this is true), all of the
comparisons of ITSM products I have seen grade the product suite very highly
except for one thing - cost.  If they're planning on passing on some cost
savings (should any actually be realized) to the customers, this could help
expand the product line by making a superior product at a competitive price.

Rick

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke, Brian
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:11 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

I've heard rumblings about this as well.  I don't expect a complete
offshoring, but a substantial chunk nonetheless. It does concern me as it is
a potentially major shift.

My apprehensions can be summarized as:
1.) Language / Communication / Cultural Barriers
2.) Diminished ability for the support tech to quickly get a feel for how
advanced a caller is and adjust support tactics / pace accordingly
3.) Experience with other offshore support tells me they tend to have very
slow, rigid, scripted support methods that are of little use to advanced
callers.
4.) Severe loss of support staff experience with the supported products

I have no problem with BMC saving a dime so long as the customer experience
is maintained.  I can't imagine how a move like this _could_ do anything but
hurt the customer experience in the short term.  How it is in the long term
really depends on the quality of the support people as perceived by the
customers.

So as always, if you don't like something - be vocal, complain, escalate,
and use the leverage you have.
A.) The discontinuation or downgrade of your support contract
B.) Withholding of new purchases, letting the sales staff & mgmt know why.
C.) Consider the options of using other products (again, include BMC in on
the thought process) These should send messages back up to BMC Mgmt
throughout the support _and_ sales organizations.

Another motivation for BMC may be that another common complaint about BMC is
that Maintenance costs are high - so they must reduce costs to reduce the
maintenance costs.  If they don't pass the savings on, that's more leverage
for use in negotiations (reduced quality without reduced price??? Wtf?).


My 2 cents,
-Brian Luke





-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamahowal Pinitubel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:44 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
Importance: High

Hello community,

I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be
starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very
shortly.

Am I the only one who is outraged by this?

Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy
Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company
will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be
diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees
will not be discounted.

So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but
they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our
maintenance contract before I was told of this!).

In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR
System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure.
If BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and
outsourcing it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of
Remedy professionals next to the engineers themselves.

What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO
IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR 

Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Rick cook
Ok, everyone, let's calm down a bit.

1)  Claire's point (IMHO) is not that this guy doesn't have the right to
post, it's that because he's not one of the regulars, his comments, which
were both inflammatory and out of left field, aren't deserving of assumed
credibility.  4 posts over a long period of time isn't enough to get known
and trusted by a significant number of people.

2)  Tim is right in that anyone has the right to post information, but this
post was almost the equivalent of yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.  I
don't know the poster's motivation or the accuracy of his claims, and won't
comment on them until I do.  I would suggest a similar attitude on the part
of my fellow listers - let the original comments stand or fall away based on
the evidence (if any) brought to support them.  I for one will not be
manipulated into a knee-jerk reaction to a drive-by posting.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:53 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

I found 4 postings from Jamahowalso farCLAIRE.
Quit being ugly to the guyit defeats the purpose of this listwhich
is to encourage discussion and active participation from ALL members
regardless of their past participation history. Everybody here has something
to contribute. Just because we all aren't James, Rick or Axton (congrats to
all for their win and nomination) doesn't mean we don't have something
useful or intelligent to sayevery contribution is needed and welcome.
IMHOif you don't think we all have something to sayUNSUBSCRIBE!


Tim
 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:14 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

Excuse me... I found one... 7/28/2005 a job available post. 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamahowal Pinitubel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:02 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

Claire, contact me offline at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would like to

validate my authenticity. You have OBVIOUSLY missed my prior posts. You
should back up your statements with facts before you make them.

JP



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!


**
That post almost seems like a "troll".  I have never seen a post from
"Jamahowal Pinitubel " before.

We have been receiving support from India for months!





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!


**
Well

That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's
true).  
I wouldn't freak just yet.

Warren


On 9/7/06, Jamahowal Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello community,

I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they
will be
starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland
very
shortly.

Am I the only one who is outraged by this?

Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy
Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company
will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be
diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance
fees
will not be discounted.

So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support
but
they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our
maintenance contract before I was told of this!).

In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR
System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure.
If
BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and
outsourcing
it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy
professionals next to the engineers themselves.

What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO
IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy
support infrastructure.

I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him
regarding
this direction.

If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product,
which
is critical to us in o

Macros for multiple users

2006-09-07 Thread Hall, Granville V
Hey guys,

I have an interesting problem going on.  We are running Remedy User
6.0.3 and I have macros in the C:\Program Files\AR System\HOME\ARCmds,
but they are only showing up for me in the macro bar and not the other
users of the computer.  Do you have any idea why that would be?

Thanks,

Buddy Hall

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Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread michael campbell
I concur with Tim, we have to keep this an 'open forum' or we all lose. mike

> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:53:09 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 
> OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!> To: 
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> > I found 4 postings from Jamahowalso 
> farCLAIRE.> Quit being ugly to the guyit defeats the purpose of this 
> listwhich> is to encourage discussion and active participation from ALL 
> members> regardless of their past participation history. Everybody here has 
> something> to contribute. Just because we all aren't James, Rick or Axton 
> (congrats to> all for their win and nomination) doesn't mean we don't have 
> something> useful or intelligent to sayevery contribution is needed and 
> welcome.> IMHOif you don't think we all have something to 
> sayUNSUBSCRIBE!> > > Tim>  > > -Original Message-> From: Action 
> Request System discussion list(ARSList)> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Sanford, Claire> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:14 PM> To: 
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing 
> Support!!> > Excuse me... I found one... 7/28/2005 a job available post. > > 
> -Original Message-> From: Action Request System discussion 
> list(ARSList)> [mail
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Re: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Timothy Powell
I found 4 postings from Jamahowalso farCLAIRE.
Quit being ugly to the guyit defeats the purpose of this listwhich
is to encourage discussion and active participation from ALL members
regardless of their past participation history. Everybody here has something
to contribute. Just because we all aren't James, Rick or Axton (congrats to
all for their win and nomination) doesn't mean we don't have something
useful or intelligent to sayevery contribution is needed and welcome.
IMHOif you don't think we all have something to sayUNSUBSCRIBE!


Tim
 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:14 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

Excuse me... I found one... 7/28/2005 a job available post. 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamahowal Pinitubel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:02 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

Claire, contact me offline at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would like to

validate my authenticity. You have OBVIOUSLY missed my prior posts. You
should back up your statements with facts before you make them.

JP



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!


**
That post almost seems like a "troll".  I have never seen a post from 
"Jamahowal Pinitubel " before.

We have been receiving support from India for months!





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!


**
Well

That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's
true).  
I wouldn't freak just yet.

Warren


On 9/7/06, Jamahowal Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello community,

I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they
will be
starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland
very
shortly.

Am I the only one who is outraged by this?

Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy
Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company
will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be
diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance
fees
will not be discounted.

So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support
but
they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our
maintenance contract before I was told of this!).

In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR
System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure.
If
BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and
outsourcing
it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy
professionals next to the engineers themselves.

What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO
IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy
support infrastructure.

I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him
regarding
this direction.

If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product,
which
is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to
seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where
they have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not
underpayed
call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no
context
of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with
the
Remedy software engineering community.

As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am
insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback
on
this initiative.

What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)

What can we do to get BMC to keep their existing support infrastructure
and
stop them from farming out their support to people who can not even
speak
clear American English?

JP

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Re: Integrating Remedy with Outlook

2006-09-07 Thread Rodney Harris
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Hi Dan,

 

But can I not run one instance of Outlook
and connect it to several user’s mailboxes? If the program could support
this feature it would be a significant enhancement. Just because it is built as
a client side add in doesn’t mean it can’t be run on a server and
used to sync lots of users simultaneously. We are talking of around 30 users at
the moment. Have you considered this application?

 

I look forward to getting my hands on the
multi–source version. I like the fact that this solution is Remedy
specific and can connect directly to Remedy and handle dates properly etc. 

 

Rod

 









From:
Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Hardy
Sent: Friday, 8 September 2006
3:54 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Integrating Remedy
with Outlook



 

 

You won’t be able
to keep a whole group of users in sync without running one instance of the
Outlook client each, logged in as each user.  (It sounds like perhaps you
are hoping for server-side synchronization).  This project is built as a
client-side Outlook COM add-in, so runs as a specific user as part of their
Outlook client.

 

However…if you
configure the XML file on each client, you can include any number of Remedy
servers and forms, and each can include the authentication information.
 The users won’t be prompted for anything at all.

 

I’ll let you know
when the update is posted; I’ll try to get to it soon.

 

Dan

 









From:
Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]
On Behalf Of Rodney Harris
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006
3:36 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Integrating Remedy
with Outlook



 

Hi Dan,

 

Had a quick look at your program and I
like it. I wouldn’t mind taking a look at the multiple data sources
version as this will allow us to run Outlook on the server and keep a whole
group of users in sync without any config on their end. We were intending to
start with calendar sync anyway so the lack of contacts is something we can add
later.  A config file for the multi data source version might be the way
to go too as I wouldn’t want to be typing heaps of stuff in each time
Outlook started.

 

Yes – I like the fact that it is
free. Perhaps I can contribute to the project in return.

 

Good stuff!!

 

Rod

 

CMS Asset Solutions

Level 10, 23-25
  O’Connell Street

Sydney Australia

 

 

 









From:
Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]
On Behalf Of Dan Hardy
Sent: Thursday, 7 September 2006
4:06 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Integrating Remedy
with Outlook



 





 





You might look at:





 





http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/roi





 





It doesn't do anything with contacts...but it synchronizes
tasks and/or calendar.  And it's free.  And open source.  And
free.  And you could easily tweak it do contacts as well (provided you
know a little C++/STL/ATL and are able to muck about with Outlooks' API).





 





I have an update coded locally that allows you to
synchronize multiple data sources (any number of source for tasks and/or
calendar).  It currently lacks a fancy UI for configuration of multiple
sources, but takes a straightforward XML config file.  If there is
interestI'll get around to checking it in and putting a new build up for
download.





 





Did I mention it's free?





 





Dan







 







From: Action
Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Rodney Harris
Sent: Wed 9/6/2006 7:24 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Integrating Remedy with
Outlook





** 

Hi All,

 

I’m looking at using a product called Genius Connect
(or similar) to link our custom Remedy V7 CRM system to Outlook. The functionality
we require is the ability for our sales force to use Outlook as their contact
list, calendar and task list while retaining compatibility with our CRM. Has
anyone done anything like this? 

 

This is how I’m planning to do it.

 

1. When the user has an internet connection, Outlook
synchronises with the Exchange server via HTTP or straight IP. The users use
the offline cache feature of Outlook to retain access to their data when not
connected.

2. A server runs Outlook with Genius connect installed and
connects to each mailbox that we want synchronised. Periodically Genius Connect
synchronises the Outlook mailboxes with an SQL database on the same server as
our Remedy database via ODBC. 

3. The Remedy server runs escalations that read and write to
the intermediate SQL server tables. The intermediate tables allow for date
conversions and allow Remedy to retain full control of its database. Remedy can
read from the SQL tables via View Forms and write to them via direct SQL.

 

Is there a better way than this to do what we want? Has
anyone done anything similar and would they share their experiences with me? 

 

Thanks,

 

Rod Harris

CMS Asset Solutions

Level 10, 23-25
  O’Connell Street

Sydn

Default form used when double-clicking in results list

2006-09-07 Thread Charles Stoddard
**








Sorry for a newbie question, but I can’t seem to find
an answer to this one.

 

Here’s our current configuration:

AR6.3 p014 on a Windows 2003 server

Using ITSM 6 Help Desk

 

We’ve got 3-4 different views of the Help Desk form
that various groups are using.  We have it set so that the groups can open
their respective view.  However, the issue comes when they search for records
and then double-click on a record.  When they do that, it opens into the default
view rather than their customized form.  I realize that the view below is the
correct view, but is there any way to control what form is called when you double-click
on a search result like that, or is there a way to disable that capability?

 

Thanks,

Charles






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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Tyrone Dee
I truly doubt that any savings BMC will have with offshoring will be passed
on to the customer.

 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick cook
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 6:18 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

Well, to take the BMC view for a minute (assuming this is true), all of the
comparisons of ITSM products I have seen grade the product suite very highly
except for one thing - cost.  If they're planning on passing on some cost
savings (should any actually be realized) to the customers, this could help
expand the product line by making a superior product at a competitive price.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke, Brian
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:11 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

I've heard rumblings about this as well.  I don't expect a complete
offshoring, but a substantial chunk nonetheless. It does concern me as it is
a potentially major shift.

My apprehensions can be summarized as:
1.) Language / Communication / Cultural Barriers
2.) Diminished ability for the support tech to quickly get a feel for how
advanced a caller is and adjust support tactics / pace accordingly
3.) Experience with other offshore support tells me they tend to have very
slow, rigid, scripted support methods that are of little use to advanced
callers.
4.) Severe loss of support staff experience with the supported products

I have no problem with BMC saving a dime so long as the customer experience
is maintained.  I can't imagine how a move like this _could_ do anything but
hurt the customer experience in the short term.  How it is in the long term
really depends on the quality of the support people as perceived by the
customers.

So as always, if you don't like something - be vocal, complain, escalate,
and use the leverage you have.
A.) The discontinuation or downgrade of your support contract
B.) Withholding of new purchases, letting the sales staff & mgmt know why.
C.) Consider the options of using other products (again, include BMC in on
the thought process) These should send messages back up to BMC Mgmt
throughout the support _and_ sales organizations.

Another motivation for BMC may be that another common complaint about BMC is
that Maintenance costs are high - so they must reduce costs to reduce the
maintenance costs.  If they don't pass the savings on, that's more leverage
for use in negotiations (reduced quality without reduced price??? Wtf?).


My 2 cents,
-Brian Luke





-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamahowal Pinitubel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:44 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
Importance: High

Hello community,

I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be
starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very
shortly.

Am I the only one who is outraged by this?

Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy
Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company
will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be
diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees
will not be discounted.

So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but
they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our
maintenance contract before I was told of this!).

In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR
System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure.
If BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and
outsourcing it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of
Remedy professionals next to the engineers themselves.

What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO
IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy
support infrastructure.

I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regarding
this direction.

If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, which
is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to
seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where
they have on-site American/English speaking professionals
- not underpayed call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no
understanding and no context of the platform, and no relationships &
restricted escalation paths with the Remedy software engineering community.

As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am
insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback on
this initiat

Re: Webservices question

2006-09-07 Thread Herb Partlow
**


**









Thanks Fred… I guess my next
question would be, does anyone have an

example of XML that makes use of Search menu they could share.

I want to keep this form as much data
driven as possible. 

 



Herb 



 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System
discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 2:38 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re:
Webservices question

 

Depends on the
Menu.   Selection Lists, Radio Buttons, and Check Boxes have the data
in the WSDL.  Character and Search Menus do not unless you do your own XML
Schema.

 

Fred

 







From: Action
Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb Partlow
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:25 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Webservices question

** 

 Good Afternoon Everyone 

 


Quick question on web services 


   


   
When I create a web service for a form that contains drop down menus. 

   
Will these drop down menu be available when someone writes a webpage
(html/java) to 

   
consume this web service?

 


Thanks


Herb



 





 








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Re: Install of 7.0

2006-09-07 Thread McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Title: RE: Install of 7.0
**





Pam:
 
My apologies to you and the list.  I just reread your post about not being able to log in.  Yes, Linux has the portmapper application and rpcinfo, as well as a third command: netstat. 

 
If you run the program you should see the following
 
390600 1  tcp 
followed by several more lines (this should be a long list actually).
 
You can also run the netstat -an command and pipe it through more (or less if you prefer) and look for the TCP and UDP ports.

 
If all looks fine, then you should be able to use arrecache and feed it the information for the Demo user.  However, I suspect that all is not well with your server and either the ARS server is not fully up or something else is wrong.

 
Please advise the results of the above two commands.
 
James McKenzie
 





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pam Hollis
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:09 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Install of 7.0



** ** 


Yes it is registered with portmatpper.


 


Pam Hollis


Senior Programmer - Remedy


Tractor Supply Company


(615 )366-4617 (telephone)


(615) 277-4617 (fax)


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3

Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:03 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Install of 7.0


 


Pam: 


Is your server registered with portmapper functionality? If not, I think there is a parameter that allows you to pass the TCP port used by ARS.

James Mckenzie 
  


-Original Message- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pam Hollis 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:59 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: Install of 7.0 


This will not work at this time - I am actually getting a RPC bind failure message. 


Pam Hollis 
Senior Programmer - Remedy 
Tractor Supply Company 
(615 )366-4617 (telephone) 
(615) 277-4617 (fax) 


-Original Message- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Luke, Brian 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:07 PM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: Install of 7.0 


Find where arcache is located and run: 


arcache -Ua -e001 -lw 1 -nDemo -pDemo -s`hostname` -g1; -d 


This should allow you to log in as Demo/Demo. 


Once you log in go directly to the User form and fix the Demo account the way you want it.  When you save it the server will recache with the credentials you entered and Demo/Demo will become immediately invalid (if you changed it).

-Brian Luke 


-Original Message- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pam Hollis 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 1:30 PM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Install of 7.0 


I have began the process of installing ARSystem 7.0.  This is a fresh install on a new box.  Linux - Oracle 10g 


Everything installed cleaned and successfully - I have bounced the server and everything is up and running.  But, I am unable to login to the User Tool as Demo.

Any suggestions. 


 
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Re: Install of 7.0

2006-09-07 Thread McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Title: RE: Install of 7.0
**





Pam:
 
It appears that something is not right with your server.  Which OS are you running on?  If it is Unix/Linux, you should be able to run rpcinfo -p and see the 3906xx RPC processes linked into a TCP port.  If you are running Windows, I know that a version of this program exists to give the same information, and you can use Google to find it.

Basically, it appears that your ARS server is not connecting to portmapper.
 
James Mckenzie
L-3 GSI
 





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pam Hollis
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:09 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Install of 7.0



** ** 


Yes it is registered with portmatpper.


 


Pam Hollis


Senior Programmer - Remedy


Tractor Supply Company


(615 )366-4617 (telephone)


(615) 277-4617 (fax)


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3

Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:03 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Install of 7.0


 


Pam: 


Is your server registered with portmapper functionality? If not, I think there is a parameter that allows you to pass the TCP port used by ARS.

James Mckenzie 
  


-Original Message- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pam Hollis 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:59 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: Install of 7.0 


This will not work at this time - I am actually getting a RPC bind failure message. 


Pam Hollis 
Senior Programmer - Remedy 
Tractor Supply Company 
(615 )366-4617 (telephone) 
(615) 277-4617 (fax) 


-Original Message- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Luke, Brian 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:07 PM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: Install of 7.0 


Find where arcache is located and run: 


arcache -Ua -e001 -lw 1 -nDemo -pDemo -s`hostname` -g1; -d 


This should allow you to log in as Demo/Demo. 


Once you log in go directly to the User form and fix the Demo account the way you want it.  When you save it the server will recache with the credentials you entered and Demo/Demo will become immediately invalid (if you changed it).

-Brian Luke 


-Original Message- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pam Hollis 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 1:30 PM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Install of 7.0 


I have began the process of installing ARSystem 7.0.  This is a fresh install on a new box.  Linux - Oracle 10g 


Everything installed cleaned and successfully - I have bounced the server and everything is up and running.  But, I am unable to login to the User Tool as Demo.

Any suggestions. 




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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Rick cook
Well, to take the BMC view for a minute (assuming this is true), all of the
comparisons of ITSM products I have seen grade the product suite very highly
except for one thing - cost.  If they're planning on passing on some cost
savings (should any actually be realized) to the customers, this could help
expand the product line by making a superior product at a competitive price.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke, Brian
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:11 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

I've heard rumblings about this as well.  I don't expect a complete
offshoring, but a substantial chunk nonetheless. It does concern me as it is
a potentially major shift.

My apprehensions can be summarized as:
1.) Language / Communication / Cultural Barriers
2.) Diminished ability for the support tech to quickly get a feel for how
advanced a caller is and adjust support tactics / pace accordingly
3.) Experience with other offshore support tells me they tend to have very
slow, rigid, scripted support methods that are of little use to advanced
callers.
4.) Severe loss of support staff experience with the supported products

I have no problem with BMC saving a dime so long as the customer experience
is maintained.  I can't imagine how a move like this _could_ do anything but
hurt the customer experience in the short term.  How it is in the long term
really depends on the quality of the support people as perceived by the
customers.

So as always, if you don't like something - be vocal, complain, escalate,
and use the leverage you have.
A.) The discontinuation or downgrade of your support contract
B.) Withholding of new purchases, letting the sales staff & mgmt know why.
C.) Consider the options of using other products (again, include BMC in on
the thought process) These should send messages back up to BMC Mgmt
throughout the support _and_ sales organizations.

Another motivation for BMC may be that another common complaint about BMC is
that Maintenance costs are high - so they must reduce costs to reduce the
maintenance costs.  If they don't pass the savings on, that's more leverage
for use in negotiations (reduced quality without reduced price??? Wtf?).


My 2 cents,
-Brian Luke





-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamahowal Pinitubel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:44 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
Importance: High

Hello community,

I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be
starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very
shortly.

Am I the only one who is outraged by this?

Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy
Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company
will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be
diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees
will not be discounted.

So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but
they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our
maintenance contract before I was told of this!).

In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR
System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure.
If BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and
outsourcing it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of
Remedy professionals next to the engineers themselves.

What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO
IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy
support infrastructure.

I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regarding
this direction.

If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, which
is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to
seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where
they have on-site American/English speaking professionals
- not underpayed call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no
understanding and no context of the platform, and no relationships &
restricted escalation paths with the Remedy software engineering community.

As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am
insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback on
this initiative.

What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)

What can we do to get BMC to keep their existing support infrastructure and
stop them from farming out their support to people who can not even speak
clear American English?

JP

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Re: Product/Operational Categorizations in ITSM7

2006-09-07 Thread Chris Rom
We are struggling with this as well, going from a custom helpdesk app with 
4 levels of categorization to the new ITSM 7 with 3 OpCat + 3 ProdCat.

Here is BMCs emplanation from the ITSM Config manual:

Operational categories list all the operational services that a typical
help desk provides, such as add user account, and change server password. It
can also contain items that represent symptoms of incidents or problems,
such as application failure and network failure.

Products can be any items used by an organization and are usually IT-
related. Products are typically used to classify a configuration item, an 
incident, a problem, or a change request.
The Product Categorization structure is defined as Tier 1 > Tier 2 > Tier 3 
> Product Name and Manufacturer > Model Version, which is used to 
categorize different products or configuration items in BMC Atrium CMDB


Interestingly, if you loaded the DSL data, you will see that BMC added 
Product Categories, especially for software, just to have 3 tiers.

Does Software -> Applications -> Third Party -> Microsoft Excel make any 
sense ? Tier 1 and 2 are redundant, however, all three are required.

I found that you could add '- None -' in Tier 3, which came in handy for 
hardware, where you would want to have more details for items that can 
break.

Ex: Hardware -> Laptop -> - None -
Hardware -> Laptop -> Battery

Now, when you create these, you also MUST select a 'CI Type' such 
as 'Computer System' or a system component.

I am still trying to figure out how to relate this now to Product Name and 
Manufacturer. Each computer system should have a Product Name and 
Manufacturer but that is not necessairly true for system components.

BTW: Has anyone tried to import this kind of data ? Good luck. You 
basically have to import into one form, then export again to get the 
automatically created IDs, then import into another form to create the 
relationships. I have seen the same thing with the site/location as well.

Unfortunately, there is no documentation on any of this and it is pretty 
much trial and error, once you figure out which forms you need to import to.

[stepping down from soapbox and catching my breath]

You will also need to decide if you want these CTIs across all modules 
(Incident, Problem, Change, Request, etc).

Next step is to understand the relationship between CTIs and the CMDB/DSL 
better.

Rgds,

Chris

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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Luke, Brian
I've heard rumblings about this as well.  I don't expect a complete
offshoring, but a substantial chunk nonetheless. It does concern me as
it is a potentially major shift.

My apprehensions can be summarized as:
1.) Language / Communication / Cultural Barriers
2.) Diminished ability for the support tech to quickly get a feel for
how advanced a caller is and adjust support tactics / pace accordingly
3.) Experience with other offshore support tells me they tend to have
very slow, rigid, scripted support methods that are of little use to
advanced callers.
4.) Severe loss of support staff experience with the supported products

I have no problem with BMC saving a dime so long as the customer
experience is maintained.  I can't imagine how a move like this _could_
do anything but hurt the customer experience in the short term.  How it
is in the long term really depends on the quality of the support people
as perceived by the customers.

So as always, if you don't like something - be vocal, complain,
escalate, and use the leverage you have.
A.) The discontinuation or downgrade of your support contract
B.) Withholding of new purchases, letting the sales staff & mgmt know
why.
C.) Consider the options of using other products (again, include BMC in
on the thought process)
These should send messages back up to BMC Mgmt throughout the support
_and_ sales organizations.

Another motivation for BMC may be that another common complaint about
BMC is that Maintenance costs are high - so they must reduce costs to
reduce the maintenance costs.  If they don't pass the savings on, that's
more leverage for use in negotiations (reduced quality without reduced
price??? Wtf?).


My 2 cents,
-Brian Luke





-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamahowal Pinitubel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:44 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
Importance: High

Hello community,

I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they
will be starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin,
Ireland very shortly.

Am I the only one who is outraged by this?

Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy
Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company
will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be
diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance
fees will not be discounted.

So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support
but they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our
maintenance contract before I was told of this!).

In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR
System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure.
If BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and
outsourcing it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable
pool of Remedy professionals next to the engineers themselves.

What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO
IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy
support infrastructure.

I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him
regarding this direction.

If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product,
which is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are
going to seriously consider moving to another development platform
entirely where they have on-site American/English speaking professionals
- not underpayed call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no
understanding and no context of the platform, and no relationships &
restricted escalation paths with the Remedy software engineering
community.

As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am
insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback
on this initiative.

What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)

What can we do to get BMC to keep their existing support infrastructure
and stop them from farming out their support to people who can not even
speak clear American English?

JP

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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Rick cook
**



Can you say "trial balloon"?  I don't know who 
Jamahowal is, and I doubt anyone else here does, either, so this could be 
nothing but so much hot air.  Besides, Remedy has had outsourced 
engineering for years - has anyone noticed?
 
Rick

From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren 
BaltimoreSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:48 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is 
Outsourcing Support!!
** 
Well
 
That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's 
true).  I wouldn't freak just yet.
 
Warren 
On 9/7/06, Jamahowal 
Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Hello 
  community,I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC 
  that they will bestarting to outsource their support to Pune, India and 
  Dublin, Ireland very shortly.Am I the only one who is outraged by 
  this?Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for 
  RemedySupport. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our 
  companywill stop paying for support altogether next year because they will 
  be diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance 
  feeswill not be discounted.So THEY will be saving a ton of money 
  by giving us compromised support butthey will not be compensating us in 
  any way (and we just renewed our maintenance contract before I was told of 
  this!).In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the 
  actual ARSystem platform from Remedy is their support teams and 
  infrastructure. IfBMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure 
  up and outsourcing it, then thay are going to lose the second most 
  valuable pool of Remedyprofessionals next to the engineers 
  themselves.What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously 
  boneheads who have NOIDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product 
  line and the Remedy support infrastructure.I have emailed Bob 
  Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regardingthis 
  direction.If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for 
  this product, whichis critical to us in our rapid development environment, 
  we are going to seriously consider moving to another development platform 
  entirely wherethey have on-site American/English speaking professionals - 
  not underpayedcall centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no 
  understanding and no context of the platform, and no relationships & 
  restricted escalation paths with theRemedy software engineering 
  community.As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this 
  move and I aminsulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they 
  solicited feedback on this initiative.What does everyone else 
  think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)What can we do to get BMC to 
  keep their existing support infrastructure andstop them from farming out 
  their support to people who can not even speak clear American 
  English?JP_Deck 
  to dock: outfit your cottage in stylish comfort. Check out Sympatico /MSN 
  Shopping for great Cottage Living ideas. http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/category/shp/?bCatID=11,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=081801___ 
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IT Services School of MedicineUniversity of WashingtonBox 
3582201325 Fourth Ave, Suite 2000Seattle, WA 98101The opinions 
expressed in this e-mail are in no way those of the University of Washington, or 
the State of Washington.  They are my own. 
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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Title: RE: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
**





Warren:
 
"Hold onto your hats boys, the wind is sure goona be blowing."
 
My experiences with 'off-shore' technical support range from the best to the worst.  Same with U.S. support.  It all depends on the level of training (some companies train with live customers, some don't) and experience of the person taking the call.  I had a help desk tech on the phone from Bangalore who had a MS/MIS, MCSE and knew the answer to my problem.  He could not give it to me because of policy

 
Anyway, I expect BMC support to be as high as it ever has been.  I doubt that BMC would put 'bottom line' before customer as they realize there are others out there waiting for disenchanted former BMC customers.

 
James McKenzie
 





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 2:15 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!



** 
And that's why I said I wasn't sure I buy into it.
 
I just don't want everyone to get there shorts all bunged up just yet.  This is a Rumor folks.  Not the first time we have heard this kind of rumor either!  Not saying it won't happen, not saying if it does it will be a bad thing or a good thing.  Just saying "let's see what happens". 

 
Warren


 
On 9/7/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


    ** 


    Warren: 
      
    Not to expand on this but note my reply to Claire.  
      
    And there are books and articles on the reverse.  Dell decided to shutdown the Austin, Texas call center. A very large customer called in to a high level executive advising them that that company was cancelling their present order and would not buy anymore Dell products.  In about three weeks, there were ads in the papers advising that the call center was reopening and that former Dell employees would be rehired without any loss of time (as if they were not laid off in the first place.)  

    
    James McKenzie 
      


     


        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore 

    
    Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:56 PM 
    
    To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
    Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!! 


    
    ** 


    
    Keynote Speaker - Geoffrey Moore , Managing Director, TCG Advisors and Author of Crossing the Chasm 
      
    He talked about how Outsourcing is not neccesarily a bad thing.  It allows the organization to refocus on new tasks by retasking those who were doing support.  I'm not sure I buy into all of it.  And this is not a very good explanation of an hour long talk.  Anybody else care to explain mr. Moore's ideas? 

        
    Warren 


        
    On 9/7/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 


            ** 


        Warren: 
      
        Details for those of us not able to go to BUW? 
      
        James McKenzie 


         


            From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore 

                Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:48 PM 
    
        To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG < mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG  > 
    
        Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!! 


        
    


        ** 


        
        Well 
      
        That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's true).  I wouldn't freak just yet. 
      
        Warren 


        
        On 9/7/06, Jamahowal Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


                Hello community, 
        
        I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be 
        starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very 
        shortly. 
        
        Am I the only one who is outraged by this? 
        
        Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy 
        Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company 
        will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be 
        diminishing the value of this support drastically but our mainte

Re: Webservices question

2006-09-07 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
**



Depends on the Menu.   Selection Lists, Radio 
Buttons, and Check Boxes have the data in the WSDL.  Character and Search 
Menus do not unless you do your own XML Schema.
 
Fred


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb 
PartlowSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:25 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Webservices question
** 






 Good Afternoon Everyone 

 
 
Quick question on web services  

    

    
When I create a web service for a form that contains 
drop down menus. 
    
Will these drop down menu be available when someone writes a webpage 
(html/java) to 
    
consume this web 
service?
 
 
Thanks
 
Herb
 
 
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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Timothy Powell
**



Claire,
There have been over 11,000 postings to the ARSList so far this 
year. Do you remember the name of each submitter?
I have archived every posting since 2003. There are several from 
Jamahowal.
 
Tim


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford, 
ClaireSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:55 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is 
Outsourcing Support!!
** 

That post almost seems like a "troll".  I have never seen a post 
from "Jamahowal Pinitubel " 
before.
 
We have been receiving support from India for 
months!


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren 
BaltimoreSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:48 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is 
Outsourcing Support!!
** 
Well
 
That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's 
true).  I wouldn't freak just yet.
 
Warren 
On 9/7/06, Jamahowal 
Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Hello 
  community,I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC 
  that they will bestarting to outsource their support to Pune, India and 
  Dublin, Ireland very shortly.Am I the only one who is outraged by 
  this?Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for 
  RemedySupport. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our 
  companywill stop paying for support altogether next year because they will 
  be diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance 
  feeswill not be discounted.So THEY will be saving a ton of money 
  by giving us compromised support butthey will not be compensating us in 
  any way (and we just renewed our maintenance contract before I was told of 
  this!).In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the 
  actual ARSystem platform from Remedy is their support teams and 
  infrastructure. IfBMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure 
  up and outsourcing it, then thay are going to lose the second most 
  valuable pool of Remedyprofessionals next to the engineers 
  themselves.What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously 
  boneheads who have NOIDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product 
  line and the Remedy support infrastructure.I have emailed Bob 
  Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regardingthis 
  direction.If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for 
  this product, whichis critical to us in our rapid development environment, 
  we are going to seriously consider moving to another development platform 
  entirely wherethey have on-site American/English speaking professionals - 
  not underpayedcall centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no 
  understanding and no context of the platform, and no relationships & 
  restricted escalation paths with theRemedy software engineering 
  community.As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this 
  move and I aminsulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they 
  solicited feedback on this initiative.What does everyone else 
  think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)What can we do to get BMC to 
  keep their existing support infrastructure andstop them from farming out 
  their support to people who can not even speak clear American 
  English?JP_Deck 
  to dock: outfit your cottage in stylish comfort. Check out Sympatico /MSN 
  Shopping for great Cottage Living ideas. http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/category/shp/?bCatID=11,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=081801___ 
  UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.wwrug.org-- Warren R. Baltimore IIRemedy DeveloperUW Medicine 
IT Services School of MedicineUniversity of WashingtonBox 
3582201325 Fourth Ave, Suite 2000Seattle, WA 98101The opinions 
expressed in this e-mail are in no way those of the University of Washington, or 
the State of Washington.  They are my own. 
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Webservices question

2006-09-07 Thread Herb Partlow
**








 Good Afternoon Everyone 

 

 Quick question on web services  

    

    When I create a
web service for a form that contains drop down menus. 

    Will these drop down menu be
available when someone writes a webpage (html/java) to 

    consume
this web service?

 

 Thanks

 Herb






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OT (was I Am Outraged!): UserWorld Darwin Presentation

2006-09-07 Thread Don McClure
**


Anyone interested in Dr. Moore's ideas should check out two websites (found quickly via Google):
www.tcg-advisors.com   (Dr. Moore's consulting company)
www.dealingwithdarwin.com (Dr. Moore's website concerning the book of the same title)
 
His talk was very intriguing.  And yes, Geoffrey Moore holds a doctorate from U of Washington,
in English literature (again, according to his website).
 
HTH & regards,
 
dwm
 
 
Don W. McClure, P.E.Systems EngineerUniversity of North Texasdwmac_at_unt.edu>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07-Sep-06 3:56 PM >>>** 
Keynote Speaker - Geoffrey Moore , Managing Director, TCG Advisors and Author of Crossing the Chasm
 
He talked about how Outsourcing is not neccesarily a bad thing.  It allows the organization to refocus on new tasks by retasking those who were doing support.  I'm not sure I buy into all of it.  And this is not a very good explanation of an hour long talk.  Anybody else care to explain mr. Moore's ideas? 
 
Warren 
On 9/7/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

** 

Warren:   Details for those of us not able to go to BUW?   James McKenzie 
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:48 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!! 
** 
Well   That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's true).  I wouldn't freak just yet.   Warren 



 On 9/7/06, Jamahowal Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
    Hello community,         I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be     starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very     shortly.         Am I the only one who is outraged by this?         Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy     Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company     will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be     diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees     will not be discounted.         So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but     they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our     maintenance contract before I was told of this!).         In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR     System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure. If     BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and outsourcing     it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy     professionals next to the engineers themselves.         What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO     IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy     support infrastructure.         I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regarding     this direction.         If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, which     is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to     seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where     they have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not underpayed     call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no context     of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with the     Remedy software engineering community.         As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am     insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback on     this initiative.         What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)         What can we do to get BMC to keep their existing support infrastructure and     stop them from farming out their support to people who can not even speak     clear American English?         JP         _     Deck to dock: outfit your cottage in stylish comfort. Check out Sympatico /     MSN Shopping for great Cottage Living ideas.     http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/category/shp/?bCatID=11,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=081801         ___     UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.wwrug.org     
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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Title: RE: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
**





Claire:
 
This is very true, but at least the tier 1 help desk folks know when they have reached the end of their rope and turn the problem over to a tier 1 person.  It is fun dealing with them when you tell them that you researched the web site and the list B4 you put in the incident report...

 
James McKenzie
 





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 2:10 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!



** 
James,
 
I was saying that we (as in the company I work for) have been receiving support from Remedy from India for several months (at least 8 months).  It has not been as fast or as good as the "good Old Days", but nothing is...

 
Claire





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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:58 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!



** 
Claire:
 
I got a call, a long time ago from Ireland.  This was the first time that I was aware that Remedy Corp. had a presence in that country.  There are several companies that I work with that have overseas locations.  Some of this is to reduce the stress in a 24X7 environment and to provide the best service.  And not all Tier 2 and 3 engineers are locacated in Mountain View.

 
James McKenzie
 





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!



** 
That post almost seems like a "troll".  I have never seen a post from "Jamahowal Pinitubel " before.
 
We have been receiving support from India for months!





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!



** 
Well
 
That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's true).  I wouldn't freak just yet.
 
Warren


 
On 9/7/06, Jamahowal Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


    Hello community,
    
    I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be
    starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very 
    shortly.
    
    Am I the only one who is outraged by this?
    
    Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy
    Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company
    will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be 
    diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees
    will not be discounted.
    
    So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but
    they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our 
    maintenance contract before I was told of this!).
    
    In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR
    System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure. If
    BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and outsourcing 
    it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy
    professionals next to the engineers themselves.
    
    What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO
    IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy 
    support infrastructure.
    
    I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regarding
    this direction.
    
    If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, which
    is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to 
    seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where
    they have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not underpayed
    call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no context 
    of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with the
    Remedy software engineering community.
    
    As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am
    insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback on 
    this initiative.
    
    What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)
    
    What can we 

Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Warren Baltimore
**
And that's why I said I wasn't sure I buy into it.
 
I just don't want everyone to get there shorts all bunged up just yet.  This is a Rumor folks.  Not the first time we have heard this kind of rumor either!  Not saying it won't happen, not saying if it does it will be a bad thing or a good thing.  Just saying "let's see what happens".

 
Warren 
On 9/7/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

** 

Warren:   Not to expand on this but note my reply to Claire.    And there are books and articles on the reverse.  Dell decided to shutdown the Austin, Texas call center. A very large customer called in to a high level executive advising them that that company was cancelling their present order and would not buy anymore Dell products.  In about three weeks, there were ads in the papers advising that the call center was reopening and that former Dell employees would be rehired without any loss of time (as if they were not laid off in the first place.)  

  James McKenzie   
 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:56 PM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
 


** 
Keynote Speaker - Geoffrey Moore , Managing Director, TCG Advisors and Author of Crossing the Chasm   He talked about how Outsourcing is not neccesarily a bad thing.  It allows the organization to refocus on new tasks by retasking those who were doing support.  I'm not sure I buy into all of it.  And this is not a very good explanation of an hour long talk.  Anybody else care to explain mr. Moore's ideas? 



  Warren 
  
On 9/7/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: 



    ** 
    Warren:           Details for those of us not able to go to BUW?           
James McKenzie 
     

    From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore 



    Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:48 PM 
    To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <
mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> 
    Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!! 



    ** 
        Well           That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's true).  I wouldn't freak just yet. 
          Warren 
            On 9/7/06, Jamahowal Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



        Hello community,                 I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be 
        starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very         shortly.         
        Am I the only one who is outraged by this?                 Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy 
        Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company         will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be 
        diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees         will not be discounted.         
        So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but         they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our 
        maintenance contract before I was told of this!).                 In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR 
        System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure. If         BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and outsourcing 
        it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy         professionals next to the engineers themselves.     
            What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO         IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy 
        support infrastructure.                 I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regarding 
        this direction.                 If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, which 
        is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to         seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where 
        they have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not underpayed         call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no context 
        of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with the         Remedy software engineer

OT- I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Sanford, Claire
Excuse me... I found one... 7/28/2005 a job available post. 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamahowal Pinitubel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:02 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

Claire, contact me offline at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would like to

validate my authenticity. You have OBVIOUSLY missed my prior posts. You 
should back up your statements with facts before you make them.

JP



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!


**
That post almost seems like a "troll".  I have never seen a post from 
"Jamahowal Pinitubel " before.

We have been receiving support from India for months!





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!


**
Well

That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's
true).  
I wouldn't freak just yet.

Warren


On 9/7/06, Jamahowal Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello community,

I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they
will be
starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland
very
shortly.

Am I the only one who is outraged by this?

Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy
Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company
will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be
diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance
fees
will not be discounted.

So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support
but
they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our
maintenance contract before I was told of this!).

In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR
System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure.
If
BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and
outsourcing
it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy
professionals next to the engineers themselves.

What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO
IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy
support infrastructure.

I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him
regarding
this direction.

If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product,
which
is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to
seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where
they have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not
underpayed
call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no
context
of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with
the
Remedy software engineering community.

As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am
insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback
on
this initiative.

What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)

What can we do to get BMC to keep their existing support infrastructure
and
stop them from farming out their support to people who can not even
speak
clear American English?

JP

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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Sanford, Claire
**



James,
 
I was saying that we (as in the company I work for) have been 
receiving support from Remedy from India for several months (at least 8 
months).  It has not been as fast or as good as the "good Old Days", but 
nothing is...
 
Claire


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J 
C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:58 
PMTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: I Am Outraged! - 
BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
** 

Claire:
 
I got a call, a long time ago from Ireland.  This was 
the first time that I was aware that Remedy Corp. had a presence in that 
country.  There are several companies that I work with that have overseas 
locations.  Some of this is to reduce the stress in a 24X7 environment and 
to provide the best service.  And not all Tier 2 and 3 engineers are 
locacated in Mountain View.
 
James McKenzie
 


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford, 
ClaireSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:55 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is 
Outsourcing Support!!
** 

That post almost seems like a "troll".  I have never seen a post 
from "Jamahowal Pinitubel " 
before.
 
We have been receiving support from India for 
months!


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren 
BaltimoreSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:48 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is 
Outsourcing Support!!
** 
Well
 
That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's 
true).  I wouldn't freak just yet.
 
Warren 
On 9/7/06, Jamahowal 
Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Hello 
  community,I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC 
  that they will bestarting to outsource their support to Pune, India and 
  Dublin, Ireland very shortly.Am I the only one who is outraged by 
  this?Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for 
  RemedySupport. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our 
  companywill stop paying for support altogether next year because they will 
  be diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance 
  feeswill not be discounted.So THEY will be saving a ton of money 
  by giving us compromised support butthey will not be compensating us in 
  any way (and we just renewed our maintenance contract before I was told of 
  this!).In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the 
  actual ARSystem platform from Remedy is their support teams and 
  infrastructure. IfBMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure 
  up and outsourcing it, then thay are going to lose the second most 
  valuable pool of Remedyprofessionals next to the engineers 
  themselves.What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously 
  boneheads who have NOIDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product 
  line and the Remedy support infrastructure.I have emailed Bob 
  Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regardingthis 
  direction.If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for 
  this product, whichis critical to us in our rapid development environment, 
  we are going to seriously consider moving to another development platform 
  entirely wherethey have on-site American/English speaking professionals - 
  not underpayedcall centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no 
  understanding and no context of the platform, and no relationships & 
  restricted escalation paths with theRemedy software engineering 
  community.As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this 
  move and I aminsulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they 
  solicited feedback on this initiative.What does everyone else 
  think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)What can we do to get BMC to 
  keep their existing support infrastructure andstop them from farming out 
  their support to people who can not even speak clear American 
  English?JP_Deck 
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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Tyrone Dee
Title: RE: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
**



Yes, I remember that ... Dell had "egg" on their 
face.
 
I think more and more customers should let corporations 
know they are not happy.
 
 


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J 
C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:01 
PMTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: I Am Outraged! - 
BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
** 

Warren:   Not to expand on this but note my reply to Claire.    And there are books and articles on the 
reverse.  Dell decided to shutdown the Austin, Texas call center. A very 
large customer called in to a high level executive advising them that that 
company was cancelling their present order and would not buy anymore Dell 
products.  In about three weeks, there were ads in the papers advising that 
the call center was reopening and that former Dell employees would be rehired 
without any loss of time (as if they were not laid off in the first 
place.)  
 James McKenzie   
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of 
Warren Baltimore Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:56 
PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!! 

** Keynote Speaker - Geoffrey Moore , 
Managing Director, TCG Advisors and Author of Crossing the Chasm 
  He talked about how Outsourcing 
is not neccesarily a bad thing.  It allows the organization to refocus on 
new tasks by retasking those who were doing support.  I'm not sure I buy 
into all of it.  And this is not a very good explanation of an hour long 
talk.  Anybody else care to explain mr. Moore's ideas? 
 Warren 
 On 9/7/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC 
HQISEC/L3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
    ** 
    Warren: 
      
    Details for 
those of us not able to go to BUW? 
      
    James 
McKenzie 
     
    From: Action Request 
System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of 
Warren Baltimore 
    Sent: Thursday, 
September 07, 2006 1:48 PM     
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG  
    Subject: Re: 
I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!! 
    ** 
    
    Well 
      
    That explains 
the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's true).  I wouldn't 
freak just yet.           Warren 
    
    
    On 9/7/06, Jamahowal 
Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
        Hello community, 
        
        I have it on good authority 
from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be 
        starting to outsource their 
support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very 
        shortly. 
        
        Am I the only one who is 
outraged by this?         
        Our company already pays an 
unconscionable amount of money for Remedy 
        Support. If they start to 
outsource I can guarantee you that our company 
        will stop paying for support 
altogether next year because they will be 
        diminishing the value of this 
support drastically but our maintenance fees 
        will not be discounted. 
        
        So THEY will be saving a ton 
of money by giving us compromised support but 
        they will not be compensating 
us in any way (and we just renewed our 
        maintenance contract before I 
was told of this!).         
        In my experience, the second 
most valuable thing besides the actual AR 
        System platform from Remedy is 
their support teams and infrastructure. If 
        BMC is going to start carving 
the support infrastructure up and outsourcing 
        it, then thay are going to 
lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy 
        professionals next to the 
engineers themselves.     
    
        What is BMC thinking? The 
executives are obviously boneheads who have NO 
        IDEA of the value of the 
Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy 
        support infrastructure. 
        
        I have emailed Bob Beauchamp 
but have not had a response from him regarding 
        this direction. 
        
        If we can no longer rely on 
the past stellar support for this product, which 
        is critical to us in our rapid 
development environment, we are going to 
        seriously consider moving to 
another development platform entirely where 
        they have on-site 
American/English speaking professionals - not underpayed 
        call centre (KB screen-reader) 
reps who have no understanding and no context 
        of the platform, and no 
r

Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Title: RE: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
**





Warren:
 
Not to expand on this but note my reply to Claire.  
 
And there are books and articles on the reverse.  Dell decided to shutdown the Austin, Texas call center. A very large customer called in to a high level executive advising them that that company was cancelling their present order and would not buy anymore Dell products.  In about three weeks, there were ads in the papers advising that the call center was reopening and that former Dell employees would be rehired without any loss of time (as if they were not laid off in the first place.)  

 
James McKenzie
 





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:56 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!



** 
Keynote Speaker - Geoffrey Moore , Managing Director, TCG Advisors and Author of Crossing the Chasm
 
He talked about how Outsourcing is not neccesarily a bad thing.  It allows the organization to refocus on new tasks by retasking those who were doing support.  I'm not sure I buy into all of it.  And this is not a very good explanation of an hour long talk.  Anybody else care to explain mr. Moore's ideas? 

 
Warren


 
On 9/7/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


    ** 


    Warren: 
      
    Details for those of us not able to go to BUW? 
      
    James McKenzie 


     


    From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore 

    Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:48 PM 
    To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG  
    Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!! 



    ** 


    
    Well 
      
    That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's true).  I wouldn't freak just yet. 
      
    Warren 


        
    On 9/7/06, Jamahowal Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


        Hello community, 
        
        I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be 
        starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very 
        shortly. 
        
        Am I the only one who is outraged by this? 
        
        Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy 
        Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company 
        will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be 
        diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees 
        will not be discounted. 
        
        So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but 
        they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our 
        maintenance contract before I was told of this!). 
        
        In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR 
        System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure. If 
        BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and outsourcing 
        it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy 
        professionals next to the engineers themselves. 
        
        What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO 
        IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy 
        support infrastructure. 
        
        I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regarding 
        this direction. 
        
        If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, which 
        is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to 
        seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where 
        they have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not underpayed 
        call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no context 
        of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with the 
        Remedy software engineering community. 
        
        As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am 
        insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback on 
        this initiative. 
        
        What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime i

Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Jamahowal Pinitubel
Claire, contact me offline at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would like to 
validate my authenticity. You have OBVIOUSLY missed my prior posts. You 
should back up your statements with facts before you make them.


JP


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire

Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!


**
That post almost seems like a "troll".  I have never seen a post from 
"Jamahowal Pinitubel " before.


We have been receiving support from India for months!




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore

Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!


**
Well

That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's true).  
I wouldn't freak just yet.


Warren


On 9/7/06, Jamahowal Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello community,

I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be
starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very
shortly.

Am I the only one who is outraged by this?

Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy
Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company
will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be
diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees
will not be discounted.

So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but
they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our
maintenance contract before I was told of this!).

In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR
System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure. If
BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and outsourcing
it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy
professionals next to the engineers themselves.

What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO
IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy
support infrastructure.

I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regarding
this direction.

If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, which
is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to
seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where
they have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not underpayed
call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no context
of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with the
Remedy software engineering community.

As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am
insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback on
this initiative.

What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)

What can we do to get BMC to keep their existing support infrastructure and
stop them from farming out their support to people who can not even speak
clear American English?

JP

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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Tyrone Dee
I don't know how that poor CEO lives off of 1.5 million dollars !!!

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baytops, Abdullah P.
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:56 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

What..

I totally agree with you.  This is LUDACRIS!  I will definitely also
keep this is mind with the clients I do support because it is too
frustrating dealing with people who won't have a clue besides the limited
training they do receive and then expect to resolve our issues.  This is
just another corporate way to save money by decreasing jobs for people right
here in the good old USA and increase their pockets. Besides the CEO only
make about 1.5 million a year he may need a little more because the market
is bad  

Some things suck and only get worse as time goes forward.

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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:44 PM
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Importance: High


Hello community,

I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be

starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very
shortly.

Am I the only one who is outraged by this?

Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy
Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company
will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be
diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees
will not be discounted.

So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but
they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our
maintenance contract before I was told of this!).

In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR
System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure. If
BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and outsourcing
it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy
professionals next to the engineers themselves.

What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO
IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy
support infrastructure.

I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regarding
this direction.

If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, which

is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to
seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where
they have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not underpayed
call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no context

of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with the

Remedy software engineering community.

As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am
insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback on
this initiative.

What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)

What can we do to get BMC to keep their existing support infrastructure and
stop them from farming out their support to people who can not even speak
clear American English?

JP

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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
**



Claire:
 
I got a call, a long time ago from Ireland.  This was 
the first time that I was aware that Remedy Corp. had a presence in that 
country.  There are several companies that I work with that have overseas 
locations.  Some of this is to reduce the stress in a 24X7 environment and 
to provide the best service.  And not all Tier 2 and 3 engineers are 
locacated in Mountain View.
 
James McKenzie
 


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford, 
ClaireSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:55 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is 
Outsourcing Support!!
** 

That post almost seems like a "troll".  I have never seen a post 
from "Jamahowal Pinitubel " 
before.
 
We have been receiving support from India for 
months!


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren 
BaltimoreSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:48 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is 
Outsourcing Support!!
** 
Well
 
That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's 
true).  I wouldn't freak just yet.
 
Warren 
On 9/7/06, Jamahowal 
Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Hello 
  community,I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC 
  that they will bestarting to outsource their support to Pune, India and 
  Dublin, Ireland very shortly.Am I the only one who is outraged by 
  this?Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for 
  RemedySupport. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our 
  companywill stop paying for support altogether next year because they will 
  be diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance 
  feeswill not be discounted.So THEY will be saving a ton of money 
  by giving us compromised support butthey will not be compensating us in 
  any way (and we just renewed our maintenance contract before I was told of 
  this!).In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the 
  actual ARSystem platform from Remedy is their support teams and 
  infrastructure. IfBMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure 
  up and outsourcing it, then thay are going to lose the second most 
  valuable pool of Remedyprofessionals next to the engineers 
  themselves.What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously 
  boneheads who have NOIDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product 
  line and the Remedy support infrastructure.I have emailed Bob 
  Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regardingthis 
  direction.If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for 
  this product, whichis critical to us in our rapid development environment, 
  we are going to seriously consider moving to another development platform 
  entirely wherethey have on-site American/English speaking professionals - 
  not underpayedcall centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no 
  understanding and no context of the platform, and no relationships & 
  restricted escalation paths with theRemedy software engineering 
  community.As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this 
  move and I aminsulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they 
  solicited feedback on this initiative.What does everyone else 
  think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)What can we do to get BMC to 
  keep their existing support infrastructure andstop them from farming out 
  their support to people who can not even speak clear American 
  English?JP_Deck 
  to dock: outfit your cottage in stylish comfort. Check out Sympatico /MSN 
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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Pierson, Shawn
I know a couple of BMC employees, and none of them have expressed any
concern of their jobs being in danger, so I don't know that what you are
saying is accurate.

Additionally, I know that BMC does have offices in Pune comprised of BMC
employees, so it would not be outsourcing, but rather a form of
offshoring.  There is a big difference, because outsourcing could even
mean turning over support to a U.S.-based firm, for example.  Offshoring
can be combined with outsourcing but they are not necessarily the same.

As far as my opinion goes, I also would prefer to see those jobs based
out of the U.S., but this is the way of globalization and the way the
rest of the industry has gone or is going.  All we can do is stay agile
and make sure that we take care of ourselves while business changes.

If you are truly outraged and believe that everyone else will be
outraged as well, why not start a company that can become a Remedy
partner who specializes in supporting ARS?  That way your employees will
have to deal with overseas support while your clients can deal with you
in the U.S.

Shawn Pierson

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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Baytops, Abdullah P.
What..

I totally agree with you.  This is LUDACRIS!  I will definitely also
keep this is mind with the clients I do support because it is too
frustrating dealing with people who won't have a clue besides the limited
training they do receive and then expect to resolve our issues.  This is
just another corporate way to save money by decreasing jobs for people right
here in the good old USA and increase their pockets. Besides the CEO only
make about 1.5 million a year he may need a little more because the market
is bad  

Some things suck and only get worse as time goes forward.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:44 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
Importance: High


Hello community,

I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be

starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very 
shortly.

Am I the only one who is outraged by this?

Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy 
Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company 
will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be 
diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees 
will not be discounted.

So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but 
they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our 
maintenance contract before I was told of this!).

In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR 
System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure. If 
BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and outsourcing 
it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy 
professionals next to the engineers themselves.

What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO 
IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy 
support infrastructure.

I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regarding 
this direction.

If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, which

is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to 
seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where 
they have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not underpayed 
call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no context

of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with the

Remedy software engineering community.

As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am 
insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback on 
this initiative.

What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)

What can we do to get BMC to keep their existing support infrastructure and 
stop them from farming out their support to people who can not even speak 
clear American English?

JP

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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Tyrone Dee
How typical ... All companies spend more time worrying about the "bottom
line" then they do about customers.

Linksys did this and any time I call for tech support there is a language
barrier problem, not to mention their lack of knowledge of the product.

I agree the support from Remedy is good.  So why does Remedy want to take a
good thing and ruin it?

Remedy should ask the CUSTOMER - we are the ones who buy the product!


 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamahowal Pinitubel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:44 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
Importance: High

Hello community,

I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be
starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very
shortly.

Am I the only one who is outraged by this?

Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy
Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company
will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be
diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees
will not be discounted.

So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but
they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our
maintenance contract before I was told of this!).

In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR
System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure. If
BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and outsourcing
it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy
professionals next to the engineers themselves.

What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO
IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy
support infrastructure.

I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regarding
this direction.

If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, which
is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to
seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where
they have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not underpayed
call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no context
of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with the
Remedy software engineering community.

As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am
insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback on
this initiative.

What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)

What can we do to get BMC to keep their existing support infrastructure and
stop them from farming out their support to people who can not even speak
clear American English?

JP

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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Warren Baltimore
**
Keynote Speaker - Geoffrey Moore , Managing Director, TCG Advisors and Author of Crossing the Chasm
 
He talked about how Outsourcing is not neccesarily a bad thing.  It allows the organization to refocus on new tasks by retasking those who were doing support.  I'm not sure I buy into all of it.  And this is not a very good explanation of an hour long talk.  Anybody else care to explain mr. Moore's ideas?

 
Warren 
On 9/7/06, McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

** 

Warren:   Details for those of us not able to go to BUW?   James McKenzie 
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore
 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:48 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!! 
** 
Well   That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's true).  I wouldn't freak just yet.
   Warren 



  On 9/7/06, Jamahowal Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

    Hello community,         I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be     starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very 
    shortly.         Am I the only one who is outraged by this?         Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy
     Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company     will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be 
    diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees     will not be discounted.         So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but
     they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our     maintenance contract before I was told of this!).         
In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR     System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure. If     BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and outsourcing 
    it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy     professionals next to the engineers themselves.         
What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO     IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy     support infrastructure.
         I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regarding     this direction.         If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, which
     is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to     seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where 
    they have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not underpayed     call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no context 
    of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with the     Remedy software engineering community.         
As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am     insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback on     this initiative.
         What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)         What can we do to get BMC to keep their existing support infrastructure and
     stop them from farming out their support to people who can not even speak     clear American English?         JP
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Re: new remedy admin needs training advice (U)

2006-09-07 Thread Hennigan, Sandra H CTR OSD-CIO
UNCLASSIFIED

Do you have any database or account management experience? 

Sandra Hennigan

OSD Remedy Administrator
Office # 703-602-2525 x251
CACI - Ever Vigilant(tm)

Apparently, there is nothing that cannot happen today.  Mark Twain


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NoSuchStudios
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:56 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: new remedy admin needs training advice


Hi all, 

I've recently been assigned the title of Remedy Administrator...the
problem...i'm a Sys Admin with very little Remedy experience and my
company won't be able to get me into training until january or so. 

My question is this. What should i be studying outside of the remedy
manuals so i can become at least fairly proficient. I've managed to work
out some basic things like CTI's, basic AL's and escalations, and some
basic CM and Helpdesk administration but its been very very slow. What
programs, languages, etc.. should i be focusing on? 

Any advice would be much appreciated. We're working on a Windows 2k3
platform with AR System 6.3 and Oracle 9i. 

V/R 

Jason 
NoSuchStudios

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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Sanford, Claire
**



That post almost seems like a "troll".  I have never seen a post 
from "Jamahowal Pinitubel " 
before.
 
We have been receiving support from India for 
months!


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren 
BaltimoreSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:48 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is 
Outsourcing Support!!
** 
Well
 
That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's 
true).  I wouldn't freak just yet.
 
Warren 
On 9/7/06, Jamahowal 
Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Hello 
  community,I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC 
  that they will bestarting to outsource their support to Pune, India and 
  Dublin, Ireland very shortly.Am I the only one who is outraged by 
  this?Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for 
  RemedySupport. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our 
  companywill stop paying for support altogether next year because they will 
  be diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance 
  feeswill not be discounted.So THEY will be saving a ton of money 
  by giving us compromised support butthey will not be compensating us in 
  any way (and we just renewed our maintenance contract before I was told of 
  this!).In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the 
  actual ARSystem platform from Remedy is their support teams and 
  infrastructure. IfBMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure 
  up and outsourcing it, then thay are going to lose the second most 
  valuable pool of Remedyprofessionals next to the engineers 
  themselves.What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously 
  boneheads who have NOIDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product 
  line and the Remedy support infrastructure.I have emailed Bob 
  Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regardingthis 
  direction.If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for 
  this product, whichis critical to us in our rapid development environment, 
  we are going to seriously consider moving to another development platform 
  entirely wherethey have on-site American/English speaking professionals - 
  not underpayedcall centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no 
  understanding and no context of the platform, and no relationships & 
  restricted escalation paths with theRemedy software engineering 
  community.As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this 
  move and I aminsulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they 
  solicited feedback on this initiative.What does everyone else 
  think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)What can we do to get BMC to 
  keep their existing support infrastructure andstop them from farming out 
  their support to people who can not even speak clear American 
  English?JP_Deck 
  to dock: outfit your cottage in stylish comfort. Check out Sympatico /MSN 
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new remedy admin needs training advice

2006-09-07 Thread NoSuchStudios
Hi all, 

I've recently been assigned the title of Remedy Administrator...the
problem...i'm a Sys Admin with very little Remedy experience and my company
won't be able to get me into training until january or so. 

My question is this. What should i be studying outside of the remedy manuals
so i can become at least fairly proficient. I've managed to work out some
basic things like CTI's, basic AL's and escalations, and some basic CM and
Helpdesk administration but its been very very slow. What programs,
languages, etc.. should i be focusing on? 

Any advice would be much appreciated. We're working on a Windows 2k3
platform with AR System 6.3 and Oracle 9i. 

V/R 

Jason 
NoSuchStudios

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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Title: RE: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!
**





Warren:
 
Details for those of us not able to go to BUW?
 
James McKenzie





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!



** 
Well
 
That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's true).  I wouldn't freak just yet.
 
Warren


 
On 9/7/06, Jamahowal Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


    Hello community,
    
    I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be
    starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very 
    shortly.
    
    Am I the only one who is outraged by this?
    
    Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy
    Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company
    will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be 
    diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees
    will not be discounted.
    
    So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but
    they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our 
    maintenance contract before I was told of this!).
    
    In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR
    System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure. If
    BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and outsourcing 
    it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy
    professionals next to the engineers themselves.
    
    What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO
    IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy 
    support infrastructure.
    
    I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regarding
    this direction.
    
    If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, which
    is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to 
    seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where
    they have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not underpayed
    call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no context 
    of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with the
    Remedy software engineering community.
    
    As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am
    insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback on 
    this initiative.
    
    What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)
    
    What can we do to get BMC to keep their existing support infrastructure and
    stop them from farming out their support to people who can not even speak 
    clear American English?
    
    JP
    
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Re: I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Warren Baltimore
**
Well
 
That explains the Keynote speaker at this years User World (if it's true).  I wouldn't freak just yet.
 
Warren 
On 9/7/06, Jamahowal Pinitubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello community,I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will bestarting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very
shortly.Am I the only one who is outraged by this?Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for RemedySupport. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our companywill stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be
diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance feeswill not be discounted.So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support butthey will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our
maintenance contract before I was told of this!).In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual ARSystem platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure. IfBMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and outsourcing
it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedyprofessionals next to the engineers themselves.What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NOIDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy
support infrastructure.I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regardingthis direction.If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, whichis critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to
seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely wherethey have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not underpayedcall centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no context
of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with theRemedy software engineering community.As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I aminsulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback on
this initiative.What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)What can we do to get BMC to keep their existing support infrastructure andstop them from farming out their support to people who can not even speak
clear American English?JP_Deck to dock: outfit your cottage in stylish comfort. Check out Sympatico /MSN Shopping for great Cottage Living ideas.
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I Am Outraged! - BMC/Remedy is Outsourcing Support!!

2006-09-07 Thread Jamahowal Pinitubel

Hello community,

I have it on good authority from one of my contacts at BMC that they will be 
starting to outsource their support to Pune, India and Dublin, Ireland very 
shortly.


Am I the only one who is outraged by this?

Our company already pays an unconscionable amount of money for Remedy 
Support. If they start to outsource I can guarantee you that our company 
will stop paying for support altogether next year because they will be 
diminishing the value of this support drastically but our maintenance fees 
will not be discounted.


So THEY will be saving a ton of money by giving us compromised support but 
they will not be compensating us in any way (and we just renewed our 
maintenance contract before I was told of this!).


In my experience, the second most valuable thing besides the actual AR 
System platform from Remedy is their support teams and infrastructure. If 
BMC is going to start carving the support infrastructure up and outsourcing 
it, then thay are going to lose the second most valuable pool of Remedy 
professionals next to the engineers themselves.


What is BMC thinking? The executives are obviously boneheads who have NO 
IDEA of the value of the Remedy AR System product line and the Remedy 
support infrastructure.


I have emailed Bob Beauchamp but have not had a response from him regarding 
this direction.


If we can no longer rely on the past stellar support for this product, which 
is critical to us in our rapid development environment, we are going to 
seriously consider moving to another development platform entirely where 
they have on-site American/English speaking professionals - not underpayed 
call centre (KB screen-reader) reps who have no understanding and no context 
of the platform, and no relationships & restricted escalation paths with the 
Remedy software engineering community.


As a longtime customer, I am personally outraged by this move and I am 
insulted that BMC has not contacted us nor have they solicited feedback on 
this initiative.


What does everyone else think? (Please, EVERYONE chime in on this)

What can we do to get BMC to keep their existing support infrastructure and 
stop them from farming out their support to people who can not even speak 
clear American English?


JP

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CMDB 2.0 implentation

2006-09-07 Thread Den Fong
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Hi
 
I have just installed CMDB 2.0, and going through the documentation.  However it doesn't have much on next steps, ie tying into data sources, populating data?  Or defining business process classes?  
 
Anybody have any info on the best approach to getting the CMDB functional?
 
Thx
 
Den
 
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Re: Avoid opening the same request-id twice

2006-09-07 Thread lars . j . pettersson
You are right ...but, is there any reason to open the same id/form twice for 
user? I can't see any situation. This should not be be possibly I think, in 
next aruser.exe ...? One of the most frequest asked questions is, why are so 
may windows opened in ars ../L ars 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike White
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:09 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Avoid opening the same request-id twice


I'm not sure you can prevent opening (i.e. displaying) the same Request ID
more than once without some ugly stuff - setting a flag field, which trips
the change flag, requiring the user to save a request that he/she was only
viewing, coupled with an error on display if the flag field is set.

An alternative might be to use events to close the window of an
already-displayed request.

You could build an AL with Execute On = Display, no Run If (or 'Request ID'
!= $NULL$?), If Action = Run Process PERFORM-ACTION-SEND-EVENT (ARS 6.0,
DAB, p. 710).   would probably be * (i.e. all windows managed by
the client) and  could be a concatenation of $SCHEMA$ and
$Request ID$ (unique to form and record).

A second AL with an earlier Execution Order, Execute On = Event, Run If =
$EVENTTYPE$ = $SCHEMA$ + 'Request ID', If Action = Close Window (possibly
preceded by a message to let the user know what's going on).

This isn't great, either.  You really don't know what you're closing.  The
user could have searched for multiple records and happens to be positioned
on one that was later searched for/displayed in another window.  The second
display would cause the first to close.  Could be irritating.

Mike White
Office:  813-978-2192
E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



   
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Hi, anyone tried this successfully, to prevent user X from opening the same
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Use Global fields ..?
Give an error/warning(?) message if criteria is met?
Any way to switch to the already opended window?
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Vattenfall Business Services Nordic AB
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Re: Product/Operational Categorizations

2006-09-07 Thread Valerie Balloon
Here is the information I received 

Operation Catalog is for service support - which basically means that you 
are generating Tier 1 (required) and Tier 2 & Tier 3 (Optional) for Service 
Desk and Change Management requests.
 
Product Catalog is for CI tracking - In otherwords related to CMDB tracking 
of CIs.  This is more along the lines of products that you own or support.
 

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Re: Avoid opening the same request-id twice

2006-09-07 Thread Mike White
I'm not sure you can prevent opening (i.e. displaying) the same Request ID
more than once without some ugly stuff - setting a flag field, which trips
the change flag, requiring the user to save a request that he/she was only
viewing, coupled with an error on display if the flag field is set.

An alternative might be to use events to close the window of an
already-displayed request.

You could build an AL with Execute On = Display, no Run If (or 'Request ID'
!= $NULL$?), If Action = Run Process PERFORM-ACTION-SEND-EVENT (ARS 6.0,
DAB, p. 710).   would probably be * (i.e. all windows managed by
the client) and  could be a concatenation of $SCHEMA$ and
$Request ID$ (unique to form and record).

A second AL with an earlier Execution Order, Execute On = Event, Run If =
$EVENTTYPE$ = $SCHEMA$ + 'Request ID', If Action = Close Window (possibly
preceded by a message to let the user know what's going on).

This isn't great, either.  You really don't know what you're closing.  The
user could have searched for multiple records and happens to be positioned
on one that was later searched for/displayed in another window.  The second
display would cause the first to close.  Could be irritating.

Mike White
Office:  813-978-2192
E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


   
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Use Global fields ..?
Give an error/warning(?) message if criteria is met?
Any way to switch to the already opended window?
L ars Pettersson
Vattenfall Business Services Nordic AB
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S-461 88 Trollhättan
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Re: AL stopped working (no changes on AL)

2006-09-07 Thread lars . j . pettersson
George, sure this problem is related to action 'set fields'? We have Al's only 
running Open window and we have to resave the al to get it to work ..for a 
while .../L ars

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of George Barsan
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:37 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: AL stopped working (no changes on AL)


Hi David,

I removed all fields from the set field and added them one by one..
The one causing the problem is the field SelectionCriteria which I use
later on as external qualification for the open window. The strange
thing is that it stopps not only the open-win AL firing next, it
blocks all open-win AL's running behind that form (even though it
doesn't run there)...

I tried the following combinations for SelectionCriteria:
  "( $NumericCaseID$ = 'NumericCaseID')"  // as used in another AL and
working fine there
  "$NumericCaseID$ = 'NumericCaseID'"
  "$NumericCaseID$ = 1"
  "'NumericCaseID' = 1"
  1 = 1
  1 = 2

None of them worked: the AL processing stops as described without any
error message.

Please also note that if I change the qualification to something
invalid (i.e. "$NumericCaseID$ = 'XXNumericCaseID'" or
"$XXNumericCaseID$ = 'NumericCaseID'" ARS correctly shows me a "There
was a problem expanding the EXTERNAL qualification" error message).

"If no requests match" is set to default message.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated..

Many thanks,

George



On 9/6/06, David Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi George
>
> Is the set fields action before the window open building a qualification for
> the report?  What are your settings in the open window to report action in
> the No Requests Match area?  If your qualification returns no matching
> records and you have your options set to 'Do Not Show Any message' and
> 'Suppress empty list', then the report window will just not open.
>
> Try setting the No Match options to 'Show Default Message' and see if that
> gives any clues.
>
> HTH
>
> David Sanders
> Remedy Solution Architect
> Enterprise Service Suite @ Work
> ==
> ARS List Award Winner 2005
> Best 3rd party Remedy Application
>
> tel +44 1494 468980
> mobile +44 7710 377761
> email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Barsan
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 5:17 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: AL stopped working (no changes on AL)
>
> No, not yet - but I'm going to do that..
>
> What I tried to do is to separate the actions from one large AL into 3
> smaller ones. The funny thing is, that I ended up with an
> open-window-AL (let's call it ReportInternal), for which I have a
> handy def file and it works fine. However, I need a set fields action
> running in front of it. I had two ideas:
>
> 1) I tried to add it to the ReportInternal-AL => open window fails
> 2) I tried to create a separate AL (called GetReportData) running with
> a lower order => open window fails
>
> Importing GetReportData-AL messes up all open window actions even in
> other AL behind that form, although they are running on totally
> different conditions. As soon as I delete the AL GetReportData, the
> open window actions are working again..
>
> Next, I exported both AL's as XML and copy & pasted the missing set
> field action in an editor and import the new XML.. Same result => open
> window fails :(
>
> I guess that there is a relationship between the set-field and the
> open window action... However, I've ran out of ideas..
>
> George
>
> On 9/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > George, have you checked the .arf files in the Home Folder on the clients,
> contains the al defintions I know, maybe a difference when the al is not is
> working and when it is working? Something corrupt in the arf file? /L ars
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of George Barsan
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:53 PM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: Re: AL stopped working (no changes on AL)
> >
> >
> > Hello Joe,
> >
> > Yep, the group names and ID's are equal.. We used a DB dump and
> > re-import to duplicate production to dev and only removed customer
> > related data (names, addresses & co)..
> >
> > George
> >
> >
> > On 9/6/06, Joe DeSouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Very basic question... Have you checked if the permission groups on both
> the
> > > dev and prod instances are identical - both group names and their ID's
> > > should be the same...
> > >
> > > Joe D'Souza
> > > Remedy Developer / Consultant,
> > > BearingPoint,
> > > Virginia.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message 
> > > From: "Kemes, Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: arslist@ARSL

Re: Escalation reminder every X hours

2006-09-07 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
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Here is what I have.   Note: I am on Sun so adjust as 
needed.
 
I have a script on the server 
that creates an ARTask file 

  #! /usr/bin/ksh#  
  Parameters  1-Server  2-Form_Name  3-Ticket_ID##  
  PPID = This shells unique Process 
  IDofile=/usr/tmp/Attachment${PPID}.ARTask#echo "[Shortcut]" > 
  $ofileecho "Name =" ${2} >> $ofileecho "Type = 0" >> 
  $ofileecho "Server =" ${1} >> $ofileecho "Join = 0" >> 
  $ofileecho "Ticket =" ${3} >> $ofileecho $ofileexit 
  0
I have a Filter that does the 
following
 
Action 1:  Set Fields   Set: zTempTxt1 = $PROCESS$ 
/usr/ar/make_ARTask_file.ksh $SERVER$ "IT Tickets" $Related Ticket ID$
 
Action 2:  Set Fields   Set: zShortcutAttachment = 
$PROCESS$ PERFORM-ACTION-ADD-ATTACHMENT 54138 "$zTempTxt1$"
 
Action 3:  Run Process   Command Line:  rm -f 
$zTempTxt1$
 
At this point I have the ticket shortcut as an attachment.  I modified 
the Email Messages form (adding a Display Only attachment for Ticket Shortcut 
and workflow to push it to the Email Attachments form on submit of a 
message).  I then just push my message to the Email Messages 
form.
 
 
Fred
-Original Message-From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of 
Reiser, John JSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:16 PMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: Escalation reminder every X 
hoursFred,How would you add a shortcut to the ticket using that 
as an escalation method?Does your system send the shortcut of the "Pending 
Notification" and then use an On Open AL to open the real ticket?When you 
delete it how do you deal with the technicians who keep the shortcut as a "quick 
Link" to their last ticket?Never mind that last question. If they can't 
figure it out I don't want them working on my PC 
problems;^>Thanks,John J. ReiserSoftware Development 
AnalystRemedy Administrator/DeveloperLockheed Martin - MS2The star 
that burns twice as bright burns half as long.Pay close attention and be 
illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me-Original 
Message-From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of 
Grooms, Frederick WSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:06 AMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: Escalation reminder every X hoursWe 
do something similar.   What we do is on Create of a ticket we 
pushto a table called "Pending Notifications".  On any Modify of the 
ticket we first delete any related records from the Pending Notifications (This 
allows us to create any additional ones we need).We run the Escalation 
against the Pending Notifications table to send the emails.  This way the 
Ticket is not touched so the Last Modify info is left 
alone.Fred-Original Message-From: Action Request 
System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of 
Reiser, John JSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:12 AMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Escalation reminder every X hoursHello 
Listers,Congrats to the ARSlist Award winners.ARS 6.3MS SQL 
Server 2000Midtier 6.3Homegrown Helpdesk formsJust as a sanity 
check I thought I would ask if anyone has a good process for "send out an email 
notification every X hours if the ticket is still at a status of 
New"?After the obvious failure of setting the escalation time to 2 Hrs ( 
Ticket entered 1 second after Esc doesn't go out in email for 3 hrs 59 minutes 
59 seconds) I decided to put a field on the HD form that will be populated with 
create time + 2 hrs.The escalation will run every 5 or 10 minutes and check 
the escalation time stored on create. It will increase the escalation time by 2 
hours if the status is still New.The Run If will be 'ESC_Time' < 
$TIMESTAMP$ AND Status = "New"The reason I am running this by the List 
is that I wanted to know if there was a slicker way to do this.Anyone? . . . 
Bueller? Bueller?Thanks,John J. ReiserSoftware Development 
AnalystRemedy Administrator/DeveloperLockheed Martin - MS2The star 
that burns twice as bright burns half as long.Pay close attention and be 
illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me
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Exchange Mail Server management with ITSM

2006-09-07 Thread McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
**



Again, another best 
practices question.  The U.S. Army is migrating to Exchange 20003 from 
previous versions.  Has anyone tracked the change management process and 
the incident/problem tracking process through ITSM and have best practice 
advice?
 
James 
McKenzie
L-3 
GSI
 
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Re: Product/Operational Categorizations in ITSM7

2006-09-07 Thread Gatewood Kelly
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I personally see operational as what you are doing and 
product as what you are doing it too.
 
just my 2 cents
 
Kelly 
Gatewood Manager, Remedy Product Line 
HCA Information 
Technology & Services  
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony 
WorthingtonSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:46To: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Product/Operational Categorizations in 
ITSM7
** So I'm not looking to re-kindle 
the CTI discussions...  :-) But 
for those of you implementing ITSM 7 have you found that the operational 
categorizations are pretty much CTI's (in the traditional sense)?   And 
product categorization is tied more closely to the CMDB? I guess what I'm trying to figure out is if we can use 
the traditional CTI excercises to define the operational 
categorizations...Loving 
ITSM7, -tony -- Tony 
Worthington[EMAIL PROTECTED]262-703-6125 
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Re: Product/Operational Categorizations in ITSM7

2006-09-07 Thread Axton

The operational categorization is meant to be used to define the
action/process.
Example: Install-> Software

The product categorization is meant to be used to define the object
that action/process is performed against:
Example: Software-> Adobe-> Acrobat-> 6.0

I thought there was some kind of linkage between the DSL and the
product categorization, but it's been too long since I looked at it.

Axton Grams

On 9/7/06, Rick cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

**
I've been waiting for Remedy to say that explicitly in their ITSM migration
docs when they come out, but I suspect you're right.

Rick 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Worthington
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:46 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Product/Operational Categorizations in ITSM7


**
So I'm not looking to re-kindle the CTI discussions...  :-)

But for those of you implementing ITSM 7 have you found that the operational
categorizations are pretty much CTI's (in the traditional sense)?   And
product categorization is tied more closely to the CMDB?

I guess what I'm trying to figure out is if we can use the traditional CTI
excercises to define the operational categorizations...


Loving ITSM7,
-tony

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Remedy/SMS with xinify

2006-09-07 Thread McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
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Again, another 
request for comments and best practices advise on this 
comibination?
 
James 
McKenzie
L-3 
GSI
 
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Documents on Integrating Remedy Link/Discovery Service for SMS

2006-09-07 Thread McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
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Anyone got a white 
paper/help document on how to use this product. 
 
Also, anyone worked 
through this product and have advice on best practices?
 
James 
Mckenzie
L-3 
GSI
 
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Re: Product/Operational Categorizations in ITSM7

2006-09-07 Thread Rick cook
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I've been waiting for Remedy to say that explicitly in 
their ITSM migration docs when they come out, but I suspect you're 
right.
 
Rick

From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony 
WorthingtonSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:46 AMTo: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Product/Operational Categorizations in 
ITSM7
** So I'm not looking to re-kindle 
the CTI discussions...  :-) But 
for those of you implementing ITSM 7 have you found that the operational 
categorizations are pretty much CTI's (in the traditional sense)?   And 
product categorization is tied more closely to the CMDB? I guess what I'm trying to figure out is if we can use 
the traditional CTI excercises to define the operational 
categorizations...Loving 
ITSM7, -tony -- Tony 
Worthington[EMAIL PROTECTED]262-703-6125 
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Avoid opening the same request-id twice

2006-09-07 Thread lars . j . pettersson
Hi, anyone tried this successfully, to prevent user X from opening the same 
request-id twice?
Use Global fields ..?
Give an error/warning(?) message if criteria is met?
Any way to switch to the already opended window?
L ars Pettersson
Vattenfall Business Services Nordic AB
Action Request System Engineer (Tabasco)
S-461 88 Trollhättan
Sweden

Phone +46 520 888 35 Mobil +46 70 608 99 95
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: SQL Syntax

2006-09-07 Thread Pierson, Shawn
Out of curiosity, why are you not doing this with a set fields (or push
fields) on a filter or active link?

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Koyb P. Liabt
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: SQL Syntax


Hi,

I am trying to pass a value into a field on HPD:Helpdesk, and make  sure
it
only updates the current record open.  I met with the dba,  referenced
database
guide, and I have this command below, however I am getting  failure
during
SQL operation - invalid character.

Does anybody know what is wrong with the syntax below:

update T418 set C535478792 = '$Secondary email$' where  C1 = '$Case
ID+$'; update T418 set C535478792 = "$Secondary email$" where C1 =
"$Case  ID+$";

update T418 set C535478792 = $Secondary email$ where C1 = $Case ID+$;


ARERR [552] Failure during SQL operation to the database : ORA-00911:
invalid character

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Product/Operational Categorizations in ITSM7

2006-09-07 Thread Tony Worthington
**

So I'm not looking to re-kindle the
CTI discussions...  :-)

But for those of you implementing ITSM
7 have you found that the operational categorizations are pretty much CTI's
(in the traditional sense)?   And product categorization is tied more
closely to the CMDB?

I guess what I'm trying to figure out
is if we can use the traditional CTI excercises to define the operational
categorizations...


Loving ITSM7,
-tony

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
262-703-6125
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Re: Integrating Remedy with Outlook

2006-09-07 Thread Dan Hardy
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You won’t be able to keep a whole
group of users in sync without running one instance of the Outlook client each,
logged in as each user.  (It sounds like perhaps you are hoping for server-side
synchronization).  This project is built as a client-side Outlook COM add-in,
so runs as a specific user as part of their Outlook client.

 

However…if you configure the XML
file on each client, you can include any number of Remedy servers and forms,
and each can include the authentication information.  The users won’t be
prompted for anything at all.

 

I’ll let you know when the update is
posted; I’ll try to get to it soon.

 

Dan

 









From: Action Request
System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]
On Behalf Of Rodney Harris
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006
3:36 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Integrating Remedy
with Outlook



 

Hi Dan,

 

Had a quick look at your
program and I like it. I wouldn’t mind taking a look at the multiple data
sources version as this will allow us to run Outlook on the server and keep a
whole group of users in sync without any config on their end. We were intending
to start with calendar sync anyway so the lack of contacts is something we can
add later.  A config file for the multi data source version might be the
way to go too as I wouldn’t want to be typing heaps of stuff in each time
Outlook started.

 

Yes – I like the
fact that it is free. Perhaps I can contribute to the project in return.

 

Good stuff!!

 

Rod

 

CMS Asset Solutions

Level 10, 23-25
  O’Connell Street

Sydney Australia

 

 

 









From: Action Request
System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]
On Behalf Of Dan Hardy
Sent: Thursday, 7 September 2006
4:06 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Integrating Remedy
with Outlook



 





 





You might look at:





 





http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/roi





 





It doesn't do anything with contacts...but it
synchronizes tasks and/or calendar.  And it's free.  And open
source.  And free.  And you could easily tweak it do contacts as well
(provided you know a little C++/STL/ATL and are able to muck about with
Outlooks' API).





 





I have an update coded locally that allows you to
synchronize multiple data sources (any number of source for tasks and/or
calendar).  It currently lacks a fancy UI for configuration of multiple
sources, but takes a straightforward XML config file.  If there is
interestI'll get around to checking it in and putting a new build up for
download.





 





Did I mention it's free?





 





Dan







 







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Sent: Wed 9/6/2006 7:24 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Integrating Remedy with
Outlook





** 

Hi All,

 

I’m looking at using a product called Genius
Connect (or similar) to link our custom Remedy V7 CRM system to Outlook. The
functionality we require is the ability for our sales force to use Outlook as
their contact list, calendar and task list while retaining compatibility with
our CRM. Has anyone done anything like this? 

 

This is how I’m planning to do it.

 

1. When the user has an internet connection, Outlook
synchronises with the Exchange server via HTTP or straight IP. The users use
the offline cache feature of Outlook to retain access to their data when not
connected.

2. A server runs Outlook with Genius connect
installed and connects to each mailbox that we want synchronised. Periodically
Genius Connect synchronises the Outlook mailboxes with an SQL database on the
same server as our Remedy database via ODBC. 

3. The Remedy server runs escalations that read and
write to the intermediate SQL server tables. The intermediate tables allow for
date conversions and allow Remedy to retain full control of its database.
Remedy can read from the SQL tables via View Forms and write to them via direct
SQL.

 

Is there a better way than this to do what we want?
Has anyone done anything similar and would they share their experiences with
me? 

 

Thanks,

 

Rod Harris

CMS Asset Solutions

Level 10, 23-25
  O’Connell Street

Sydney Australia








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Re: SQL Syntax

2006-09-07 Thread Mac McMillan

I may have been wrong about the ending semi-colon,  try it with and
without in direct sql action.



On 9/7/06, Mac McMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It looks like your running this from ARS.  Only the first line is
valid.  Also, you need to perform a commit.  If you must run this, you
need to execute an anomynous pl/sql as a direct sql action

Try this:

do
   update T418 set C535478792 = '$Secondary email$' where  C1 = '$Case ID+$';
   commit;
end

DON'T NEED THE ENDING SEMI-COLON!, ARS will add this for you.

==Mac

On 9/7/06, Frank Caruso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ** Not sure where you ar running this from - Remedy, oracle, sqlplus... but
> it is complaining about the semi-colon. If you are in Remedy I think you can
> remove it.
>
>
>
> On 9/7/06, Koyb P. Liabt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to pass a value into a field on HPD:Helpdesk, and make  sure
> it
> > only updates the current record open.  I met with the dba,  referenced
> database
> > guide, and I have this command below, however I am getting  failure during
> > SQL operation - invalid character.
> >
> > Does anybody know what is wrong with the syntax below:
> >
> > update T418 set C535478792 = '$Secondary email$' where  C1 = '$Case ID+$';
> > update T418 set C535478792 = "$Secondary email$" where C1 = "$Case  ID+$";
> >
> > update T418 set C535478792 = $Secondary email$ where C1 = $Case ID+$;
> >
> >
> > ARERR [552] Failure during SQL operation to the database : ORA-00911:
> > invalid character
> >
> > -
> > Forwarded Message:
> >
> >Subj: Re: SQL syntax   Date: 9/6/2006 5:04:09 P.M. Eastern Standard
> > Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Reply-to:
> >
> >
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Re: SQL Syntax

2006-09-07 Thread Mac McMillan

It looks like your running this from ARS.  Only the first line is
valid.  Also, you need to perform a commit.  If you must run this, you
need to execute an anomynous pl/sql as a direct sql action

Try this:

do
  update T418 set C535478792 = '$Secondary email$' where  C1 = '$Case ID+$';
  commit;
end

DON'T NEED THE ENDING SEMI-COLON!, ARS will add this for you.

==Mac

On 9/7/06, Frank Caruso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

** Not sure where you ar running this from - Remedy, oracle, sqlplus... but
it is complaining about the semi-colon. If you are in Remedy I think you can
remove it.



On 9/7/06, Koyb P. Liabt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to pass a value into a field on HPD:Helpdesk, and make  sure
it
> only updates the current record open.  I met with the dba,  referenced
database
> guide, and I have this command below, however I am getting  failure during
> SQL operation - invalid character.
>
> Does anybody know what is wrong with the syntax below:
>
> update T418 set C535478792 = '$Secondary email$' where  C1 = '$Case ID+$';
> update T418 set C535478792 = "$Secondary email$" where C1 = "$Case  ID+$";
>
> update T418 set C535478792 = $Secondary email$ where C1 = $Case ID+$;
>
>
> ARERR [552] Failure during SQL operation to the database : ORA-00911:
> invalid character
>
> -
> Forwarded Message:
>
>Subj: Re: SQL syntax   Date: 9/6/2006 5:04:09 P.M. Eastern Standard
> Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
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>
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Re: Escalation reminder every X hours

2006-09-07 Thread Reiser, John J
Fred,

How would you add a shortcut to the ticket using that as an escalation
method?
Does your system send the shortcut of the "Pending Notification" and
then use an On Open AL to open the real ticket?
When you delete it how do you deal with the technicians who keep the
shortcut as a "quick Link" to their last ticket?
Never mind that last question. If they can't figure it out I don't want
them working on my PC problems;^>

Thanks,


John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 
 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:06 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Escalation reminder every X hours

We do something similar.   What we do is on Create of a ticket we push
to a table called "Pending Notifications".  On any Modify of the ticket
we first delete any related records from the Pending Notifications (This
allows us to create any additional ones we need).

We run the Escalation against the Pending Notifications table to send
the emails.  This way the Ticket is not touched so the Last Modify info
is left alone.

Fred

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Escalation reminder every X hours

Hello Listers,

Congrats to the ARSlist Award winners.

ARS 6.3
MS SQL Server 2000
Midtier 6.3
Homegrown Helpdesk forms

Just as a sanity check I thought I would ask if anyone has a good
process for "send out an email notification every X hours if the ticket
is still at a status of New"?

After the obvious failure of setting the escalation time to 2 Hrs (
Ticket entered 1 second after Esc doesn't go out in email for 3 hrs 59
minutes 59 seconds) I decided to put a field on the HD form that will be
populated with create time + 2 hrs.
The escalation will run every 5 or 10 minutes and check the escalation
time stored on create. It will increase the escalation time by 2 hours
if the status is still New.
The Run If will be 'ESC_Time' < $TIMESTAMP$ AND Status = "New"

The reason I am running this by the List is that I wanted to know if
there was a slicker way to do this.
Anyone? . . . Bueller? Bueller?

Thanks,
John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
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Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 
 


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Re: SQL Syntax

2006-09-07 Thread lars . j . pettersson
Do you have this in workflow?, try to skip ; at the end of the command, Lars

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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: SQL Syntax


Hi,
 
I am trying to pass a value into a field on HPD:Helpdesk, and make  sure it 
only updates the current record open.  I met with the dba,  referenced database 
guide, and I have this command below, however I am getting  failure during 
SQL operation - invalid character.
 
Does anybody know what is wrong with the syntax below:
 
update T418 set C535478792 = '$Secondary email$' where  C1 = '$Case ID+$';
update T418 set C535478792 = "$Secondary email$" where C1 = "$Case  ID+$";
 
update T418 set C535478792 = $Secondary email$ where C1 = $Case ID+$;
 

ARERR [552] Failure during SQL operation to the database : ORA-00911:  
invalid character

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Re: SQL Syntax

2006-09-07 Thread Frank Caruso
**
Not sure where you ar running this from - Remedy, oracle, sqlplus... but it is complaining about the semi-colon. If you are in Remedy I think you can remove it.On 9/7/06, 
Koyb P. Liabt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,I am trying to pass a value into a field on HPD:Helpdesk, and make  sure itonly updates the current record open.  I met with the dba,  referenced databaseguide, and I have this command below, however I am getting  failure during
SQL operation - invalid character.Does anybody know what is wrong with the syntax below:update T418 set C535478792 = '$Secondary email$' where  C1 = '$Case ID+$';update T418 set C535478792 = "$Secondary email$" where C1 = "$Case  ID+$";
update T418 set C535478792 = $Secondary email$ where C1 = $Case ID+$;ARERR [552] Failure during SQL operation to the database : ORA-00911:invalid character-Forwarded Message:
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SQL Syntax

2006-09-07 Thread Koyb P. Liabt
Hi,
 
I am trying to pass a value into a field on HPD:Helpdesk, and make  sure it 
only updates the current record open.  I met with the dba,  referenced database 
guide, and I have this command below, however I am getting  failure during 
SQL operation - invalid character.
 
Does anybody know what is wrong with the syntax below:
 
update T418 set C535478792 = '$Secondary email$' where  C1 = '$Case ID+$';
update T418 set C535478792 = "$Secondary email$" where C1 = "$Case  ID+$";
 
update T418 set C535478792 = $Secondary email$ where C1 = $Case ID+$;
 

ARERR [552] Failure during SQL operation to the database : ORA-00911:  
invalid character

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Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   Reply-to: 

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Re: SOLVED: Oddity with Submitter field in e-mail notifications

2006-09-07 Thread McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Rick:
 
Glad you found this problem.  May all of your future endevours be much
easier.  BTW, the Submiited by field (field id 2) is what Remedy will look
at to see who the submitter really was.
 
James McKenzie
 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 6:14 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: SOLVED: Oddity with Submitter field in e-mail notifications


** 
Eureka! I discovered that the "Create New Ticket" button on our help desk
splash screen is calling a macro named OpenNewTicketHD and embedded in that
macro is "536870928=Demo" where that field number is that of the Submitter
field. That is a piece of workflow that I inherited and didn't know about
until just now.
 
I can't for the life of me understand why Demo was hard-coded in the macro;
when I ran a test on the dev server opening a new ticket with that button it
set Submitter to Demo and a field called Submitted By to my username.
 
I know that I can write brand-new workflow for the button to open a new
ticket (all it does is open the HD form in submit mode and pre-populate a
couple of fields) so that is likely going to be my long term solution. For
the short-term I will just change my notification e-mail to send the
Submitted By field instead of Submitter.
 
 
Thanks to everyone who made suggestions, I will definitely remember them for
future troubleshooting of other issues.
 
 
-Rick

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From: Rick Westbrock 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:53 PM
To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
Subject: RE: Oddity with Submitter field in e-mail notifications


I spoke too soon in my previous message. The Demo user was removed some time
in the past. I have exported all related objects to my form and I'm going
through the def file now to look for instances of Demo.
 
 
-Rick

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC
HQISEC/L3
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:25 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Oddity with Submitter field in e-mail notifications


** 

Rick: 
  
I would not delete this user, but rather rename it to see if the problem
moves with this user.  Also, some legacy software depend on the existance of
user id #1.


James McKenzie 
L-3 GSI 

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG  ] On Behalf Of Rick
Westbrock 
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:22 PM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: Oddity with Submitter field in e-mail notifications 


** 
Excellent idea on checking the deffile, I'll try that next. I may also  have
to have some users turn on logging (I normally have all logging off for
normal users).


The Demo user was still there when I took over as Remedy Admin several years
ago and is still the Owner of many, many objects. Will it break any objects
owned by Demo if I delete that user?


  
-Rick 

 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: Oddity with Submitter field in e-mail notifications 


** 
Don't really understart this, Demo came with the startpacket, as soon
admin-accounts have been created in the userform, ok to delete Demo.

I guess Demo has been free for a while, active, so Demo is in field
'Submitter',  'Changed by' and ... 
  
Your wf reads the submitterfield, an 199 of 200 has real names Not Demo 
  
In our appl Demo is a non existing name since long time. 
  
Some wf setting DEMO sometimes? Submitter-mode set to locked? It means you
are not allowed to 
chanhe the data to get rid of it finally. Possible to switch and then set
locked again? (If you need to change field 
 'Cretaed' 
  
Often when a form is saved as, a lot of data is tranfered to the new form, I
try to replace Demo as Owner to something else.

The same with helptext 
  
And Check if there are type Defaulvaues using Demo. 
  
Why not search in the deffile for Demo? and change Owner = "Demo" 
  
Turn on logging to see if that can give something. 
  
Good Luck! 
  
L asr 
  
  

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Re: Install of 7.0

2006-09-07 Thread Pam Hollis
Title: RE: Install of 7.0
**


**









Yes it is registered with portmatpper.

 



Pam Hollis

Senior Programmer - Remedy

Tractor Supply Company

(615 )366-4617 (telephone)

(615) 277-4617 (fax)



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From: Action Request System
discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC
HQISEC/L3
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006
10:03 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Install of 7.0

 

Pam: 

Is your server registered with portmapper
functionality? If not, I think there is a parameter that allows you to pass the
TCP port used by ARS.

James Mckenzie 
  

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From: Action Request System
discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]
On Behalf Of Pam Hollis 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006
7:59 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

Subject: Re: Install of 7.0


This will not work at this time - I am actually getting
a RPC bind failure message. 

Pam Hollis 
Senior Programmer - Remedy

Tractor Supply Company

(615 )366-4617 (telephone)

(615) 277-4617 (fax) 

-Original Message- 
From: Action Request System
discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]
On Behalf Of Luke, Brian 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006
4:07 PM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

Subject: Re: Install of 7.0


Find where arcache is located and run: 

arcache -Ua -e001 -lw 1 -nDemo -pDemo
-s`hostname` -g1; -d 

This should allow you to log in as Demo/Demo.


Once you log in go directly to the User form and fix
the Demo account the way you want it.  When you save it the server will
recache with the credentials you entered and Demo/Demo will become immediately
invalid (if you changed it).

-Brian Luke 

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discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]
On Behalf Of Pam Hollis 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006
1:30 PM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

Subject: Install of 7.0


I have began the process of installing ARSystem
7.0.  This is a fresh install on a new box.  Linux - Oracle 10g


Everything installed cleaned and successfully - I have
bounced the server and everything is up and running.  But, I am unable to
login to the User Tool as Demo.

Any suggestions. 



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Re: Escalation reminder every X hours

2006-09-07 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
We do something similar.   What we do is on Create of a ticket we push
to a table called "Pending Notifications".  On any Modify of the ticket
we first delete any related records from the Pending Notifications (This
allows us to create any additional ones we need).

We run the Escalation against the Pending Notifications table to send
the emails.  This way the Ticket is not touched so the Last Modify info
is left alone.

Fred

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Escalation reminder every X hours

Hello Listers,

Congrats to the ARSlist Award winners.

ARS 6.3
MS SQL Server 2000
Midtier 6.3
Homegrown Helpdesk forms

Just as a sanity check I thought I would ask if anyone has a good
process for "send out an email notification every X hours if the ticket
is still at a status of New"?

After the obvious failure of setting the escalation time to 2 Hrs (
Ticket entered 1 second after Esc doesn't go out in email for 3 hrs 59
minutes 59 seconds) I decided to put a field on the HD form that will be
populated with create time + 2 hrs.
The escalation will run every 5 or 10 minutes and check the escalation
time stored on create. It will increase the escalation time by 2 hours
if the status is still New.
The Run If will be 'ESC_Time' < $TIMESTAMP$ AND Status = "New"

The reason I am running this by the List is that I wanted to know if
there was a slicker way to do this.
Anyone? . . . Bueller? Bueller?

Thanks,
John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
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Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 
 

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Re: Install of 7.0

2006-09-07 Thread McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC HQISEC/L3
Title: RE: Install of 7.0
**





Pam:


Is your server registered with portmapper functionality? If not, I think there is a parameter that allows you to pass the TCP port used by ARS.

James Mckenzie
 


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pam Hollis
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:59 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Install of 7.0


This will not work at this time - I am actually getting a RPC bind failure message.


Pam Hollis
Senior Programmer - Remedy
Tractor Supply Company
(615 )366-4617 (telephone)
(615) 277-4617 (fax)


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Luke, Brian
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:07 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Install of 7.0


Find where arcache is located and run:


arcache -Ua -e001 -lw 1 -nDemo -pDemo -s`hostname` -g1; -d 


This should allow you to log in as Demo/Demo.


Once you log in go directly to the User form and fix the Demo account the way you want it.  When you save it the server will recache with the credentials you entered and Demo/Demo will become immediately invalid (if you changed it).

-Brian Luke


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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pam Hollis
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 1:30 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Install of 7.0


I have began the process of installing ARSystem 7.0.  This is a fresh install on a new box.  Linux - Oracle 10g


Everything installed cleaned and successfully - I have bounced the server and everything is up and running.  But, I am unable to login to the User Tool as Demo.

Any suggestions.



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Re: Install of 7.0

2006-09-07 Thread Pam Hollis
This will not work at this time - I am actually getting a RPC bind
failure message.

Pam Hollis
Senior Programmer - Remedy
Tractor Supply Company
(615 )366-4617 (telephone)
(615) 277-4617 (fax)

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke, Brian
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:07 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Install of 7.0

Find where arcache is located and run:

arcache -Ua -e001 -lw 1 -nDemo -pDemo -s`hostname` -g1; -d 

This should allow you to log in as Demo/Demo.

Once you log in go directly to the User form and fix the Demo account
the way you want it.  When you save it the server will recache with the
credentials you entered and Demo/Demo will become immediately invalid
(if you changed it).

-Brian Luke

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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 1:30 PM
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Subject: Install of 7.0

I have began the process of installing ARSystem 7.0.  This is a fresh
install on a new box.  Linux - Oracle 10g

Everything installed cleaned and successfully - I have bounced the
server and everything is up and running.  But, I am unable to login to
the User Tool as Demo.

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Re: Escalation reminder every X hours

2006-09-07 Thread Eric Roys
John, 

Remember, that escalations by nature are singled threaded. If you can adjust
the workflow to utilize filters for the bulk of the processing you will be
much better off since they are by nature, multi-threaded. For example, if
your HD form has 1/2 mil or a mil+ records, running escalation(s) against it
can be intensive in a single thread. Even Remedy moved away from utilizing
hundreds of escalations for their ITSM apps in favor of a more filter driven
process. Just something to consider.


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Subject: Escalation reminder every X hours

Hello Listers,

Congrats to the ARSlist Award winners.

ARS 6.3
MS SQL Server 2000
Midtier 6.3
Homegrown Helpdesk forms

Just as a sanity check I thought I would ask if anyone has a good process
for "send out an email notification every X hours if the ticket is still at
a status of New"?

After the obvious failure of setting the escalation time to 2 Hrs ( Ticket
entered 1 second after Esc doesn't go out in email for 3 hrs 59 minutes 59
seconds) I decided to put a field on the HD form that will be populated with
create time + 2 hrs.
The escalation will run every 5 or 10 minutes and check the escalation time
stored on create. It will increase the escalation time by 2 hours if the
status is still New.
The Run If will be 'ESC_Time' < $TIMESTAMP$ AND Status = "New"

The reason I am running this by the List is that I wanted to know if there
was a slicker way to do this.
Anyone? . . . Bueller? Bueller?

Thanks,
John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
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Re: Escalation reminder every X hours

2006-09-07 Thread Reiser, John J
Carey,
Oh how I wish I could. The customer is not that flexible. I wanted to
give them a "round-robin" type of escalation but they would rather have
a new ticket notify 8 people and if no one handles the ticket, notify
them again, every 2 hours. Since this is a featherweight HD that may
mean 5 - 10 tickets a day. Out of those it may be 1 a week that lingers
for the 2 hours. That's too many in my book but acceptable for this
customer. As long as they can beat a 4 hour response time.
Thanks,


John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:26 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Escalation reminder every X hours

John,

Personally, I would push the business to decide what should happen
instead of sending an email.
Like:
  Auto assigning to the main Help Desk
  Auto assigning to 'Submitted by'
  Auto assigning to 'Submitted by's Manager
  And MAYBE doing some email too. (or let you assignment emails do that
task)

But the point is that you do not want to let an issue get "stuck". You
want it to progress through the process. So whatever you do should make
sure that the same issue will not be "found again later".

--
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Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



On 9/7/06, Reiser, John J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Listers,
>
> Congrats to the ARSlist Award winners.
>
> ARS 6.3
> MS SQL Server 2000
> Midtier 6.3
> Homegrown Helpdesk forms
>
> Just as a sanity check I thought I would ask if anyone has a good 
> process for "send out an email notification every X hours if the 
> ticket is still at a status of New"?
>
> After the obvious failure of setting the escalation time to 2 Hrs ( 
> Ticket entered 1 second after Esc doesn't go out in email for 3 hrs 59

> minutes 59 seconds) I decided to put a field on the HD form that will 
> be populated with create time + 2 hrs.
> The escalation will run every 5 or 10 minutes and check the escalation

> time stored on create. It will increase the escalation time by 2 hours

> if the status is still New.
> The Run If will be 'ESC_Time' < $TIMESTAMP$ AND Status = "New"
>
> The reason I am running this by the List is that I wanted to know if 
> there was a slicker way to do this.
> Anyone? . . . Bueller? Bueller?
>
> Thanks,
> John J. Reiser
> Software Development Analyst
> Remedy Administrator/Developer
> Lockheed Martin - MS2
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> Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - 
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Re: Escalation reminder every X hours

2006-09-07 Thread Carey Matthew Black

John,

Personally, I would push the business to decide what should happen
instead of sending an email.
Like:
 Auto assigning to the main Help Desk
 Auto assigning to 'Submitted by'
 Auto assigning to 'Submitted by's Manager
 And MAYBE doing some email too. (or let you assignment emails do that task)

But the point is that you do not want to let an issue get "stuck". You
want it to progress through the process. So whatever you do should
make sure that the same issue will not be "found again later".

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



On 9/7/06, Reiser, John J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello Listers,

Congrats to the ARSlist Award winners.

ARS 6.3
MS SQL Server 2000
Midtier 6.3
Homegrown Helpdesk forms

Just as a sanity check I thought I would ask if anyone has a good
process for "send out an email notification every X hours if the ticket
is still at a status of New"?

After the obvious failure of setting the escalation time to 2 Hrs (
Ticket entered 1 second after Esc doesn't go out in email for 3 hrs 59
minutes 59 seconds) I decided to put a field on the HD form that will be
populated with create time + 2 hrs.
The escalation will run every 5 or 10 minutes and check the escalation
time stored on create. It will increase the escalation time by 2 hours
if the status is still New.
The Run If will be 'ESC_Time' < $TIMESTAMP$ AND Status = "New"

The reason I am running this by the List is that I wanted to know if
there was a slicker way to do this.
Anyone? . . . Bueller? Bueller?

Thanks,
John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
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by me


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Re: Escalation reminder every X hours

2006-09-07 Thread L. J. Head
That's just about the way I do that type of thingjust remember that
depending on your data you may want to make the status first in the query
assuming you have an index on status...any maybe add an index on ESC_Time
just to ensure your escalation isn't hitting the DB too hard 


L. J. Head
Software Engineer
Remedy Approved Consultant
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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Escalation reminder every X hours

Hello Listers,

Congrats to the ARSlist Award winners.

ARS 6.3
MS SQL Server 2000
Midtier 6.3
Homegrown Helpdesk forms

Just as a sanity check I thought I would ask if anyone has a good process
for "send out an email notification every X hours if the ticket is still at
a status of New"?

After the obvious failure of setting the escalation time to 2 Hrs ( Ticket
entered 1 second after Esc doesn't go out in email for 3 hrs 59 minutes 59
seconds) I decided to put a field on the HD form that will be populated with
create time + 2 hrs.
The escalation will run every 5 or 10 minutes and check the escalation time
stored on create. It will increase the escalation time by 2 hours if the
status is still New.
The Run If will be 'ESC_Time' < $TIMESTAMP$ AND Status = "New"

The reason I am running this by the List is that I wanted to know if there
was a slicker way to do this.
Anyone? . . . Bueller? Bueller?

Thanks,
John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
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me 
 


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Escalation reminder every X hours

2006-09-07 Thread Reiser, John J
Hello Listers,

Congrats to the ARSlist Award winners.

ARS 6.3
MS SQL Server 2000
Midtier 6.3
Homegrown Helpdesk forms

Just as a sanity check I thought I would ask if anyone has a good
process for "send out an email notification every X hours if the ticket
is still at a status of New"?

After the obvious failure of setting the escalation time to 2 Hrs (
Ticket entered 1 second after Esc doesn't go out in email for 3 hrs 59
minutes 59 seconds) I decided to put a field on the HD form that will be
populated with create time + 2 hrs.
The escalation will run every 5 or 10 minutes and check the escalation
time stored on create. It will increase the escalation time by 2 hours
if the status is still New.
The Run If will be 'ESC_Time' < $TIMESTAMP$ AND Status = "New"

The reason I am running this by the List is that I wanted to know if
there was a slicker way to do this.
Anyone? . . . Bueller? Bueller?

Thanks,
John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 
 

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Re: SOLVED: Oddity with Submitter field in e-mail notifications

2006-09-07 Thread Axton

More than likely the macro was recorded as the user Demo.

Axton Grams

On 9/6/06, Rick Westbrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

**
Eureka! I discovered that the "Create New Ticket" button on our help desk
splash screen is calling a macro named OpenNewTicketHD and embedded in that
macro is "536870928=Demo" where that field number is that of the Submitter
field. That is a piece of workflow that I inherited and didn't know about
until just now.

I can't for the life of me understand why Demo was hard-coded in the macro;
when I ran a test on the dev server opening a new ticket with that button it
set Submitter to Demo and a field called Submitted By to my username.

I know that I can write brand-new workflow for the button to open a new
ticket (all it does is open the HD form in submit mode and pre-populate a
couple of fields) so that is likely going to be my long term solution. For
the short-term I will just change my notification e-mail to send the
Submitted By field instead of Submitter.


Thanks to everyone who made suggestions, I will definitely remember them for
future troubleshooting of other issues.


-Rick

From: Rick Westbrock
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:53 PM
To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
Subject: RE: Oddity with Submitter field in e-mail notifications


I spoke too soon in my previous message. The Demo user was removed some time
in the past. I have exported all related objects to my form and I'm going
through the def file now to look for instances of Demo.


-Rick

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKenzie, James J C-E LCMC
HQISEC/L3
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:25 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Oddity with Submitter field in e-mail notifications

**

Rick:

I would not delete this user, but rather rename it to see if the problem
moves with this user.  Also, some legacy software depend on the existance of
user id #1.


James McKenzie
L-3 GSI



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Westbrock
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:22 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Oddity with Submitter field in e-mail notifications


**
Excellent idea on checking the deffile, I'll try that next. I may also  have
to have some users turn on logging (I normally have all logging off for
normal users).


The Demo user was still there when I took over as Remedy Admin several years
ago and is still the Owner of many, many objects. Will it break any objects
owned by Demo if I delete that user?



-Rick



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 3:53 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Oddity with Submitter field in e-mail notifications


**
Don't really understart this, Demo came with the startpacket, as soon
admin-accounts have been created in the userform, ok to delete Demo.

I guess Demo has been free for a while, active, so Demo is in field
'Submitter',  'Changed by' and ...

Your wf reads the submitterfield, an 199 of 200 has real names Not Demo

In our appl Demo is a non existing name since long time.

Some wf setting DEMO sometimes? Submitter-mode set to locked? It means you
are not allowed to
chanhe the data to get rid of it finally. Possible to switch and then set
locked again? (If you need to change field
 'Cretaed'

Often when a form is saved as, a lot of data is tranfered to the new form, I
try to replace Demo as Owner to something else.

The same with helptext

And Check if there are type Defaulvaues using Demo.

Why not search in the deffile for Demo? and change Owner = "Demo"

Turn on logging to see if that can give something.

Good Luck!

L asr



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Westbrock
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:01 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Oddity with Submitter field in e-mail notifications


**

I'm running 5.1.2 on Windows 2000, MS-SQL 2000 and I'm seeing
inconsistent results from a notification e-mail that is sent by a filter.
The filter fires on Submit and one of the fields in the body of the e-mail
is set to Submitter. Most of the time it populates the correct user name but
I've now seen a couple e-mails go out with Demo as the username.

When I check that ticket I see the correct username in the status
history and work log so I'm puzzled as to why it would substitute Demo at
all. The frustrating part is that I have two e-mails sent within ten minutes
of each other and one shows the correct user name and the other shows Demo
for the Submitter field.

Any clues as to why this might happen?


-Rick __20060125___This p

Active Link Log <=Ô

2006-09-07 Thread Randy Simon

On the set fields to NULL link, most look like this, field  = " "

In a multiple set fields I sometimes see, field <== " "

What does the <== mean?

Randy Simon
Remedy Admin
Online Resources Corporation
Chantilly, VA 20151




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Re: Business Hours tag - Dynamic reference to group tags

2006-09-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Resolved:  There is an out of box feature that enables leverage of
zTmpBusinessHrs tag on application form.  Response from Remedy Support
below:

Assuming you are using SLA 5.5, 5.6, or 6.0, or the version that was
just released, SLM version 7.0 - then there is a feature of the
application that allows you to take the Business Time tags from a field
on the request itself.   When you register the application form in
Configuration Manager, in the "Configure SLA Application Form"step, you
can specify the 'Field containing Business Hours' - to specify a
particular field on the form that contains the Business Hours tag to
use.  (The location of this configuration step has changed among the
versions, so if you have trouble finding it, please let me know you
version of the Service Level Agreements application, from the
SHARE:Application_Properties form and I can be more specific).

This feature lets you get the business hours tag from a field on the
ticket form.   You may or may not need to perform customization to
populate that field, but that is at least a simpler customization and
does not require customization of the SLA/SLM application.

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Re: Integrating Remedy with Outlook

2006-09-07 Thread Rodney Harris
**








Hi Dan,

 

Had a quick look at your program and I
like it. I wouldn’t mind taking a look at the multiple data sources
version as this will allow us to run Outlook on the server and keep a whole group
of users in sync without any config on their end. We were intending to start
with calendar sync anyway so the lack of contacts is something we can add
later.  A config file for the multi data source version might be the way to go too
as I wouldn’t want to be typing heaps of stuff in each time Outlook
started.

 

Yes – I like the fact that it is
free. Perhaps I can contribute to the project in return.

 

Good stuff!!

 

Rod

 

CMS Asset Solutions

Level 10, 23-25
  O’Connell Street

Sydney Australia

 

 

 









From:
Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]
On Behalf Of Dan Hardy
Sent: Thursday, 7 September 2006
4:06 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Integrating Remedy
with Outlook



 





 





You might look at:





 





http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/roi





 





It doesn't do anything with contacts...but it synchronizes
tasks and/or calendar.  And it's free.  And open source.  And
free.  And you could easily tweak it do contacts as well (provided you
know a little C++/STL/ATL and are able to muck about with Outlooks' API).





 





I have an update coded locally that allows you to
synchronize multiple data sources (any number of source for tasks and/or
calendar).  It currently lacks a fancy UI for configuration of multiple
sources, but takes a straightforward XML config file.  If there is
interestI'll get around to checking it in and putting a new build up for
download.





 





Did I mention it's free?





 





Dan







 







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Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Rodney Harris
Sent: Wed 9/6/2006 7:24 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Integrating Remedy with
Outlook





** 

Hi All,

 

I’m looking at using a product called Genius Connect
(or similar) to link our custom Remedy V7 CRM system to Outlook. The
functionality we require is the ability for our sales force to use Outlook as
their contact list, calendar and task list while retaining compatibility with
our CRM. Has anyone done anything like this? 

 

This is how I’m planning to do it.

 

1. When the user has an internet connection, Outlook
synchronises with the Exchange server via HTTP or straight IP. The users use
the offline cache feature of Outlook to retain access to their data when not
connected.

2. A server runs Outlook with Genius connect installed and
connects to each mailbox that we want synchronised. Periodically Genius Connect
synchronises the Outlook mailboxes with an SQL database on the same server as
our Remedy database via ODBC. 

3. The Remedy server runs escalations that read and write to
the intermediate SQL server tables. The intermediate tables allow for date
conversions and allow Remedy to retain full control of its database. Remedy can
read from the SQL tables via View Forms and write to them via direct SQL.

 

Is there a better way than this to do what we want? Has
anyone done anything similar and would they share their experiences with me? 

 

Thanks,

 

Rod Harris

CMS Asset Solutions

Level 10, 23-25
  O’Connell Street

Sydney Australia








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Re: AL stopped working (no changes on AL)

2006-09-07 Thread George Barsan

Hi David,

I removed all fields from the set field and added them one by one..
The one causing the problem is the field SelectionCriteria which I use
later on as external qualification for the open window. The strange
thing is that it stopps not only the open-win AL firing next, it
blocks all open-win AL's running behind that form (even though it
doesn't run there)...

I tried the following combinations for SelectionCriteria:
 "( $NumericCaseID$ = 'NumericCaseID')"  // as used in another AL and
working fine there
 "$NumericCaseID$ = 'NumericCaseID'"
 "$NumericCaseID$ = 1"
 "'NumericCaseID' = 1"
 1 = 1
 1 = 2

None of them worked: the AL processing stops as described without any
error message.

Please also note that if I change the qualification to something
invalid (i.e. "$NumericCaseID$ = 'XXNumericCaseID'" or
"$XXNumericCaseID$ = 'NumericCaseID'" ARS correctly shows me a "There
was a problem expanding the EXTERNAL qualification" error message).

"If no requests match" is set to default message.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated..

Many thanks,

George



On 9/6/06, David Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi George

Is the set fields action before the window open building a qualification for
the report?  What are your settings in the open window to report action in
the No Requests Match area?  If your qualification returns no matching
records and you have your options set to 'Do Not Show Any message' and
'Suppress empty list', then the report window will just not open.

Try setting the No Match options to 'Show Default Message' and see if that
gives any clues.

HTH

David Sanders
Remedy Solution Architect
Enterprise Service Suite @ Work
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Barsan
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 5:17 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: AL stopped working (no changes on AL)

No, not yet - but I'm going to do that..

What I tried to do is to separate the actions from one large AL into 3
smaller ones. The funny thing is, that I ended up with an
open-window-AL (let's call it ReportInternal), for which I have a
handy def file and it works fine. However, I need a set fields action
running in front of it. I had two ideas:

1) I tried to add it to the ReportInternal-AL => open window fails
2) I tried to create a separate AL (called GetReportData) running with
a lower order => open window fails

Importing GetReportData-AL messes up all open window actions even in
other AL behind that form, although they are running on totally
different conditions. As soon as I delete the AL GetReportData, the
open window actions are working again..

Next, I exported both AL's as XML and copy & pasted the missing set
field action in an editor and import the new XML.. Same result => open
window fails :(

I guess that there is a relationship between the set-field and the
open window action... However, I've ran out of ideas..

George

On 9/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> George, have you checked the .arf files in the Home Folder on the clients,
contains the al defintions I know, maybe a difference when the al is not is
working and when it is working? Something corrupt in the arf file? /L ars
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of George Barsan
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:53 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: AL stopped working (no changes on AL)
>
>
> Hello Joe,
>
> Yep, the group names and ID's are equal.. We used a DB dump and
> re-import to duplicate production to dev and only removed customer
> related data (names, addresses & co)..
>
> George
>
>
> On 9/6/06, Joe DeSouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > **
> >
> >
> > Very basic question... Have you checked if the permission groups on both
the
> > dev and prod instances are identical - both group names and their ID's
> > should be the same...
> >
> > Joe D'Souza
> > Remedy Developer / Consultant,
> > BearingPoint,
> > Virginia.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message 
> > From: "Kemes, Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2006 9:15:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: AL stopped working (no changes on AL)
> >
> >
> > I had an AL just stop working all of the sudden and what I had to do was
> > delete it and then re-import the AL from the Prod server.  Sometimes
> > AL's get corrupted.  Now my AL has no more problems on my Dev server
> >
> > If this does not work, at least it only takes a couple of minutes to
> > do
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nyall McC

Flashboard Pie Chart Data Overlap

2006-09-07 Thread Reggie H
Hello ARSListers,

I'm currently running:

ARS 6.3
Flashboards 6.3
Windows Server 2003
MS SQL w/ SP3a

I have a pie chart that displays the total number of tickets after a certain
date and breaks it down by status.  The problem is the date displayed is
overlapping.  Does anyone have any suggestions to correct this?
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