[AsburyPark] New businesses

[MarioAPNJ]

Sounds good.  Anyone have additional details?  
Dean and DeLuca?  Faccio's? Balducci's born again?
Nino's or Sal's Deli models also great models.  
 
"Four new businesses are coming to Asbury Park: a new clothing store  
(dresses), a construction supply company, an audio/visual design and  
instillation 
business, and an Italian market. Stay tuned!"
 
From:
 
 
  Greetings from Asbury  Park:   
They keep telling me that summer's over but I just  can't let go yet. For 
some reason, Mother Nature also doesn't want  it to end. OK, I submit. It's 
raining and 64. This was just the best  summer. Wait till next year! 
The city is hosting its annual fall citywide cleanup  this Saturday from 9 AM 
to 1 PM. Meet at the City Hall Council  Chambers. Call Lori Ross at 
732.502.5727 or Rosetta Johnson at  732.502.4584 for details. 
On Saturday, the Asbury Park Citizens on Patrol will  hold a Flea Market from 
9 AM to 4 PM in Sunset Park. This is a  fundraiser for the organization and 
proceeds will assist the  volunteer group to buy equipment and supplies. This 
is a great group  of men and women who provide a very valuable service to the 
city.  Call Asbury Park Detective Connie Breech at 732.502.5777 or Lawson  June 
at 732.988.3269 for info. Rain date is Oct.  20th. 
Although only five years old, this weekend marks  another of Asbury Park's 
fun and important traditions: The  5th Annual Asbury Park Mayor's Ball; "The 
Children Are  Our Future." This fundraiser supports Mayor Kevin Sanders'  
initiative for education, arts and recreation for the youth of  Asbury Park. 
The gala 
takes place on Saturday evening at the  Berkeley Hotel. This is a time to 
dress up, raise some money, have  fun but most importantly, provide 
opportunities 
for a very talented  and wonderful group of young city residents. These 
children are our  future and the future looks very bright! Stay tuned!  
Our new mounted police patrol was introduced at  First Saturday last weekend 
and was a major hit. The city earned  major press and radio coverage. The 
horses are named Bold Ruler and  Guinness and are quite the sight trotting down 
the street. They wear  special studded horseshoes so they don't slip on the 
payment. Both  horses were donated and live at a private farm in Wall Township 
at  
no cost to the city. A very special thanks to the Newark Police  Department 
who trained the horses and officers. Wilbur! 
Speaking of major coverage, I hope you all caught  Bruce Springsteen's 
interview on "60 Minutes" last Sunday. There was  major footage of the E Street 
Band's rehearsals and the concerts  that took place in Convention Hall. I've 
spent 
a great deal of time  listening to the new CD (not an album - I'm making 
progress) and  personally think this is some of Bruce's best work. "I got a 
coin 
in  my palm, I can make it disappear." - Magic! 
We all know Asbury Park is a magnet for artists and  two authors are on the 
radar this month. Stephen Crane who lived in  the city on Fourth Avenue is the 
subject of a fascinating  documentary, Greetings from Stephen Crane: The 
Asbury Tales,  being filmed and produced by Susan Pellegrini. I met Susan a 
couple  
of weeks ago and she is one talented filmmaker. Patti and I  witnessed Susan 
in action, as her camera captured the final day  celebration at the Wonder 
Bar. "The Red Gala" a launch party to  introduce Susan and the project will be 
held Oct. 20th. To get more  details about the launch party call Michael Heath 
at 732.299.6930 or  Amanda Gavarny at 848.219.5727. This event is sponsored by 
Perfect  Vodka and Madison Marquette. And, a special ceremony marking the  
anniversary of Jack Kerouac's death will take place at Americas' Cup  on Sun, 
Oct. 21. Kerouac and his first wife, Edie, spent some time  in the early 40's 
living at her grandmother's house on Sixth Avenue.  After the marriage ended, 
Jack headed out and "On The Road" has  fascinated and influenced every reader. 
Stay tuned! 
Hillary Duff and the crew of Whitewater Films'  "Greta" have left he city for 
a couple of weeks but will return  later in the month. The film was written 
by Michael Gilvary who grew  up in Fair Haven and also stars Evan Ross, Diana 
Ross' son and Ellen  Burstyn. The Paramount Theatre would be the logical venue 
for the  premiere. Anyone know what we did with the red carpet? Very  cool! 
Four new businesses are coming to Asbury Park: a new  clothing store 
(dresses), a construction supply company, an  audio/visual design and 
instillation 
business, and an Italian  market. Stay tuned! 
Thanks for all the great birthday wishes. Patti  treated me to a very 
romantic dinner at Moonstruck on Friday  evening. We haven't been there in 
quite a 
while but it was just as  special as our first visit. Howard and Luke are the 
best. I also got  to spend some time with daughter, Linnea and son-in-law 
Alonso 
and  my in-laws, Gig and Bob Ayling. We celebrated my birthday for three  
days straight. Good thin

[AsburyPark] Re: Celebrate New Jersey, Redux

[Mario]

In a message dated 10/11/2007 7:12:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: aptly put by someone tagged Machinegun Message
Mario. No,...the words are Shakespeare's.   You chose to call me a
"clown" for my appreciation of life in New Jeresy, and for not parroting
your complaints about it.   I responded with Feste's words, "the fellow
wise enough to play the fool."BTW: Who is the unnamed "wise elder"
whose words you failed to attribute, but which you applied to me as one
whose "death" will be appropriate to one who  "celebrates a dieing [sic]
thing"?[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  One thing was proven, in your
absence it was peaceful here.  LOL Feste the Clown:   "Truly, sir, and
pleasure will be paid, one time or anotherAnd thus the whirligig of
time brings in his [responses]."
In a message dated
10/11/2007 7:12:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
aptly put by someone tagged Machinegun Message Mario.
I guess the political experiment failed and you have decided to
decend upon the good posters here.

One thing was proven, in your absence it was peaceful here.

LOL

a fossor insania
KB
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com 
, "Mario" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Feste the Clown: He is but mad yet, madonna; and the fool shall
look
> to the madman. …But indeed words are very rascals since bonds
> disgraced them.
> Viola. Thy reason, man? Feste the
> Clown. Troth, sir, I can yield you none without words; and
> words are grown so false, I am loath to prove reason with them.
> Viola. This fellow is wise enough to
play
> the fool; And to do that well craves a kind of wit:…This is a
> practise As full of labour as a wise man's art
> For folly that he wisely shows is fit; But wise men, folly-fall'n,
quite
> taint their wit. "Twelfth Night"
> = In a message dated
> 10/11/2007 4:18:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com  
 ,
> MarioAPNJ@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 10/11/2007 11:30:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > jerseykev@ writes:
> >
> > May God have mercy on New Jersey.
> >
> > I Celebrate New Jersey:

[AsburyPark] Re: Stoner: "It's Make-Believe Ballroom Time"

[2fine4u]

The pleasure is all mine!  This think-tank of a group, is a real
world, eye-opener!  I leave myself, wide open, because I genuinely
believe and dream a world, where everyone lives in a town, called
"Perfect"!

I just finished reading about what kids really do now, and I see them
evolving into "wide loads", if you know what I mean!  As much as I
love the grandkids, I can't wait for them to leave, so that I can run
this "disk-cleaner", that wipes face-book and those other "wierd"
sites and their "cookies", OFF of my hard drive and if I hear "Soulja
Boy", ONE more time, I'll RETCH!  Hinge:  JUST SAY NO!  You cracked me
up, because I know most of the young people who starred in "CLERKS"
and "MALL-RATS"!  Before the movies, I always thought they should have
been on Second City, or SNL!  Man, do the screen-play, no, write the
book, first!  I wasn't a perfect parent, none of us are, you know.

I learned as I went along and when I saw myself becoming my mother, I
did just the opposite!  It worked!  I never wanted to be a "MU-MU"
wearing mom!  My Grandma wore them and I hated the look!  Me?  I wear
the "I can wear you outdoors", pajamas!  They look like pantsuits,
except the waist is elasticized!  A modern version of the what? 
"MU-MU"! I look like I'm on my way to "yoga", class!  Oh man, teen
drinking, has been going on since Roman Times, I guess!

One afternoon, after being released from school, just after lunch,
instead of going home, I went to my friends, who were a set of
fraternal twins, home and into the basement we went, to play records
and what else?  DRINK!  Drinking for us, (16), was Creme de Cocoa,
Anisette or Creme de Menthe!  Cordials!  It's what "nice" girls drank
in polite company.  Drinking was part of my French Culture.  At 2
weeks old, at my christening, I was given a sip of "pink" Champagne!
I gave the same to my kids, at theirs!  Just to wet their lips!  It is
a tradition and wine served at meals were no big deal!

Here in NJ, I would NEVER do these things!  Now, I could land in jail!
 I'm talking about the mid-60's, when all this occurred.  My children
never had to "sneak" alcohol and when they reached "legal" age, here,
in NJ, didn't even bother with it.  We lived on a hill, that had
"hair-pin" turns, so no drinking and driving either!  I had heard of
too many cars, not making those curves, killing several people, up
there.  You only have to tell me once!

If we DO get the surveillance cameras, ALL crime will go down, so I
wonder just how relevant it is to the authorities?  Job security, you
know!  I saw the Mounties on patrol on Channel 4!  Yes, AP made the
nightly news and the 2 "Dobbins", were walking up Cookman Ave.  Now,
really!  What's the purpose?  Oh God, I feel the taser, already! 
Okay, enough!  With her eye-brows raised, she said, "COMMENTS"?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> Sharon, thank you.
>  
> Now that I've basked in that glow for an hour or so, it's time to
quickly  
> pass the baton to one of the others on your honor roll.  Zeus is
known  to throw 
> his thunderbolts  at mortals hanging out at  Club Olympus too long.
>  
> By Jove, grab it someone.
>  
> Sharon writes:
> 
> Frank  D, ...Hinge... Werner and Maureen...Dan and  short salespro, 
>  
> Tikkun Olam




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Follow The Leader

[2fine4u]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf"  wrote:
> >
> > --- and the armory is a perfect exmample. Purchased "right", lots of 
> > politics, lots of PRIVATE money supported by a person with
interests in 
> > the sport.
> >
> ===
> 
> And just think,
> 
> Asbury Park had Ron Berman, a developer from Trenton, with a track
> record of historic property rehab wanting to develop the Casino.
> 
> He owns a Minor League hockey team (Trenton Titans ?) and would have
> had them in play in the Casino Arena.
> 
> Lost opportunity because of Weldon's 'Dealing'
> 
> Werner
>
Werner,
The people in charge now, want everything their way!  I saw the arena,
wehn it was a hole in the ground!  Met the mayor of Trenton and had a
great time.  Trenton is thriving, Jersey City is thriving, Asbury
Park; holding on, for dear life!



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation

[dfsavgny]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How many of you are "still" using a pc vs. a mac. 

pc since most programs including special ones are windows based. I
don't like either. don't use explorer or outlook express anymore. use
firefox and thunderbird, but some applications still require explorer.
someday soon it will all be open platforms (Linux) and less buggy.
That goes for mac too.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[rook782]

My dog is called Kicking Bird.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My dog is named Lakota!
> 




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[Hinge]

My dog is named Lakota!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson  
> wrote:
> >
> > Pier Village is a destination.  People go to grab dinner, walk, 
> shop etc.  The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a 
> lot of people.  Hard to say that about what was there before.  Allied 
> created a successful place out of a ruin.  You man not agree with 
> retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst 
> thing to happen.
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Hinge 
> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM
> > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review
> > 
> > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time.
> > I loved it.
> > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. 
> Not overly friendly, friendly 
> > with dignity.
> > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool.
> > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections.
> > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 
> people.
> > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to 
> perfection.
> > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent.
> > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. 
> > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved 
> it. Interestingly, they all 
> > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said 
> nothing.
> > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three 
> agreed that while Red Bank 
> > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the 
> restaraunts too expensive, and the 
> > lack of parking annoying.
> > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, 
> and we all agreed that it's the 
> > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time.
> 
> What was there before drew many more people, Kid's World and The Pier 
> were a bigger magnet than Pier Village.  You also didn't see the code 
> enforcement officer's ex felon defunct Police Officer working as a 
> manager where a liquor lisence was in the old days.  I also hear this 
> official's wife is also working there as well.
> 
> Pier Village was built while it's owner Joe Barry, was in Federal Pen 
> for bribing an elected official.  Now out making millions.
> 
> Pier Village is an embarrassment to Long Branchers. Unfortunately, 
> like wounded knee it may take close to a century to find out just how 
> unconstitutional it all really was.
> 
> To The Lakota Nation To pOletown and to those in Long Branch who 
> suffered.  ci' ami
> 
> Rafferty's should be a great success.
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[Kevin Brown]

collecting what?  They have abatements and our taxes just went up 
more than 150%.  It is an economic failure.
KB

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> All have the right to their opinion.  I just do find it fair to say 
it was the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled 
and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed.  I am not 
saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance and 
created a safe venue.  And the city of Long Branch is collecting on 
it.  
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
> 
> Hinge,
> 
> 
> You're far from alone in hating it.   Success or not, many people 
think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something 
right next to the beach.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote:
> 
> 
> I guess it's a matter of taste.
> I hate it with a passion.
> I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible.
> And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point 
close to my heart.
> In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of 
architecture becomes a 
> destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on 
without an overwhelming 
> ugly building to look at.
> And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that 
existed long before Pier 
> Village.
> In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong 
values.
> I will never view a shopping center as a destination.
> But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to 
shop when i'm bored.
> I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out.
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson  
wrote:
> >
> > Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, 
shop etc. The design is not 
> perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say 
that about what was there 
> before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man 
not agree with retail on
> the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to 
happen.
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Hinge 
> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM
> > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review
> > 
> > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time.
> > I loved it.
> > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really 
friendly. Not overly friendly, 
> friendly 
> > with dignity.
> > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool.
> > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections.
> > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 
people.
> > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to 
perfection.
> > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent.
> > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. 
> > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved 
it. Interestingly, they 
> all 
> > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said 
nothing.
> > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three 
agreed that while Red 
> Bank 
> > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the 
restaraunts too expensive, 
> and the 
> > lack of parking annoying.
> > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, 
and we all agreed that 
> it's the 
> > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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someone who knows. 
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> >
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[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[Kevin Brown]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Pier Village is a destination.  People go to grab dinner, walk, 
shop etc.  The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a 
lot of people.  Hard to say that about what was there before.  Allied 
created a successful place out of a ruin.  You man not agree with 
retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst 
thing to happen.
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review
> 
> So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time.
> I loved it.
> The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. 
Not overly friendly, friendly 
> with dignity.
> Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool.
> The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections.
> We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 
people.
> My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to 
perfection.
> For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent.
> Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. 
> Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved 
it. Interestingly, they all 
> began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said 
nothing.
> They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three 
agreed that while Red Bank 
> looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the 
restaraunts too expensive, and the 
> lack of parking annoying.
> When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, 
and we all agreed that it's the 
> worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time.

What was there before drew many more people, Kid's World and The Pier 
were a bigger magnet than Pier Village.  You also didn't see the code 
enforcement officer's ex felon defunct Police Officer working as a 
manager where a liquor lisence was in the old days.  I also hear this 
official's wife is also working there as well.

Pier Village was built while it's owner Joe Barry, was in Federal Pen 
for bribing an elected official.  Now out making millions.

Pier Village is an embarrassment to Long Branchers. Unfortunately, 
like wounded knee it may take close to a century to find out just how 
unconstitutional it all really was.

To The Lakota Nation To pOletown and to those in Long Branch who 
suffered.  ci' ami

Rafferty's should be a great success.



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Bullets strike house, garage in Asbury Park

[Hinge]

Bump. This is important stuff. We need to put the pressure on.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok folks, read below carefully, and then think back to posts describing the 
> technology 
of 
> surveillence cameras installed in Newark and East Orange.
> These cameras have microphones on them that are directional, and can move the 
camera 
> to focus on the area where the gunshots originated.
> This time, nobody was hit.
> The police have no description. 
> The don't know where the shots were fired from.
> 8 spent shell casings. That could've been 8 dead people.
> Meanwhile, we have to wait for paperwork and bureacracy to go thru the 
> motions.
> And people outside of Asbury will start condemming us once again.
> 
> Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/11/07
> 
> BY MICHELLE SAHN
> 
>  Post Comment
> ASBURY PARK — Police are trying to determine if someone fired a gun randomly 
> or if 
that 
> person was deliberately aiming at two boys when bullets struck a house and a 
> garage on 
> Church Street early this morning.
> 
> No one was injured in the incident.
> 
> Around 1 a.m., at least one bullet struck a house on the 600 block of Church 
> Street and 
> four more struck a garage on the same property, said Capt. David Kelso.
> 
> He said police are trying to determine if the shooting was random or if two 
> boys who 
were 
> in the area at the time were the targets of the shooter.
> 
> Kelso said police believe the shooter was on the street - not in a vehicle - 
> but police 
have 
> no description of that person.
> 
> Police recovered eight spent shell casings, he said.
> 
> Anyone with information is asked to call Detective Sgt. Randall Hill or 
> Detective April 
Bird 
> at (732) 775-4025. Information can also be left anonymously on the 
> department's tip 
line 
> at 1-800-799-8280.
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[AsburyPark] Re: Celebrate New Jersey, Redux

[Kevin Brown]

aptly put by someone tagged Machinegun Message Mario.
I guess the political experiment failed and you have decided to 
decend upon the good posters here.

One thing was proven, in your absence it was peaceful here.

LOL

a fossor insania
KB
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Mario" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Feste the Clown:He is but mad yet, madonna; and the fool shall 
look
> to the madman. …But indeed words are very rascals since bonds
> disgraced them.
> Viola.Thy reason, man?Feste the
> Clown.   Troth, sir, I can yield you none without words; and
> words are grown so false, I am loath to prove reason with them.   
> Viola.This fellow is wise enough to 
play
> the fool; And to do that well craves a kind of wit:…This is a
> practise As full of labour as a wise man's art
> For folly that he wisely shows is fit; But wise men, folly-fall'n, 
quite
> taint their wit."Twelfth Night"
> = In a message dated
> 10/11/2007 4:18:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com  ,
> MarioAPNJ@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 10/11/2007 11:30:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > jerseykev@ writes:
> >
> > May God have mercy on New Jersey.
> >
> > I Celebrate New Jersey:
> >
> 
> A wise elder once said upon your death you will be in the Kingdom of
> whom you celebrate and venerate.
> 
> As for me and my house we will worship the Lord.
> 
> As for this clown, he will stay in New Jersey in his next life.
> 
> "He who celebrate a dieing thing shall die in it's celebration."
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Coaster Article About Regionalizing Asbury Park Fire Services With Others

[rook782]

Chief Keddy, Reidy and Bruno favor the move.  

This is great news.  We should all get behind this effort.   

Consolidating fire services is absolutely necessary for this city to do 
in order to right itself from the budget deficits.



 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Recreation

[Gary Wien]

Ditto over here as well.

Of course, I love my Mac a thousand times more than my PCs.  I only  
keep them to run certain pieces of software.


On Oct 11, 2007, at 6:41 PM, wernerapnj wrote:


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > Debbie,
> > I didn't know I had a sister!
> > I did virtually all the same things you did.
> > Your post brought back memories.
> >
>
> better all get out of our mid-life crisis real soon otherwise we'll
> be fighting over who gets an ocean view at Asbury Towers.
>
> How many of you are "still" using a pc vs. a mac.
>
=

Why choose? I've got both :-)

Werner

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation

[wernerapnj]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > Debbie,
> > I didn't know I had a sister!
> > I did virtually all the same things you did.
> > Your post brought back memories.
> >
> 
> better all get out of our mid-life crisis real soon otherwise we'll 
> be fighting over who gets an ocean view at Asbury Towers.
> 
> How many of you are "still" using a pc vs. a mac. 
> 
=

Why choose? I've got both :-)

Werner



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation

[Hinge]

Mac all the way

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > Debbie,
> > I didn't know I had a sister!
> > I did virtually all the same things you did.
> > Your post brought back memories.
> >
> 
> better all get out of our mid-life crisis real soon otherwise we'll 
> be fighting over who gets an ocean view at Asbury Towers.
> 
> How many of you are "still" using a pc vs. a mac. 
> 
> Took me a long time til one night I was at the apple store with my 
> daughter and she pointed at the pc guy on a poster and laughed.
> 
> Now I just need an "mac" computer case to carry it to work and I can 
> dump this old pc.
> 
> I should have the mud puddle picture tomorrow.
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation

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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Debbie,
> I didn't know I had a sister!
> I did virtually all the same things you did.
> Your post brought back memories.
>

better all get out of our mid-life crisis real soon otherwise we'll 
be fighting over who gets an ocean view at Asbury Towers.

How many of you are "still" using a pc vs. a mac. 

Took me a long time til one night I was at the apple store with my 
daughter and she pointed at the pc guy on a poster and laughed.

Now I just need an "mac" computer case to carry it to work and I can 
dump this old pc.

I should have the mud puddle picture tomorrow.
 



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Celebrate New Jersey, Redux

[Mario]

Feste the Clown:He is but mad yet, madonna; and the fool shall look
to the madman. …But indeed words are very rascals since bonds
disgraced them.
Viola.Thy reason, man?Feste the
Clown.   Troth, sir, I can yield you none without words; and
words are grown so false, I am loath to prove reason with them.   
Viola.This fellow is wise enough to play
the fool; And to do that well craves a kind of wit:…This is a
practise As full of labour as a wise man's art
For folly that he wisely shows is fit; But wise men, folly-fall'n, quite
taint their wit."Twelfth Night"
= In a message dated
10/11/2007 4:18:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com  ,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/11/2007 11:30:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> May God have mercy on New Jersey.
>
> I Celebrate New Jersey:
>

A wise elder once said upon your death you will be in the Kingdom of
whom you celebrate and venerate.

As for me and my house we will worship the Lord.

As for this clown, he will stay in New Jersey in his next life.

"He who celebrate a dieing thing shall die in it's celebration."

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation

[Hinge]

Debbie,
I didn't know I had a sister!
I did virtually all the same things you did.
Your post brought back memories. 



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: PR - Cole Porter included AP in a song

[justifiedright]

Well, we are talking about events long before my time.

You know...you're time. ;-)

/snickers
//runs away


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
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> > Covered by Sinatra, too.
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> 
> He sung it, Cole wrote it. How'd you think I would even know of it 
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> it was not for Ol Blue Eyes?
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RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Recreation

[Debbie DeLisa]

   Actually when I was a kid in Long Branch I was our block's pogo stick champion!  The sad thing is now kids never go out to play---Every night we played dodge ball, hit the bat, hide and seek, jingle jump or had handmade go karts with no brakes we would ride to the bottom of the hill.  That was such great fun!  After walking to St Michaels Church on Sunday we would go to Takanassee Lake and with a stick, string, cork and a safety pin look for worms so we could spend the day fishing!   Other days we would stick our little thumbs out and secretly  hitchike to the Long Branch Boardwalk to play pinball.  Sometimes we would explore the grounds of monmouth College or ride our bikes to Elberon Train Station for candy. I have such great memories of those days! No matter where we were the one important 
thing was Never Be Late For Dinner or you were in big trouble!

From: "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comTo: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: RecreationDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:32:01 -




>Anybody remember a pogo stick?> >denise is the only repsonse I got for the who should get money in AP:Pop Warner.Who needs the pogo stick?Between the 5 of us, I bet we'd all chip in. 






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[AsburyPark] Re: Celebrate New Jersey, Redux

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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In a message dated 10/11/2007 11:30:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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> May  God have mercy on New Jersey.
> 
> I Celebrate New Jersey:
>  

A wise elder once said upon your death you will be in the Kingdom of 
whom you celebrate and venerate.

As for me and my house we will worship the Lord.

As for this clown, he will stay in New Jersey in his next life.

"He who celebrate a dieing thing shall die in it's celebration."





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: PR - Cole Porter included AP in a song

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> Covered by Sinatra, too.
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He sung it, Cole wrote it. How'd you think I would even know of it if
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[AsburyPark] Bullets strike house, garage in Asbury Park

[Hinge]

Ok folks, read below carefully, and then think back to posts describing the 
technology of 
surveillence cameras installed in Newark and East Orange.
These cameras have microphones on them that are directional, and can move the 
camera 
to focus on the area where the gunshots originated.
This time, nobody was hit.
The police have no description. 
The don't know where the shots were fired from.
8 spent shell casings. That could've been 8 dead people.
Meanwhile, we have to wait for paperwork and bureacracy to go thru the motions.
And people outside of Asbury will start condemming us once again.

Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/11/07

BY MICHELLE SAHN

 Post Comment
ASBURY PARK — Police are trying to determine if someone fired a gun randomly or 
if that 
person was deliberately aiming at two boys when bullets struck a house and a 
garage on 
Church Street early this morning.

No one was injured in the incident.

Around 1 a.m., at least one bullet struck a house on the 600 block of Church 
Street and 
four more struck a garage on the same property, said Capt. David Kelso.

He said police are trying to determine if the shooting was random or if two 
boys who were 
in the area at the time were the targets of the shooter.

Kelso said police believe the shooter was on the street - not in a vehicle - 
but police have 
no description of that person.

Police recovered eight spent shell casings, he said.

Anyone with information is asked to call Detective Sgt. Randall Hill or 
Detective April Bird 
at (732) 775-4025. Information can also be left anonymously on the department's 
tip line 
at 1-800-799-8280.



 
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Re: [AsburyPark] PR - Cole Porter included AP in a song

[MarioAPNJ]

 
 
In a message dated 10/11/2007 11:02:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Is it  granada I see or only asbury park?
Is it a fancy not worth thinking  of?



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A fight for love and glory
A case of do  or die...
As time goes by 
 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[MarioAPNJ]

 
 
In a message dated 10/11/2007 3:02:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I wonder if the majority of arts related people all feel the same way  about 
Pier Village.  My friends hate it as well.  


Of course, I also remember the old Long Branch boardwalk and stuff.   I know 
that plays a role in how I feel about Pier Village, but mainly it's the  fact 
that I think it's horribly ugly.


Anyone else out there agree with me that Max's hot dogs just don't taste as  
good as they did when Max's joint was on the LB boards?
 
Maybe it was the saltwater spray and mist coming in from their old  
porch/deck that made a difference.
 
Maybe it's just me. The Windmill's dogs and Cali burgers don't make it  
anymore either.
 
Bring back Skee-Ball.   




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[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[oakdorf]

as one restaraunt guy in Pier V. was overheard saying to a worker 
= "...people don't come here because the foodthey are paying for 
the view"


He's successful despite himself.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[oakdorf]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You're right Allan, it'll definitely appeal to certain groups 
because  
> it's a "safe" location.   I doubt it brings many to other points in  
> Long Branch though.  They've kind of created their own little suburb  
> within the town.
> 

Well it does bring people into other parts of town. Right down 
Broadway, thus the effort to get Broadway up and running. Kind of like 
if AP/Neptune cleaned up Asbury ave and Springwood - 2 gateways to the 
shore. 33 is now nearing completion and now its a matter of time for 
some of those properties to get cleaned up some more.

Then the entire stretch of 35 from the circle to the belmar bridge.

Go to Florida. Drive rt 1 from Ft. Lauderdale to S. Beach and keep on 
going. Drive through ft. meyers. orlando. Granted you can't see the 
ocean any more - but at least what you can see is clean. I rather see a 
couple nice strips or "neighborhod centers" with big green patches then 
4 miles of half-ass buildings with broken cars, barbed wire fences and 
crap all over.

Chelsea ave in long branch had to rank right up there with one of the 
worst street in monmouth county that had nice old large victorians 
chopped up. They made an attempt to bring the two sides of ocean ave 
together. theres plenty more growth left in long branch and asbury.

start by enforcing clean and safe streets, housing violations and crime.

Start with education.




 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[Gary Wien]

Hinge,

I wonder if the majority of arts related people all feel the same way  
about Pier Village.  My friends hate it as well.


Of course, I also remember the old Long Branch boardwalk and stuff.   
I know that plays a role in how I feel about Pier Village, but mainly  
it's the fact that I think it's horribly ugly.



On Oct 11, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Hinge wrote:

It's my opinion Allan, and I have friends who share the same  
opinion. That's the bottom
line. It might not be the popular opinion, but I'm not going to  
keep my thoughts to myself

when I have one.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

>
> All have the right to their opinion. I just do find it fair to  
say it was the worst thing to
happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night in  
the summer, the place is
packed. I am not saying I love the architecture but the developer  
took a chance and

created a safe venue. And the city of Long Branch is collecting on it.
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
>
> Hinge,
>
>
> You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people  
think it's extremely ugly

and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote:
>
>
> I guess it's a matter of taste.
> I hate it with a passion.
> I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible.
> And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point  
close to my heart.
> In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of  
architecture becomes a
> destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on  
without an

overwhelming
> ugly building to look at.
> And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that  
existed long before Pier

> Village.
> In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong  
values.

> I will never view a shopping center as a destination.
> But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to  
shop when i'm bored.

> I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out.
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson   
wrote:

> >
> > Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk,  
shop etc. The design is

not
> perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say  
that about what was

there
> before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man  
not agree with retail on
> the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing  
to happen.

> >
> >
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Hinge 
> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM
> > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review
> >
> > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time.
> > I loved it.
> > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really  
friendly. Not overly friendly,

> friendly
> > with dignity.
> > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool.
> > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections.
> > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for  
4 people.
> > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to  
perfection.

> > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent.
> > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too.
> > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they  
loved it. Interestingly,

they
> all
> > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said  
nothing.
> > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three  
agreed that while Red

> Bank
> > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the  
restaraunts too expensive,

> and the
> > lack of parking annoying.
> > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a  
bit, and we all agreed that

> it's the
> > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __
> > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from  
someone who knows.

> Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
> > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __
> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's  
updated for today's

economy) at Yahoo! Games.
> http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
>

[AsburyPark] Re: PR - Cole Porter included AP in a song

[justifiedright]

Covered by Sinatra, too.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is it an earthquake or simply a shock?
> Is it the good turtle soup or merely the mock?
> Is it a cocktail, this feeling of joy?
> Or is what I feel the real mccoy?
> 
> Is it for all time or simply a lark?
> Is it granada I see or only asbury park?
> Is it a fancy not worth thinking of?
> Or is it at long last love?
> 
> Is it an earthquake, or simply a shock?
> Is it the good turtle soup, or is it merely the mock?
> Is it a cocktail, this feeling of joy?
> Or is what I feel the real mccoy?
> 
> Is it for all time or simply a lark?
> Is it granada I see or only asbury park?
> Is it a fancy, not worth thinking of?
> Or is it at long long long last love?
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[Hinge]

It's my opinion Allan, and I have friends who share the same opinion. That's 
the bottom 
line. It might not be the popular opinion, but I'm not going to keep my 
thoughts to myself 
when I have one.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> All have the right to their opinion.  I just do find it fair to say it was 
> the worst thing to 
happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night in the summer, 
the place is 
packed.  I am not saying I love the architecture but the developer took a 
chance and 
created a safe venue.  And the city of Long Branch is collecting on it.  
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
> 
> Hinge,
> 
> 
> You're far from alone in hating it.   Success or not, many people think it's 
> extremely ugly 
and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote:
> 
> 
> I guess it's a matter of taste.
> I hate it with a passion.
> I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible.
> And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my 
> heart.
> In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture 
> becomes a 
> destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an 
overwhelming 
> ugly building to look at.
> And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long 
> before Pier 
> Village.
> In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values.
> I will never view a shopping center as a destination.
> But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when 
> i'm bored.
> I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out.
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson  wrote:
> >
> > Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. 
> > The design is 
not 
> perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about 
> what was 
there 
> before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree 
> with retail on
> the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen.
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Hinge 
> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM
> > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review
> > 
> > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time.
> > I loved it.
> > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not 
> > overly friendly, 
> friendly 
> > with dignity.
> > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool.
> > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections.
> > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people.
> > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection.
> > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent.
> > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. 
> > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. 
> > Interestingly, 
they 
> all 
> > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing.
> > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that 
> > while Red 
> Bank 
> > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts 
> > too expensive, 
> and the 
> > lack of parking annoying.
> > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all 
> > agreed that 
> it's the 
> > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > __
> > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who 
> > knows. 
> Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. 
> > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for 
> today's 
economy) at Yahoo! Games.
> http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
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[AsburyPark] Downtown Marketing

[rook782]

I always wondered why we don't have any major signs telling people 
traveling on Main to turn into the downtown district.  A lot of 
tourists going up and down the coast might not even know this area 
exists and just keep on going straight to somewhere else to spend their 
money.   

Really, for a few well placed signs, think how much traffic would be 
diverted into the district and down along the ocean.   



 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[Gary Wien]

You're right Allan, it'll definitely appeal to certain groups because  
it's a "safe" location.   I doubt it brings many to other points in  
Long Branch though.  They've kind of created their own little suburb  
within the town.





On Oct 11, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Allan Peterson wrote:



All have the right to their opinion.  I just do find it fair to say  
it was the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled  
and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed.  I am  
not saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance  
and created a safe venue.  And the city of Long Branch is  
collecting on it.


- Original Message 
From: Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review


Hinge,

You're far from alone in hating it.   Success or not, many people  
think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something  
right next to the beach.




On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote:


I guess it's a matter of taste.
I hate it with a passion.
I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible.
And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point  
close to my heart.
In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of  
architecture becomes a
destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on  
without an overwhelming

ugly building to look at.
And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that  
existed long before Pier

Village.
In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values.
I will never view a shopping center as a destination.
But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to  
shop when i'm bored.

I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

>
> Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk,  
shop etc. The design is not
perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say  
that about what was there
before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man  
not agree with retail on
the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to  
happen.

>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review
>
> So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time.
> I loved it.
> The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really  
friendly. Not overly friendly,

friendly
> with dignity.
> Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool.
> The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections.
> We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for  
4 people.
> My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to  
perfection.

> For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent.
> Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too.
> Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved  
it. Interestingly, they

all
> began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said  
nothing.
> They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three  
agreed that while Red

Bank
> looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the  
restaraunts too expensive,

and the
> lack of parking annoying.
> When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit,  
and we all agreed that

it's the
> worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __
> Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from  
someone who knows.

Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
> http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433
>






Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR

[Allan Peterson]

Our downtown offers nothing for that group (people with expendable incomes).  
First we need the downtown to be open more often


- Original Message 
From: oakdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:29:26 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote:
>
> October 11, 2007
> City's Virtues to Be Sold in New Global Ad Campaign
> By PATRICK McGEEHAN
>
I worked on Madison ave for a short period next NYC & Comp offices.

Pier Village created a destination.

How many times has my daughter hit me up or blown her paycheck at Pier -
Greek to me, Sawa, Nirvanna or Jenna & Molly or michael angleos...for 
the "new" kids, Pier V is hot. They are waiting for AP to lure them in, 
other then the Pony. Does the downtown bring in the 16-20 year olds? 
No - at least what I see. There is no draw for them. So will they be 
drawn here 4 years, 7 or 10 years from now - when things may be more 
built up??





  

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[Allan Peterson]

All have the right to their opinion.  I just do find it fair to say it was the 
worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night 
in the summer, the place is packed.  I am not saying I love the architecture 
but the developer took a chance and created a safe venue.  And the city of Long 
Branch is collecting on it.  


- Original Message 
From: Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

Hinge,


You're far from alone in hating it.   Success or not, many people think it's 
extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach.






On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote:


I guess it's a matter of taste.
I hate it with a passion.
I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible.
And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my 
heart.
In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture 
becomes a 
destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an 
overwhelming 
ugly building to look at.
And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long 
before Pier 
Village.
In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values.
I will never view a shopping center as a destination.
But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm 
bored.
I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The 
> design is not 
perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about 
what was there 
before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with 
retail on
the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen.
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review
> 
> So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time.
> I loved it.
> The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly 
> friendly, 
friendly 
> with dignity.
> Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool.
> The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections.
> We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people.
> My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection.
> For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent.
> Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. 
> Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. 
> Interestingly, they 
all 
> began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing.
> They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that 
> while Red 
Bank 
> looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too 
> expensive, 
and the 
> lack of parking annoying.
> When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all 
> agreed that 
it's the 
> worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __
> Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who 
> knows. 
Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. 
> http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433
>







   

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today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow  

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Cost of Events

[MarioAPNJ]

 
 
In a message dated 10/11/2007 8:23:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

--- In  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
"rook782" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Good Point, I hope  we can get these cost figures. Transparency is 
> key to good government  in New Jersey. 

I'll put up $100 towards the cost of YOUR cameras if  someone produces
how dollars are allocated to what:

"Good Citizenship" posts from Rook and  Oakdorf.
 
Inspires me to buy Janet Reno's new "Song of America"  CD set.
 
Really! Tavis had her on last  night.
 
 
_Click  here: Amazon.com: Song of America: Music: Various Artists,Janet 
Reno,Ed  Pettersen,David Macias,Bob Olhsson_ 
(http://www.amazon.com/Song-America-Various-Artists/dp/B000T3GK8O/ref=dp_return_2/102-6896512-3656910?ie=UTF8&n=5174&;
s=music&qid=1192118979&sr=8-1)  

 
Questions are the  Answer.




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR

[MarioAPNJ]

 
 
In a message dated 10/11/2007 1:06:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Where  will we all wind up?

NJ moves to PA, PA hates NJ people, so they move  to Ohio or VA or 
Upstate NY. Move to Dallas or Houston, then those people  move to 
Austin.. or Mexico and the mexicans get so pissed becasue we build  
home depots and everything right across the border and move there,  
etc...


What doesn't  get as much play in the media is the number of people who move 
back to the  Northeast after having left for "greener pastures."
 
Another matter of taste, I guess.  
 
Like my relatives who moved back to NNJ cities because  moves to  Florida, 
(then to Ocean County's retirement sterility) didn't measure up to  their 
expectations. They missed their old neighborhoods, friends, families,  and city 
services.  
 
Others I know of have moved back, or plan to, from Arizona and from Las  
Vegas.




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[AsburyPark] Celebrate New Jersey, Redux

[MarioAPNJ]

 
 
In a message dated 10/11/2007 11:30:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

May  God have mercy on New Jersey.

I Celebrate New Jersey:
 
--
--
Caveat lector:  1000's of words and dozens of  links within the links. Not 
for the faint-hearted or fact-allergic.   
 
 
2007 Reasons to Celebrate NJ! (as released, 4,850 - words that  is): 
_http://www.celebratenj.com/jersey_top.html_ 
(http://www.celebratenj.com/jersey_top.html)  
NJ is second only to California among all state, based on number  of cities 
in the top 100 best places to live in the U.S.A.   
_http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bplive/2007/states/AL.html_ 
(http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bplive/2007/states/AL.html) 

 
And much more previously posted --   
_Click here: AsburyPark : Message: Re: "Radio  Nowhere"_ 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/30048)   
 (http://www.celebratenj.com/jersey_top.html) 




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[AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR

[Hinge]

"Again, where local governments have ordinances that control grwoth,  design 
etc."

Take Tinton Falls for example.
They approved building a Home Depot in an area where there are already 2 or 3 
Home 
Depots less then a few short miles away.
Ridiculous. We don't need it, but they let it happen anyhow. 
More green space disappears with orange in it's place.
And what happened to American manufacturing. Gone. Terrible.
Recently I watched "The  War" on PBS and it really showed how much America has 
lost since 
then in terms of manufacturing. We taught the world how to built quality 
things, and then 
gave it away.




 
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[AsburyPark] reason to move part 2

[oakdorf]

we were heading to PA friday night working our way out of ocean twp on 
west park ave, going past the highschool as the traffic was heading 
into the fball game. No one directing traffic.

As I toot along, a women decides to pull out and bash into me in her 
SUV. And kept on going.

Call the police.
My question: How come no ones is directing traffic?
A: We do, after the game.

As I continue to bitch I am told "you should both drive more carefully".





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR

[oakdorf]

The major chains are on a mission to remove local identity from 
the country and they are largely succeeding.

Again, where local governments have ordinances that control grwoth, 
design etc.



> So, why are these people leaving to? I'd say for lower 
mortgages.

TAXES. At least you have a few years in other places, like Indiana, 
befreo all the people from NJ start bithcing they dont have garbage 
pick up or have to take their own recycling or not enough police. 

Where will we all wind up?

NJ moves to PA, PA hates NJ people, so they move to Ohio or VA or 
Upstate NY. Move to Dallas or Houston, then those people move to 
Austin.. or Mexico and the mexicans get so pissed becasue we build 
home depots and everything right across the border and move there, 
etc...





 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR

[Gary Wien]

Don't forget that for years malls were the coolest thing, but plenty  
of towns are moving back to the downtown approach now.   There are  
many malls around the country that are closing or becoming different  
than they once were (see Seaview Square as a local example).


The idea of things like Pier Village may be destination bound, but it  
also could be a fad like the malls were.


And as far as people leaving New Jersey, I wonder if that takes  
account for all of the immigrants moving into the state because it  
just might balance things out.  After a short trip back to Virginia,  
I can say that from VA to NJ everything is starting to look the  
same.  There are chain restaurants, mini-outdoor malls, and  
everything wherever you go.  New Jersey is not the only place losing  
an identity.  The major chains are on a mission to remove local  
identity from the country and they are largely succeeding.


So, why are these people leaving to? I'd say for lower mortgages.
Outside our borders doesn't really offer more or look different than  
Jersey - just may be a little cheaper, that's all.



On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Hinge wrote:


See, it's a matter of taste.
Maybe I'm too old school to assimilate to things like Pier Village.
All I can say is that of course some people will flock to something  
like that, because it's all
they know anymore. But compared to a earlier time in our culture,  
Pier Village is an
abomination. Nobody will ever be able to convince me that it's  
attractive in any way.
I find it sad that the next few generations will accept our strip  
mall culture and things like

Pier Village as the best our culture can offer.
But that's just me.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> >
> > October 11, 2007
> > City's Virtues to Be Sold in New Global Ad Campaign
> > By PATRICK McGEEHAN
> >
> I worked on Madison ave for a short period next NYC & Comp offices.
>
> Pier Village created a destination.
>
> How many times has my daughter hit me up or blown her paycheck at  
Pier -
> Greek to me, Sawa, Nirvanna or Jenna & Molly or michael  
angleos...for
> the "new" kids, Pier V is hot. They are waiting for AP to lure  
them in,

> other then the Pony. Does the downtown bring in the 16-20 year olds?
> No - at least what I see. There is no draw for them. So will they be
> drawn here 4 years, 7 or 10 years from now - when things may be more
> built up??
>

[AsburyPark] We reap what we sow...

[jerseykev]

We Reap What We Sow!!  Body:  The  following was written by Ben Stein and 
recited by him on CBS Sunday  Morning Com.

My confession:

I am a Jew, and every single one  of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not 
bother me even a little bit  when people call those beautiful lit up, 
bejeweled trees Christmas trees.  I don't feel threatened. I don't feel 
discriminated 
against. That's what  they are: Christmas trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people  say, "Merry Christmas" to me. I don't 
think they are slighting me or  getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, 
I kind of like it. It shows  that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating 
this happy time of year.  It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger 
scene on display at a  key intersection near my beach house in Malibu. If 
people want a crche,  it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred 
yards  away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I  don't think 
Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I  think people who 
believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed  around, period. I have no 
idea where the concept came from that America is  an explicitly atheist 
country. 
I can't find it in the Constitution and I  don't like it being shoved down my 
throat.

Or maybe I can put it  another way: where did the idea come from that we 
should worship Nick and  Jessica and we aren't allowed to worship God as we 
understand Him? I guess  that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. But there are 
a 
lot of us who are  wondering where Nick and Jessica came from and where the 
America we knew  went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a  laugh, this is a 
little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's  not funny, it's 
intended to get you thinking.

Billy Graham's  daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson 
asked her "How  could God let something like this happen?" (regarding Katrina) 
Anne Graham  gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
She said, "I  believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for 
years  we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our  
government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I  
believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His  
blessing 
and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?"

In  light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I 
think  it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body 
found  
recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said  OK. 
Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible  says thou 
shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as  yourself. 
And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't  spank our children when they 
misbehave because their little personalities  would be warped and we might 
damage t 
heir self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son  committed suicide). We said an expert 
should know what he's talking about.  And we said OK.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no  conscience, why they 
don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't  bother them to kill strangers, 
their classmates, and  themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we  can figure it out. I 
think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE  SOW."

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then  wonder why the 
world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the  newspapers say, but 
question 
what the Bible says.. Funny how you can send  'jokes' through e-mail and they 
spread like wildfire but when you start  sending messages regarding the Lord, 
people think twice about sharing.  Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene 
articles pass freely through  cyberspace, but public discussion of God is 
suppressed in the school and  workplace.

Are you laughing?

Funny how when you forward this  message, you will not send it to many on 
your address list because you're  not sure what they believe, or what they will 
think of you for sending  it.

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think  of us than 
what God thinks of us.

Pass it on if you think it has  merit. If not then just discard it... no one 
will know you did. But, if  you discard this thought process, don't sit back 
and complain about what  bad shape the world is in. My Best Regards.
Honestly and  respectfully,

Ben  Stein



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[AsburyPark] antique show

[denise]

This sounds good

Visitors bring their treasures to annual antiques show
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/11/07
BY KAREN HAMMERDORFER
DELANCEY
CORRESPONDENT
BELMAR — It wasn't necessarily a "Ticket to Ride," but it was a ticket stub 
from 1965 when the Beatles performed at Shea Stadium in Queens, N.Y.
Louis Williams of Neptune was one of several people who came to get their goods 
appraised at the Antiques by the Atlantic Show at the Taylor Pavilion. The 
fourth annual event was sponsored by the Belmar Historical Council.
Armed with more than 35 years' experience as an appraiser and at least five 
thick reference books, George Beyers determined if people's "antiques" were 
treasures, trash or somewhere in between. Meyers, who lives in Manchester, is a 
dealer/appraiser at the Antique Emporium in Point Pleasant Beach.
"We like to see good items. It makes the appraisers feel good and makes the 
people who own them feel good," Beyers said. "Some people bring in something 
that's worthless — we have to be honest and tell them."


   

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[AsburyPark] Re: Transparency

[oakdorf]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hasn't Jewell Marketing had an office in Asbury Park for several 
years?
> 
> 

What came first, the chicken or the egg? 

Better PR to PR your PR.

Something like that.



 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[Gary Wien]

Hinge,

You're far from alone in hating it.   Success or not, many people  
think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something  
right next to the beach.




On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote:


I guess it's a matter of taste.
I hate it with a passion.
I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible.
And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point  
close to my heart.
In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of  
architecture becomes a
destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on  
without an overwhelming

ugly building to look at.
And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that  
existed long before Pier

Village.
In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values.
I will never view a shopping center as a destination.
But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to  
shop when i'm bored.

I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

>
> Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk,  
shop etc. The design is not
perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say  
that about what was there
before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man  
not agree with retail on
the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to  
happen.

>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review
>
> So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time.
> I loved it.
> The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really  
friendly. Not overly friendly,

friendly
> with dignity.
> Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool.
> The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections.
> We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4  
people.
> My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to  
perfection.

> For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent.
> Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too.
> Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved  
it. Interestingly, they

all
> began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said  
nothing.
> They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three  
agreed that while Red

Bank
> looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the  
restaraunts too expensive,

and the
> lack of parking annoying.
> When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit,  
and we all agreed that

it's the
> worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time.
>
>
>
>
>
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[AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR

[oakdorf]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
kids and alot of others like the summer crowds there.Waiting on line 
for AVE/le Club, being told u can't sit in that chair cost it costs 
$300 for a bottle or looking at people willing to pluck down $10-$20 
to valet the car or waiting an hour to go to the turning point. 

It's destination, not for everyone. And yea, people complain who live 
in the cardboxes about the crowds, the music which gets killed at 10 
outside at Sawa.

Just give the sand and water. No towel, No $20 lounge. 

Just a clean beach with no waves.

Somone once had a t-shirt in Italian transated:

Clean Air
Fresh Water 
and (I can't put the last line)





 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Transparency

[Gary Wien]

Hasn't Jewell Marketing had an office in Asbury Park for several years?

Maybe that's how (or why) they were chosen.


On Oct 11, 2007, at 9:35 AM, rook782 wrote:


I went to Jewell Marketings website. I think I found out why the
idea of a hundred banjo players was marketed for the Apple Festival.
Mr. Jewell teaches banjos. Not only are we paying them for
marketing, were paying for them to have a banjo bash.

One last note, Jewell Marketing is from Fair Haven. Gilmour is a
council member from there or was one. Is that how we pick talent?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> here is a stupid idea, lets have no more bs events, chef puff, no
> cake,unattended arts festival, apple festival attended because it
was
> on a saturday night on cookman, great event for the kids, not!!!
dec
> 15th winter carnival, what is this going to be 110 santa clauses
> looking at the lights and trees put up every year? talk about a
waste
> of money this series was the biggest rip off going, one day we
should
> all get an acounting of who made what and what the city actually
got
> for these half ass events, my take without the facts, just made a
> couple of people tons of money, if im wrong someone please supply
> this group with the costs etc. and i will apologize, lets stop the
> crap and use this money for the cameras, if not this year then
budget
> the money were going to save, by not having these events and buy
the
> cameras out of nest years budget, again i wish someone perhaps
> councilman keady who posts here will ask for and give us the costs
of
> these events, thank you
>

[AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR

[Hinge]

See, it's a matter of taste.
Maybe I'm too old school to assimilate to things like Pier Village.
All I can say is that of course some people will flock to something like that, 
because it's all 
they know anymore. But compared to a earlier time in our culture, Pier Village 
is an 
abomination. Nobody will ever be able to convince me that it's attractive in 
any way.
I find it sad that the next few generations will accept our strip mall culture 
and things like 
Pier Village as the best our culture can offer.
But that's just me.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> >
> > October 11, 2007
> > City's Virtues to Be Sold in New Global Ad Campaign
> > By PATRICK McGEEHAN
> >
> I worked on Madison ave for a short period next NYC & Comp offices.
> 
> Pier Village created a destination.
> 
> How many times has my daughter hit me up or blown her paycheck at Pier -
>  Greek to me, Sawa, Nirvanna or Jenna & Molly or michael angleos...for 
> the "new" kids, Pier V is hot. They are waiting for AP to lure them in, 
> other then the Pony. Does the downtown bring in the 16-20 year olds? 
> No - at least what I see. There is no draw for them. So will they be 
> drawn here 4 years, 7 or 10 years from now - when things may be more 
> built up??
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Transparency

[apoojo]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Did they do a show from convention hall once before?
> 
> they did two small shows in the paramount,over two years,  it had 
quite a few of the people you see on tv but not all, it was a scaled 
down version, really good, kate melina and some charitys were the 
ones that brought it here, monmouth university filmed it, guesing im 
going to be close 2000 and 2001, have it in the hall in the fall or 
winter and you do not have to fix the ac, this past weeks antique 
show at the hall was very nice for the first one, im sure something 
they will build on and make it biggger and better in the future
> - Original Message 
> From: dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:55:15 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Transparency
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "oakdorf"  wrote:
> >
> > >>> I thing the city needs a PR firm. 
> > > 
> > 
> > I could think of a few people who think we know it all and can do 
it. 
> > 
> > Send the check, please. We'll even buy some stuff for recreation, 
with 
> > our names plastered on it.
> > 
> > 
> > If I were them, I would of gone back to the old slogan Jewell of 
the 
> > Jersey Shore. 
> > 
> > Then I'd bring in Jewell, the singer, http://www.jeweljk. com/ in 
the 
> > Paramount. For the summer '08. She can sing.
> > 
> > As soon as Werner hits the lottery, I'll book her.
> >
> 
> I'd fix the AC in Convention Hall and bring in Antiques Roadshow.
> There has to be someone in AP with connections to this show.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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[AsburyPark] Re: Follow The Leader

[Kevin Brown]

I was not shocked or surprised to hear of the high numbers of New 
Jersey Residents who have fled the State.  I contribute this "Great 
Escape" to three very simple things.  The highest taxes in the 
country, the most corrupt officials in the country and the mass 
development using abusive condemnation and eminent domain.  When you 
tax the people out, rob the people out and throw the people out of 
their homes and businesses, what did you expect would happen?
 
These three problems are controlled by 120 elected officials sent to 
Trenton, by the very same people who later wake up and start packing 
to move.  
 
Those of us who have not started boxing up our possessions as of yet, 
have an opportunity to do something to fix the problem.  On November 
6 send all 120 incumbents back to private life by voting for some new 
Senate & Assembly people who are dedicated to lower spending, smaller 
government, less taxes, honest Government and development without the 
use of eminent domain for private developer gain.
 
May God have mercy on New Jersey.
 
KEVIN BROWN


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jerseyans leave at alarming rate
> Outflow is damaging economy
> Wednesday, October 10, 2007
> BY JOE DONOHUE
> Star-Ledger Staff
> 
> Residents are leaving New Jersey at three times the rate they were
> just five years ago, a trend that is already doing real damage to 
the
> state's economy and budget coffers, a new Rutgers University report 
shows.
> 
> The exodus is so bad, the study says, it could lead to an overall 
drop
> in the state's population as soon as next year.
> 
> "The population outflow is real, is approaching worrisome 
dimensions,
> and is exerting a small but increasingly negative impact on the New
> Jersey economy," said the study by Rutgers economists James Hughes 
and
> Joseph Seneca.
> 
> Last year alone, the loss of people cost the state economy about $10
> billion in income, and about $680 million in state budget revenue.
> 
> While the economists said they are certain the exodus is growing, 
they
> are less sure of why. Possible reasons include high housing costs 
and
> the state's generally high cost of living. Society in general also 
is
> increasingly mobile, they said.
> 
> Seneca said state leaders need a broad agenda to reverse the slide.
> The solutions, he said, should include a further reduction in the
> highest-in-the-nation property tax burden, more investments in
> infrastructure, science and technology and new policies to restore
> business confidence.
> 
> "These trends are not going to be reversed overnight," Seneca said.
> 
> In their study, Seneca and Hughes reviewed Census and Internal 
Revenue
> Service data between 2002 and 2006. They found the gap between the
> number of people leaving the state and new arrivals has more than
> tripled. In 2002, the gap was 23,759. By last year, it had jumped to
> 72,547.
> 
> Only three other states -- California, Louisiana and New York --
> showed bigger losses. Florida, Pennsylvania and North Carolina held
> the most appeal for New Jerseyans, according to the study, which is
> available at www.policy.rutgers.edu.
> 
> The trend could lead to an actual reduction in the state's 
population
> as early as 2008, the study says. Annual population growth fell from
> 79,184 in 2002 to 21,410 last year.
> 
> "There has been a sharp deceleration of population growth in New
> Jersey starting in 2002 and persisting since then," the report said.
> "This has been primarily caused by the sharp acceleration in the
> number of New Jerseyans moving to other states."
> 
> The slump in the housing market could slow the exodus: "Basically, 
if
> you can't sell your house, you can't move," the report said.
> 
> And in the long run, other states may lose their allure because of
> their own rising expenses and congestion.
> 
> William Dressel, executive director of the New Jersey State League 
of
> Municipalities, said called the study "bad news. It has profound
> implications not only for the state but local governments."
> 
> A decline in population not only would hurt the state's economy and
> budget, but could cost New Jersey another congressional seat and
> curtail population-based federal aid, he said.
> 
> Assembly Minority Leader Alex DeCroce (R-Morris) said it is no
> coincidence the exodus swelled during a period in which Democrats
> raised state taxes more per capita than any other state. The average
> property tax bill jumped 29 percent to $6,170, also a national high.
> 
> "People just can't handle it anymore. You can't simply tax your way
> out of a problem," said DeCroce, who called for deeper budget cuts 
at
> all levels of government.
> 
> Philip Kirschner, president of New Jersey Business and Industry
> Association, said the exodus of more than 231,000 people over five
> years is alarming and signals the need for new state policies.
> 
> "When people vote with their feet, I think you have to take t

[AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR

[oakdorf]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> October 11, 2007
> City's Virtues to Be Sold in New Global Ad Campaign
> By PATRICK McGEEHAN
>
I worked on Madison ave for a short period next NYC & Comp offices.

Pier Village created a destination.

How many times has my daughter hit me up or blown her paycheck at Pier -
 Greek to me, Sawa, Nirvanna or Jenna & Molly or michael angleos...for 
the "new" kids, Pier V is hot. They are waiting for AP to lure them in, 
other then the Pony. Does the downtown bring in the 16-20 year olds? 
No - at least what I see. There is no draw for them. So will they be 
drawn here 4 years, 7 or 10 years from now - when things may be more 
built up??





 
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[AsburyPark] NYC Big Time PR

[dfsavgny]

October 11, 2007
City's Virtues to Be Sold in New Global Ad Campaign
By PATRICK McGEEHAN

New York City has historically relied on its own magnetism to draw
visitors from around the country and the world. But now, the home of
Madison Avenue is going to try advertising itself in a big, broad way.

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg unveiled the city's first global
advertising campaign yesterday in Times Square. The campaign, which
carries the theme "This is New York City," includes a television ad
that will be the first to promote the city to potential visitors who
live overseas.

It is the latest weapon aimed at hitting the mayor's target of
increasing the number of visitors to 50 million a year by 2015. Last
year, the city drew 43.8 million visitors, more than in any previous
year, according to NYC & Company, the city's tourism promotion agency.

To reach that goal, NYC & Company plans to place billboards in cities
across America and Europe and to broadcast its new commercial in
Britain, Ireland and Spain, on local TV stations in Philadelphia and
Boston, and on the History Channel.

George Fertitta, the chief executive of NYC & Company, said the ad
placements would be worth about $30 million, but would cost the agency
less than $5 million in cash because many of them were arranged
through trades.

The city's contract with Cemusa, a provider of bus shelters and other
structures, gives it hundreds of billboards that it can swap for
advertising space on the streets of several European cities. Much of
the money for the campaign is coming from the city budget.

When he set his tourism target a couple of years ago, Mr. Bloomberg
pledged to increase spending on tourism promotion by $15 million a
year. Historically, NYC & Company received most of its funds from
hotel operators and other companies in the travel and tourism
industries. The agency organized promotions but had never created a
comprehensive campaign on a par with New York State's long-running "I
Love New York" ads.

Mr. Bloomberg said yesterday that it was time to recognize how
important tourism is to the city's economy and to try to increase it
at a time when a weak dollar is making the city more affordable to
foreigners.

"People are shocked to find that what they thought was a very
expensive city isn't all that expensive," Mr. Bloomberg said.

Mr. Bloomberg said the city was competing for tourist dollars against
other destinations, like Las Vegas, that spend far more. The Las Vegas
Convention and Visitors Authority has an annual marketing budget of
$127 million, about $86 million of which goes toward advertising
around the world, according to Vince Alberta, a spokesman for the
authority.

Las Vegas, which uses the slogan "What happens here stays here," also
has a big goal. It hopes to attract 43 million visitors annually by
the end of the decade, Mr. Alberta said.

In contrast to Las Vegas's attractions, what New York has to offer is
more difficult to summarize, city officials said. Daniel Doctoroff,
the deputy mayor for economic development, recounted the difficulty
that the writer E. B. White had in defining the city in his 1949 essay
"Here is New York."

White called it a "concentrate of art and commerce and sport and
religion and entertainment and finance." But Mr. Doctoroff said, "How
do you turn that into a marketing campaign?"

He said the officials decided that in order "to get at New York's
core, you simply have to let New York speak for itself." So the theme
of the ads is simply "This is New York City," and the ads combine
images of the city like the Statue of Liberty, Yankee Stadium and the
Brooklyn Bridge with animated symbols meant to spark a viewer's
imagination.

"This is targeted to the excitement of New York City," Mr. Bloomberg
said. "It's a lot more upbeat than just `I Love New York.'"

Mr. Fertitta of NYC & Company said the ads were intended to "allow
people to see the extraordinary abundance" of the city. "We don't need
to come up with a real slogan that's designed to convince somebody of
something."

The TV ad is set to a remix of Ella Fitzgerald's rendition of "Take
the A Train." The music and the animation were intended to "have you
feel it yourself," said Kevin Roddy, the executive creative director
of BBH, the agency that made the ads. "New York is such an active
city," Mr. Roddy said. "We wanted to do advertising that did something."



 
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[AsburyPark] PR - Cole Porter included AP in a song

[dfsavgny]

Is it an earthquake or simply a shock?
Is it the good turtle soup or merely the mock?
Is it a cocktail, this feeling of joy?
Or is what I feel the real mccoy?

Is it for all time or simply a lark?
Is it granada I see or only asbury park?
Is it a fancy not worth thinking of?
Or is it at long last love?

Is it an earthquake, or simply a shock?
Is it the good turtle soup, or is it merely the mock?
Is it a cocktail, this feeling of joy?
Or is what I feel the real mccoy?

Is it for all time or simply a lark?
Is it granada I see or only asbury park?
Is it a fancy, not worth thinking of?
Or is it at long long long last love?



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[Hinge]

I guess it's a matter of taste.
I hate it with a passion.
I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible.
And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my 
heart.
In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture 
becomes a 
destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an 
overwhelming 
ugly building to look at.
And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long 
before Pier 
Village.
In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values.
I will never view a shopping center as a destination.
But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm 
bored.
I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pier Village is a destination.  People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc.  
> The design is not 
perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people.  Hard to say that about 
what was there 
before.  Allied created a successful place out of a ruin.  You man not agree 
with retail on 
the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen.
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review
> 
> So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time.
> I loved it.
> The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly 
> friendly, 
friendly 
> with dignity.
> Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool.
> The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections.
> We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people.
> My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection.
> For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent.
> Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. 
> Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. 
> Interestingly, they 
all 
> began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing.
> They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that 
> while Red 
Bank 
> looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too 
> expensive, 
and the 
> lack of parking annoying.
> When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all 
> agreed that 
it's the 
> worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Transparency

[denise]

Did they do a show from convention hall once before?


- Original Message 
From: dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:55:15 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Transparency

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> >>> I thing the city needs a PR firm. 
> > 
> 
> I could think of a few people who think we know it all and can do it. 
> 
> Send the check, please. We'll even buy some stuff for recreation, with 
> our names plastered on it.
> 
> 
> If I were them, I would of gone back to the old slogan Jewell of the 
> Jersey Shore. 
> 
> Then I'd bring in Jewell, the singer, http://www.jeweljk. com/ in the 
> Paramount. For the summer '08. She can sing.
> 
> As soon as Werner hits the lottery, I'll book her.
>

I'd fix the AC in Convention Hall and bring in Antiques Roadshow.
There has to be someone in AP with connections to this show.





   

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[AsburyPark] Re: Transparency

[dfsavgny]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>> I thing the city needs a PR firm.  
> > 
> 
> I could think of a few people who think we know it all and can do it. 
> 
> Send the check, please. We'll even buy some stuff for recreation, with 
> our names plastered on it.
> 
> 
> If I were them, I would of gone back to the old slogan Jewell of the 
> Jersey Shore. 
> 
> Then I'd bring in Jewell, the singer, http://www.jeweljk.com/ in the 
> Paramount. For the summer '08. She can sing.
> 
> As soon as Werner hits the lottery, I'll book her.
>

I'd fix the AC in Convention Hall and bring in Antiques Roadshow.
There has to be someone in AP with connections to this show.




 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[Allan Peterson]

Pier Village is a destination.  People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc.  The 
design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people.  Hard to say 
that about what was there before.  Allied created a successful place out of a 
ruin.  You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to 
say it was the worst thing to happen.


- Original Message 
From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review

So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time.
I loved it.
The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly 
friendly, friendly 
with dignity.
Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool.
The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections.
We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people.
My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection.
For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent.
Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. 
Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. 
Interestingly, they all 
began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing.
They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that 
while Red Bank 
looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too 
expensive, and the 
lack of parking annoying.
When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all 
agreed that it's the 
worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time.





   

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[AsburyPark] Re: For Jack

[Hinge]

Here's one thing to think about.
I wonder if the City is dragging their feet on this because people perceive 
there to be a lull 
in crime at the moment.
That's the wrong attitude to take.
We still have problems here that need to be strongly combated.
We can't wait for another incident like what happened in Newark to happen here.
Outsiders still fear AP, and the surveillence system will help to quell those 
fears, and 
change things for the better in the city.
As for a lull in crime...i'm not sure if that's the case.
I think we still have drug dealers riding around on bicycles.
As long as drugs are in this town, so are gangs, and so are the guns.
And the knife wielding bicyclist is something we can not tolerate.
Last night, I saw 2 police cars racing down 1st Ave. at high speed, so 
something must've 
been going on.
Finally, there is something i've been thinking about lately.
Yes, it's about Library Square Park, so bear with me.
I'm beginning to think that the local drug lords might have enlisted some kids 
to do the 
vandalizing there. By vandalizing the fountain, they turned out the lights. 
Since the 
fountain went dark, i've seen an increase in discarded drug bags around the 
fountain.
Coincidence? Maybe.
I also think it's terrible that the city is ignoring the lighting in the park. 
The central area is completely dark at night.
This needs to change

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bump
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"  wrote:
> >
> > 1. Ran into Johna Karpinski again and told her of you again.  She has 
> > some funding initiatives going for your park there.  She told me to 
> > give you her number.  She works at Conover:  732-897-9200 x 127. You 
> > two will work well together.
> > 
> > 
> > 2. In today's paper, Corzine, Milgram (atty geneneral) and Fuentes 
> > (state police) announced a new anti-crime initiative, that included 
> > $$$ for cameras.  I know this issue is your passion.
> > 
> > I think you should call each of their offices asap.  Tell them where 
> > you live and that you want cameras for AP. Ask how you can make that 
> > happen. Don't hesitate.
> > 
> > I'd help with the calls, but those folks aren't exactly my peeps ;-). 
> > There is someone in Corzine's office that I'm pretty sure would throw 
> > the phone if you mentioned me (don't ask).
> > 
> > Here's a list of folks I think you should have help you with the calls:
> > 
> > - Assemblyman Sean Kean.  He did that Press Conference about a month 
> > ago here in AP as he is seeking money for cameras.  He's running for 
> > Senator - great incentive to help you now.
> > 
> > - Councilman Keady.  He's working on it with Sean.
> > 
> > - Deputy Mayor Bruno.  My estimation is he is more involved with the D 
> > party than Keady.  Wouldn't hurt to have him call with you.
> > 
> > - Campaign Headquartes of Villapiano, Napolitano and Pirnot in Ocean 
> > Township.  They are Democrats running for Senate and Assembly 
> > respectively.  Great incentive to help you right now.
> > 
> > If you get him on the phone, tell Johnny Napolitano I said if he 
> > doesn't help you I won't let him pose for publicity pictures with me 
> > anymore. 
> > 
> > Caveat:  Elections a few weeks away.  Everyone's busy.  Expect a 
> > slowed response from candidates, but keep on them.
> > 
> > You make it happen, I'll nominate you for a public service plaque.
> >
>




 
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[AsburyPark] paramount

[dfsavgny]

Facade of Paramount Theatre to be restored by November
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/11/07

BY NANCY SHIELDS
STAFF WRITER

ASBURY PARK — Larry Potter and his Landmark Studio crew out of
Pittstown, Hunterdon County, hope to finish up the first phase of
their restoration work on the Paramount Theatre facade by early November.

Madison Marquette, the lead developer of the entertainment portion of
the city's beachfront plan, brought Potter to Asbury Park to first
work on the ornamental ceiling of the 1,500-seat theater in April.

By June, Potter started on the south side of the 1929 building's
facade where his workers are repairing and replacing stone blocks on
the corners and restoring numerous decorative copper and terra cotta
ornamentation including copper sailing ships and lanterns.

"We're trying to get this (south) elevation and arcade in good shape,"
Potter said.

The theater, part of the Convention Hall arena and arcade complex
designed by architects Warren and Wetmore, was placed on the National
Register of Historic Places in 1979.

Potter is taking apart a 12-foot sailing ship with three masts on the
south roof. Another 12-foot ship, which looks like it is slowing
sinking, awaits him on the north side, and two smaller ships are on
the theater's west side.

"The copper is in very good shape," Potter said. "The way we're
pulling it apart is very important on how it goes back together."

Madison Marquette also has begun renovations of the Casino and power
plant at the southern end of the boardwalk and is following a plan to
renovate the boardwalk pavilions.

The work at the Paramount includes reglazing the colorful terra cotta
designs of sea horses and sea monsters, and restoring three types of
lanterns — sconces, barrel lamps and ship lamps.



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: For Jack

[Hinge]

Bump

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 1. Ran into Johna Karpinski again and told her of you again.  She has 
> some funding initiatives going for your park there.  She told me to 
> give you her number.  She works at Conover:  732-897-9200 x 127. You 
> two will work well together.
> 
> 
> 2. In today's paper, Corzine, Milgram (atty geneneral) and Fuentes 
> (state police) announced a new anti-crime initiative, that included 
> $$$ for cameras.  I know this issue is your passion.
> 
> I think you should call each of their offices asap.  Tell them where 
> you live and that you want cameras for AP. Ask how you can make that 
> happen. Don't hesitate.
> 
> I'd help with the calls, but those folks aren't exactly my peeps ;-). 
> There is someone in Corzine's office that I'm pretty sure would throw 
> the phone if you mentioned me (don't ask).
> 
> Here's a list of folks I think you should have help you with the calls:
> 
> - Assemblyman Sean Kean.  He did that Press Conference about a month 
> ago here in AP as he is seeking money for cameras.  He's running for 
> Senator - great incentive to help you now.
> 
> - Councilman Keady.  He's working on it with Sean.
> 
> - Deputy Mayor Bruno.  My estimation is he is more involved with the D 
> party than Keady.  Wouldn't hurt to have him call with you.
> 
> - Campaign Headquartes of Villapiano, Napolitano and Pirnot in Ocean 
> Township.  They are Democrats running for Senate and Assembly 
> respectively.  Great incentive to help you right now.
> 
> If you get him on the phone, tell Johnny Napolitano I said if he 
> doesn't help you I won't let him pose for publicity pictures with me 
> anymore. 
> 
> Caveat:  Elections a few weeks away.  Everyone's busy.  Expect a 
> slowed response from candidates, but keep on them.
> 
> You make it happen, I'll nominate you for a public service plaque.
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Governor Corzine's Anti Crime Roll Out; Pt. 3 in Camden

[Hinge]

Let's all start contacting the folks Tommy listed in the post addressed to me.
I'll bump it up so you can check it out.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Michael W. Brim"  wrote:
> >
> > FYI:
> > 
> > We need funding to help get the funding to have our City covered in
> this program  we need camberas in AP
> > 
> > Michael Brim
> 
> Morris, Johnson & Associates, a subsidiary of The Birdsall Services
> Group was awarded a consulting contract to provide a digital video
> surveillance system for Camden. MJA is located in Eatontown.
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Governor Corzine's Anti Crime Roll Out; Pt. 3 in Camden

[dfsavgny]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Michael W. Brim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> FYI:
> 
> We need funding to help get the funding to have our City covered in
this program  we need camberas in AP
> 
> Michael Brim

Morris, Johnson & Associates, a subsidiary of The Birdsall Services
Group was awarded a consulting contract to provide a digital video
surveillance system for Camden. MJA is located in Eatontown.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Transparency

[oakdorf]

>>> I thing the city needs a PR firm.  
> 

I could think of a few people who think we know it all and can do it. 

Send the check, please. We'll even buy some stuff for recreation, with 
our names plastered on it.


If I were them, I would of gone back to the old slogan Jewell of the 
Jersey Shore. 

Then I'd bring in Jewell, the singer, http://www.jeweljk.com/ in the 
Paramount. For the summer '08. She can sing.

As soon as Werner hits the lottery, I'll book her.





 
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[AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review

[Hinge]

So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time.
I loved it.
The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly 
friendly, friendly 
with dignity.
Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool.
The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections.
We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people.
My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection.
For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent.
Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. 
Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. 
Interestingly, they all 
began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing.
They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that 
while Red Bank 
looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too 
expensive, and the 
lack of parking annoying.
When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all 
agreed that it's the 
worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time.




 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Transparency

[Allan Peterson]

What is the job of Jewell?  PR or running events?  If we hired them for PR, 
looking at the website, we hired the wrong company.  However, if their role is 
only to stage these events, then I guess we are getting what we pay for.  I 
thing the city needs a PR firm.  


- Original Message 
From: rook782 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:35:34 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Transparency

I went to Jewell Marketings website. I think I found out why the 
idea of a hundred banjo players was marketed for the Apple Festival. 
Mr. Jewell teaches banjos. Not only are we paying them for 
marketing, were paying for them to have a banjo bash.

One last note, Jewell Marketing is from Fair Haven. Gilmour is a 
council member from there or was one. Is that how we pick talent? 

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> here is a stupid idea, lets have no more bs events, chef puff, no 
> cake,unattended arts festival, apple festival attended because it 
was 
> on a saturday night on cookman, great event for the kids, not!!! 
dec 
> 15th winter carnival, what is this going to be 110 santa clauses 
> looking at the lights and trees put up every year? talk about a 
waste 
> of money this series was the biggest rip off going, one day we 
should 
> all get an acounting of who made what and what the city actually 
got 
> for these half ass events, my take without the facts, just made a 
> couple of people tons of money, if im wrong someone please supply 
> this group with the costs etc. and i will apologize, lets stop the 
> crap and use this money for the cameras, if not this year then 
budget 
> the money were going to save, by not having these events and buy 
the 
> cameras out of nest years budget, again i wish someone perhaps 
> councilman keady who posts here will ask for and give us the costs 
of 
> these events, thank you
>





  

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[AsburyPark] Re: Transparency

[rook782]

I went to Jewell Marketings website.  I think I found out why the 
idea of a hundred banjo players was marketed for the Apple Festival.  
Mr. Jewell teaches banjos.  Not only are we paying them for 
marketing, were paying for them to have a banjo bash.

One last note, Jewell Marketing is from Fair Haven.  Gilmour is a 
council member from there or was one.  Is that how we pick talent? 



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> here is a stupid idea, lets have no more bs events, chef puff, no 
> cake,unattended arts festival, apple festival attended because it 
was 
> on a saturday night on cookman, great event for the kids, not!!! 
dec 
> 15th winter carnival, what is this going to be 110 santa clauses 
> looking at the lights and trees put up every year? talk about a 
waste 
> of money this series was the biggest rip off going, one day we 
should 
> all get an acounting of who made what and what the city actually 
got 
> for these half ass events, my take without the facts,  just made a 
> couple of people tons of money, if im wrong someone please supply 
> this group with the costs etc. and i will apologize, lets stop the 
> crap and use this money for the cameras, if not this year then 
budget 
> the money were going to save, by not having these events and buy 
the 
> cameras out of nest years budget, again i wish someone perhaps 
> councilman keady who posts here will ask for and give us the costs 
of 
> these events, thank you
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: recreation

[justifiedright]

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> Tommy?

The fight against computer/video games is an endless battle. I start 
out by standing next to them mimicing the sound of the keyboard 
(clackity clackity clackity clackity). Then I move to 
sarcasm:  "Cool kids have human friends."  Always ends the same way, 
with me yelling "Off! Now!"

We keep them busy with sports music and CCD.  I hate September to 
June, because we are on a 7 day per week schedule (no joke).  Each 
day we have a kid going somewhere.  We stop it all for the summer.  
No comittments.  Just go out and have fun.

As they are growing I know there is going to come a point when they 
will be able to hang with their friends more than me (starting to 
happen now), so I'm fitting in as much as I can right now.  We are 
at the point where when we go places as a family, my two older ones 
are asking "Can't I just go over so and so's house until you guys 
get back?"   No.  Get in the car.

My daughter is a teenager. I figure once she gets a license, I'm 
toast.  I make her hang with me now - like it or not.

She's usually pretty good about it once we get where we are going 
and I pull the ipod out of her ear.

She's a great kid.  So good she suckered us into having the 3 boys.  
Thought they'd be as easy as her. As they say, NOT!  

Still fun though. 




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation

[oakdorf]

  >Anybody remember a pogo stick?
> 
>

denise is the only repsonse I got for the who should get money in AP:
Pop Warner.

Who needs the pogo stick?

Between the 5 of us, I bet we'd all chip in. 




 
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[AsburyPark] Recreation

[denise]

You guys are really funny thanks for the laughs.  The bottom line is could they 
have spent less money the answer is yes.  Could they have used the money more 
wisely yes but, the money was there and the people were hollering about no 
recreation and the water spouts and the pool at the boys and girls club where 
not everyone could swim at was not enough.  So they got rid of the accident 
waiting to happen pool (hole in the ground filled with garbage) and restored it 
to a safe water park.  So let's take on the next project that the kids can 
enjoy  and make sure we get more for our money.  Anybody remember a pogo stick?


   

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[AsburyPark] Re: Cost of Events

[wernerapnj]

Don't forget those Green Acres Grants

and Historic Preservation Grants.

Werner

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rook782"  wrote:
> >
> > Good Point,  I hope we can get these cost figures.  Transparency is 
> > key to good government in New Jersey.  
> 
> I'll put up $100 towards the cost of YOUR cameras if someone produces
> how dollars are allocated to what:
> 
> UEZ: amount collected (business breakdown), how spent, where, how much
> towards admin.
> 
> Grant money: same as above, all sources.
> 
> Other donations: same as above
> 
> Recreation: same as above. Include amounts contributed bu schools,
if any.
> 
> others: beach ops which I know does the best they can
> 
> Housing: grants, programs, coah,u name it.
> 
> Call it the $100 challenge. Anyone can put it up to add to the kitty.
> 
> Make it accessible on line and near live and there might be a bonus.
> 
> Show the city and state taxpayers the money, AP.
> 
> Note: We'll even leave abbott accountability out of the equation.
>




 
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[AsburyPark] more spingsteen and AP : MAGIC

[oakdorf]

Magic, the title of Springsteen's album will earn Bruce some nice money.

Magic, how AP manages to make money disappear.

That's it for the day. Work to do.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Cost of Events

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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rook782" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Good Point,  I hope we can get these cost figures.  Transparency is 
> key to good government in New Jersey.  

I'll put up $100 towards the cost of YOUR cameras if someone produces
how dollars are allocated to what:

UEZ: amount collected (business breakdown), how spent, where, how much
towards admin.

Grant money: same as above, all sources.

Other donations: same as above

Recreation: same as above. Include amounts contributed bu schools, if any.

others: beach ops which I know does the best they can

Housing: grants, programs, coah,u name it.

Call it the $100 challenge. Anyone can put it up to add to the kitty.

Make it accessible on line and near live and there might be a bonus.

Show the city and state taxpayers the money, AP.

Note: We'll even leave abbott accountability out of the equation.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Cost of Events

[rook782]

Good Point,  I hope we can get these cost figures.  Transparency is 
key to good government in New Jersey.  Since we had the past 
corruption problems, Asbury Park has to double its efforts in its 
open access to information.  I'm curious, as you know, about the 
Mayor's Ball.  


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Michael W. Brim"  
> wrote:
> >
> > FYI:
> > 
> > We need funding to help get the funding to have our City covered 
in 
> this program  we need camberas in AP
> > 
> > Michael Brim
> > 
> >no question about it we need cameras, the uez doesnt have funds? 
> here is a stupid idea, lets have no more bs events, chef puff, no 
> cake,unattended arts festival, apple festival attended because it 
was 
> on a saturday night on cookman, great event for the kids, not!!! 
dec 
> 15th winter carnival, what is this going to be 110 santa clauses 
> looking at the lights and trees put up every year? talk about a 
waste 
> of money this series was the biggest rip off going, one day we 
should 
> all get an acounting of who made what and what the city actually 
got 
> for these half ass events, my take without the facts,  just made a 
> couple of people tons of money, if im wrong someone please supply 
> this group with the costs etc. and i will apologize, lets stop the 
> crap and use this money for the cameras, if not this year then 
budget 
> the money were going to save, by not having these events and buy 
the 
> cameras out of nest years budget, again i wish someone perhaps 
> councilman keady who posts here will ask for and give us the costs 
of 
> these events, thank you
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Governor Corzine's Anti Crime Roll Out; Pt. 3 in Camden

[apoojo]

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> FYI:
> 
> We need funding to help get the funding to have our City covered in 
this program  we need camberas in AP
> 
> Michael Brim
> 
>no question about it we need cameras, the uez doesnt have funds? 
here is a stupid idea, lets have no more bs events, chef puff, no 
cake,unattended arts festival, apple festival attended because it was 
on a saturday night on cookman, great event for the kids, not!!! dec 
15th winter carnival, what is this going to be 110 santa clauses 
looking at the lights and trees put up every year? talk about a waste 
of money this series was the biggest rip off going, one day we should 
all get an acounting of who made what and what the city actually got 
for these half ass events, my take without the facts,  just made a 
couple of people tons of money, if im wrong someone please supply 
this group with the costs etc. and i will apologize, lets stop the 
crap and use this money for the cameras, if not this year then budget 
the money were going to save, by not having these events and buy the 
cameras out of nest years budget, again i wish someone perhaps 
councilman keady who posts here will ask for and give us the costs of 
these events, thank you



 
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