Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
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RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
You can pick up The Upstage at The Wonder Bar From: "2fine4u" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comTo: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady BlogDate: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:51:01 - --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED].> wrote:I work with Veterans and you can barely get a blurb in the paper for them, so don't think that you're being ignored. We ALL, are! The Coaster, has been very good at publishing my news and I rely solely on this community based, newspaper. I can hardly get the Tri-City News, unless I visit Home Drugs, on Main St. I never know where I can pick up the Upstage, either. You might also get lucky with the Link and the Neptune Times. Have you tried the Newark Star-Ledger, the Trentonian? You might want to go to them. Just asking.>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, Allan Peterson > > wrote:> >> > it is sad how some have the need to control this board and hammer > away at topics when private emails could be sent.> > > > What's private? We don't have the luxury of being published in the > local papers. Smell the coffee roasting - there's a tight lid around > here on what gets printed. I tried many times to take what I have > posted here to the press. I only work in facts. That's my training and > what I get paid for. Build a case with facts and present those facts. I > have presented things to the press of import to this City. No go. Why? > Kool Aid.> __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park nj real estate United state flag Asbury park nj Asbury park real estate United state travel Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I work with Veterans and you can barely get a blurb in the paper for them, so don't think that you're being ignored. We ALL, are! The Coaster, has been very good at publishing my news and I rely solely on this community based, newspaper. I can hardly get the Tri-City News, unless I visit Home Drugs, on Main St. I never know where I can pick up the Upstage, either. You might also get lucky with the Link and the Neptune Times. Have you tried the Newark Star-Ledger, the Trentonian? You might want to go to them. Just asking. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson > wrote: > > > > it is sad how some have the need to control this board and hammer > away at topics when private emails could be sent. > > > > What's private? We don't have the luxury of being published in the > local papers. Smell the coffee roasting - there's a tight lid around > here on what gets printed. I tried many times to take what I have > posted here to the press. I only work in facts. That's my training and > what I get paid for. Build a case with facts and present those facts. I > have presented things to the press of import to this City. No go. Why? > Kool Aid. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > it is sad how some have the need to control this board and hammer away at topics when private emails could be sent. > What's private? We don't have the luxury of being published in the local papers. Smell the coffee roasting - there's a tight lid around here on what gets printed. I tried many times to take what I have posted here to the press. I only work in facts. That's my training and what I get paid for. Build a case with facts and present those facts. I have presented things to the press of import to this City. No go. Why? Kool Aid. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
it is sad how some have the need to control this board and hammer away at topics when private emails could be sent. - Original Message From: apoojo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 3:16:05 PMSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:>> I'm not enjoying this discussion anymore. It's just getting too ugly for my taste.cant say i blame you, it seems like many of these posts started with the letter from disanto to keady, the only version i have read is the one in todays press, truthfully im not sure who is at fault, but perhaps disanto can share with us the action he or the bd. took against the teacher and principal, if they were wrong, what action he directed to the 2 school superintendents to make sure this does not happen again ,if it was wrong,( please do not hide behind its a personnel issue and you can not discuss it because thats B.S. it is a policy issue,more than just tommy know the law) you can not blame just keady, but no one ever seems to go after the ones who seem to be consistently wrong, the bd president and his majority voting block, where are the taxpayers goups who have attacked previous bds for far fewer mistakes than this majority has made? cmon guys and gals there is such a word as consintency, which isnt being adhered to, we should all be on a level playing field, and all held to the same constructive criticism, but that is not happening, it seems to be easier to have knee jerk reactions and kick keady, but not the bd. and its way too many administrators. i do not believe mayor and council feel threatened by keady, and trying to make him look bad, that to me is ridiculous, Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park nj real estate United state flag Asbury park nj Asbury park real estate United state travel Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not enjoying this discussion anymore. It's just getting too ugly for my taste. cant say i blame you, it seems like many of these posts started with the letter from disanto to keady, the only version i have read is the one in todays press, truthfully im not sure who is at fault, but perhaps disanto can share with us the action he or the bd. took against the teacher and principal, if they were wrong, what action he directed to the 2 school superintendents to make sure this does not happen again ,if it was wrong,( please do not hide behind its a personnel issue and you can not discuss it because thats B.S. it is a policy issue,more than just tommy know the law) you can not blame just keady, but no one ever seems to go after the ones who seem to be consistently wrong, the bd president and his majority voting block, where are the taxpayers goups who have attacked previous bds for far fewer mistakes than this majority has made? cmon guys and gals there is such a word as consintency, which isnt being adhered to, we should all be on a level playing field, and all held to the same constructive criticism, but that is not happening, it seems to be easier to have knee jerk reactions and kick keady, but not the bd. and its way too many administrators. i do not believe mayor and council feel threatened by keady, and trying to make him look bad, that to me is ridiculous, Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment:
I'm not enjoying this discussion
anymore. It's just getting too ugly for my taste.I'll check back with this
board in a few weeks to see if there's anything new to talk
about.Jack
Jack, if you check the archives you'll notice that justified left this
group in the spring and returned on October 13. His first post: "Keady Resignation Demand Today I called
for Jim Keady to resign his City Council position, (message
18066)
And then the tenor of posts got hotter and as you say now ugly.
Compare the posts here during his hiatus. A much more civil tone
here, though not always agreeable.
justified brings out the worst in people.
Always pouring more oil on troubled waters.
.
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[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
Date:
11/9/2006 2:17:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent on:
I'm not enjoying this discussion anymore. It's just getting too ugly for my
taste.I'll check back with this board in a few weeks to see if there's
anything new to talk about.Jack--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com,
"justifiedright" ...> wrote:>> --- In
[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com,
"dfsavgny" wrote:> > > Tell me Tom, what does
your hometown (Howell right?) do? Tell me > > what steps you have
taken going to other towns asking them to take > > the load off of
AP's shoulders? We all know you're in politics in > > the County, what
steps have you taken with your fellow Republicans > > to have their
areas share some of the social burdens borne by AP?> > >
Thanks for bringing it up. I have done so on the County level and >
continue to do so (on the state level too). I will be successful.>
> I talked about it on the Radio last week. I talked about it in >
front of Jim Keady at Holy Spirit Church. I talked about it at my >
fundraiser last week. I'm actively lobbying for it and am trying to > do
more.> > The people I have to fight with to get the money for
Asbury Park is > radical environmentalists, who are controlling that
money - hundreds > of millions of dollars each year.> >
Caring, "want to help" enlightened, tolerant liberals in the >
environmental movemnet, and they are hurting Asbury Park, the > poorest
City in the County. Bet I'm the only one not surprised.> > Bet I'm
the only one not just talking about having the state and > county share
the burdens of Asbury Park, I'm actively trying to do > somehting about
it.> > Now go play basketball with Jim
Keady.>
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], In reference to your comment: You're the one that posted that stuff about JK cursing here (why don't you reprint your apology to JK for doing that). See message 18874 "My apology to Keady and his response." I only told you after you emailed me 10 times as Jim's supporter. I was hoping to get you to stop stalking me. See message # 18836 "Private emails..." and message #18838 "To be Fair and Balanced." Especially my explanation that I was not a Keady supporter. Further there were 6 emails from me (about politics, Marxism, Zinn et al.) from responding to those initiated by you. That proves my point from earlier: You "wanted to help" Jim Keady but your actions hurt him. Wanting to help is irrelevant. We all want to help. All of the above proves what I've thought all along: You don't read and consider what others say; you simply react, and to things which weren't said. All heat; no light. ====Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog Date: 11/9/2006 2:08:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent on: You're the one that posted that stuff about JK cursing here (why don't you reprint your apology to JK for doing that).I only told you after you emailed me 10 times as Jim's supporter. I was hoping to get you to stop stalking me.Since you were his supporter, I never dreamed you would put it on the 'net. I figured you were in his camp.You were so blinded in your desire to hurt me you hurt him.That proves my point from earlier: You "wanted to help" Jim Keady but your actions hurt him. Wanting to help is irrelevant. We all want to help.You two should start a "Good intentions/bad results" club.--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]. wrote:>> > Hello justifiedright@...,> In reference to your half-truths: > : > > > When I called him back he dropped F-Bombs, called me names, etc. and > the next day his wife emailed me and called me names.> > > Then Keady apologized to you:> > > > Hello james.keady@...,> In reference to your comment: > > > Tom, > I am writing to apologize for some of the comments and language that I used > during our telephone conversation last night. Regardless of how I felt, they > have no place in honest discourse. I hope that you accept my apology and > that we move forward in a spirit of continued dialogue. > > > > And you responded on October 10:> > > > Hello james.keady@...,> In reference to your comment: > > > Jim you don't have to apologize to me. We are two fairly "regular" guys. > Our conversations are going to be a little salty sometimes. That's never > going to be shared with anyone or ever held against you. I'm glad you feel > comfortable enough with me to speak to me like a regular guy.> > > :> > So your word is is good huh?> > > > Original Message> Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog Date: 11/9/2006 11:42:02 A.M. Eastern > Standard Time From: _justifiedright@..._ > (mailto:justifiedri[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com) > Sent on: > > > > > > > Jack I tried talking to him. He called my house repeatedly. He > sent me an email accusing me of ducking his calls (sorry but I was > busy at the moment).> > When I called him back he dropped F-Bombs, called me names, etc. and > the next day his wife emailed me and called me names.> > You suggest to me this is a guy open to discussion?> > It isn't because of me he is losing the faith of so many. It's > because of how he treats people.> > --- In _AsburyPark@yahoogroAsburyP_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com) , > "Hinge" wrote:> >> > The agenda seems to be bias against JK, and from what i've read > here, it existed before > > the shooting...so maybe they are using the shooting as a way to > get him out of there.> > One thing is really bothering me. Is anybody who is anti-Keady > actually going to him > > directly to ask about the gang comment, or anything else they have > issue with. JK seems > > pretty open to discussion. Why not discuss?> > --- In _AsburyPark@yahoogroAsburyP_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com) , > Allan Peterson > > wrote:> > >> > > please define the agenda?> > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Hinge > > > To: _AsburyPark@yahoogroAsburyP_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com)
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're the one that posted that stuff about JK cursing here (why > don't you reprint your apology to JK for doing that). > He did alredy but the point of his post was that you left out the point that JK apologized to you. Distort and omit. That's your game. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for bringing it up. I have done so on the County level and > continue to do so (on the state level too). I will be successful. You are out of your f*ing mind (how's that Allan?)! You want to stop the preservation of open space not help the poor. Not take the load off of AP. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! What have you done to have YOUR town house the homeless? What have you done to have YOUR town open soup kitchens to relive the pressure on AP? What have you done to have YOUR town open a methadone clinic so we can close ours? Nothing. Nada. Zilch. You want to drill for oil in Alaska too. Who cares. What a bullshit srtist you are. You are like those cardboard figures in the Verizon commercial. Nothing behind it. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
I'm not enjoying this discussion anymore. It's just getting too ugly for my taste. I'll check back with this board in a few weeks to see if there's anything new to talk about. Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > Tell me Tom, what does your hometown (Howell right?) do? Tell me > > what steps you have taken going to other towns asking them to take > > the load off of AP's shoulders? We all know you're in politics in > > the County, what steps have you taken with your fellow Republicans > > to have their areas share some of the social burdens borne by AP? > > > Thanks for bringing it up. I have done so on the County level and > continue to do so (on the state level too). I will be successful. > > I talked about it on the Radio last week. I talked about it in > front of Jim Keady at Holy Spirit Church. I talked about it at my > fundraiser last week. I'm actively lobbying for it and am trying to > do more. > > The people I have to fight with to get the money for Asbury Park is > radical environmentalists, who are controlling that money - hundreds > of millions of dollars each year. > > Caring, "want to help" enlightened, tolerant liberals in the > environmental movemnet, and they are hurting Asbury Park, the > poorest City in the County. Bet I'm the only one not surprised. > > Bet I'm the only one not just talking about having the state and > county share the burdens of Asbury Park, I'm actively trying to do > somehting about it. > > Now go play basketball with Jim Keady. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment:
To me, the slamming of JK was already
waiting in the wings, and his detractors used the whole shooting mess to
push their agenda.
And whether the "waiting in the wings" theory is true or not doesn't
matter.
That's the perception being created. Fresh in some minds was
the Iraq war, "waiting in the wings" for something to justify it.
True or not, that's the perception that drove some to oppose the neocon's
war..
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[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
Date:
11/9/2006 10:02:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent on:
Well said, and I don't understand why some of the others here aren't taking
that into account. To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the
wings, and his detractors used the whole shooting mess to push their
agenda.--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com,
"theshortsalepro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I think I read Keady
said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that > children/youth/students are
part of the solution to the problems faced > by Asbury Park.>
> He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. He is
> trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice.>
> How better to let the kids know that the adults care about them and
> their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the kids
> develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows how
> Asbury can benefit?>
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[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
You're the one that posted that stuff about JK cursing here (why don't you reprint your apology to JK for doing that). I only told you after you emailed me 10 times as Jim's supporter. I was hoping to get you to stop stalking me. Since you were his supporter, I never dreamed you would put it on the 'net. I figured you were in his camp. You were so blinded in your desire to hurt me you hurt him. That proves my point from earlier: You "wanted to help" Jim Keady but your actions hurt him. Wanting to help is irrelevant. We all want to help. You two should start a "Good intentions/bad results" club. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], > In reference to your half-truths: > : > > > When I called him back he dropped F-Bombs, called me names, etc. and > the next day his wife emailed me and called me names. > > > Then Keady apologized to you: > > > > Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], > In reference to your comment: > > > Tom, > I am writing to apologize for some of the comments and language that I used > during our telephone conversation last night. Regardless of how I felt, they > have no place in honest discourse. I hope that you accept my apology and > that we move forward in a spirit of continued dialogue. > > > > And you responded on October 10: > > > > Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], > In reference to your comment: > > > Jim you don't have to apologize to me. We are two fairly "regular" guys. > Our conversations are going to be a little salty sometimes. That's never > going to be shared with anyone or ever held against you. I'm glad you feel > comfortable enough with me to speak to me like a regular guy. > > > : > > So your word is is good huh? > > > > Original Message > Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog Date: 11/9/2006 11:42:02 A.M. Eastern > Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) > Sent on: > > > > > > > Jack I tried talking to him. He called my house repeatedly. He > sent me an email accusing me of ducking his calls (sorry but I was > busy at the moment). > > When I called him back he dropped F-Bombs, called me names, etc. and > the next day his wife emailed me and called me names. > > You suggest to me this is a guy open to discussion? > > It isn't because of me he is losing the faith of so many. It's > because of how he treats people. > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , > "Hinge" wrote: > > > > The agenda seems to be bias against JK, and from what i've read > here, it existed before > > the shooting...so maybe they are using the shooting as a way to > get him out of there. > > One thing is really bothering me. Is anybody who is anti-Keady > actually going to him > > directly to ask about the gang comment, or anything else they have > issue with. JK seems > > pretty open to discussion. Why not discuss? > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , > Allan Peterson > wrote: > > > > > > please define the agenda? > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Hinge > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) > > > Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:51:10 AM > > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog > > > > > > Well said, and I don't understand why some of the others here > aren't taking that into > > account. > > > To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the wings, and > his detractors used the > > > whole shooting mess to push their agenda. > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "theshortsalepro" > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that > > > > children/youth/ students are part of the solution to the > problems faced > > > > by Asbury Park. > > > > > > > > He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. > He is > > > > trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice. > > > > > > > > How better to let the kids know that the adults care about > them and > > > > their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the > kids > &
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tell me Tom, what does your hometown (Howell right?) do? Tell me > what steps you have taken going to other towns asking them to take > the load off of AP's shoulders? We all know you're in politics in > the County, what steps have you taken with your fellow Republicans > to have their areas share some of the social burdens borne by AP? Thanks for bringing it up. I have done so on the County level and continue to do so (on the state level too). I will be successful. I talked about it on the Radio last week. I talked about it in front of Jim Keady at Holy Spirit Church. I talked about it at my fundraiser last week. I'm actively lobbying for it and am trying to do more. The people I have to fight with to get the money for Asbury Park is radical environmentalists, who are controlling that money - hundreds of millions of dollars each year. Caring, "want to help" enlightened, tolerant liberals in the environmental movemnet, and they are hurting Asbury Park, the poorest City in the County. Bet I'm the only one not surprised. Bet I'm the only one not just talking about having the state and county share the burdens of Asbury Park, I'm actively trying to do somehting about it. Now go play basketball with Jim Keady. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment:
I was born and raised with goons. It's
provincial assholes that really get my goat.
Well, consider this. The more that justifiedright is their
mouthpiece, the bigger the hole that's dug. And it's all on the record,
much of it here.
Why aren't those who oppose Keady because they don't buy into his vision
for the city---why aren't they distancing themselves from justified's
tactics.
I'm too stupid
to run away.
Cool! In this limited sense, stupid is good!
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--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. wrote:>> > Not so fast Compare!
There's talk of your running for city council.Wouldn't that be comical!
I'd probably wind up on death row.> Hope your not gonna "cut and run"
'cause of one or two goons.I was born and raised with goons. It's
provincial assholes that really get my goat. I'm too stupid to run away. I'm
the kind of guy who you just have to kill.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From his response I was lead to believe that this was a situation he was working on with others howevere these otheres were not law enforcement. I stressed how his information provided no comfort and should be in the hands of the local police and county officials. You ever hear about criminal informants? When the police want to find a bad guy or what is going on in the streets do you think they ask one another or the players? Read the gang survey I posted about - the cops don't really know how many. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
Hello
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your half-truths:
:
When I called him back he dropped
F-Bombs, called me names, etc. and the next day his wife emailed me and
called me names.
Then Keady apologized to you:
Hello
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment:
Tom,
I am writing to
apologize for some of the comments and language that I used during our
telephone conversation last night. Regardless of how I felt, they have
no place in honest discourse. I hope that you accept my apology and that
we move forward in a spirit of continued dialogue.
And you responded on October 10:
Hello
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment:
Jim you don't have to apologize to
me. We are two fairly "regular" guys. Our conversations are going
to be a little salty sometimes. That's never going to be
shared with anyone or ever held against you. I'm glad you feel
comfortable enough with me to speak to me like a regular
guy.
:
So your word is is good huh?
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Jack I tried talking to him. He called my house repeatedly. He sent me an
email accusing me of ducking his calls (sorry but I was busy at the
moment).When I called him back he dropped F-Bombs, called me names, etc.
and the next day his wife emailed me and called me names.You suggest
to me this is a guy open to discussion?It isn't because of me he is
losing the faith of so many. It's because of how he treats
people.--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com,
"Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> The agenda seems to be
bias against JK, and from what i've read here, it existed before >
the shooting...so maybe they are using the shooting as a way to get him out
of there.> One thing is really bothering me. Is anybody who is anti-Keady
actually going to him > directly to ask about the gang comment, or
anything else they have issue with. JK seems > pretty open to
discussion. Why not discuss?> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com,
Allan Peterson > wrote:> >> >
please define the agenda?> > > > > > -
Original Message > > From: Hinge > > To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:51:10 AM> > Subject:
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog> > > > Well said, and I don't
understand why some of the others here aren't taking that into >
account. > > To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the
wings, and his detractors used the > > whole shooting mess to push
their agenda.> > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com,
"theshortsalepro" wrote:> > >> > >
I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that > > >
children/youth/ students are part of the solution to the problems faced
> > > by Asbury Park.> > > > > > He is
trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. He is > >
> trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice.> > >
> > > How better to let the kids know that the adults care about
them and > > > their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em
so? If the kids > > > develop a feeling of self worth and self
respect... who knows how > > > Asbury can benefit?> >
>> > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
_>
> Do you Yahoo!?> > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo!
Mail beta.> > http://new.mail.yahoo.com>
>>
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Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], In reference to your comment: This is the heart of the matter Dan. The heart of the matter for me is your smear campaign: innuendo about assassination and Marxism and the Columbus Day incident. All yellow journalism. The case you make below sounds pretty solid. Why did no one in the city, or you in your column, make that case before the mission became a done deal? I make the above comments for the archive records, not for any response from you since they are mostly models of spin, smarm, and snideness. Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog Date: 11/9/2006 12:03:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent on: This is the heart of the matter Dan.If you look at the whole picture, Asbury Park over the years has done enough.We were the dumping grounds for Marlboro hospital. We were the ones who allowed our housing stock to go mutifamily to help the poor. We are the ones who built federally subsidized housing to house the poor. We are the ones that take in more section 8 than any other town in the county.We are the ones suffering the segregated High School so we alone have to educate the poor to the exclusion of the rest of the County.We are ones to house the County's methodone clinic.We are the base for the Salvation Army.We are the home of interfaith neighbors.In fact, I understand there are over 80 non-profits helping the poor, and heard someone say once that non-profits helping the poor is Asbury Park's largest industry.We are the ones with 39 churches all helping the poor. We are the ones who allowed homeless people to sleep at City Hall, even attracting homeless from other towns.We are the ones perpetually trying more initiatives to help the poor.All of that goodwill, YET EVERYTIME THERE IS A MORAL OBLIGATION TO HELP SOMEONE ELSE, EVERYONE LOOKS TO ASBURY PARK TO SHOULDER THE LOAD!The town with the most limited resources is tapped to handle the county and state's pressing social problems.When Father Bob wanted to build the Center, he was pastor of a church with srawling, open acres in Wayside. Not in his backyard - he built it here.Now comes the Market Street Mission to bring us more of the poor to help.Not one other town in Monmouth County does a fraction of what we do for the poor. Yet when a new challenge comes, they look at us and start holding "moral obligation" over our heads. Where is the moral obligatins of the other 51 towns in the county? How dare anyone, EVER look at the people if Asbury Park and inquire whether they will step up to help the poor. Go ask the other 51 towns if they will, for once, help the poor instead of Asbury Park.Now comes Jim Keady. He marches into the place that is weary from helping the poor, and starts preaching to us that we have to do more. That is why he comes off as so arrogant. We've done all that and he rides past the other 51 Monmouth towns to take us to task for not doing enough? It's insulting.If someone like you Dan comes into the middle of an argument between me and Jim Keady, and see's Jim saying do more for the poor and me disagreeing with him, it is easy to paint him as the good guy and me as the bad.That of course is intellectually lazy, because knowing all the facts above leads to the conclusion that Jim Keady is going to give us the straw that breaks the camel's back, while I want to (long overdue) strengthen the camel.If poverty is our problem, we shouldn't expand poverty here. We need a bigger base of middle class and (finally, hopefully) some upper class.Let Jim Keady fight for the poor in some other town that isn't doing anything for the poor. I'd support him.--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED].> wrote:>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, Allan Peterson > > wrote:> >> > please define the agenda?> > They believe keady will fill the city with soup kitchens and shelters, > in other words, to give it to the poor. That has been said here > verbatim.> __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park nj real estate United state flag Asbury park nj Asbury park real estate United state travel Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
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I had responded to this before but the site had an error. I apologize it appears twice. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is the heart of the matter Dan. Thanks for admitting it. > If you look at the whole picture, Asbury Park over the years has > done enough. I agree with you and from what I have heard him say publicly, so does JK. Were you absent or asleep when he said as much at a council meeting? How about when JK said he wanted to help change the laws that made this possible? > We were the ones who allowed our housing stock to go mutifamily to > help the poor. And line the pockets of landlords and city fathers. > We are the ones that take in more section 8 than any other town in > the county. Ibid. > We are the ones suffering the segregated High School so we alone > have to educate the poor to the exclusion of the rest of the County. Send your kids there. Be part of the solution. > We are ones to house the County's methodone clinic. Yes, I think I am the one who pointed that out originally. > We are the base for the Salvation Army. They're on MY block. How about yours? > We are the home of interfaith neighbors. Are they bad? > We are the ones who allowed homeless people to sleep at City Hall, > even attracting homeless from other towns. Did Keady start that? > Not one other town in Monmouth County does a fraction of what we do > for the poor. Yet when a new challenge comes, they look at us and > start holding "moral obligation" over our heads. No argument with you there. > > Where is the moral obligatins of the other 51 towns in the county? > How dare anyone, EVER look at the people if Asbury Park and inquire > whether they will step up to help the poor. Go ask the other 51 > towns if they will, for once, help the poor instead of Asbury Park. Tell me Tom, what does your hometown (Howell right?) do? Tell me what steps you have taken going to other towns asking them to take the load off of AP's shoulders? We all know you're in politics in the County, what steps have you taken with your fellow Republicans to have their areas share some of the social burdens borne by AP? > Now comes Jim Keady. He marches into the place that is weary from > helping the poor, and starts preaching to us that we have to do > more. > > That is why he comes off as so arrogant. We've done all that and he > rides past the other 51 Monmouth towns to take us to task for not > doing enough? It's insulting. Some I assume perceive him as holier than thou. I don't. I don't need anyone as a measuring stick to know how far I fall short in social responsibility. > If someone like you Dan comes into the middle of an argument between > me and Jim Keady, and see's Jim saying do more for the poor and me > disagreeing with him, it is easy to paint him as the good guy and me > as the bad. You're viewed on the basis of what you do. You have distorted and lied about someone. You have engaged in character assassination. > That of course is intellectually lazy, because knowing all the facts > above leads to the conclusion that Jim Keady is going to give us the > straw that breaks the camel's back, while I want to (long overdue) > strengthen the camel. The best thing you can do is buy a home here and don't rent it out. You want someone else to be first. You want someone else to be the guinea pig. Talk is cheap Tom. You want to leave it to the gay community, even though by all regards, you think they wear rings in the strangest places. You don't want to do it yourself. You just want to throw molotov cocktails. Go mend the ways of Howell's governance - that's where you have a vested interest. > > If poverty is our problem, we shouldn't expand poverty here. We need > a bigger base of middle class and (finally, hopefully) some upper > class. Ibid. It has to start somewhere Tom. You have to be in it to win it. I've seen JK fight for local jobs. That's not expanding poverty. I've seen JK fight for affordable (not public) housing. That's not expanding poverty. I've seen JK fight to have Asbury Partners live up to its obligations to restore the waterfront. That's not expanding poverty. You never, never are able to back up your claims. You use the tactics of McCarthy. You are a fear mongerer. The nation just voted out your buddies, and if we could - throw out the President - for the same thing. Preying on people's fear with lies and distortion. You and the others doing this should be ashamed of yourselves. It's despicable. > Let Jim Keady fight for the poor in some other town that isn't doing > anything for the poor. Like where you live. Like where all those Italian-Americans live who were so upset about Columbus Day. There was something in the paper today about the Bush administration - that the scary thing is that it believes its own nonsense. You're a clone. > Yahoo! Groups Lin
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Not so fast Compare! There's talk of your running for city council. Wouldn't that be comical! I'd probably wind up on death row. > Hope your not gonna "cut and run" 'cause of one or two goons. I was born and raised with goons. It's provincial assholes that really get my goat. I'm too stupid to run away. I'm the kind of guy who you just have to kill. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Well, I must admit that some pretty valid points were written. I'd like to ask this though...couldn't Asbury serve both it's legacy of poor and unfortunate people at the same time as the people here now, and the people Asbury hopes to attract? Other cities do this, although most are larger then AP. Cities like Portland OR. Hoboken does a pretty good job of balancing the classes. Can't something be learned from those places? And, is it right to vilefy Jim Keady just because he wants to help people? Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > > I couldn't have said it any better, you are 100% correct. He should > go to S Belmar his hometown and try doing this shit there. Maybe > that's why he's not there. They probabaly ran him out of town. > > > > > > > > This is the heart of the matter Dan. > > > > If you look at the whole picture, Asbury Park over the years has > > done enough. > > > > We were the dumping grounds for Marlboro hospital. > > > > We were the ones who allowed our housing stock to go mutifamily to > > help the poor. > > > > We are the ones who built federally subsidized housing to house the > > poor. > > > > We are the ones that take in more section 8 than any other town in > > the county. > > > > We are the ones suffering the segregated High School so we alone > > have to educate the poor to the exclusion of the rest of the County. > > > > We are ones to house the County's methodone clinic. > > > > We are the base for the Salvation Army. > > > > We are the home of interfaith neighbors. > > > > In fact, I understand there are over 80 non-profits helping the > > poor, and heard someone say once that non-profits helping the poor > > is Asbury Park's largest industry. > > > > We are the ones with 39 churches all helping the poor. > > > > We are the ones who allowed homeless people to sleep at City Hall, > > even attracting homeless from other towns. > > > > We are the ones perpetually trying more initiatives to help the > poor. > > > > All of that goodwill, YET EVERYTIME THERE IS A MORAL OBLIGATION TO > > HELP SOMEONE ELSE, EVERYONE LOOKS TO ASBURY PARK TO SHOULDER THE > > LOAD! > > > > The town with the most limited resources is tapped to handle the > > county and state's pressing social problems. > > > > When Father Bob wanted to build the Center, he was pastor of a > > church with srawling, open acres in Wayside. Not in his backyard - > > he built it here. > > > > Now comes the Market Street Mission to bring us more of the poor to > > help. > > > > Not one other town in Monmouth County does a fraction of what we do > > for the poor. Yet when a new challenge comes, they look at us and > > start holding "moral obligation" over our heads. > > > > Where is the moral obligatins of the other 51 towns in the county? > > How dare anyone, EVER look at the people if Asbury Park and inquire > > whether they will step up to help the poor. Go ask the other 51 > > towns if they will, for once, help the poor instead of Asbury Park. > > > > Now comes Jim Keady. He marches into the place that is weary from > > helping the poor, and starts preaching to us that we have to do > > more. > > > > That is why he comes off as so arrogant. We've done all that and > he > > rides past the other 51 Monmouth towns to take us to task for not > > doing enough? It's insulting. > > > > If someone like you Dan comes into the middle of an argument > between > > me and Jim Keady, and see's Jim saying do more for the poor and me > > disagreeing with him, it is easy to paint him as the good guy and > me > > as the bad. > > > > That of course is intellectually lazy, because knowing all the > facts > > above leads to the conclusion that Jim Keady is going to give us > the > > straw that breaks the camel's back, while I want to (long overdue) > > strengthen the camel. > > > > If poverty is our problem, we shouldn't expand poverty here. We > need > > a bigger base of middle class and (finally, hopefully) some upper > > class. > > > > Let Jim Keady fight for the poor in some other town that isn't > doing > > anything for the poor. > > > > I'd support him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > please define the agenda? > > > > > > They believe keady will fill the city with soup kitchens and > > shelters, > > > in other words, to give it to the poor. That has been said here > > > verbatim. > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To chan
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
In reference to Dan's
frustration
:
Tell your boys to buy my home. I had it
with the nonsense in this city.
Not so fast Compare! There's talk of your running for city
council.
Hope your not gonna "cut and run" 'cause of one or two goons.
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--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com,
"oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> ---keady should keep
his ass right where it is - on the council. You are still the most
level-headed of us all. Tell your boys to buy my home. I had it with the
nonsense in this city.
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Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], In reference to your comment: Somewhat convenient how you get news before anyone. Hmmm. Is Keady the only one in town in favor of transparency, full disclosure, and the Sunshine laws? Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog Date: 11/9/2006 10:30:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent on: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, "justifiedright" ...> wrote:>> So you really are making the case that Jim Keady is right and the > rest of the City is wrong.> > Says alot.>The rest of the city? Tom, you are a paid hack for the powers in this city. Loffredo, Sanders and Bruno have indentations on their asses from your lips. Bruno rides in your mustang in the parade. There's probably a lot more. When you no longer feed at the trough of city hall then maybe you will be taken seriously. Right now you're just a pain in the ass. I would call you the Borat of attorneys but I wouldn't do that to Borat.Somewhat convenient how you get news before anyone. Hmmm. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park nj real estate United state flag Asbury park nj Asbury park real estate United state travel Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I couldn't have said it any better, you are 100% correct. He should go to S Belmar his hometown and try doing this shit there. Maybe that's why he's not there. They probabaly ran him out of town. This is the heart of the matter Dan. > > If you look at the whole picture, Asbury Park over the years has > done enough. > > We were the dumping grounds for Marlboro hospital. > > We were the ones who allowed our housing stock to go mutifamily to > help the poor. > > We are the ones who built federally subsidized housing to house the > poor. > > We are the ones that take in more section 8 than any other town in > the county. > > We are the ones suffering the segregated High School so we alone > have to educate the poor to the exclusion of the rest of the County. > > We are ones to house the County's methodone clinic. > > We are the base for the Salvation Army. > > We are the home of interfaith neighbors. > > In fact, I understand there are over 80 non-profits helping the > poor, and heard someone say once that non-profits helping the poor > is Asbury Park's largest industry. > > We are the ones with 39 churches all helping the poor. > > We are the ones who allowed homeless people to sleep at City Hall, > even attracting homeless from other towns. > > We are the ones perpetually trying more initiatives to help the poor. > > All of that goodwill, YET EVERYTIME THERE IS A MORAL OBLIGATION TO > HELP SOMEONE ELSE, EVERYONE LOOKS TO ASBURY PARK TO SHOULDER THE > LOAD! > > The town with the most limited resources is tapped to handle the > county and state's pressing social problems. > > When Father Bob wanted to build the Center, he was pastor of a > church with srawling, open acres in Wayside. Not in his backyard - > he built it here. > > Now comes the Market Street Mission to bring us more of the poor to > help. > > Not one other town in Monmouth County does a fraction of what we do > for the poor. Yet when a new challenge comes, they look at us and > start holding "moral obligation" over our heads. > > Where is the moral obligatins of the other 51 towns in the county? > How dare anyone, EVER look at the people if Asbury Park and inquire > whether they will step up to help the poor. Go ask the other 51 > towns if they will, for once, help the poor instead of Asbury Park. > > Now comes Jim Keady. He marches into the place that is weary from > helping the poor, and starts preaching to us that we have to do > more. > > That is why he comes off as so arrogant. We've done all that and he > rides past the other 51 Monmouth towns to take us to task for not > doing enough? It's insulting. > > If someone like you Dan comes into the middle of an argument between > me and Jim Keady, and see's Jim saying do more for the poor and me > disagreeing with him, it is easy to paint him as the good guy and me > as the bad. > > That of course is intellectually lazy, because knowing all the facts > above leads to the conclusion that Jim Keady is going to give us the > straw that breaks the camel's back, while I want to (long overdue) > strengthen the camel. > > If poverty is our problem, we shouldn't expand poverty here. We need > a bigger base of middle class and (finally, hopefully) some upper > class. > > Let Jim Keady fight for the poor in some other town that isn't doing > anything for the poor. > > I'd support him. > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson > > wrote: > > > > > > please define the agenda? > > > > They believe keady will fill the city with soup kitchens and > shelters, > > in other words, to give it to the poor. That has been said here > > verbatim. > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Thanks for the answer Allan Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, if what you say is correct...F-bombs etc, calling names, then it sounds like the issue > is deeper then I realize. I'd be really surprised if JK as well as his wife would be doing these > things. > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" wrote: > > > > Jack I tried talking to him. He called my house repeatedly. He > > sent me an email accusing me of ducking his calls (sorry but I was > > busy at the moment). > > > > When I called him back he dropped F-Bombs, called me names, etc. and > > the next day his wife emailed me and called me names. > > > > You suggest to me this is a guy open to discussion? > > > > It isn't because of me he is losing the faith of so many. It's > > because of how he treats people. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > The agenda seems to be bias against JK, and from what i've read > > here, it existed before > > > the shooting...so maybe they are using the shooting as a way to > > get him out of there. > > > One thing is really bothering me. Is anybody who is anti-Keady > > actually going to him > > > directly to ask about the gang comment, or anything else they have > > issue with. JK seems > > > pretty open to discussion. Why not discuss? > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson > > wrote: > > > > > > > > please define the agenda? > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > > From: Hinge > > > > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:51:10 AM > > > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog > > > > > > > > Well said, and I don't understand why some of the others here > > aren't taking that into > > > account. > > > > To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the wings, and > > his detractors used the > > > > whole shooting mess to push their agenda. > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "theshortsalepro" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that > > > > > children/youth/ students are part of the solution to the > > problems faced > > > > > by Asbury Park. > > > > > > > > > > He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. > > He is > > > > > trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice. > > > > > > > > > > How better to let the kids know that the adults care about > > them and > > > > > their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the > > kids > > > > > develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows > > how > > > > > Asbury can benefit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > ___ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > > > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
Well, if what you say is correct...F-bombs etc, calling names, then it sounds like the issue is deeper then I realize. I'd be really surprised if JK as well as his wife would be doing these things. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jack I tried talking to him. He called my house repeatedly. He > sent me an email accusing me of ducking his calls (sorry but I was > busy at the moment). > > When I called him back he dropped F-Bombs, called me names, etc. and > the next day his wife emailed me and called me names. > > You suggest to me this is a guy open to discussion? > > It isn't because of me he is losing the faith of so many. It's > because of how he treats people. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > The agenda seems to be bias against JK, and from what i've read > here, it existed before > > the shooting...so maybe they are using the shooting as a way to > get him out of there. > > One thing is really bothering me. Is anybody who is anti-Keady > actually going to him > > directly to ask about the gang comment, or anything else they have > issue with. JK seems > > pretty open to discussion. Why not discuss? > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson > wrote: > > > > > > please define the agenda? > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Hinge > > > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:51:10 AM > > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog > > > > > > Well said, and I don't understand why some of the others here > aren't taking that into > > account. > > > To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the wings, and > his detractors used the > > > whole shooting mess to push their agenda. > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "theshortsalepro" > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that > > > > children/youth/ students are part of the solution to the > problems faced > > > > by Asbury Park. > > > > > > > > He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. > He is > > > > trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice. > > > > > > > > How better to let the kids know that the adults care about > them and > > > > their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the > kids > > > > develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows > how > > > > Asbury can benefit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > ___ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
I have asked directly about the gang comment. He said he was unable to cite sources do to the nature of how the information was gathered. From his response I was lead to believe that this was a situation he was working on with others howevere these otheres were not law enforcement. I stressed how his information provided no comfort and should be in the hands of the local police and county officials. - Original Message From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 11:15:34 AMSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog The agenda seems to be bias against JK, and from what i've read here, it existed before the shooting...so maybe they are using the shooting as a way to get him out of there.One thing is really bothering me. Is anybody who is anti-Keady actually going to him directly to ask about the gang comment, or anything else they have issue with. JK seems pretty open to discussion. Why not discuss?--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Allan Peterson wrote:>> please define the agenda?> > > - Original Message > From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com> Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:51:10 AM> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog> > Well said, and I don't understand why some of the others here aren't taking that into account. > To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the wings, and his detractors used the > whole shooting mess to push their agenda.> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "theshortsalepro" wrote:> >> > I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that > > children/youth/ students are part of the solution to the problems faced > > by Asbury Park.> > > > He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. He is > > trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice.> > > > How better to let the kids know that the adults care about them and > > their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the kids > > develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows how > > Asbury can benefit?> >> > > > > > > _ _ _ _ _ _> Do you Yahoo!?> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.> http://new.mail. yahoo.com> Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park nj real estate United state flag Asbury park nj Asbury park real estate United state travel Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
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This is the heart of the matter Dan. If you look at the whole picture, Asbury Park over the years has done enough. We were the dumping grounds for Marlboro hospital. We were the ones who allowed our housing stock to go mutifamily to help the poor. We are the ones who built federally subsidized housing to house the poor. We are the ones that take in more section 8 than any other town in the county. We are the ones suffering the segregated High School so we alone have to educate the poor to the exclusion of the rest of the County. We are ones to house the County's methodone clinic. We are the base for the Salvation Army. We are the home of interfaith neighbors. In fact, I understand there are over 80 non-profits helping the poor, and heard someone say once that non-profits helping the poor is Asbury Park's largest industry. We are the ones with 39 churches all helping the poor. We are the ones who allowed homeless people to sleep at City Hall, even attracting homeless from other towns. We are the ones perpetually trying more initiatives to help the poor. All of that goodwill, YET EVERYTIME THERE IS A MORAL OBLIGATION TO HELP SOMEONE ELSE, EVERYONE LOOKS TO ASBURY PARK TO SHOULDER THE LOAD! The town with the most limited resources is tapped to handle the county and state's pressing social problems. When Father Bob wanted to build the Center, he was pastor of a church with srawling, open acres in Wayside. Not in his backyard - he built it here. Now comes the Market Street Mission to bring us more of the poor to help. Not one other town in Monmouth County does a fraction of what we do for the poor. Yet when a new challenge comes, they look at us and start holding "moral obligation" over our heads. Where is the moral obligatins of the other 51 towns in the county? How dare anyone, EVER look at the people if Asbury Park and inquire whether they will step up to help the poor. Go ask the other 51 towns if they will, for once, help the poor instead of Asbury Park. Now comes Jim Keady. He marches into the place that is weary from helping the poor, and starts preaching to us that we have to do more. That is why he comes off as so arrogant. We've done all that and he rides past the other 51 Monmouth towns to take us to task for not doing enough? It's insulting. If someone like you Dan comes into the middle of an argument between me and Jim Keady, and see's Jim saying do more for the poor and me disagreeing with him, it is easy to paint him as the good guy and me as the bad. That of course is intellectually lazy, because knowing all the facts above leads to the conclusion that Jim Keady is going to give us the straw that breaks the camel's back, while I want to (long overdue) strengthen the camel. If poverty is our problem, we shouldn't expand poverty here. We need a bigger base of middle class and (finally, hopefully) some upper class. Let Jim Keady fight for the poor in some other town that isn't doing anything for the poor. I'd support him. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson > wrote: > > > > please define the agenda? > > They believe keady will fill the city with soup kitchens and shelters, > in other words, to give it to the poor. That has been said here > verbatim. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jack I tried talking to him. He called my house repeatedly. He > sent me an email accusing me of ducking his calls (sorry but I was > busy at the moment). > > When I called him back he dropped F-Bombs, called me names, etc. and > the next day his wife emailed me and called me names. > > You suggest to me this is a guy open to discussion? > > It isn't because of me he is losing the faith of so many. It's > because of how he treats people. You deserved all of that. As I recall, he apologized to you for that. He should not have. Yours was a low blow. Lies and distortion are never okay. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The bottom line of the letter is do what you were elected to do stay out of BOE business and that's fair. The Press article wasn't bad they left alot out. I didn't see the Tri- City. Is it in the Coaster too? Jack I tried talking to him. He called my house repeatedly. He > sent me an email accusing me of ducking his calls (sorry but I was > busy at the moment). > > When I called him back he dropped F-Bombs, called me names, etc. and > the next day his wife emailed me and called me names. > > You suggest to me this is a guy open to discussion? > > It isn't because of me he is losing the faith of so many. It's > because of how he treats people. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > The agenda seems to be bias against JK, and from what i've read > here, it existed before > > the shooting...so maybe they are using the shooting as a way to > get him out of there. > > One thing is really bothering me. Is anybody who is anti-Keady > actually going to him > > directly to ask about the gang comment, or anything else they have > issue with. JK seems > > pretty open to discussion. Why not discuss? > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson > wrote: > > > > > > please define the agenda? > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Hinge > > > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:51:10 AM > > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog > > > > > > Well said, and I don't understand why some of the others here > aren't taking that into > > account. > > > To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the wings, and > his detractors used the > > > whole shooting mess to push their agenda. > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "theshortsalepro" > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that > > > > children/youth/ students are part of the solution to the > problems faced > > > > by Asbury Park. > > > > > > > > He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. > He is > > > > trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice. > > > > > > > > How better to let the kids know that the adults care about > them and > > > > their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the > kids > > > > develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows > how > > > > Asbury can benefit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > ___ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
Jack I tried talking to him. He called my house repeatedly. He sent me an email accusing me of ducking his calls (sorry but I was busy at the moment). When I called him back he dropped F-Bombs, called me names, etc. and the next day his wife emailed me and called me names. You suggest to me this is a guy open to discussion? It isn't because of me he is losing the faith of so many. It's because of how he treats people. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The agenda seems to be bias against JK, and from what i've read here, it existed before > the shooting...so maybe they are using the shooting as a way to get him out of there. > One thing is really bothering me. Is anybody who is anti-Keady actually going to him > directly to ask about the gang comment, or anything else they have issue with. JK seems > pretty open to discussion. Why not discuss? > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson wrote: > > > > please define the agenda? > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Hinge > > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:51:10 AM > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog > > > > Well said, and I don't understand why some of the others here aren't taking that into > account. > > To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the wings, and his detractors used the > > whole shooting mess to push their agenda. > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "theshortsalepro" wrote: > > > > > > I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that > > > children/youth/ students are part of the solution to the problems faced > > > by Asbury Park. > > > > > > He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. He is > > > trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice. > > > > > > How better to let the kids know that the adults care about them and > > > their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the kids > > > develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows how > > > Asbury can benefit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ ___ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
Jack I tried talking to him. He called my house repeatedly. He sent me an email accusing me of ducking his calls (sorry but I was busy at the moment). When I called him back he dropped F-Bombs, called me names, etc. and the next day his wife emailed me and called me names. You suggest to me this is a guy open to discussion? It isn't because of me he is losing the faith of so many. It's because of how he treats people. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The agenda seems to be bias against JK, and from what i've read here, it existed before > the shooting...so maybe they are using the shooting as a way to get him out of there. > One thing is really bothering me. Is anybody who is anti-Keady actually going to him > directly to ask about the gang comment, or anything else they have issue with. JK seems > pretty open to discussion. Why not discuss? > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson wrote: > > > > please define the agenda? > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Hinge > > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:51:10 AM > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog > > > > Well said, and I don't understand why some of the others here aren't taking that into > account. > > To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the wings, and his detractors used the > > whole shooting mess to push their agenda. > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "theshortsalepro" wrote: > > > > > > I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that > > > children/youth/ students are part of the solution to the problems faced > > > by Asbury Park. > > > > > > He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. He is > > > trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice. > > > > > > How better to let the kids know that the adults care about them and > > > their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the kids > > > develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows how > > > Asbury can benefit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ ___ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I do have sources too. Many of them. None as good as Joe D was. > > Can't reveal my source on the DiSanto letter. Other news sources > have it. So outside of being publicly available. > > You are in "9/11 conspiracy theory" territory if you think I'm in > contact with Bruno and Loffredo very often. I almost never talk to > either one of them. I said you kiss their asses, not speak to them. I did not say it was organized. You know which side your bread is buttered on. GUMBA article please. Just let me know if it's appearing in today's TCN and I will stop pestering you, otherwise make good on your promise. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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The agenda seems to be bias against JK, and from what i've read here, it existed before the shooting...so maybe they are using the shooting as a way to get him out of there. One thing is really bothering me. Is anybody who is anti-Keady actually going to him directly to ask about the gang comment, or anything else they have issue with. JK seems pretty open to discussion. Why not discuss? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > please define the agenda? > > > - Original Message > From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:51:10 AM > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog > > Well said, and I don't understand why some of the others here aren't taking > that into account. > To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the wings, and his > detractors used the > whole shooting mess to push their agenda. > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "theshortsalepro" wrote: > > > > I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that > > children/youth/ students are part of the solution to the problems faced > > by Asbury Park. > > > > He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. He is > > trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice. > > > > How better to let the kids know that the adults care about them and > > their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the kids > > develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows how > > Asbury can benefit? > > > > > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > please define the agenda? They believe keady will fill the city with soup kitchens and shelters, in other words, to give it to the poor. That has been said here verbatim. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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The OPEN PUBLIC RECORDS ACT is a powerful tool. It actually requires most things you ask for to be copied and given to you immediately. There are time schedules for other things. If they don't meet the time frames there is a special board set up with the State to which you can register a complaint. If you win (any you will win), you are awarded attorney fees. I do have sources too. Many of them. None as good as Joe D was. Can't reveal my source on the DiSanto letter. Other news sources have it. You are in "9/11 conspiracy theory" territory if you think I'm in contact with Bruno and Loffredo very often. I almost never talk to either one of them. If I talk to Bruno it's usually to make sure he knows that Jets rule and Dolphins stink. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > You're usually funny, but today you seem unusually gruff. > > > > Is everything OK with you? > > > > No BS. Genuine concern. You alright? > > > I'm fine thank you. But some days my tolerance for your antics is not > as high as other days. What you are doing is not right. What may be > worse is you know it. You may have formerly adopted the moniker of > blind bishop but I know you are not blind. You know better. I like you > but the charge of kissing Bruno et al asses still stands. Give us the > GUMBA article. WHile you're at it. When and how did you get the news of > the school board letter? When you say it is public information how is > that released and when? > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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please define the agenda? - Original Message From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:51:10 AMSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog Well said, and I don't understand why some of the others here aren't taking that into account. To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the wings, and his detractors used the whole shooting mess to push their agenda.--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "theshortsalepro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that > children/youth/ students are part of the solution to the problems faced > by Asbury Park.> > He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. He is > trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice.> > How better to let the kids know that the adults care about them and > their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the kids > develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows how > Asbury can benefit?> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park nj real estate United state flag Asbury park nj Asbury park real estate United state travel Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're usually funny, but today you seem unusually gruff. > > Is everything OK with you? > > No BS. Genuine concern. You alright? I'm fine thank you. But some days my tolerance for your antics is not as high as other days. What you are doing is not right. What may be worse is you know it. You may have formerly adopted the moniker of blind bishop but I know you are not blind. You know better. I like you but the charge of kissing Bruno et al asses still stands. Give us the GUMBA article. WHile you're at it. When and how did you get the news of the school board letter? When you say it is public information how is that released and when? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
You're usually funny, but today you seem unusually gruff. Is everything OK with you? No BS. Genuine concern. You alright? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > So you really are making the case that Jim Keady is right and the > > rest of the City is wrong. > > > > Says alot. > > > The rest of the city? Tom, you are a paid hack for the powers in this > city. Loffredo, Sanders and Bruno have indentations on their asses from > your lips. Bruno rides in your mustang in the parade. There's probably > a lot more. When you no longer feed at the trough of city hall then > maybe you will be taken seriously. Right now you're just a pain in the > ass. I would call you the Borat of attorneys but I wouldn't do that to > Borat. > > Somewhat convenient how you get news before anyone. Hmmm. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So you really are making the case that Jim Keady is right and the > rest of the City is wrong. > > Says alot. > The rest of the city? Tom, you are a paid hack for the powers in this city. Loffredo, Sanders and Bruno have indentations on their asses from your lips. Bruno rides in your mustang in the parade. There's probably a lot more. When you no longer feed at the trough of city hall then maybe you will be taken seriously. Right now you're just a pain in the ass. I would call you the Borat of attorneys but I wouldn't do that to Borat. Somewhat convenient how you get news before anyone. Hmmm. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ---keady should keep his ass right where it is - on the council. You are still the most level-headed of us all. Tell your boys to buy my home. I had it with the nonsense in this city. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Well said, and I don't understand why some of the others here aren't taking that into account. To me, the slamming of JK was already waiting in the wings, and his detractors used the whole shooting mess to push their agenda. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "theshortsalepro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that > children/youth/students are part of the solution to the problems faced > by Asbury Park. > > He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. He is > trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice. > > How better to let the kids know that the adults care about them and > their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the kids > develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows how > Asbury can benefit? > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that children/youth/students are part of the solution to the problems faced by Asbury Park. He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. He is trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice. How better to let the kids know that the adults care about them and their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the kids develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows how Asbury can benefit? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
Why is TS focusing so much on JK? Shouldn't the major issue of the moment be moving AP in a better direction, fighting crime, getting the redevelopment under control and paying attention to the west side...not just the east? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So you really are making the case that Jim Keady is right and the > rest of the City is wrong. > > Says alot. > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Seems like the people upset with Jim is getting to be a pretty > > > diverse group. Can they all be wrong? > > > > > > Any thought at all that maybe he isn't conducting himself very > > well? > > > > > > Glad you asked. Firstly, I read the article. Seems like he is in > the > > clear and had permission. If the schools did not internally follow > > protocol, well. > > > > Greater "wrongs" have been done by public officials in AP and > there > > has been NO outcry from anyone except the appointed "naysayers." > > Groups like the UEZ, etc., have remained mute while councilmembers > > have lied in print and public meetings. Said nothing while > accepted > > redevelopment plans were ignored and voided. I could go on. All > who > > drink at the trough of City Hall put their hands over their > > collective mouths, eyes and ears because it was deemed > the "greater > > good" by their masters. > > > > Don't think I do not know how far the influence of Loffredo and > > Bruno goes in this city. You yourself don't say what you know is > > wrong in public because of it, although you have said it at times > in > > private (BTW, I expect your GUMBA article to be here today if not > in > > TCN). > > > > Keady was considered a great guy by many as he spoke against > eminent > > domain, tried to save buildings and to get Partners to move their > > asses. > > > > What went wrong? Well, he started to speak about serving the poor, > > the downtrodden. The claims against Keady have been posted right > > here all along. A diverse group - those against him politically - > > and others, such as those with real estate interests - brokers, > > agents, owners, etc., join opinion with you that he will make this > > city nothing but soup kitchens and homeless shelters if he had his > > way. Weren't those your words? > > > > That is his crime. The fear is that he will keep this town down > and > > reduce our property values. Didn't Allan come right out and say > that? > > > > And so, you get people who have influence on official boards to > join > > the fray. Doesn't matter what the facts are, as along as there is > an > > opportunity to criticize him. It is clear that the powers that be, > > both inside and outside of City Hall, want Keady gone. > > > > Keady's announcement of what he is doing in his official capacity > is > > interpreted as "grandstanding" instead of being accepted as it is > > given - fulfilling his obligation to keep his constituents > apprised. > > > > He is proactive. Thank God. The group that has mobilized against > him > > are a bunch of cheerleaders. Everything is show,parades, > fireworks, > > faux landings of lost explorers,etc. Tom, next Columbus Day take > > your show to Howell. Let yourkids participate there where they > live > > and go to school. > > > > I won't criticize the School Board because I don't know everything > > and I know there are good people in it. But reading about events > > over the past few years and the ongoing performance of the > schools, > > I would say that Bob DiSanto and the board have their hands full. > > There is plenty of blame to go around concerning the schools. They > > should be addressing more important matters than Keady visiting > the > > school. It all seems a bit heavy-handed and a coincidence on the > > heels of the UEZ letter. > > > > I would say that all of our councilman and mayor, and city > manager, > > should have considered visiting the school in the wake of the > > shootings. But I don't think I would want Bruno talking to my kids. > > > > It is time for people to wake up. Keady is not going to do > anything > > to reduce our property values. They are more in danger of > declining > > due to the potential failure of the redevelopment and Partners > > continual postponement of the waterfront restoration. > > > > A lot of people (real estate people) made a lot of money in this > > town over the past few years. I see their hand in this. Shame on > you > > all. > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[E
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
Personally, I think making an issue of his visit to the school is more of a political move then anything. I've read and re-read the article, and it just makes me like JK even more. His motive sounds pretty admirable in my opinion...he wanted to know what the students were thinking. What's wrong with that? How can somebody attack him for that. All this talk of him influencing property values is a joke. I've said it before, and i'll say it again...AP already has a bad reputation, and if anything it's that legacy that has the effect, not JK's effort to improve things. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > >Councilman under fire for school visit > Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/9/06 > BY NANCY SHIELDS > COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU > > ASBURY PARK City Board of Education President Robert DiSanto has > fired off a letter to City Councilman James Keady criticizing him for > visiting Asbury Park High School classes Oct. 27 without the > permission of Acting Superintendent Kathy McDavid following the fatal > shooting of 18-year-old Tylik Pugh. > > But Keady, who wanted to hear the students' concerns about gun > violence and other deep-seated problems following the Oct. 18 > shooting, released e-mails Wednesday that showed he had the > permission of the high school principal, Linda Palumbo, to meet with > the students. Furthermore, Keady said that when he arrived at the > school that Friday, he was given a schedule of classes to follow. > > "It wasn't like Jim Keady just popped up and showed up for classes," > Keady said Wednesday. "I had a printed-out schedule for my day." > > In his Nov. 3 letter, DiSanto said he had told Keady he must have > permission from the superintendent and was to make arrangements > through her. He said Keady "chose to ignore this protocol and > interrupted our classes regardless." > > "Councilman Keady, I must ask you why you are getting involved in our > schools without proper protocol and respect for our superintendent > and her administration, or for the Asbury Park Board of > Education?"DiSanto wrote. > > Keady's e-mails show that teacher Lauren Golden, who had encouraged > city officials to get involved with the schools, made the > arrangements and e-mailed him on Oct. 25: "I spoke to the principal, > Dr. (Linda) Palumbo. She said it is fine for you to come in. . . ." > > Keady said that perhaps there was "a slight potential misstep" when > he did not call McDavid directly but said he assumed the > dministration had approved his visit. > > "I'm under the assumption if the principal OK'd this, everything's > fine," he said. > > Keady said he obtained valuable information from the students. > > "I thought, and still do think, that the solutions lie with them," he > said. > > McDavid said Wednesday she had no recollection of talking to Palumbo > about Keady's visit. > > The city's Urban Enterprise Zone Board recently sent Keady a letter > asking him to resign and leave town for telling a New York City > television station that the word on the street was that there are 200 > members of the Bloods gang in the city > > > > > > > > > Seems like the people upset with Jim is getting to be a pretty > > diverse group. Can they all be wrong? > > > > Any thought at all that maybe he isn't conducting himself very well? > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim holds a B.S. in Psychology from St. Joseph's University > > > > > > > > BS sums it up... > > > > > > > > > meaning what? > > > > > > > I taught school for 2 years. Shall I rush into your children's > > > > school, outside of the curriculum, and start learnin' 'em? > > > > > > Was he giving instruction? > > > > > > > > > > > He could have more training than the Pope (probably thinks he > > > does). > > > > He isn't part of the curriculum and not accepted by the school > > to > > > > teach there. > > > > > > Was he teaching? Did he receive permission from the principal? > > > > > > > He wasn't there for show and tell. > > > > > > > > > > I took Keady at his word and worked under the assumption that > he > > > did > > > > have the principal's permission. Why should I investigate - do > > > you > > > > think he is lying? > > > > > > Nice try. You suggested that Keady used undue influence. Muscle I > > > think is the word you used. > > > > > > > I believe he needs the Super's permission. Don't be surprised > > if > > > > principal or super cover for themselves and him and "start to > > > think > > > > they kinda remember something about the Super saying sorta OK > or > > > > something." > > > > > > I don't thinkhe broke into the school. Some offi
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
So you really are making the case that Jim Keady is right and the rest of the City is wrong. Says alot. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > > > Seems like the people upset with Jim is getting to be a pretty > > diverse group. Can they all be wrong? > > > > Any thought at all that maybe he isn't conducting himself very > well? > > > Glad you asked. Firstly, I read the article. Seems like he is in the > clear and had permission. If the schools did not internally follow > protocol, well. > > Greater "wrongs" have been done by public officials in AP and there > has been NO outcry from anyone except the appointed "naysayers." > Groups like the UEZ, etc., have remained mute while councilmembers > have lied in print and public meetings. Said nothing while accepted > redevelopment plans were ignored and voided. I could go on. All who > drink at the trough of City Hall put their hands over their > collective mouths, eyes and ears because it was deemed the "greater > good" by their masters. > > Don't think I do not know how far the influence of Loffredo and > Bruno goes in this city. You yourself don't say what you know is > wrong in public because of it, although you have said it at times in > private (BTW, I expect your GUMBA article to be here today if not in > TCN). > > Keady was considered a great guy by many as he spoke against eminent > domain, tried to save buildings and to get Partners to move their > asses. > > What went wrong? Well, he started to speak about serving the poor, > the downtrodden. The claims against Keady have been posted right > here all along. A diverse group - those against him politically - > and others, such as those with real estate interests - brokers, > agents, owners, etc., join opinion with you that he will make this > city nothing but soup kitchens and homeless shelters if he had his > way. Weren't those your words? > > That is his crime. The fear is that he will keep this town down and > reduce our property values. Didn't Allan come right out and say that? > > And so, you get people who have influence on official boards to join > the fray. Doesn't matter what the facts are, as along as there is an > opportunity to criticize him. It is clear that the powers that be, > both inside and outside of City Hall, want Keady gone. > > Keady's announcement of what he is doing in his official capacity is > interpreted as "grandstanding" instead of being accepted as it is > given - fulfilling his obligation to keep his constituents apprised. > > He is proactive. Thank God. The group that has mobilized against him > are a bunch of cheerleaders. Everything is show,parades, fireworks, > faux landings of lost explorers,etc. Tom, next Columbus Day take > your show to Howell. Let yourkids participate there where they live > and go to school. > > I won't criticize the School Board because I don't know everything > and I know there are good people in it. But reading about events > over the past few years and the ongoing performance of the schools, > I would say that Bob DiSanto and the board have their hands full. > There is plenty of blame to go around concerning the schools. They > should be addressing more important matters than Keady visiting the > school. It all seems a bit heavy-handed and a coincidence on the > heels of the UEZ letter. > > I would say that all of our councilman and mayor, and city manager, > should have considered visiting the school in the wake of the > shootings. But I don't think I would want Bruno talking to my kids. > > It is time for people to wake up. Keady is not going to do anything > to reduce our property values. They are more in danger of declining > due to the potential failure of the redevelopment and Partners > continual postponement of the waterfront restoration. > > A lot of people (real estate people) made a lot of money in this > town over the past few years. I see their hand in this. Shame on you > all. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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---keady should keep his ass right where it is - on the council. So he talked to the kids. Big f'in deal. How many times is it more interesting to hear someone else then the same droll from a teacher. Kind of like career day. There was noting more interesting in college then having an adjunct vs a career professor. "Put down those books" and let me tell you how it is...then read your book. Hey I jumped on Jim a few years back for being "well read". He is learning the facts of life of those that live it everyday, not running from it. So I took a couple guys around AP the other day to look at homes etc. Spent 6 hours with them. I gave them the real tour. We discussed the shootings, crime, redevelopment, the lack of offices (day workers for commercial day traffic), lack of parking, the impact of new developments on existing home prices and condos, the recongized Allan and Suzi having a shop around the corner from them in NYC, Springwood Ave, the Sewer plant on the Ocean, eminent domain, JErsey gardens, the metropolitan and on. So know theya re focusing on the east side. Given all the facts (sales history, development,risks,comps) they are looking at AP and comparing to long branch and other shore towns before they plunk down a million on one or more homes or a commercial project. I also told them to read this board and tom's column in thr tri for entertainment. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Seems like the people upset with Jim is getting to be a pretty > diverse group. Can they all be wrong? > > Any thought at all that maybe he isn't conducting himself very well? Glad you asked. Firstly, I read the article. Seems like he is in the clear and had permission. If the schools did not internally follow protocol, well. Greater "wrongs" have been done by public officials in AP and there has been NO outcry from anyone except the appointed "naysayers." Groups like the UEZ, etc., have remained mute while councilmembers have lied in print and public meetings. Said nothing while accepted redevelopment plans were ignored and voided. I could go on. All who drink at the trough of City Hall put their hands over their collective mouths, eyes and ears because it was deemed the "greater good" by their masters. Don't think I do not know how far the influence of Loffredo and Bruno goes in this city. You yourself don't say what you know is wrong in public because of it, although you have said it at times in private (BTW, I expect your GUMBA article to be here today if not in TCN). Keady was considered a great guy by many as he spoke against eminent domain, tried to save buildings and to get Partners to move their asses. What went wrong? Well, he started to speak about serving the poor, the downtrodden. The claims against Keady have been posted right here all along. A diverse group - those against him politically - and others, such as those with real estate interests - brokers, agents, owners, etc., join opinion with you that he will make this city nothing but soup kitchens and homeless shelters if he had his way. Weren't those your words? That is his crime. The fear is that he will keep this town down and reduce our property values. Didn't Allan come right out and say that? And so, you get people who have influence on official boards to join the fray. Doesn't matter what the facts are, as along as there is an opportunity to criticize him. It is clear that the powers that be, both inside and outside of City Hall, want Keady gone. Keady's announcement of what he is doing in his official capacity is interpreted as "grandstanding" instead of being accepted as it is given - fulfilling his obligation to keep his constituents apprised. He is proactive. Thank God. The group that has mobilized against him are a bunch of cheerleaders. Everything is show,parades, fireworks, faux landings of lost explorers,etc. Tom, next Columbus Day take your show to Howell. Let yourkids participate there where they live and go to school. I won't criticize the School Board because I don't know everything and I know there are good people in it. But reading about events over the past few years and the ongoing performance of the schools, I would say that Bob DiSanto and the board have their hands full. There is plenty of blame to go around concerning the schools. They should be addressing more important matters than Keady visiting the school. It all seems a bit heavy-handed and a coincidence on the heels of the UEZ letter. I would say that all of our councilman and mayor, and city manager, should have considered visiting the school in the wake of the shootings. But I don't think I would want Bruno talking to my kids. It is time for people to wake up. Keady is not going to do anything to reduce our property values. They are more in danger of declining due to the potential failure of the redevelopment and Partners continual postponement of the waterfront restoration. A lot of people (real estate people) made a lot of money in this town over the past few years. I see their hand in this. Shame on you all. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Councilman under fire for school visit Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/9/06 BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU ASBURY PARK City Board of Education President Robert DiSanto has fired off a letter to City Councilman James Keady criticizing him for visiting Asbury Park High School classes Oct. 27 without the permission of Acting Superintendent Kathy McDavid following the fatal shooting of 18-year-old Tylik Pugh. But Keady, who wanted to hear the students' concerns about gun violence and other deep-seated problems following the Oct. 18 shooting, released e-mails Wednesday that showed he had the permission of the high school principal, Linda Palumbo, to meet with the students. Furthermore, Keady said that when he arrived at the school that Friday, he was given a schedule of classes to follow. "It wasn't like Jim Keady just popped up and showed up for classes," Keady said Wednesday. "I had a printed-out schedule for my day." In his Nov. 3 letter, DiSanto said he had told Keady he must have permission from the superintendent and was to make arrangements through her. He said Keady "chose to ignore this protocol and interrupted our classes regardless." "Councilman Keady, I must ask you why you are getting involved in our schools without proper protocol and respect for our superintendent and her administration, or for the Asbury Park Board of Education?"DiSanto wrote. Keady's e-mails show that teacher Lauren Golden, who had encouraged city officials to get involved with the schools, made the arrangements and e-mailed him on Oct. 25: "I spoke to the principal, Dr. (Linda) Palumbo. She said it is fine for you to come in. . . ." Keady said that perhaps there was "a slight potential misstep" when he did not call McDavid directly but said he assumed the dministration had approved his visit. "I'm under the assumption if the principal OK'd this, everything's fine," he said. Keady said he obtained valuable information from the students. "I thought, and still do think, that the solutions lie with them," he said. McDavid said Wednesday she had no recollection of talking to Palumbo about Keady's visit. The city's Urban Enterprise Zone Board recently sent Keady a letter asking him to resign and leave town for telling a New York City television station that the word on the street was that there are 200 members of the Bloods gang in the city > > Seems like the people upset with Jim is getting to be a pretty > diverse group. Can they all be wrong? > > Any thought at all that maybe he isn't conducting himself very well? > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Jim holds a B.S. in Psychology from St. Joseph's University > > > > > > BS sums it up... > > > > > > meaning what? > > > > > I taught school for 2 years. Shall I rush into your children's > > > school, outside of the curriculum, and start learnin' 'em? > > > > Was he giving instruction? > > > > > > > > He could have more training than the Pope (probably thinks he > > does). > > > He isn't part of the curriculum and not accepted by the school > to > > > teach there. > > > > Was he teaching? Did he receive permission from the principal? > > > > > He wasn't there for show and tell. > > > > > > > I took Keady at his word and worked under the assumption that he > > did > > > have the principal's permission. Why should I investigate - do > > you > > > think he is lying? > > > > Nice try. You suggested that Keady used undue influence. Muscle I > > think is the word you used. > > > > > I believe he needs the Super's permission. Don't be surprised > if > > > principal or super cover for themselves and him and "start to > > think > > > they kinda remember something about the Super saying sorta OK or > > > something." > > > > I don't thinkhe broke into the school. Some official let him do > it. > > If they were not supposed to that is their problem, not his. > > > > > > > > Are you suggesting that the principal would let anyone in to > talk > > to > > > the kids just for the asking? They let Jim in because of his > > > Council position. > > > > No, because they thought it was a good idea. Keady goes to the > > schools to talk to the kids about the shooting to try to some good > > and again, gets crucified. Why, because he is a councilman? Oh > > right, he is grand standing again. > > > > If you don't have your head up someone's (the right someone) ass > in > > City Hall, drink the kool aid and sing the company song (Oh Status > > Quo), you're grand standing in this city. > > > > Meanwhile, Sanders, Loffredo and Bruno haven't met a photo op they > > don't like. Loffredo can dress up us Columbus and get maro
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Seems like the people upset with Jim is getting to be a pretty diverse group. Can they all be wrong? Any thought at all that maybe he isn't conducting himself very well? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > > > > Jim holds a B.S. in Psychology from St. Joseph's University > > > > BS sums it up... > > > meaning what? > > > I taught school for 2 years. Shall I rush into your children's > > school, outside of the curriculum, and start learnin' 'em? > > Was he giving instruction? > > > > > He could have more training than the Pope (probably thinks he > does). > > He isn't part of the curriculum and not accepted by the school to > > teach there. > > Was he teaching? Did he receive permission from the principal? > > > He wasn't there for show and tell. > > > > I took Keady at his word and worked under the assumption that he > did > > have the principal's permission. Why should I investigate - do > you > > think he is lying? > > Nice try. You suggested that Keady used undue influence. Muscle I > think is the word you used. > > > I believe he needs the Super's permission. Don't be surprised if > > principal or super cover for themselves and him and "start to > think > > they kinda remember something about the Super saying sorta OK or > > something." > > I don't thinkhe broke into the school. Some official let him do it. > If they were not supposed to that is their problem, not his. > > > > > Are you suggesting that the principal would let anyone in to talk > to > > the kids just for the asking? They let Jim in because of his > > Council position. > > No, because they thought it was a good idea. Keady goes to the > schools to talk to the kids about the shooting to try to some good > and again, gets crucified. Why, because he is a councilman? Oh > right, he is grand standing again. > > If you don't have your head up someone's (the right someone) ass in > City Hall, drink the kool aid and sing the company song (Oh Status > Quo), you're grand standing in this city. > > Meanwhile, Sanders, Loffredo and Bruno haven't met a photo op they > don't like. Loffredo can dress up us Columbus and get marooned on > the beach, you dress your kids up as First Peoples (but I bet you > like to call them injuns) and Bruno can pontificate about absolute > bullshit but that's okay. > > > > > You continue to make that charge. I'm sorry I offended you. I > > didn't know you were gay. > > I'm not gay and the charge fits. I just want to show the level you > will stoop to do what you see fit. The ends do not justify the means. > > > > > It is part of the public record. You'll see it in all the papers > > tomorrow. > > > I am sure I will. Does no one see the coincidence here? Like or > dislike Keady, agree or disagree with him, this is payback for > something. I make no charge against the school board and will take > them at their word, but this letter on the heels of the UEZ letter > just seems fishy to me. > > Perhaps the letter will indicate what Keady did wrong. I hope it has > some substance relating to what the Board objects to in what Keady > may have said to the children. Because if it is solely charging that > he had no authority to go into the schools, if he got permission > from the principal then the issue should be between the Board and > the principal. > > Seems to me like the guy contributes a lot of time to run programs > for kids to keep them on the straight and narrow and is now getting > tarred and feathered for trying to do some good for the kids after > the shooting. I didn't criticize the Board for closing the schools > after the shooting although many did. I think Keady did question > that as well in the press. Is this payback? Is he an easy target? > > This City is getting like communist China. You have people afraid to > identify themselves because of retribution. You have a UEZ > overstepping its bounds. Anyone who tries to do good and WHO is not > paying homage to the powers that be, gets slammed. I have first hand > experience on that. "Go Along to Get Along" should be the City motto. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > Jim holds a B.S. in Psychology from St. Joseph's University > > BS sums it up... meaning what? > I taught school for 2 years. Shall I rush into your children's > school, outside of the curriculum, and start learnin' 'em? Was he giving instruction? > > He could have more training than the Pope (probably thinks he does). > He isn't part of the curriculum and not accepted by the school to > teach there. Was he teaching? Did he receive permission from the principal? > He wasn't there for show and tell. > I took Keady at his word and worked under the assumption that he did > have the principal's permission. Why should I investigate - do you > think he is lying? Nice try. You suggested that Keady used undue influence. Muscle I think is the word you used. > I believe he needs the Super's permission. Don't be surprised if > principal or super cover for themselves and him and "start to think > they kinda remember something about the Super saying sorta OK or > something." I don't thinkhe broke into the school. Some official let him do it. If they were not supposed to that is their problem, not his. > > Are you suggesting that the principal would let anyone in to talk to > the kids just for the asking? They let Jim in because of his > Council position. No, because they thought it was a good idea. Keady goes to the schools to talk to the kids about the shooting to try to some good and again, gets crucified. Why, because he is a councilman? Oh right, he is grand standing again. If you don't have your head up someone's (the right someone) ass in City Hall, drink the kool aid and sing the company song (Oh Status Quo), you're grand standing in this city. Meanwhile, Sanders, Loffredo and Bruno haven't met a photo op they don't like. Loffredo can dress up us Columbus and get marooned on the beach, you dress your kids up as First Peoples (but I bet you like to call them injuns) and Bruno can pontificate about absolute bullshit but that's okay. > > You continue to make that charge. I'm sorry I offended you. I > didn't know you were gay. I'm not gay and the charge fits. I just want to show the level you will stoop to do what you see fit. The ends do not justify the means. > > It is part of the public record. You'll see it in all the papers > tomorrow. I am sure I will. Does no one see the coincidence here? Like or dislike Keady, agree or disagree with him, this is payback for something. I make no charge against the school board and will take them at their word, but this letter on the heels of the UEZ letter just seems fishy to me. Perhaps the letter will indicate what Keady did wrong. I hope it has some substance relating to what the Board objects to in what Keady may have said to the children. Because if it is solely charging that he had no authority to go into the schools, if he got permission from the principal then the issue should be between the Board and the principal. Seems to me like the guy contributes a lot of time to run programs for kids to keep them on the straight and narrow and is now getting tarred and feathered for trying to do some good for the kids after the shooting. I didn't criticize the Board for closing the schools after the shooting although many did. I think Keady did question that as well in the press. Is this payback? Is he an easy target? This City is getting like communist China. You have people afraid to identify themselves because of retribution. You have a UEZ overstepping its bounds. Anyone who tries to do good and WHO is not paying homage to the powers that be, gets slammed. I have first hand experience on that. "Go Along to Get Along" should be the City motto. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jim holds a B.S. in Psychology from St. Joseph's University BS sums it up... >and a Masters degree in Theology God Bless him. >with a concentration in Social > Ethics/Pastoral Theology from St. John's University. Jim taught >high > school religion for 5 years, including in Monmouth County at St. > Rose and St. John Vianney. I taught school for 2 years. Shall I rush into your children's school, outside of the curriculum, and start learnin' 'em? > Are you suggesting Jim doesn't have the necessary training to >speak > to children in schools? He could have more training than the Pope (probably thinks he does). He isn't part of the curriculum and not accepted by the school to teach there. > What about the millions of show and tells that go on daily across > America where fathers and mothers go into the schools to tell kids > about their occupations? He wasn't there for show and tell. > "Keady is fighting back and saying he had the principal's > permission." > As he should if in fact that is the case. Have you investigated >the > matter (as a journalist you should) to determine if he had the > principal's permission? I took Keady at his word and worked under the assumption that he did have the principal's permission. Why should I investigate - do you think he is lying? >And if he did, do the laws also require him > to have the BOE permission? If that is true, then who made the > infraction, Keady or the principal? Isn't the principal supposed >to > know what approvals are needed? Are you fishing? I believe he needs the Super's permission. Don't be surprised if principal or super cover for themselves and him and "start to think they kinda remember something about the Super saying sorta OK or something." > Now you are publicly accusing Keady using undue influence (you > characterize this as "muscle") to go into the schools. Do you have > the evidence to back this up? Why would you characterize it as >such > without knowing the specifics? Are you suggesting that the principal would let anyone in to talk to the kids just for the asking? They let Jim in because of his Council position. >WIl you deny this just as you denied > making anti-gay remalrs about Frank and Pallone? You continue to make that charge. I'm sorry I offended you. I didn't know you were gay. > Have you seen this letter? Is it an official communication from >the > School Board or directly from DiSanto? If it is an official letter > from the Board, how did you come to see it? Was it sent to others > besides Keady and is it for public perusal? It is part of the public record. You'll see it in all the papers tomorrow. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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You're exactly right Allen, particularly if the escrow agent is an attorney (which is the best way to go because his license is at stake if he screws up by even a nickel). The escrow agent can't choose sides. He can't release any money unless both sides authorize it. If they don't agree, a judge has to make the call. Either party or the escrow agent can file the suit. I think it is a non-issue. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can someone explain to me what the issue is for: > Selection of escrow agent at sole discretion of developer > etc. > > I know we have a lawyer on the board so maybe he could help. It is my understand that when money is in escrow you still have to have a judge release it? It is not like Partners do something wrong and the city can take the money right? So if that is the case who care what attorney or bank holds the money? I would think that since it is Asbury Partners responsibility then they has also have the costs involved saving the city money. > > > > > dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > wrote: > > > > Here is what the Councilman said of the new agreement: > > > > "Am I satisfied with this agreement? Yes." > > > > I know he has many fans on this board. What say you about this? > > > I just read it too and I sent Jim an email respectfully disagreeing > with him and pointed out in detail why. I have already outlined the > same details here so I will spare the group, but in brief, > > No financial guarantees for total restoration > Litigation escape clause still in Force Majeure > Gave up right to declare Default on the issues in supplemental agreement > No specific financial penalties for not meeting total restoration > deadlines > Too little money held in escrow > Selection of escrow agent at sole discretion of developer > etc. > > > > > > > - > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > - > > > > > > - > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can someone explain to me what the issue is for: > Selection of escrow agent at sole discretion of developer > etc. > > I know we have a lawyer on the board so maybe he could help. It is my understand that when money is in escrow you still have to have a judge release it? It is not like Partners do something wrong and the city can take the money right? So if that is the case who care what attorney or bank holds the money? I would think that since it is Asbury Partners responsibility then they has also have the costs involved saving the city money. > I don't think a judge is involved since it is all subject to arbitration, although the condemnation award can be confirmed in court which is a formality. The selection of the escrow agent is not such a big issue, but when you are looking at what you don't like, you say it all, big and small. If it is no big deal, then why, I assume, did Partners negotiate for it to have the right to select the agent? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
Can someone explain to me what the issue is for: Selection of escrow agent at sole discretion of developeretc. I know we have a lawyer on the board so maybe he could help. It is my understand that when money is in escrow you still have to have a judge release it? It is not like Partners do something wrong and the city can take the money right? So if that is the case who care what attorney or bank holds the money? I would think that since it is Asbury Partners responsibility then they has also have the costs involved saving the city money. dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Here is what the Councilman said of the new agreement:> > "Am I satisfied with this agreement? Yes."> > I know he has many fans on this board. What say you about this?>I just read it too and I sent Jim an email respectfully disagreeing with him and pointed out in detail why. I have already outlined the same details here so I will spare the group, but in brief,No financial guarantees for total restorationLitigation escape clause still in Force MajeureGave up right to declare Default on the issues in supplemental agreementNo specific financial penalties for not meeting total restoration deadlinesToo little money held in escrowSelection of escrow agent at sole discretion of developeretc. Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here is what the Councilman said of the new agreement: > > "Am I satisfied with this agreement? Yes." > > I know he has many fans on this board. What say you about this? > I just read it too and I sent Jim an email respectfully disagreeing with him and pointed out in detail why. I have already outlined the same details here so I will spare the group, but in brief, No financial guarantees for total restoration Litigation escape clause still in Force Majeure Gave up right to declare Default on the issues in supplemental agreement No specific financial penalties for not meeting total restoration deadlines Too little money held in escrow Selection of escrow agent at sole discretion of developer etc. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
