[AsburyPark] Re: you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

2006-05-07 Thread Fred 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
I believe they have to OWN the whole block before they can sell it 
off. A year from now Rita will be there and hopefully making some 
good money. She'll have to cook alittle faster the construction 
workers only get a half hour lunch. That's why alot of the workers 
brown bag it.


what about the business?
> Or did Warner already answer that?
> " The Deli should be the LAST property taken not the FIRST."
> 
> Which begs the question as to why?
> Why act so quickly and HARSHLY on the deli?
> Will every Asbury Park taxpayer's property and business be dealt 
with 
> just as harshly?
> That is the question Councilman Keady asked that his fellow elected 
> officials refused to address.
> When Mr. Keady cited an obvious flaw in Asbury's eminent domain 
> procedures, confirmed in later public discussion, he was shouted 
down.
> Harshly.
> 
> Is harshly a word?
> 
> 
> Allan Peterson wrote:
> 
> > Sorry but if it worked that way we could all make tons of money.  
I 
> > would list my house here for 1 million beceause eventually that 
would 
> > be the worth?  While I do not agree with taking of property, the 
value 
> > should be based on today's worth.  Not 5 years from now etc. 
> >
> > */traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
> >
> > "Fred", you  know rat holes don't you, rats and skunks.
> > what she wants is only known to her, what she deserves is a 
whole
> > different thing.
> > and what she deserves, as the 1st taxpayer being subjected to 
eminent
> > domain in AP
> > is precisely what this is all about. She deserves her fair 
slice
> > of the
> > pie. If the property is eventually worth multi millions of 
dollars
> > why should she get hundreds of thousands? But the money is 
none of
> > our
> > business, what is our business is whether the city
> > council of asbury park upholds their oath of allegiance to 
their
> > constituency and protects their taxpayers from the greedy, 
bottom
> > feeders who want to pay pennies on the dollar for properties 
that
> > will
> > make them many many many millions of dollars. And it makes 
zero
> > difference if the taxpayer has been there 20 years or twenty 
days, as
> > Keady said, they all need to be treated fairly and most of all
> > they all
> > need to receive the same due process.
> > But that is something that just isn't understandable to those 
who
> > sleep
> > with the rats and the skunks, their greed overwhelms them and 
they
> > treat
> > everyone the same; as marks in a sting.
> >
> > Fred wrote:
> >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > So it's her lawyers fault not the councils she should sue 
him. I
> > > doubt very much that she didn't know what was going on. 
Your telling
> > > me her lawyer had this since 2004 and he didn't say a word? 
Are you
> > > that gullable? I wonder why the city hasn't lost a lawsuit. 
Isn't
> > > Fernicola her Lawyer? Two weeks wouldn't have made a 
difference 
> > Rita
> > > won't settle. Didn't Maureen post that Rita's taking this 
to the
> > end?
> > > She's wants $ 500,000 for that rat hole.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > After posting this morning I had a delicious piece of 
blueberry
> > > marble
> > > > cake at The Kingsley Deli. Sure enough, Rita's lawyer did 
receive
> > > the
> > > > offers via certified mail that Aaron said were sent. I do 
not
> > think
> > > that
> > > > changes for one thing about  what I wrote earlier. If a 
taxpayer
> > > stands
> > > > in front of the council and makes a statement, they should
> > have not
> > > only
> > > > listened they should have acted accordingly. Nothing 
about the
> > > > redevelopment project would have changed if two weeks from
> > now, the
> > > same
> > > > vote they took weds was taken at the next meeting. In 
fact, what
> > > might
> > > > change would be the plight of a taxpayer and the one 
person who
> > > stood up
> > > > to the blight by showing up for work everyday. No one 
looked at C8
> > > over
> > > > the years more than Rita. Everyone else left. The council 
should
> > > have
> > > > postponed the vote and similar to what they did and 
hopefully are
> > > doing
> > > > for Christina's Aunt, looked into whether or not a fair 
offer was
> > > made
> > > > Rita, and the chance to sit at the table and negotiate a 
fair deal
> > > for
> > > > her property.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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[AsburyPark] Re: you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

2006-05-07 Thread Skip Bernstein 
"When Mr. Keady cited an obvious flaw in Asbury's eminent domain
procedures, confirmed in later public discussion, he was shouted down.
Is harshly a word?"

Sure, in a harsh or unkind manner or maybe you would prefer impolite,
impolitic or nasty.






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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

2006-05-07 Thread traderdube 
what about the business?
Or did Warner already answer that?
" The Deli should be the LAST property taken not the FIRST."

Which begs the question as to why?
Why act so quickly and HARSHLY on the deli?
Will every Asbury Park taxpayer's property and business be dealt with 
just as harshly?
That is the question Councilman Keady asked that his fellow elected 
officials refused to address.
When Mr. Keady cited an obvious flaw in Asbury's eminent domain 
procedures, confirmed in later public discussion, he was shouted down.
Harshly.

Is harshly a word?


Allan Peterson wrote:

> Sorry but if it worked that way we could all make tons of money.  I 
> would list my house here for 1 million beceause eventually that would 
> be the worth?  While I do not agree with taking of property, the value 
> should be based on today's worth.  Not 5 years from now etc. 
>
> */traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
>
> "Fred", you  know rat holes don't you, rats and skunks.
> what she wants is only known to her, what she deserves is a whole
> different thing.
> and what she deserves, as the 1st taxpayer being subjected to eminent
> domain in AP
> is precisely what this is all about. She deserves her fair slice
> of the
> pie. If the property is eventually worth multi millions of dollars
> why should she get hundreds of thousands? But the money is none of
> our
> business, what is our business is whether the city
> council of asbury park upholds their oath of allegiance to their
> constituency and protects their taxpayers from the greedy, bottom
> feeders who want to pay pennies on the dollar for properties that
> will
> make them many many many millions of dollars. And it makes zero
> difference if the taxpayer has been there 20 years or twenty days, as
> Keady said, they all need to be treated fairly and most of all
> they all
> need to receive the same due process.
> But that is something that just isn't understandable to those who
> sleep
> with the rats and the skunks, their greed overwhelms them and they
> treat
> everyone the same; as marks in a sting.
>
> Fred wrote:
>
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > So it's her lawyers fault not the councils she should sue him. I
> > doubt very much that she didn't know what was going on. Your telling
> > me her lawyer had this since 2004 and he didn't say a word? Are you
> > that gullable? I wonder why the city hasn't lost a lawsuit. Isn't
> > Fernicola her Lawyer? Two weeks wouldn't have made a difference 
> Rita
> > won't settle. Didn't Maureen post that Rita's taking this to the
> end?
> > She's wants $ 500,000 for that rat hole.
> >
> >
> >
> > After posting this morning I had a delicious piece of blueberry
> > marble
> > > cake at The Kingsley Deli. Sure enough, Rita's lawyer did receive
> > the
> > > offers via certified mail that Aaron said were sent. I do not
> think
> > that
> > > changes for one thing about  what I wrote earlier. If a taxpayer
> > stands
> > > in front of the council and makes a statement, they should
> have not
> > only
> > > listened they should have acted accordingly. Nothing about the
> > > redevelopment project would have changed if two weeks from
> now, the
> > same
> > > vote they took weds was taken at the next meeting. In fact, what
> > might
> > > change would be the plight of a taxpayer and the one person who
> > stood up
> > > to the blight by showing up for work everyday. No one looked at C8
> > over
> > > the years more than Rita. Everyone else left. The council should
> > have
> > > postponed the vote and similar to what they did and hopefully are
> > doing
> > > for Christina's Aunt, looked into whether or not a fair offer was
> > made
> > > Rita, and the chance to sit at the table and negotiate a fair deal
> > for
> > > her property.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > SPONSORED LINKS
> > Asbury park home
> >
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

2006-05-07 Thread Allan Peterson 



Sorry but if it worked that way we could all make tons of money.  I would list my house here for 1 million beceause eventually that would be the worth?  While I do not agree with taking of property, the value should be based on today's worth.  Not 5 years from now etc.  traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  "Fred", you  know rat holes don't you, rats and skunks.what she wants is only known to her, what she deserves is a whole different thing.and what she deserves, as the 1st taxpayer being subjected to eminent domain in APis precisely what this is all about. She deserves her fair slice of the pie. If the property is eventually worth multi millions of dollarswhy should she get hundreds of thousands? But the money is none of our business, what is our business is whether the
 citycouncil of asbury park upholds their oath of allegiance to their constituency and protects their taxpayers from the greedy, bottom feeders who want to pay pennies on the dollar for properties that will make them many many many millions of dollars. And it makes zero difference if the taxpayer has been there 20 years or twenty days, as Keady said, they all need to be treated fairly and most of all they all need to receive the same due process.But that is something that just isn't understandable to those who sleep with the rats and the skunks, their greed overwhelms them and they treat everyone the same; as marks in a sting.Fred wrote:> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> >> So it's her lawyers fault not the councils she should sue him. I> doubt very much that she didn't know what was going on. Your telling> me her lawyer had this
 since 2004 and he didn't say a word? Are you> that gullable? I wonder why the city hasn't lost a lawsuit. Isn't> Fernicola her Lawyer? Two weeks wouldn't have made a difference  Rita> won't settle. Didn't Maureen post that Rita's taking this to the end?> She's wants $ 500,000 for that rat hole. After posting this morning I had a delicious piece of blueberry> marble> > cake at The Kingsley Deli. Sure enough, Rita's lawyer did receive> the> > offers via certified mail that Aaron said were sent. I do not think> that> > changes for one thing about  what I wrote earlier. If a taxpayer> stands> > in front of the council and makes a statement, they should have not> only> > listened they should have acted accordingly. Nothing about the> > redevelopment project would have changed if two weeks from now, the>
 same> > vote they took weds was taken at the next meeting. In fact, what> might> > change would be the plight of a taxpayer and the one person who> stood up> > to the blight by showing up for work everyday. No one looked at C8> over> > the years more than Rita. Everyone else left. The council should> have> > postponed the vote and similar to what they did and hopefully are> doing> > for Christina's Aunt, looked into whether or not a fair offer was> made> > Rita, and the chance to sit at the table and negotiate a fair deal> for> > her property.> > SPONSORED LINKS> Asbury park home >  >   Asbury park nj >  >   Asbury park hotel >  >> Asbury park foreclosure >  >   Asbury park real estate >  >   Asbury park >   > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS>> *  Visit your group "AsburyPark>   " on the web.>    > * 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

2006-05-07 Thread traderdube 
"Fred", you  know rat holes don't you, rats and skunks.
what she wants is only known to her, what she deserves is a whole 
different thing.
and what she deserves, as the 1st taxpayer being subjected to eminent 
domain in AP
is precisely what this is all about. She deserves her fair slice of the 
pie. If the property is eventually worth multi millions of dollars
why should she get hundreds of thousands? But the money is none of our 
business, what is our business is whether the city
council of asbury park upholds their oath of allegiance to their 
constituency and protects their taxpayers from the greedy, bottom 
feeders who want to pay pennies on the dollar for properties that will 
make them many many many millions of dollars. And it makes zero 
difference if the taxpayer has been there 20 years or twenty days, as 
Keady said, they all need to be treated fairly and most of all they all 
need to receive the same due process.
But that is something that just isn't understandable to those who sleep 
with the rats and the skunks, their greed overwhelms them and they treat 
everyone the same; as marks in a sting.

Fred wrote:

> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> So it's her lawyers fault not the councils she should sue him. I
> doubt very much that she didn't know what was going on. Your telling
> me her lawyer had this since 2004 and he didn't say a word? Are you
> that gullable? I wonder why the city hasn't lost a lawsuit. Isn't
> Fernicola her Lawyer? Two weeks wouldn't have made a difference  Rita
> won't settle. Didn't Maureen post that Rita's taking this to the end?
> She's wants $ 500,000 for that rat hole.
>
>
>
> After posting this morning I had a delicious piece of blueberry
> marble
> > cake at The Kingsley Deli. Sure enough, Rita's lawyer did receive
> the
> > offers via certified mail that Aaron said were sent. I do not think
> that
> > changes for one thing about  what I wrote earlier. If a taxpayer
> stands
> > in front of the council and makes a statement, they should have not
> only
> > listened they should have acted accordingly. Nothing about the
> > redevelopment project would have changed if two weeks from now, the
> same
> > vote they took weds was taken at the next meeting. In fact, what
> might
> > change would be the plight of a taxpayer and the one person who
> stood up
> > to the blight by showing up for work everyday. No one looked at C8
> over
> > the years more than Rita. Everyone else left. The council should
> have
> > postponed the vote and similar to what they did and hopefully are
> doing
> > for Christina's Aunt, looked into whether or not a fair offer was
> made
> > Rita, and the chance to sit at the table and negotiate a fair deal
> for
> > her property.
> >
>
>
>
>
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[AsburyPark] Re: you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

2006-05-06 Thread Fred 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
So it's her lawyers fault not the councils she should sue him. I 
doubt very much that she didn't know what was going on. Your telling 
me her lawyer had this since 2004 and he didn't say a word? Are you 
that gullable? I wonder why the city hasn't lost a lawsuit. Isn't 
Fernicola her Lawyer? Two weeks wouldn't have made a difference  Rita 
won't settle. Didn't Maureen post that Rita's taking this to the end? 
She's wants $ 500,000 for that rat hole.



After posting this morning I had a delicious piece of blueberry 
marble 
> cake at The Kingsley Deli. Sure enough, Rita's lawyer did receive 
the 
> offers via certified mail that Aaron said were sent. I do not think 
that 
> changes for one thing about  what I wrote earlier. If a taxpayer 
stands 
> in front of the council and makes a statement, they should have not 
only 
> listened they should have acted accordingly. Nothing about the 
> redevelopment project would have changed if two weeks from now, the 
same 
> vote they took weds was taken at the next meeting. In fact, what 
might 
> change would be the plight of a taxpayer and the one person who 
stood up 
> to the blight by showing up for work everyday. No one looked at C8 
over 
> the years more than Rita. Everyone else left. The council should 
have 
> postponed the vote and similar to what they did and hopefully are 
doing 
> for Christina's Aunt, looked into whether or not a fair offer was 
made 
> Rita, and the chance to sit at the table and negotiate a fair deal 
for 
> her property.
>







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