Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
* Tim Cutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-02-07 00:07]: > As an aside to this, if anyone has (or knows where I can obtain) > proper rack mounting kits for the Cobalt RAQ2 system, I'd be most > grateful. I believe I do. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On 5 Feb 2008, at 6:25 am, Charles Plessy wrote: Last year, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-28 10:55]: mips and mipsel have more buildds (mayr and mayer) but one has problems with its fan and the other with its psu. I don't know what is being done about this as the RT ticket is not public (or at least wasn't last time I checked). Which one? There's no such ticket AFAIK. Feel free to submit them. (and I have access to the DSA private tickets) Ryan told me there's one. Maybe there isn't - I don't know. I just opened two tickets: https://rt.debian.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=320 https://rt.debian.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=321 A full-text search on mayr and mayer didn't lead to any relevant (open) ticket so I probably didn't miss any. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog Dear all, any news from this potential mips(el) buildd? The current buildd are not keeping up and this is causing trouble to all the teams who are concerned with the migration to testing of their updates. Sorry, this is partly my fault. I have two mipsel machines for Debian which I need to rack up and get installed, but work pressures have got the better of me lately. As an aside to this, if anyone has (or knows where I can obtain) proper rack mounting kits for the Cobalt RAQ2 system, I'd be most grateful. Tim -- The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research Limited, a charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a company registered in England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215 Euston Road, London, NW1 2BE.
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
Last year, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > * Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-28 10:55]: > > > > mips and mipsel have more buildds (mayr and mayer) but one has > > > > problems with its fan and the other with its psu. I don't know what > > > > is being done about this as the RT ticket is not public (or at least > > > > wasn't last time I checked). > > > Which one? There's no such ticket AFAIK. Feel free to submit them. > > > (and I have access to the DSA private tickets) > > > > Ryan told me there's one. Maybe there isn't - I don't know. > > I just opened two tickets: > https://rt.debian.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=320 > https://rt.debian.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=321 > > A full-text search on mayr and mayer didn't lead to any relevant (open) > ticket so I probably didn't miss any. > > Cheers, > -- > Raphaël Hertzog Dear all, any news from this potential mips(el) buildd? The current buildd are not keeping up and this is causing trouble to all the teams who are concerned with the migration to testing of their updates. Have a nice day, -- Charles Plessy Debian-Med packaging team Wakō, Saitama, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On 2007-11-30, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 12:23:34AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >> On 29/11/2007, Michael Banck wrote: >> > I believe "buildd redundancy" does not mean having 2+ active buildds, >> > but having at least one active buildd who can keep up, plus a possibly >> > inactive backup buildd who could quickly be made active in case the >> > primary buildd fails. >> >> I'd add ???having a responsive buildd maintainer???, uploading packages in a >> timely fashion. > > Awww, just when we were able to keep it constructive for a couple of > messages... This is constructive. I can only speak for the security buildd network, but redundancy in the buildd admins increases the responsiveness in which problems are fixed by a great deal and is highly important. Cheers, Moritz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 02:38:52AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > Awww, just when we were able to keep it constructive for a couple of > messages... Redefining "redundancy" is constructive? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 12:23:34AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > On 29/11/2007, Michael Banck wrote: > > I believe "buildd redundancy" does not mean having 2+ active buildds, > > but having at least one active buildd who can keep up, plus a possibly > > inactive backup buildd who could quickly be made active in case the > > primary buildd fails. > > I'd add ???having a responsive buildd maintainer???, uploading packages in a > timely fashion. Awww, just when we were able to keep it constructive for a couple of messages... Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On 29/11/2007, Michael Banck wrote: > I believe "buildd redundancy" does not mean having 2+ active buildds, > but having at least one active buildd who can keep up, plus a possibly > inactive backup buildd who could quickly be made active in case the > primary buildd fails. I'd add “having a responsive buildd maintainer”, uploading packages in a timely fashion. Cheers, -- Cyril Brulebois pgpwM2zbyroZ1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
* Tim Cutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-29 16:27]: > Er - I don't know, offhand. I'm not that familiar with either > architecture, aside from running a bunch of IRIX systems about 10 years > ago. These are two Cobalt boxes... It's mipsel. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On 29 Nov 2007, at 3:10 pm, Peter Palfrader wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Tim Cutts wrote: Anyway - thanks for doing that, I really appreciate it. As to the mips machines that Steve dropped off at Sanger the week before last, I should hopefully find the time to rack them up and install them on Friday, barring any firefighting I need to do here. That'd be great. Looking forward to that. Was it mips or mipsel? Er - I don't know, offhand. I'm not that familiar with either architecture, aside from running a bunch of IRIX systems about 10 years ago. These are two Cobalt boxes... Tim -- The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research Limited, a charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a company registered in England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215 Euston Road, London, NW1 2BE. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Tim Cutts wrote: > Anyway - thanks for doing that, I really appreciate it. As to the > mips machines that Steve dropped off at Sanger the week before last, I > should hopefully find the time to rack them up and install them on > Friday, barring any firefighting I need to do here. That'd be great. Looking forward to that. Was it mips or mipsel? Peter -- | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Peter Palfrader | : :' : The universal http://www.palfrader.org/ | `. `' Operating System | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 01:18:38PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > > I think you'd better look at db.debian.org/machines.cgi to have an idea > > of the current status... > > I can see the current status fine on jvw's buildd pages: those three arches > only have a single active buildd listed when they're supposed to have two. I believe "buildd redundancy" does not mean having 2+ active buildds, but having at least one active buildd who can keep up, plus a possibly inactive backup buildd who could quickly be made active in case the primary buildd fails. So just looking at jvw's buildd pages might not be enough, unless it displays inactive buildds as well. (mostly considering alpha here, as apparently mips/mipsel indeed do not have redundancy right now) Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On 29 Nov 2007, at 12:23 pm, Peter Palfrader wrote: [ snipped RT close message ] Glad to see that, although I don't think I received the message. Must be something wrong with the forwarding chain between there and me - almost certainly my fault. apologies! Anyway - thanks for doing that, I really appreciate it. As to the mips machines that Steve dropped off at Sanger the week before last, I should hopefully find the time to rack them up and install them on Friday, barring any firefighting I need to do here. Regards, Tim -- The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research Limited, a charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a company registered in England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215 Euston Road, London, NW1 2BE. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Tim Cutts wrote: > I knew Peter had been working on it, but I didn't know that the > machine was available for use, since I wasn't notified when he > finished. Hey, I'm only the local admin, what do I know... :-) | Subject: [rt.debian.org #59] New alpha porter machine ready for setup | From: "Peter Palfrader via RT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | In-Reply-To: | References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Precedence: bulk | X-RT-Loop-Prevention: rt.debian.org | RT-Ticket: rt.debian.org #59 | Managed-by: RT 3.6.1 (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) | RT-Originator: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit | X-RT-Original-Encoding: utf-8 | Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:21:03 -0700 | X-RT-Original-Encoding: utf-8 | | albeniz.debian.org should have been setup and be ready for use. Thanks | for helping the Debian project. -- | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Peter Palfrader | : :' : The universal http://www.palfrader.org/ | `. `' Operating System | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On Thursday 29 November 2007, Luk Claes wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:32:40AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > > http://release.debian.org/etch_arch_qualify.html lists that alpha, mips > > and mipsel a having buildd redundancy, but that does not seem to match > > reality as both only have a single buildd (alpha: goetz; mips: ball; > > mipsel: rem). > > Hmm, etch is already released. You might be right that it's not done for > lenny yet. Though that's mainly because most of the architecture pages > are incomplete after many requests to complete them... Don't understand what you're trying to say here. My point is that apparently we _had_ buildd redundancy at some point, but have lost it for some reason. To me that indicates a problem for the project, especially when it turns out that the remaining buildds are incapable of keeping up by themselves. > I think you'd better look at db.debian.org/machines.cgi to have an idea > of the current status... I can see the current status fine on jvw's buildd pages: those three arches only have a single active buildd listed when they're supposed to have two. Also, "restricted" does not really tell me what the exact purpose of a machine is. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On Thursday 29 November 2007, Luk Claes wrote: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 12:01:54PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > > On Thursday 29 November 2007, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > > James Andrewartha a écrit : > > > > Not a buildd, but [1] notes that there's an alpha porting machine > > > > waiting for more than a year to be set up by DSA. I don't know if > > > > there's an RT ticket, but there is a bug [2] about this, which was > > > > closed this week, although it looks like by accident. > > > > > > This machine has been setup, it is called albeniz.debian.org, that's > > > why the bug has been closed. > > > > Then it's not yet been activated by ftp-masters as it's not listed on > > [1]. Guess that will happen soon. > > Why would a porter machine be listed on buildd? Ah, my mistake. I totally missed that this was about a porter machine. So we do still need a backup/second buildd for alpha... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On 29 Nov 2007, at 10:49 am, Aurelien Jarno wrote: James Andrewartha a écrit : Not a buildd, but [1] notes that there's an alpha porting machine waiting for more than a year to be set up by DSA. I don't know if there's an RT ticket, but there is a bug [2] about this, which was closed this week, although it looks like by accident. This machine has been setup, it is called albeniz.debian.org, that's why the bug has been closed. I knew Peter had been working on it, but I didn't know that the machine was available for use, since I wasn't notified when he finished. Hey, I'm only the local admin, what do I know... :-) Anyway, I'm glad it's finally available for people to use. It's a reasonably meaty machine - AlphaServer ES45 4x 1.25GHz EV67, 8GB RAM. Enjoy. Tim -- The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research Limited, a charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a company registered in England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215 Euston Road, London, NW1 2BE.
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:32:40AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > http://release.debian.org/etch_arch_qualify.html lists that alpha, mips and > mipsel a having buildd redundancy, but that does not seem to match reality > as both only have a single buildd (alpha: goetz; mips: ball; mipsel: rem). Hmm, etch is already released. You might be right that it's not done for lenny yet. Though that's mainly because most of the architecture pages are incomplete after many requests to complete them... I think you'd better look at db.debian.org/machines.cgi to have an idea of the current status... Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
Not a buildd, but [1] notes that there's an alpha porting machine waiting for more than a year to be set up by DSA. I don't know if there's an RT ticket, but there is a bug [2] about this, which was closed this week, although it looks like by accident. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2007/11/msg2.html [2] http://bugs.debian.org/412070 -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 12:01:54PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > On Thursday 29 November 2007, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > James Andrewartha a écrit : > > > Not a buildd, but [1] notes that there's an alpha porting machine > > > waiting for more than a year to be set up by DSA. I don't know if > > > there's an RT ticket, but there is a bug [2] about this, which was > > > closed this week, although it looks like by accident. > > > > This machine has been setup, it is called albeniz.debian.org, that's why > > the bug has been closed. > > Then it's not yet been activated by ftp-masters as it's not listed on [1]. > Guess that will happen soon. Why would a porter machine be listed on buildd? Cheers Luk > Good news! > > [1]http://buildd.debian.org/~jeroen/status/architecture.php?suite=unstable&a=alpha
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On Thursday 29 November 2007, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > James Andrewartha a écrit : > > Not a buildd, but [1] notes that there's an alpha porting machine > > waiting for more than a year to be set up by DSA. I don't know if > > there's an RT ticket, but there is a bug [2] about this, which was > > closed this week, although it looks like by accident. > > This machine has been setup, it is called albeniz.debian.org, that's why > the bug has been closed. Then it's not yet been activated by ftp-masters as it's not listed on [1]. Guess that will happen soon. Good news! [1]http://buildd.debian.org/~jeroen/status/architecture.php?suite=unstable&a=alpha signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
James Andrewartha a écrit : > Not a buildd, but [1] notes that there's an alpha porting machine waiting > for more than a year to be set up by DSA. I don't know if there's an RT > ticket, but there is a bug [2] about this, which was closed this week, > although it looks like by accident. This machine has been setup, it is called albeniz.debian.org, that's why the bug has been closed. -- .''`. Aurelien Jarno | GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73 : :' : Debian developer | Electrical Engineer `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] `-people.debian.org/~aurel32 | www.aurel32.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-28 10:55]: > > > mips and mipsel have more buildds (mayr and mayer) but one has > > > problems with its fan and the other with its psu. I don't know what > > > is being done about this as the RT ticket is not public (or at least > > > wasn't last time I checked). > > Which one? There's no such ticket AFAIK. Feel free to submit them. > > (and I have access to the DSA private tickets) > > Ryan told me there's one. Maybe there isn't - I don't know. I just opened two tickets: https://rt.debian.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=320 https://rt.debian.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=321 A full-text search on mayr and mayer didn't lead to any relevant (open) ticket so I probably didn't miss any. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog Premier livre français sur Debian GNU/Linux : http://www.ouaza.com/livre/admin-debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
* Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-28 10:55]: > > mips and mipsel have more buildds (mayr and mayer) but one has > > problems with its fan and the other with its psu. I don't know what > > is being done about this as the RT ticket is not public (or at least > > wasn't last time I checked). > Which one? There's no such ticket AFAIK. Feel free to submit them. > (and I have access to the DSA private tickets) Ryan told me there's one. Maybe there isn't - I don't know. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-28 08:32]: > > Are there any known plans to add buildds for these arches and > > especially for mips and mipsel? If not, could we please make that a > > priority for the project? > > mips and mipsel have more buildds (mayr and mayer) but one has > problems with its fan and the other with its psu. I don't know what > is being done about this as the RT ticket is not public (or at least > wasn't last time I checked). Which one? There's no such ticket AFAIK. Feel free to submit them. (and I have access to the DSA private tickets) Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog Premier livre français sur Debian GNU/Linux : http://www.ouaza.com/livre/admin-debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
* Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-28 08:32]: > Are there any known plans to add buildds for these arches and > especially for mips and mipsel? If not, could we please make that a > priority for the project? mips and mipsel have more buildds (mayr and mayer) but one has problems with its fan and the other with its psu. I don't know what is being done about this as the RT ticket is not public (or at least wasn't last time I checked). -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel
http://release.debian.org/etch_arch_qualify.html lists that alpha, mips and mipsel a having buildd redundancy, but that does not seem to match reality as both only have a single buildd (alpha: goetz; mips: ball; mipsel: rem). Both mips and mipsel also currently seem to be having problems keeping up even though AFAIK there are no really special circumstances. This results in a fairly high number of packages that have not been built for 2 weeks or more. Alpha seems to be managing to keep up with only one buildd. Are there any known plans to add buildds for these arches and especially for mips and mipsel? If not, could we please make that a priority for the project? (i386 is also missing a backup buildd, but that has always been the case, so I'm ignoring that.) Cheers, FJP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
