Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder
For some reason, humans, especially those with a lot of money, often confuse the concepts of "different" and "better". It's as if there is an inverse relationship between acquiring money and the ability to apply one's intelligence to anything except acquiring more money. Three of the results of this effect are wine snobbery, audiophoolishness, and the price of California real estate. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50937 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder
Phil Leigh;328693 Wrote: > Bring back wire recorders and wax cylinders? rgh! Now hold on a minute, there! I happen to own an Edison Standard Model B cylinder record player that I rebuilt to full functionality. If you haven't heard one you can't know how pure an experience it is! The recording process was 100% acoustic. The 100% acoustic playback is on a constant linear velocity cylinder meaning there will be no FM of the background noise as the cylinder spins. Engineering is about compromises- making things "almost as good but cheaper". ALL audio reproduction systems since the Edison cylinder have been attempts to make music playback "almost as good but cheaper". First there was the introduction of constant angular velocity discs, then they added electronics to the recording process, then to the playback process, then transistors replaced tubes, then CDs replaced discs and (ugh!) tapes and everything went digital. If you really want to be shocked, play a recording on your CD player then play the same on a cylinder player. There is NO contest, the cylinder wins hands-down. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50937 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder
In the world of high-end audio, being "unique" and "special" is what it takes to sell a product or to sell your opinions. The author of the article has found his "uniqueness" by making claims counter to all logic and to all other wanna-be audiophile gurus that a lossy codec actually improves sound. That's called marketing. He has found his "thing" and he'll stick to it, hoping it will propel him to the top of the audiophile dung heap. The author of LAME even tells him how to test his "proven" idea- double-blind, but we all know how most audiophiles feel about that subject! It's no wonder a rag called "Positive Feedback" publishes screwy stuff. They're stuck in a loop and feeding back their own nonsense. Expect wild oscillations and lots of annoying noise! I want my 7 minutes back that I wasted reading that dumb article. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50937 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My daughter needs a stereo/cd player for ipod
How about asking at one of the thousands of ipod forums scattered all over the web? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50383 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] power supply upgrade for duet receiver
p-cubed;314488 Wrote: > > Thanks for the Herbach link, but I didn't find any 9v linear supplies > there. > > Quitting while ahead is generally good advice. I never seem to do it > though. Good luck to you, then! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49041 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] power supply upgrade for duet receiver
Here is where you can find low cost power supplies: http://www.herbach.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=HAR&Category_Code=PWS If you don't know how to select among them, upgrading the PS is not for you. The wrong one may destroy your SBR. Quit while you're ahead. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49041 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] power supply upgrade for duet receiver
OMG, here we go again... My AC adapter says 6.8V, not 9V. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49041 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does a dedicated music server make a difference
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48430 Question: Does a dedicated PC/music server sound better than a PC used for other duties? - Yes it does. - No it doesn't make any difference. leo:);309532 Wrote: > You got anything productive to add instead of just trolling? There is nothing to add. This thread is stoopid. There are no facts. No information. It's a bunch of people speculating over possible causes of some effect that the OP may or may not have heard. Meanwhile, throughout all this, the OP neglects to mention that he listening to a modified device- far more likely to result in changes in sound than changing server hardware. It reminds me of a bunch of 10 year olds speculating over whether the red or blue light saber is more deadly. What could anyone add to such an discussion that would make any difference in the outcome? Checking out... TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48430 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does a dedicated music server make a difference
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48430 Question: Does a dedicated PC/music server sound better than a PC used for other duties? - Yes it does. - No it doesn't make any difference. This is getting so silly I can't believe it. Now we find out you're not even listening to a Slimdevices product. Raising doubts about your own, modified unit is one thing. Implying that the problems it may or may not have are somehow related to the off-the-shelf Slimdevices product is something else entirely. ANYTHING could be wrong and could make bad sound if the modifications were not engineered properly and implemented properly. Is there any black electrical tape wrapped around any of the wires? Were all the connections soldered? Did the modifier use rosin core or acid core solder? Pffft! TD PS- When is someone going to start selling modifications to the server software that "improve" the sound? -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48430 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does computer influence Sound from Transporter?
The OS can make a difference, but not in the way that the audio dealer suggests. If you have a PC that runs any form of Windows, you already know about the antivirus, antispyware, security updates and accompanying frequent reboots windows requires just to continue to run. If windows is updating and rebooting in the middle of a party or while you are showing off the system to friends, it could be very embarrassing. Antispyware and antivirus programs also require frequent updates and sometimes reboots. If you want a system that works reliably with minimal maintenance, get a Mac or run a PC with linux. The performance of SqueezeCenter will be better (faster serving of web pages, etc.) and you won't have to do nearly as much maintenance as with a windows machine. Any OS will provide the exact bits required for reconstruction of the audio and barring total interruptions of service due to some of the less reliable OS's, the bits will sound the same. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48214 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BNC or RCA which should I use?
There is no point in using a 75 Ohm output if either the connectors, line or termination are not 75 Ohms. If your cable is a 75 Ohm cable and the connectors on it are 75 Ohm connectors and the amplifier termination is 75 Ohms then use the BNC output. There also isn't much to be point in using controlled impedance lines at low frequencies (such as SPDIF) unless the line is VERY long. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47046 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 2 weeks without LP's!
When I'm not listening to my Edison cylinders, I like to make music, too. I like the sound of bones against rock. I used to like the sound of bones against my dinner's skull, but the neighbors complained to the police about all the missing dogs in the neighborhood so I decided it was time for a change. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46547 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 2 weeks without LP's!
All you vinyl heads are dead wrong. Your new-fangled gizmos such as vinyl LP records, magnetic cartridges, diamond styli, electric motors, etc. are compromises of the infinitely superior shellac recording technology that preceded them. And those are compromises of the one, true, high-fidelity medium ever produced for mass consumption. The ultimate technology of which I speak was developed by none other than Thomas Edison. My 100+ year old Edison Standard model B cylinder record player beats the pants off all the compromise technologies that followed. Analog recording from start to finish, with NO electronics to get in the way and muck up the sound. Combine those attributes with the constant radius, constant linear velocity of the disc playback, the medium- stearate wax, and the spherical sapphire pick-up and you have the best 2 minutes of recorded audio you have probably never heard. And we all know from experience that 2 minutes is the optimum match to the human attention span. Not too short to rouse one's interest without bedding it back down, and not too long that one will fall asleep part way through the performance. 40-50 minutes on a single LP/CD? Ridiculous! Variable velocity/radius on a disc medium? Nonsense! Electronics between the instruments/singers and the recording medium? Poppycock! Electronics in the playback chain? Foolishness! All compromises on the best system ever developed. I should also point out that the Edison cylinder system is as green as can be. A wind up motor and no electricity. Zero carbon footprint! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46547 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] audio insanity
What a waste. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46270 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] lust object speakers
haunyack;260933 Wrote: > Hi TD, > I'm getting ready to list my B&W Matrix 805's (pre-Nautilus), along > with high pass alignment filter on ebay. > > Maybe a pair of quality bookshelf (monitor) speakers will fill the > gap. > > If interested pm me. > Cheers! > > . I'm in school so I don't have the budget (school gets all my money- dental for me, medical for my wife - about $80k total, just in 2007) and I really don't have time for either audio projects or listening to music, so I'll probably just go back to headphones. I have a couple pairs of Koss ESP-950s that sound really good... Thanks for the offer. Now I have to get back to studying for tomorrow's head and neck anatomy exam. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42393 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] lust object speakers
pfarrell;259967 Wrote: > I wish that quads, or maggie's, were compatible with my wife. I used to have a big house in Texas when I built my 2'x4' ESLs, and later got a pair of ESL-63s. My wife didn't seem to mind them then, though they were not much to look at. Now I live in a smaller place and the speakers don't really fit. She's starting to bug me about them. I may have to store them for a couple years until I'm in a bigger place again. I would have put them into storage a long time ago, but I don't have anything else to listen with but headphones and I always feel silly dancing around a quiet room with headphones on. I guess I need to work on a quality, small speaker project. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42393 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which "budget constrained" DAC for SB3?
In the old days, when amps had tone controls, people used to just turn up the treble a little to get more "life" in the music. Now they spend several hundred dollars on DACs and interconnect cables (like dumb and dumber) in feeble attempts to get the same effect. Get yourself a 70s-80s vintage amp that has tone controls from your local garage sale. It shouldn't cost more than $10-20, depending on its condition. Lift the treble slightly (turn the treble knob just a little clockwise). Enjoy your music once again. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39892 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Music streaming, Video Display option with Squeezebox, network storage
I can't wait to see the posts about the headaches and brain cancer caused by having wi-fi headphones! Such a product will really bring out the aluminum foil hat crowd! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40157 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stabilizing the SB3
Listener;241092 Wrote: > Olives are graded by size. The smallest size is "medium". then "large". > "Colossal" is somewhat larger but far from one-to-a-can. No "Small" > grade rarely makes it to the store. Bill Oh, I get it! Like virgin and extra-virgin olive oil... What I want to know is where is all the experienced olive oil? Are the Italians keeping it for themselves? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stabilizing the SB3
sgoldfin;240911 Wrote: > I am connecting the SB3 to the PSAudio Digital Link III. I found a HUGE > improvement by placing the SB on sorbothane balls, and then placing > HEAVY disks on top of the SB. This was especially the case when the SB > was resting on another component that generateed vibration. Try it and > see! Did you try moving the SB3 off of the vibrating machinery? Try swapping it's location with your DVD player... TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stabilizing the SB3
I am depressed. I will never know the joys of the "huge" improvements due to sorbothane balls, sticky dots, wood pucks, green pens, CD demagnetizers, $500 power cords, etc., that bring such transcendent bliss to so many serious audiophiles. It's all because I learned the meanings of adjectives from dictionaries rather than audiophile magazines and advertisements. I blame my parents! If only they had steered me toward the right literature when I was a child I might not suffer this loss of sensibility today. I wonder if I can get a handicapped parking permit... TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stabilizing the SB3
Was your SB3 sitting on a paint shaker before you put it on sorbothane balls? When you say HUGE, do you mean GIGANTIC or merely STUPENDOUS? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC decode - server or SB?
The only difference it will make is the BW used on the network. .flac will use about 1/2 the BW that .wav will. That shouldn't matter unless you signal is weak and prone to drop-outs or if you have a bunch of SBs or other network traffic going on at the same time you're trying to listen to music. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Annoying tick when fridge turns on/off
TiredLegs;239004 Wrote: > That's like saying you can't save money by insulating an old home. Are you nuts? The difference is that if you insulate an old home, you add reduce heating and cooling costs by maybe $100-300 per month, depending on the speifics, and nothing gets sent to the dump. If you replace a refrigerator you spend $800 or more to reduce your electric bill by $5 per month, plus you send a working refrigerator to the scrap heap. When you insulate an old house, not only do you start saving money on your energy bills, but you increase the value of the house. The insulation pays for itself in a relatively short period. When you buy a new refrigerator, is gets older and lower in value everyday. It might pay for itself in the power savings in about 30 years. Spending $ on a new refrigerator because the old one makes clicky noises in your audio system is just plain dumb. It is almost but not quite as dumb as spending $Xk for a power line regenerator for the same reason. Switching to battery power because the refrigerator makes clicky noises in the audio system is still more silliness. Do you always dance around problems this way? You are a marketer's dream come true! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39691 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Annoying tick when fridge turns on/off
The noise comes from the compressor motor. When the fridge turns on there is a sudden, large inrush of current because the motor looks like a huge capacitor. That surge puts a transient spike on the power line that is finding it's way into your system. The best thing to do would be to separate the power circuits for the audio and the fridge. If you can't do that, you might try putting a line filter in either the audio or the fridge's power or both. No, I don't mean a $5k power regenerator that the audiophool shops sell for this sort of problem. I mean line filters like these: http://state-electronics.com/corcom/corcom2.asp maybe the K series parts. Surplus dealers often have these sorts of filters available for very low cost. Specs are not critical for your app. Just make sure the filter you get is rated for enough current to handle the load you will apply. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39691 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Bolder Mods
liffy99;238257 Wrote: > The differences aren't night and day, and don't show up that well on A/B > comparison, but just relax and you'll soon hear the difference. I think that says it all. It is very much like the psychics who can't work their miracles under scientific test conditions because the effect is "shy". If everyone involved just takes a few deep breaths, suspends their critical thought processes, and puts their attention elsewhere, the miracles will happen. How much did this lesson cost you? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39684 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 interference due to titanium dental implant?
TPost;238192 Wrote: > Is there a remote possibility of the contents of this post being true? > You are scaring me!:) Why, do you have an implant? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35150 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New 3rd party power supply
SatoriGFX;237790 Wrote: > If I have read Sean's responses correctly he doesn't think the power > supply makes a difference in the sound quality of the Squeezebox itself > but does suggest that it is possible that RF noise put out by the stock > PSU "may" interfere with other components in the system. > > So, if that is true, there "can" indeed be a difference in final sound > quality by substituting a linear PSU in place of the stock switching > PSU. The fact that the sound coming from the Squeezebox hasn't changed > is neither here nor there. If the reduced RF noise improves the sound > of some other part of the system the net effect is still the same, an > improvement. > > I have not tested a linear PSU in place of the stock unit so I don't > know either way. But, it seems to me to makes sense to limit the > amount of RF noise floating around your system as much as possible. The horse is dead. You can stop beating it! That dog won't hunt! Run it up the flag pole and see who salutes... My detractors have misunderestimated me again. TD PS- your digital watch MAY cause interference with your freezer. Better get rid of the watch, quick! -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39353 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter vs Old Transporter
Great! This is how a new market for vintage audiophile gear is created. Some guy claims his "old" one was better then a "new" one and the result is bidding wars on ebay for the "old" ones. Dope fiends call this "chasing the dragon". With every successive use of the drug you try to recapture the feeling from that first time but you keep getting farther from it. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39577 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter reviewed in TNT-Audio
Ray70;235224 Wrote: > > The Transporter modification threads amuse me greatly. If the > Transporter is that good, why all this fuss about modifying it? Well, > I'm off to put on my flame proof suit. For some reason, in relatively recent years, the idea that everything must be modified to work best has become a popular one. Before that, the popular idea was to buy the most expensive brand you could afford (trusting the equipment manufacturer to select the best possible components). Now the boutique component sellers have people buying the most expensive brand of equipment they can afford, then buying the most expensive boutique components they can afford to modify it. Where is all this leading? To the death of high-end audio. People no longer trust even high-end manufacturers to use the appropriate/best parts. Snake-oil salesmen have eroded trust in trust even further, after all, if some little block of wood placed strategically on the corner of an amp can turn it from being just adequate to absolutely mind-blowingly fantastic, what can the engineers possibly know about making audio equipment? The result is that Joe 6-pack thinks high-end is a complete scam and he goes back to Walmart or Radio Shack when he needs a new stereo. It's a shame people as so easily manipulated, but it is a result of people wanting to think the best of others. They don't want to think that the guy selling the $500 power cord is lying or even delusional. They want to think that he is a honest person who knows what he is talking about. Finally, if you find the equipment "unexciting", "uninvolving", etc., it is probably because it is doing exactly what it is supposed to- providing flat frequency response with little distortion. Most equipment does these days, even the cheap stuff. Maybe you should try listening to some other music. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39093 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Level matching - a cautionary tale
But where is the documentation that tells anyone that the capability is there? What else are they hiding in there? How often does it turn on the built in mic and night vision camera so they can monitor everything going on in my home? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38553 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which sounds better?
Besides, who listens to a CD player anymore when we have SBs? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39167 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can't hear the difference between lossy and lossless!
Make sure that you aren't streaming flac files as mp3. Then you'd be comparing mp3 to mp3. Don't expect much difference at high bit rates. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice please hi-fi geeks
tot;233199 Wrote: > They look the same, how could she be suspicious? :) The old one would have a slimdevices logo on the faceplate and the newer on would have the logitech logo! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39067 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power Supply Question
Yes, the SB runs warm. It is normal. If the supply provides 5V it should not harm the unit or cause any other problems. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38926 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Someone tell me I am crazy!
s on and on. CF is a material that all sort of magical properties have been assigned to simply by the nature of the things it is used in, and for audiophiles, by its high price tag. Critical thinking, indeed! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Test your ears, Speakers or generate impuls response characteristics of your room!
This sort of thing is a good way to destroy tweeters. Good luck to all who DL and run the file. This sort of thing would be a good "trojan" for the RIAA to put on P2P networks. Label it as some kind of popular song title and have 0dB 20 kHz + 0dB 20 kHz either sumperimposed on the music or replacing it altogether. The damage will be done in just a second or two, anyway. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38842 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Someone tell me I am crazy!
Dyak;231488 Wrote: > the number of people (well respected and otherwise) that have reported > positive audible benefits that these products supposedly provide can > not (at least not by me) be dismissed out-of-hand > You're making a common logic error. Just because a large number of people say something is true does not actually make that thing true, especially when a lot of those people earn their living selling the thing they are talking-up. For example, look at astrology. There are many millions of people who believe their lives are controlled by such silliness as where the stars and planets are in relation to each other and the earth. Are they right? What about psychics? Do you think any of them really can see the future? A lot of women who live in trailers do. How about Naziism? A lot of people were convinced that there was an ultimate solution to all of mankind's problems. Were they right? Look how many people voted for W, not once, but twice! That alone should tell you about the wisdom of crowds. All of this still ignores the dangers of handling CF and especially the danger of CF fiber fragments getting into your audio equipment and wrecking it. You can make all the arguments you want about stealth technology and whatever crap you read on some internet forum populated by religious fanatics disguised as audiophiles, or in marketing literature from companies trying to sell expensive stuff to audiophiles. In the end, if you wrap your equipment in CF cloth it is unlikely to keep working for very long. If you are lucky, no one including you, your children, spouse, guests, or pets will have the mind-bending experience of inhaling any of those flying fiber fragments. What makes more sense, listening to a salesman whose next boat payment depends on your believing what he says or believing what the MSDS says, and what people who have handled the material say? I think the public school system in this country needs to put a lot more effort into teaching critical thinking skills... TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Someone tell me I am crazy!
The big problem with ignorance is that it limits your ability to sort out what you know and what you don't. Those who don't know about a particular thing are inclined to think that they know more than they do. There is an interesting paper on the subject of self-knowledge (or the lack thereof) here: http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf Read, enjoy and learn! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Someone tell me I am crazy!
donwalker;231005 Wrote: > Phil the tin foil will reflect the waves created by the sb. So the tin > foil will create a little mircowave oven that will cook the sb and > create more distortion. You seriously need to study something other than high-end audio marketing propaganda. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] VDC-SB: Power supply for SB from CIAudio
SatoriGFX;230952 Wrote: > Nobody claimed it could. But, to say that then means that using an > external supply will make no difference is like saying there is no need > to quite smoking since the air quality outside is bad anyhow. Every > little bit helps. No, it's not the same. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38738 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] VDC-SB: Power supply for SB from CIAudio
An external supply can't eliminate the noise from the internal switcher. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38738 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Someone tell me I am crazy!
I like to see DBT results for "shielding" equipment and cables. You wrap your stuff up and expect to hear a difference, therefore you hear a difference. Try is when you don't know if the stuff is wrapped or not. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Someone tell me I am crazy!
donwalker;230236 Wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_fiber regular cf. > > Nano tube cf (the really really bad stuff) - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_nanotube > > Diesel cars and trucks are more harmful than cf. The particles from > diesel engines are very small and get stuck in the lungs. CF particles > do not get stuck in the lungs. Dust and particles are not the same thing a small, straight, needle-like pieces of fiber. I don't think they get stuck in the lungs because they make you cough until you gag trying to expel them from your trachea. I don't recommend it, but it's easy enough to test. Get yourself a piece of CF cloth- any size will do. Flex it a few times, cut it with scissors, etc. without using any protective mask, gloves, or goggles. You will experience the "joy" for yourself. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Someone tell me I am crazy!
donwalker;229950 Wrote: > Please see: > > http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/tweaks/messages/14/149384.html > > I believe the people in AA not as closed minded as this group. > David Aiken's post looks pretty much like what I said. If by close minded you mean experienced in handling CF cloth, then you are right. donwalker;229950 Wrote: > > I hear solid improvements with the application of the CF. > > Tin foil will not work as well it only changes the RF - CF absorbs the > RF and turns them into heat. > > I think the real question is "what are the health affect of RF". Why does aluminum foil merely "change" the RF while CF turns it into heat? What sort of "change" occurs? Why is that less desireable than turning it into heat? How does either of the effects improve the audio when the material of choice is wrapped around a power cord? "What are the health effects of RF?" is certainly an interesting question. When you know the answer please share it with us. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interesting SlimServer experience...
fred7;230254 Wrote: > I think that wireless connections in general have some reliability > issues. That's why the signaling format is TCP/IP and why the SB has a large buffer. There are no issues. Either it works or it doesn't. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38674 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] plug and play linear supply (part 2)
jeffmeh;229719 Wrote: > I am not quite sure how to interpret this remark. That comment was in response to Max F's post. -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32231 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Someone tell me I am crazy!
donwalker;229475 Wrote: > > I am VERY concerned that there might be health hazards. I have been > doing some searches, but have not found anything earth shaking. Does > anyone have any links to the health effects of using carbon fiber > without a matrix? The MSDS would lead you to believe that it's pretty harmless stuff, but I have experienced the itch and the coughing associated with airborne fibers when I was building my bicycle. The itch is comparable to that from handling glass fiber insulation, but the cough is unbelievable. I have never coughed so hard in my life. It may not be carcinogenic, but it is most definitely nasty stuff. The most obvious and undeniable (read the MSDS) issue is the electrical conductivity of the loose fibers. Wrapping CF cloth around electrical/electronic equipment is begging for problems. Good luck! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] plug and play linear supply (part 2)
The human mind is simply astounding! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32231 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Someone tell me I am crazy!
I say this from experience: you ARE crazy. Carbon fiber cloth is made up of tows that have typically 3,000 much-finer-than-hair fibers. Handling the cloth invariably causes some of the fibers to break and they are so light they will waft into the air and easily get into your eyes, stick into your skin, and be inhaled. I have had the itch from getting them on my skin and the coughing fits associated with inhaling the flying fragments. I thought I was going to cough up a lung. Oh yeah, CF is electrically conductive. Those little flying fiber fragments will land on your circuit boards and get into connectors and switches and short things out. You will be lucky if your equipment continues to work at all. If you have ANY sense at all, you will put on some gloves, safety goggles and a face mask, carry that equipment with the CF out of doors, take all that CF off the stuff and vacuum the equipment thoroughly before taking it back into your home. I'd do a lot of vacuuming in the house where you were handling the stuff, too. CF is not to be played with around electrical equipment. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Affordable Audio review of SB3
andy74;227491 Wrote: > Hey TD, > > It is very hard to estimate the refresh rate by just looking at it:) I > need to look it up on the internet I am away from it right now (the HP > PS I mean). But it might be that the peaks are bigger. > > And the other thought. I tried the ethernet connection. And the current > seems a bit more stable. (I lied in my previous post it was not a 1mA > straight it is 2mA but very seldom, But in the ethernet case it IS > stable 1mA, honest). But I do not like how ethernet sounds. it probably > produces other kinds of noise, which I don't like. The cause may be that > ethernet have a wired connection to the PC hence grounding not > isolated. > > Andrey I think you missed my point which was that a DPM on the front panel of a power supply is no way to evaluate what is or isn't going on in a circuit. There are a large number of reasons why you may see the current display on the power supply change, and they don't necessarily imply audible artifacts. Do you have replaygain in the flac file? .wav doesn't have any tagging, so no replay gain. If there is a gain mismatch between the flac and wav playback one may sound "better" than the other. The effects you are hearing may be due to psychological factors. There are a couple ways to find out- look for visible artifacts on a scope trace (but then you have to decide if anything you see is audible) or conduct a blind (preferably double blind) test. You may be surprised to discover that the effects you heard so clearly are actually nonexistent. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38258 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Affordable Audio review of SB3
andy74;227466 Wrote: > > I use HP power supply to feed the SB3 which shows 3 digits after the > point for current value. > When I stream Flac the current value changes in range 0.930-940 A > But when I stream WAV it changes in range 0.925-0.926A no more. How often does that display refresh? I ask because you may be missing much bigger momentary peaks in the current drain that may be occurring. Ignorance really IS bliss! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38258 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] High Frequency tone in the noise floor on SB3 R channel
The next version of the SB should be a box with no display and a remote control with a big display. Of course, the big display will be a power hog, so the remote will need to sit in a nice display stand/charging dock. You could do this yourself now by modifying the heck out of the SB - get rid of the display and put in an analog supply for the audio stages that are normally powered by dc-dc converter in the power supply. Use N800 type device as the remote control/display. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32045 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] need new cd burner
If you get a DVD drive make sure you get a dual layer capable drive. That can come in handy for "backing-up" your DVD collection. There's plenty of free software out there that makes it easy. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38400 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Affordable Audio review of SB3
corbey;226652 Wrote: > Another questionable part of this review, at least to me, is his > assertion that upgrading the external power supply completely > transforms the sound of the Squeezebox. > There are only four reasons for the sound of a device to be "completely transformed" by changing a power supply (or its line cord): 1) The power supply design was woefully inadequate to start- a condition not found in any commercial product I have ever seen or heard-of. 2) Someone is trying to sell a power supply. 3) Someone is trying to maintain/enhance their "street-cred" among audiophiles, usually so they can sell stuff to them in the future. 4) Someone wants to stroke their own ego - being able to hear things others can't makes them better then those others. Experience has taught me that 2, 3, and 4 often accompany each other. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38258 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power Supply Upgrade for SB3?
gdg;226223 Wrote: > Dudes, > an engineer/audiophile friend just informed me that the SB3 power > supply isn't a problem at the digital output but it does radiate AC > noise. I figure a decent line conditioner with dedicated digital > filters should do the job. A digital watch radiates noise too, but when have you heard anyone complaining about it? A linear supply radiates noise- look at the waveform at the rectifiers and explain how THAT won't radiate. It isn't a matter of does it radiate- everything does, it is a matter of how much it radiates. It is also a matter of how susceptible other devices are to that radiation. You're going to get a what, $500 line conditioner to theoretically counteract the noise made by a $5 power supply? In this context the guys who spend $300 for a linear supply for the SBs look downright sensible! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38271 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power Supply Upgrade for SB3?
bad.wolf;226209 Wrote: > Hi live in the UK and bought this one from Russ Andrews. > > http://www.russandrews.com/lookup/1/region/UK/currency/GBP/customer_id/PAA0999099307228YFPFJNCLQVWBGKOH/product-SqueezePak-power-supply-for-Squeezebox-1810.htm > > Found a definite improvement although without doubt a tad expensive, > but once youve bought it youve bought it! > Bad wolf You're replacing a switch mode supply with a switch mode supply? Now I've heard everything! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38271 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power Supply Upgrade for SB3?
jeffmeh;226151 Wrote: > Maybe. Some people have found it to make a difference, others have not. > The most plausible hypothesis is that the RFI generated by the stock > switching supply presents no problem for the SB3, but it can affect > other components more sensitive to this RFI. > > I bought an inexpensive, linear, regulated PSU and could not hear any > difference. YMMV. Everyone who does this assumes that the switching supply radiates more RFI than the linear supply that they are replacing it with. This is not necessarily the case. Without numbers you are just guessing. You may as well reverse the resistors in the SB and hope that the thing will sound better when you're through. But which ones? All of them? A few critical ones? One guess is as good as another. Maybe you need a linear supply AND reversed resistors... TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38271 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Affordable Audio review of SB3
Phil Leigh;226103 Wrote: > That's a good point - maybe we could witness the birth of a new myth! > :o) It could lie right along side the extant myth about CDs copied to CDR sounding better than the factory pressed CDs. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38258 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] F/S New Apple Iphone 8gb Unlocked at $300usd
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?
Balanced I/O is best for very long cable runs. It is unlikely you'd hear any difference between a balanced and an unbalanced run if it is only 1m long. Save your money. Moving your speakers 6" will have a bigger effect on the sound than spending money on expensive/balanced cables. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37428 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Question about volume
There is no standard for "line level" outputs. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36997 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
Pat Farrell;215942 Wrote: > > > > "It's a quiet, unassuming little amp, with a cinnamony finish and > > raspberry overtones- never offensive, and sometimes a bit too > polite". > > [not HIS quote, mine]... > > This is good, as are the "too much chocolate" > > But the best is his "more yin than yang" > I can almost imagine what ice cream with too much chocolate would taste > > like, but I have no idea which is the yin and which is the yang. > > -- > Pat > http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html I like "as bittersweet as bittersweet can be" from Cameo. They were talking about a woman, but woman, amplifier, what's the difference? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
tingtong5;215905 Wrote: > I can recommend it as well (got a copy myself). Robert Harley was the marketing "genius" who came up with the idea of applying the same BS, anthropomorphic terms used to describe/market wine to audio equipment. He singlehandedly invented the audio snake-oil industry. "It's a quiet, unassuming little amp, with a cinnamony finish and raspberry overtones- never offensive, and sometimes a bit too polite". [not HIS quote, mine]... Yeah, sure, you betcha! That's the guy I want telling me what to think about audio! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
alZmtbr;215617 Wrote: > Hey! I resemble that remark! > > CHEERS! > ~a For your sake, I hope not! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Are measurements meaningful?
Engineers use numbers to describe circuit behavior in an objective way. If you are the sort of person who doesn't believe in numbers, measurements are meaningless. If you are the sort of person who believes numbers without questioning their relevance and the methodology that was used to get them, they are meaningless. Measurements are only meaningful to someone who understands what they represent, which leaves out most people when you talk about audio and other electronic measurements. One thing is for sure "if there ain't no numbers, there ain't no engineering!" Think about that when you try to compare interconnect or speaker cables. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36952 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Amps without tone controls
These days audiophiles prefer to buy expensive cables to modify the tone- the cable marketing companies (yes, marketing, not engineering) count this as their greatest success. People can be such dopes! If you like tone controls then use them. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36887 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
This thread alone should convince you that aspiring to be an audiophile is the social equivalent of aspiring to be a pederast: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
Pale Blue Ego;215581 Wrote: > What's to learn? You already have a very nice system. Enjoy it. > > Or, you can spend ungodly amounts of time and money seeking > increasingly tiny improvements, driving yourself broke and bonkers in > the process, and not really enjoying the music as much because you're > constantly twiddling with the system or dreaming about the next tiny > improvement and how to pay for it. Don't forget about boring the s**t out of others who really don't care a bit about your efforts to achieve audio nirvana. Last but not least, don't forget about posting completely idiotic statements about your extraordinary hearing acuity and the tremendous improvements in sound you get by whatever impossibly stupid audiophile tweak you applied this week. Last, last but not least, make sure you bone up on quantum mechanics. Not enough to really understand it, just enough to pepper your forum posts with a few buzz-words that will rally fellow audiophiles to your cause and reveal your true lack of intelligence to everyone else. Anyone ever notice how many audiophiles are deeply effected by quantum mechanics yet so few are susceptible to psychological effects such as suggestion and physiological effects such as reduced high frequency hearing ability that comes with age? They truly are a super-human breed! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
Let me present a few web pages and you identify which type of audiophile you think you have more affinity towards... http://www.machinadynamica.com/index.html http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/ or http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php http://www.linkwitzlab.com/ These represent extreme ends of the audiophile spectrum. Which end do you think you fall closer to? What is your education level and in what topics? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
What sort of audiophile do you want to be? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak
haunyack;214971 Wrote: > > As for laminar flow, it applies to an object moving through space, in > this case I would say that space (sound waves) are moving through an > object (grill clothe) Flow or an object moving through a fluid is not the same a waves moving around an object. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36854 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak
Now THIS is a thread! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36854 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak
Actually, at subsonic speeds, a layer of dirt would probably improve aerodynamics by trapping a layer of still air against the body of the car. Air slides over air more easily than air slides over the car body. This is the reason why golf balls have a dimpled cover. They fly farther with the dimpled cover because of reduced drag. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36854 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak
You know, my car always seems to "drive better" when it's clean. I wonder if it is the same phenomenon... TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36854 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Amiga 500 power supply for SB3 - good idea?
Veggen;214258 Wrote: > Why bother replying when you have nothing useful to contribute? My point was that asking for other people's opinions about it when you have it sitting in front of you is sort of silly. It's like seeing that it is raining outside and asking other people's opinions if you'll get wet when you go out there. Some things are easier to just try out than to boot up your computer, start the browser, navigate to a forum, type the question, then wait for answers. And your invaluable contribution is...? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36631 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Amiga 500 power supply for SB3 - good idea?
signor_rossi;214186 Wrote: > @tyler_durden: The noise I refer to is a high frequency pulse emitted by > the PS that I easily hear and which is disturbing me during low volume > listening, since I am not far away from it when doing so ( I am always > talking about the DAC PS, the SB3 PS is fine). The question about a > replacement SB3 PS was just curiosity. > > Bye, signor_rossi. Why bother asking when you can simply plug it in and listen to it? If you like it use it. If you don't, don't. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36631 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Amiga 500 power supply for SB3 - good idea?
What difference does it make if the power supply makes noise and you have an instrument to measure it? You're switching the supply from the stock unit because you think it might sound better. So just plug it in and try it. If you like the sound, who cares if it makes noise? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36631 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
opaqueice;214115 Wrote: > So just the contrary, 2007 science predicts that you WILL hear > differences even when they're not there - and you do. I've never > understood why people have so much trouble with that concept. I think that your average, golden-eared audiophile is just like the guy who spends vast sums on wine because he can taste a difference. Both, frequently the same folks, have an innate desire to be better than the great, unwashed masses. Having golden ears is the perfect way to be better than others because no one can disprove your claims. Salesmen keep reinforcing the belief that they are a unique and uniquely deserving species. Statistics about human behavior include everyone, but since everyone includes the majority of insensitive, average Joes, the statistics mainly apply to them and less so to audiophiles. Therefore, the audiophile is NOT subject to the common effects of suggestion, physiological limitations on hearing acuity, etc. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stereophile review
jhm731;210285 Wrote: > > As a percentage of product cost/development, Porche puts a lot more > time & money into designing and building their engines than TacT or > Meridan puts into power supplies. Perhaps this can be considered evidence of the relative importance of the power supply in the overall sound of the equipment. If the designers think an off-the-shelf supply is adequate, maybe, just maybe, it is. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26306 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder Modded SB3 compared to an external DAC
Aw nutz! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36155 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Jitter vs. "Drift"
JJZolx;206912 Wrote: > What are the sonic implications with regard to the simple, basic timing > ability of the Squeezebox when over the course of a long song the two > players can drift a full second or more apart? The "drift" is most likely due to slightly different frequencies in the clocks of the two units, probably arising from the tolerance in the reference crystal frequency. You would find the same sort of "drift" among any number of CD players you'd care to test. The only cure would be to use a single clock and distribute it to all units, but who would bother? The sonic implications are that if you are in ear-shot of both players, you're going to hear an echo. Otherwise, the pitch will be off on all the notes. Everything will be sharp or flat. But by how much? If there is a 1 second error at the end of a 10 minute song (600 seconds) the error is 0.17%. A above middle C is 440 Hz. A 0.17% error in that note is 0.73 Hz. I doubt even the most golden of ears can hear that (though I am sure a few will claim to). That's why the sonic implications are a non-issue. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35866 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
I have read that audio equipment is as good as it can get and that if you want to improve the sound further the only option left (after suitable acoustic treatment of the room) is to modify the listener to enhance their perceptual abilities. I read on one of the hi-end forums that if you put the barrel of a loaded shotgun in your mouth, flip off the safety, and pull the trigger, your stereo system will suddenly sound like a choir of angels! There was some argument about how/why this could work, but in the end I sided with the guys who said "music isn't about measurements and explanations. It's about feelings..." I can't wait to try it! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder modded SB3 sounds too digital
I think you need to have the 47 Labs DAC modded... Which version of flac did you use when you ripped? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35803 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD burn in time.
I found that a bath in methylene chloride, commonly known as paint stripper, taking the plastic layer off the metal, makes it much easier for the camera in the disc player to see the 1's and 0's. All halos that can make 1's look like 0s are eliminated. The lower mass of the disc reduces the load on the motor so modulation of the power supply voltage that feeds the DAC is reduced. Also, the focus coil for the camera lens has to work less because the metal surface is much smoother than the plastic surface. This too, leads to lower power supply modulation. -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35788 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will this Elpac Power Supply Work?
Everyone assumes that a linear regulated supply will be an improvement over the switcher that comes with the SB3, but no one seems to be testing the idea that one switcher may sound better than another. We'll never know if no one listens... TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35704 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Budget Sound System Improvement
http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/Free_Techniques/Free_Techniques.html TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35646 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
Bas Horneman;204697 Wrote: > Nah that won't work. A once off extreme cooling session...aka cryo > treatment will have lasting benefits! ;) After it has been cryoed it is > hard to describe the improvement...but it's like a veil has been lifted. I think I can provide a more detailed description. It's like a bride's veil has been lifted, and you are the groom, and her warm, moist lips are waiting for your first kiss. Her ample chest is heaving with anticipation and you feel a stirring in your nether region... TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
Besides, the SB3 is already super-cool anyway. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SuperCooled SqueezeBox
Heat increases thermal noise. Thermal noise is audible as hissing in analog circuits. It also contributes to jitter in digital circuits. It also decreases the life of electronic components. The reason radio astronomers use cryogenically cooled amplifiers in their antenna systems is to minimize the thermal noise to effectively improve the S/N ratio of their receivers. The circuits they use use semiconductors that are designed and built to work at cryogenic temperatures. If you cool a "normal" transistor to cryogenic temperatures it will probably stop working until it warms up again (assuming it doesn't get destroyed by the cooling/rewarming processes). TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35531 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody heard the TP with word clock output into a external Rubidium clock generator?
It's expensive, so it MUST be good! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35570 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply - first impressions
liffy99;203943 Wrote: > Whether this is a result of the power feed to the SB3, or a reduction in > switch mode artefacts not reaching the digital processing sections of my > Lyngdorf (TACT) amp I couldn't say. But there has, for me, been a > worthwhile improvement, made all the better considering the great price > I got the Acopian for ! Maybe it's the power of expectation... TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35518 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Loony politicians want to ban linear PSU!
The best audio stuff is the stuff you make yourself, and they can't ban that, so it's no big deal. I'm not sure that "linear" supplies are better anyway. They are big and heavy in addition to being inefficient. Maybe the power line frequency should be boosted to 100 kHz instead. Power transformers would shrink and smoothing caps in supplies would be smaller. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35430 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help: speakers and kid's safety
You could probably design some sort of wide spaced base using PVC pipe in about 10 minutes. The pipe could then be filled with concrete, gravel, sand, lead shot, water, whatever you want to add some weight. A pair of stands might cost all of $20 to build and take all of an hour to measure, cut, and glue the pipe. Use schedule 40 PVC water pipe and there will be no worries about the strength of the structure- I built my son's loft bed from 2" schedule 40 about 5 years ago and he still uses it. See it here: http://mark.rehorst.com/PVC_Loft_Bed/index.htm TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35325 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help: speakers and kid's safety
Um, how about doing the obvious thing- screw the stands to the floor and screw the speakers to the stands? That wasn't so hard, was it? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35325 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Default Maximum "safe" voltage from PSU to SB3?
Most linear supplies have trimmers to adjust the output voltages. Look for one (them) and adjust as required to get 5V out. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35266 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hum?
Are you using a wireless SB, or using a network cable to connect it to your audio system? Power line conditioners are no solution to a ground loop problem, or are a VERY expensive solution. Of course, the guys who sell them will tell you that you need one to fix that hum, but what do you expect from someone whose eyes are fixed firmly on your wallet? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33414 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Flac or Apple Lossless?
opaqueice;201616 Wrote: > I don't understand the arguments against ALAC on the basis that it's > closed and therefore Apple may cease to support it. Is it really > reasonable to suppose that all of a sudden all software capable of > playing ALAC will disappear, leaving ALAC users up a creek? Is there any possibility that Apple would pull a M$ and render old files incompatible with newer versions of the encoder/decoder? M$ does it ALL the time with their so-called upgrades to their OS and Office Suites. The only reason to do it is to force the masses to spend the money on the "upgrade" to a 1000 more "features" that they don't need anyway. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34953 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Tuning up Sean Adam's standard response checklist
I've added a few items. Let's get this thing tuned up right! You claim that an ( ) audible ( ) measurable ( ) hypothetical improvement in sound quality can be attained by: ( ) upsampling ( ) non-oversampling ( ) increasing word size ( ) vibration dampening ( ) bi-wiring ( ) replacing the external power supply ( ) using a different lossless format ( ) decompressing on the server ( ) removing bits of metal from skull ( ) using ethernet instead of wireless ( ) inverting phase ( ) reversing “polarity” of resistors ( ) ultra fast recovery rectifiers ( ) installing bigger connectors ( ) installing Black Gate caps ( ) installing ByBee filters ( ) installing hospital-grade AC jacks ( ) defragmenting the hard disk ( ) running older firmware ( ) using exotic materials in cabinet ( ) bronze heatsinks ( ) violin lacquer ( ) $500 power cords Your idea will not work. Specifically, it fails to account for: ( ) the placebo effect ( ) your ears honestly aren't that good ( ) your idea has already been thoroughly disproved ( ) modern DACs upsample anyway ( ) those products are pure snake oil ( ) lossless formats, by definition, are lossless ( ) those measurements are bogus ( ) sound travels much slower than you think ( ) electric signals travel much faster than you think ( ) that's not how binary arithmetic works ( ) that's not how TCP/IP works ( ) the Nyquist theorem ( ) the can't polish a turd theorem ( ) bits are bits You will try to defend you idea by: ( ) claiming that your ears are “trained” ( ) claiming immunity to psychological/physiological factors that affect everyone else ( ) name-calling Your subsequent arguments will probably appeal in desperation to such esoterica as: ( ) jitter ( ) EMI ( ) thermal noise ( ) quantum mechanical effects ( ) resonance ( ) existentialism ( ) nihilism ( ) communism ( ) cosmic rays And you will then change the subject to: ( ) theories are not the same as facts ( ) measurements don't tell everything ( ) not everyone is subject to the placebo effect ( ) blind testing is dumb ( ) you can't prove what I can't hear ( ) science isn't everything Rather than engage in this tired discussion, I suggest exploring the following factors which are more likely to improve sound quality in your situation: ( ) room acoustics ( ) source material ( ) type of speakers ( ) speaker placement ( ) crossover points ( ) equalization ( ) Q-tips ( ) psychoanalysis ( ) trepanation TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35212 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Flac or Apple Lossless?
I hate to spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) but I'll do it anyway... ALAC is closed. That means you don't know what they put in there. Is there a switch that allows apple to turn off files so they won't play any more or can't be copied more than x times? Is there something that sends a message to apple every time you play one of those files on your Mac/PC? I recall that a couple years ago itunes switched off or reduced copy capability in people's paid-for libraries without permission (other than that afforded by the purchase contract that said they could modify the terms at their will any time) or prior notice. Were those file ALAC encoded? Proprietary formats suck. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34953 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles