Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage "Like the Dew"
"The Internet has surpassed newspapers as the main source for national and international news for Americans, according to a new survey. http://tinyurl.com/89b3yw Television, however, remains the preferred medium for Americans, according to the survey by the Washington-based Pew Research Center for the People & the Press. Seventy percent of the 1,489 people surveyed by Pew said television is their primary source for national and international news. Forty percent said they get most of their news from the Internet, up from 24 percent in September 2007, and more than the 35 percent who cited newspapers as their main news source." Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage "Like the Dew"
LOL! You are so crazy! Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Happy Kwanzaa and Happy New Year! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John wrote: > > We eschew the Web. A lack of links keeps our operating costs to a > minimum and our Christmas party had only one attendee! Hysterical! Ahem! > > On Dec 23, 2008, at 8:28 AM, justifiedright wrote: > > > Where's the link to the data that other small papers are doing fine? > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage "Like the Dew"
I don't have a link, but Google "alternative newspapers". I found tons of alternatives this way and subscribe to several, not available in this area, (local and free), to the areas they're printed in. Most are filled with ads, like TCN in their "paper" form, but fun to read. The Village Voice is also online! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" wrote: > > Where's the link to the data that other small papers are doing fine? > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: > > > > From Recovering Journalist: "Jumping to the Wrong Conclusion" (a > > professional POV) & a Comment following it (Somewhat testy - lol): > > > > http://tinyurl.com/77zc3h > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage "Like the Dew"
We eschew the Web. A lack of links keeps our operating costs to a minimum and our Christmas party had only one attendee! Hysterical! Ahem! On Dec 23, 2008, at 8:28 AM, justifiedright wrote: > Where's the link to the data that other small papers are doing fine? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage "Like the Dew"
In a message dated 12/23/2008 8:28:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, justifiedri...@yahoo.com writes: Where's the link to the data that other small papers are doing fine? = I dunno. Ask the recovering journalist at his site, comment or email recoveringjournal...@cox.net Anyone know how the Coaster is doing? I like to promote Coaster subscriptions to out-of-town AP lovers, pointing out that, though it does have a web site, it's difficult to navigate and doesn't contain every article in its print version. A bargain because it's delivered on day of publication and you get a $25 gift certificate to a local restaurant. 2 River Times tries to preserve its print status by offering limited web content only after 4 days on newsstands (or immediately to print subscribers). Happy Holidays **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage "Like the Dew"
Where's the link to the data that other small papers are doing fine? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: > > From Recovering Journalist: "Jumping to the Wrong Conclusion" (a > professional POV) & a Comment following it (Somewhat testy - lol): > > http://tinyurl.com/77zc3h > > > > New York Times media columnist David Carr, who is staking out a position as > a staunch defender of the primacy of the traditional newspaper, has come up > with a doozy: a small weekly community newspaper in New Jersey that claims to > be thriving. In fact, Carr says, The TriCityNews of Monmouth County "is > prospering precisely because it aggressively ignores the Web." > > > > Well, not precisely. In fact, probably not much at all. > > The TriCityNews' owner and publisher, Dan Jacobson, is proud of his > print-only stance, Carr reports. "Why would I put anything on the Web?" Carr quotes > Jacobson as saying. "I don't understand how putting content on the Web would > do anything but help destroy our paper." > > Carr and Jacobson have jumped to the wrong conclusion about what makes the > TriCityNews a success. Indeed, many small community papers, with and without > Web sites, are doing just fine, and will continue to do so even as larger > newspapers founder. > > That has nothing to do with print, or the Web. It has everything to do with > the fact that these little papers cover their communities closelyâ"and have > little or no competition in doing so. Web or not, their readers have almost no > place else to go. > > The well-publicized storm that's roiling the newspaper business isn't really > affecting many of these smaller players. When we talk about newspapers in > trouble these days, we're primarily talking about metro dailies, which are being > pummeled on all sides by competition from national news sites, bloggers, > craigslist, hyperlocal sites, Yelp, and others. There are generally myriad other > ways to get most of what's in most dailies. Want international news? It's > everywhere. National news? Ditto. Sports? Ditto, plus ESPN. Entertainment news? > Same thing. > > The one franchise the big metros can still defend, usually, is local newsâ" > and even there, they're probably spread too thin. In fact, they're spread so > thin that they're often undercut by small community papers like ... the > TriCityNews, which covers news and arts in the area around Asbury Park like the dew, > as the saying used to go. > > In fact, the TriCityNews has staked out an even narrower niche, as an > alternative community weekly with an edge. (Its almost non- existent Web site shows > a copy of the paper sitting atop a toilet.) So it's a little offbeat, and > doubtless a nice alternative to Gannett's Asbury Park Press, its nearest daily > competitor. And the Asbury Park Press is no slouch at local coverage itself. > > That unique local angle is what makes the TriCityNews a success, whether or > not it has a Web site. (Ironically, because its alternative audience probably > skews young, it may actually be limiting itself by not reaching that audience > online.) Indeed, it's tiny (10,000 circulation), keeps its editorial costs > low, offers affordable advertising and has annual revenue that's probably a > rounding error for a paper like the Asbury Park Press. Comparing its situation > to the problems of big dailies is really apples and oranges. > > Long after metro dailies wither away, small community and alternative papers > like the TriCityNews are likely to continue in print (and on the Web), > because they're providing unique, focused content to their narrowly defined > audiences (and advertisers). If there was a way to get the same stuff from an > online (or print) competitor, these papers would face a lot of the same structural > pressures as their larger cousins. And they're still feeling the same pinch > from a lousy advertising economy, nonetheless. But their success really > doesn't have anything to do with whether they're distributed in pixels or dead > trees. It's the nature of their content that makes the difference. > > So contrary to what Carr and Jacobson believe, the secret to the > TriCityNews' success probably isn't that it fiercely eschews the Web. It's that it's > fiercely local. > > > > Comments: Not so fast, gentleman. To call Tri-City a community paper is an > error and doesn't do justice to community papers like the 2 River Times and > The Hub which truly "cover" the community. > > Mr. Jacobsons version of community coverage is to borrow stories from these > papers, slam the local daily paper and other weeklies, and launch personal > attacks on it s reviewer when there is a negative article about one of his > advertisers. > He doesn't cover meetings, thereby relying on second hand accounts of what > went on in the "
