Re: God as Forgiver
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I'm not sure if I'd agree. I'd say that some or most of the laws of Shari`ah belong to the dust bin of history but there are inspirational passages in the Quran that will be eternal. And in the Bible, etc. Unfortunately, most have ignored the inspirational passages and are stuck in the minutiae of law, insisting that their holy book is the last word of God, their religion the last religion, their law the last law, and their prophet the last prophet. What nonsense. Iskandar On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM, wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Iskandar, > > Muslims have to put away their Qurans, or at least put them on the shelf > with copies of L Ron Hubbard books. > __ > __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-549223-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: God as Forgiver
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The unforgivable sin is hating the light. There are those who didnt recognise the manifestation who were forgiven. Even those who cursed the manifestations who repented and were forgiven. It is despising the light. Read some answered questions "blasphemy against the holy spirit". Please see this link. http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/ab/SAQ/saq-31.html __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-549220-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: God as Forgiver
The Baha'i Studies Listserv First, I have to note that you did not answer Iskandar's question. I have no source, either, but I do vaguely remember reading something to the effect that Islam will be forgotten in the future - I think it as referring to the suffering inflicted on The Bab, Babi's, Baha'u'llah and early Bahai's. >From whatever I read I did not get the impression that Muslims as a whole are not forgiven. The specific clerics who instigate in the abuse and continue to lead their people astray, perhaps . or perhaps not. Christ said that the only unforgivable sin is to deny the Holy Spirit. I think it was either Baha'u'llah or 'Abdu'l Baha who explained that this means to fail to recognize the current Manifestation. Again, I'm a terrible one for remembering sources, but I've also read that those who did not recognize Him during their lifetimes have another opportunity in the next world, and will be forgiven if sincerely repentant. It would be an outrageous God who consigns billions of people to hell simply because they were led astray by their leaders or never even heard of the current Manifestation. Second, as a former Scientologist, I have to ask why you insult the Quran, the bread on which Baha'u'llah was fed, by including it in the same thought as L. Ron Hubbard? I am offended.Surely, you can answer the question and cite your source without resorting to such childishly provocative insults? Kathryn "Dedicate the precious days of your lives to the betterment of the world". ~ Bahá’u’lláh "I don't know what your destiny will be, but one thing I do know; the only ones among you who will be really happy are those who have sought and found how to serve."~ Albert Schweitzer www.bahai.org On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:53, wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Iskandar, > > Muslims have to put away their Qurans, or at least put them on the shelf > with copies of L Ron Hubbard books. > __ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:allaboutjoye1...@gmail.com > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto: > leave-549193-2241165.3afeac45296046c4e2352da3d7e8d...@list.jccc.edu > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to > ly...@list.jccc.edu > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > > > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > > > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > > > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net > > > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > > > > __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-549195-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: God as Forgiver
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Iskandar, Muslims have to put away their Qurans, or at least put them on the shelf with copies of L Ron Hubbard books. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-549193-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: God as Forgiver
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Where does it say that Muslims are not forgiven? For what? On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:00 PM, wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Bahai teaches the Muslims are not forgiven, that's why Bahais abrogated > Quran. Bahai is completely independent of Islam and Quran. > __ > __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-549185-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: God as Forgiver
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Bahai teaches the Muslims are not forgiven, that's why Bahais abrogated Quran. Bahai is completely independent of Islam and Quran. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-549182-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
