how to stop console cursor blink?

[Dan Jacobson]

How to stop console cursor blink?  We're talking tty[1-6] here.
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Re: xine wants /dev/null - why?

[Vineet Kumar]

* umidori kamome ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020615 16:54]:
> Hey Yo Hoh!
> 
> Sound doesnt work with xine here (its an es1371, does 
> work under kde, xfce and progs like mpg321).
> In the "setup window", "audio" the default driver is
> "null" - not too cool! But even changing it to dsp or
> /dev/dsp (is the device wanted here or really a driver?)
> or es1371 doesnt have any effect at all.
> No sound and again "null" as soon as I change the tabs in
> the window (or restart the setup or the whole app).
> Whats going wrong here - is it my fault or something
> ugly?

Try 'xine -help'. It'll tell you the list of available audio drivers. It
should be something like:

null oss esd

Look for the line describing -A or --audio-driver to see what I mean.

You probably want to use oss.

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whats wrong with this grep?

[Tim locke]

grep "..\/..\-..\:..\:"  oos.txt | cut -d \> -f 1 |
cut -d \  -f 2 | cut -d \: -f 1 | sed s/\ //g | sort |
uniq -c | sort -nr > oos.log



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Re: Nasty X + Mozilla bug...

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sat, Jun 15, 2002, Gerhard Gaussling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Am Samstag, 15. Juni 2002 08:49 schrieb Karsten M. Self:
> 
> > What happens if you disable font sizing via a user CSS?  Like I
> > do  ;-)
> >
> > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Download/userContent.css
> 
> That may stops mozilla from crashing x by rendering huge fonts, but 
> I'm wondering if it breaks the page layout.

Define "breaking page layout".  My experience is that websites render
consistently and readably.  If they're predicated on text sizing to
specific dimensions, they're broken by design already.  I've only seen
one site that fails to render readably.  For the most part,
standardizing results is far preferable to seeing the crud webmonkeys
are churning out these days.

Let's repeat together:  "HTML is not a presentation language.  Flash is
crap to five nines."

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Re: whats wrong with this grep?

[Craig Dickson]

begin  Tim locke  quotation:

> grep "..\/..\-..\:..\:"  oos.txt | cut -d \> -f 1 |
> cut -d \  -f 2 | cut -d \: -f 1 | sed s/\ //g | sort |
> uniq -c | sort -nr > oos.log

How do you expect anyone to know what's wrong with it if you don't
tell us what you expect it to do?

The main comment I have about this thing is that it's nearly unreadable
because rather than properly quote things, you escape everything in
sight, including things that don't need to be escaped. The computer may
not care one way or the other, but humans attempting to read this are at
a disadvantage.

Here's something I think (without actually testing) is functionally
equivalent, but much easier to read:

grep '../..-..:..:'  oos.txt | cut -d '>' -f 1 |
 cut -d ' ' -f 2 | cut -d ':' -f 1 | tr -d ' ' | sort |
 uniq -c | sort -nr > oos.log

So, what will this do?

Grep oos.txt for lines containing any two characters followed by a
slash, followed by any two characters, followed by a dash, followed by
any two characters, followed by a colon, followed by any two characters,
followed by another colon; matching lines are piped to cut, which
outputs only the text prior to the first greater-than; the result is
then piped to another cut, which outputs only the text between the first
and second space characters; then another cut, which outputs only the
text prior to the first colon; then all space characters are removed.
The final result of all this is then sorted, uniqued (with counts
added), sorted again (reverse, by frequency), and written to oos.log.

Whether this is what you want is quite unclear, since you didn't bother
to tell us what you want, or how the script is failing. The utter
lameness of that fact accounts for the poor temper of this reply.

A general note on script debugging: If you aren't getting what you want
out of a script, especially a complex pipe like this one, try testing
the individual components to figure out what isn't working. Just do the
grep, first. Do you get the lines you expect? If so, add the first cut,
then the second, and so on, confirming at each stage that you are
getting what you want.

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Re: problems with running remote X programs

[Karsten M. Self]

on Fri, Jun 14, 2002, Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 01:21:59PM +0100, Matthew Yee-King wrote:
> > I'm running gdm, windowmaker, woody and xfree 4.2. i need to run
> > software on a remote mahcine that outputs to my local X server. On the
> > remote machine, i export DISPLAY="mylocalIP:0" then on my local
> > machine, i xhost  . but it doesn't work - on the
> > remote machine i get the error  
> > 
> > Error: Can't open display: :0
> > 
> > is the xserver really locked down by default on debian or something?
> 
> Yes. Remove '-nolisten tcp' from whatever starts your X server if you

Don't do that.  It's there for a reason.  X11 is an insecure,
unauthenticated, protocol.  Use other means (ssh with X11 forwarding) to
tunnel it remotely if necessary.  If you're gaming, run the game on your
local box.

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Re: problems with running remote X programs

[Karsten M. Self]

on Fri, Jun 14, 2002, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

[Regarding X11 tunnelled over ssh]

> Over a local, switched fast ethernet connection, what kind of
> performance drain will I see tunneling through ssh?  Both boxen are
> GHz+.

Depends on what you're doing.

For text-based apps, little noticeable delay.

For heavy graphics apps, but not real-time response (e.g.:  Mozilla,
Abiword, other office applications), you'll note some lag.

Gaming and flash are going to be noteably impacted, probably unsuitably
so.

You can mitigate this by using blowfish (a fast cipher) and *disabling*
compression, which puts more overhead on the connection than it relieves
in network traffic, for a fast network.

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Re: problems with running remote X programs

[Karsten M. Self]

on Fri, Jun 14, 2002, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 11:11, Ron Johnson wrote:

<...>

> > Any ideas?  Colin Watson says to remove '-nolisten tcp' from
> > the script that starts the local X.  I'm going to try that now.
> 
> Progress!!  After removing '-nolisten tcp' from /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc

Restore it.  You were given bad advice whose implications you don't
understand.


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Re: local mirror -- again

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sat, Jun 15, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've got three machines running here, and as I'm always toying around on two 
> of them (meaning frequent re-

Please set your mailer/editor linewrap to 68-75 characters.  I strongly
recommend 72 as a good default.

Thank you.


I'd recommend installing a transparent caching squid proxy.  Less work.
Same results.

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Re: sair and linux certification

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya

best ( linux/unix ) education 
( get a bunch of machines together... no important data on it )
- hit the reset switch 
- hit the power switch ... while its writing data to files
- mix-n-match parts from various PCs and get it both working again
- mount other remote machines to yours and reboot your box.. watch them 
  scratch their heads
- start deleting files/directories and see what breaks...

- lots of fun lab 


- the local linux user groups and installfest would be a good 
  informal starting point for "hands on" linux things

have fun
alvin

-- hands on experiences is more important than most  "certification" ??

other certification places
http://www.linuxcertification.com  ( aka sair )
http://www.lpi.org/
http://www.sagecert.org ( sage/usenix )
http://www.redhat.com/training/  ( the other enemy and costs toomuch )
http://www-3.ibm.com/services/learning/spotlight/linux/
...

- dont forget about the local university extensions programs too

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Deedra Waters wrote:

> I know that this is slightly off topic so please if you do respond please
> respond to me privately...
> 
> I'm looking into the possibility of going into working with linux, and
> want totake related courses to help build my background because I'm not
> experienced enough. I have looked specificly into the sair certification
> at  (http://www.linuxcertification.com) this gives me a great deal of
> info, but does not give me the answers I'm looking for which mainly are is
> there a place in the tampabay Florida area that offers this course. It
> does list one area, but the email address is incorrect.
> 
> If anyone can help me with this, or give me thoughts and or feedback I'd
> appreciate it.
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Re: xine wants /dev/null - why?

[nate]

> Hey Yo Hoh!
>
> Sound doesnt work with xine here (its an es1371, does
> work under kde, xfce and progs like mpg321).
> In the "setup window", "audio" the default driver is
> "null" - not too cool! But even changing it to dsp or
> /dev/dsp (is the device wanted here or really a driver?)
> or es1371 doesnt have any effect at all.
> No sound and again "null" as soon as I change the tabs in
> the window (or restart the setup or the whole app).
> Whats going wrong here - is it my fault or something
> ugly?


what audio drivers are you using ? I have found for some
reason on my systems at least xine does not work with alsa,
i can never get it to work with alsa(even with the alsa oss
drivers), but once i switch to OSS drivers xine immediately
works ...i only use alsa on my laptops, my desktops all have
es1371 and use OSS, so i don't use alsa there.

null is just a way for xine to not use audio, it's not trying
to use /dev/null, one thing you can try is use the command line
switches. run xine -help to see what they are, you can try to force
xine to use a particular driver, it will usually crash if for
some reason it cannot(happens to me when i try to force it to use
alsa when my drivers are alsa, but if i switch drivers to oss and
tell it to use OSS, bang, it works)

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Hosed my X11 install

[Bill Moseley]

So I decided to install debian on a laptop today.  I used a woody idepci
boot disk I had from an install on a desktop not too long ago.  Then I
proceeded to do a network install.  

The idepci disk is nice, I believe, as it includes the EEpro LAN driver so
I can quickly move onto a network install without needing a bunch of device
disks.  

Had a similar issue that I had before, where it tries to download the base
system from the US debian site and just sits there.  Sure wish there was
some type of progress read-out.  ^C and try different download sites
finally worked.

Next problem is that the sources.list file that was written during the
install was only for stable, not for woody, even though I used the woody
idepci disk.  So any tasksel selections failed.

I updated sources.list to woody then apt-get update / apt-get dist-upgrade
and ran tasksel to install X11.  That installed X11 version 3.  In debconf
I said that *I* would maintain my X config file.  I think that was a mistake.

I wanted X11 4.1 so I was a bit confused.  My other woody machine has 4.1
yet I'm not sure how I installed it.

I then updated sources.list to sid and upgraded.  Then apt-get install
xserver-xfree86, which seems like that installed 4.1.

The problem is not I don't have an XF86Config-4 file.

So, the question is: how do I remove all traces of X11, and then start
clean and install X11 4.1?

I believe this all should be easier than I'm making it...

I'd just like the path of least resistance to a 2.4 kernel, and X11 4.1.
And I'd also really like to get my SMC 802.11b card working so I can start
using the laptop for things other than trying to install the OS.

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Re: whats wrong with this grep?

[Tim locke]

Craig, Sorry about not being clear on my question.
It's because I'm having a hard time analysing large
amount of traffic logs and the fact that I'm not an
expert at scripting and what I was looking for was a
quick way to get the number of src ips.


How do you expect anyone to know what's wrong with it
if you don't
tell us what you expect it to do?

The main comment I have about this thing is that it's
nearly unreadable
because rather than properly quote things, you escape
everything in
sight, including things that don't need to be escaped.
The computer may
not care one way or the other, but humans attempting
to read this are at
a disadvantage.

Here's something I think (without actually testing) is
functionally
equivalent, but much easier to read:

grep '../..-..:..:'  oos.txt | cut -d '>' -f 1 |
 cut -d ' ' -f 2 | cut -d ':' -f 1 | tr -d ' ' | sort
|
 uniq -c | sort -nr > oos.log

So, what will this do?

Grep oos.txt for lines containing any two characters
followed by a
slash, followed by any two characters, followed by a
dash, followed by
any two characters, followed by a colon, followed by
any two characters,
followed by another colon; matching lines are piped to
cut, which
outputs only the text prior to the first greater-than;
the result is
then piped to another cut, which outputs only the text
between the first
and second space characters; then another cut, which
outputs only the
text prior to the first colon; then all space
characters are removed.
The final result of all this is then sorted, uniqued
(with counts
added), sorted again (reverse, by frequency), and
written to oos.log.

Whether this is what you want is quite unclear, since
you didn't bother
to tell us what you want, or how the script is
failing. The utter
lameness of that fact accounts for the poor temper of
this reply.

A general note on script debugging: If you aren't
getting what you want
out of a script, especially a complex pipe like this
one, try testing
the individual components to figure out what isn't
working. Just do the
grep, first. Do you get the lines you expect? If so,
add the first cut,
then the second, and so on, confirming at each stage
that you are
getting what you want.


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Re: DMA settings

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Re: Hosed my X11 install

[Peter Whysall]

On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 08:24, Bill Moseley wrote:
> I then updated sources.list to sid and upgraded.  Then apt-get install
> xserver-xfree86, which seems like that installed 4.1.
> 
> The problem is not I don't have an XF86Config-4 file.
> 
> So, the question is: how do I remove all traces of X11, and then start
> clean and install X11 4.1?

apt-get install x-window-system. This is a metapackage which depends on
all the bits you need for a functional X setup. 

Then you probably want to grab a windowmanager and the "menu" package.

> I believe this all should be easier than I'm making it...
> 
> I'd just like the path of least resistance to a 2.4 kernel, and X11 4.1.
> And I'd also really like to get my SMC 802.11b card working so I can start
> using the laptop for things other than trying to install the OS.

Peter's First Rule Of Computing: Break 1 thing at a time.

Regards

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Re: local mirror -- again

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 11:29:25PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've got three machines running here, and as I'm always toying around
> on two of them (meaning frequent re- installs) I finally wanted to
> create a local mirror. It's about time.  So I tried apt-move.

Unless you are rying to make your own CD image files, I recomment to use
"squid" as proxy.  (Not in the sense of usual transparent proxy! I may
have slightly different view on this.)

Potential difference from Karsten's posting is:

1) I only use "squid" only for APT.
2) It is not transparent proxy but just for APT.
3) /etc/apt/apt.conf contain
 Acquire::http::Proxy "http://gateway:3128/";;
 where squid is running on "gareway" machine and listening at port 3128

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How to use rootstrap? (user-mode linux filesystem image builder)

[Karsten M. Self]

Keywords:  UML, user mode linux, rootstrap.

Looking for anyone out there (Oki, I know you're one of 'em) who's
messing with UML.

I've got user-mode-linux installed, and have managed to boot it with the
base Debian Potato tarball (see
http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UserModeLinux).  What I
can't for the life of me figure out is how to build a filesystem using
rootstrap.  Anyone out there who'se dont that and might be able to
augment the currently available docs?

It's also not clear, BTW, what's necessary to actually run UML.  The
existing UML docs don't particularly suggest that there are filesystem
images available, what's needed to build one, or where to download
existing ones if that's the route you want to go.

Other odds'n'ends.  What's the relationship between host and guest
bogomips in UML?  I'm seeing 1192.75 bogomips real, about 512 under UML.
Is this typical?

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Re: increase mysql max connections over 1024

[Osamu Aoki]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 12:58:31PM +0800, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
> I'd like to increase the number of max connections above 1024 in Linux.
> I think I have to increase PTHREAD_THREADS_MAX  in 
> 
> /usr/include/bits/local_lim.h
> 
> /* The number of threads per process.  */
> #define _POSIX_THREAD_THREADS_MAX   64
> /* This is the value this implementation supports.  */
> #define PTHREAD_THREADS_MAX 1024
> 
> 
> My question is, what should I do after modify this file. Should I
> rebuild mysql-server .deb package again? Or I just set mysql max
> connections and restart mysql server?

I am not expert ...

If what you say is true, I can tell you that ANY program which is
involved with mysql and which used local_lim.h needs to be recompiled.
What I do not know is whether this involves glibc (libc6) or not.

Anyway, at root

# apt-get source mysql-server
# cd mysql-server*

Check source for what happens "debian/rules binary".

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Re: local mirror -- again

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Jun 16, 2002, Osamu Aoki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 11:29:25PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I've got three machines running here, and as I'm always toying around
> > on two of them (meaning frequent re- installs) I finally wanted to
> > create a local mirror. It's about time.  So I tried apt-move.
> 
> Unless you are rying to make your own CD image files, I recomment to use
> "squid" as proxy.  (Not in the sense of usual transparent proxy! I may
> have slightly different view on this.)
> 
> Potential difference from Karsten's posting is:
> 
> 1) I only use "squid" only for APT.
> 2) It is not transparent proxy but just for APT.
> 3) /etc/apt/apt.conf contain
>  Acquire::http::Proxy "http://gateway:3128/";;
>  where squid is running on "gareway" machine and listening at port 3128

Interesting, hadn't considered working it that way.  Might adopt that
elsewhere

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Re: how to stop console cursor blink?

[Shaul Karl]

> How to stop console cursor blink?  We're talking tty[1-6] here.
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> 


setterm -blink off

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Re: problems with running remote X programs

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 11:44:33PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Fri, Jun 14, 2002, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 11:11, Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
> <...>
> 
> > > Any ideas?  Colin Watson says to remove '-nolisten tcp' from
> > > the script that starts the local X.  I'm going to try that now.
> > 
> > Progress!!  After removing '-nolisten tcp' from /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
> 
> Restore it.  You were given bad advice whose implications you don't
> understand.

I do understand benefit of SSH but insecure xhost with '-nolisten tcp'
has advantage if you are behind firewall with slow machines.  So do not
be so harsh like "You were given bad advice" :)  Colin Watson has been
good to me like Karsten M. Self was.

All the discussion about how to set system is really environment
dependent.


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 "Debian reference" Project at: http://qref.sf.net

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Re: Strange boot up problem.

[Shaul Karl]

Not sure if this is appropriate for your case but have you looked at 
the the disk option of lilo.conf (5)?


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> I have a SuperMicro P6DBU motherboard with built in SCSI.  All
> the drives are SCSI on the system.  I just recently bought a 80G
> IDE drive to use for storage.
> 
> The problem is that after I installed the drive the system booted
> up fine.  I have the bootup in the bios to start with Floppy
> then SCSI drives.  It worked fine.
> 
> I was adding an append for the /dev/hda in lilo and ran lilo.
> When I did it gave me an warning that the drive /dev/sda was
> not the first drive in the system.  After rebooting the bios
> said it was booting from SCSI as normal but I got the constant
> 01 01 01 01 thing.
> 
> I've tried various things like returning lilo to it's original
> configuration and the bios was not modified from when It used
> to boot fine.  I'm thinking it's a lilo confusion problem.
> 
> The way I got around this was to install lilo on /dev/hda with
> "other=3D/dev/sda" in it (the only thing in lilo.conf.hda).  And
> keeping lilo on /dev/sda to boot the system.  It works fine
> like that.  As long as I set the bios to boot from IDE primary master
> instead of from SCSI.  The problem with that setup is I can't
> boot from CDrom unless I change the bios back to booting from SCSI.
> 
> I'm just wanting to know if there are any lilo tricks to get it to
> see /dev/sda as the first drive.  Or if anyone has experience with
> the SuperMicro P6DBU Board that knows of this problem.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: problems with running remote X programs

[Colin Watson]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 11:40:21PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Fri, Jun 14, 2002, Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Yes. Remove '-nolisten tcp' from whatever starts your X server if you
   ^^
["want to do this" snipped, but let's consider that underlined as well]

> Don't do that.  It's there for a reason.  X11 is an insecure,
> unauthenticated, protocol.  Use other means (ssh with X11 forwarding) to
> tunnel it remotely if necessary.

Quite - but I have found environments where using plain remote X is
useful. For instance, at work we have an internal network, and nobody
there is going to attempt to hijack my X session. ssh is not installed
on all the bizarre Unix systems that we have lying around, and I have
much better things to do than spend a few days compiling it everywhere
when it doesn't contribute a jot to my job description and really isn't
necessary. Occasionally I need to run an X application remotely, and
disabling '-nolisten tcp' is quite safe in this context and is by far
the simplest solution.

It is appropriate to tell people that a secure alternative exists and
should be used wherever possible; it is also appropriate to remember
that, as long as you know what you're doing, the secure alternative is
not always what you want. I would venture to suggest that internal
networks where all other hosts are trusted are common enough
environments for Debian systems that I don't think I have to suppress
this particular piece of knowledge. Naturally, if your system is
connected directly to the wider Internet then you need to take that into
account in everything you do and use secure protocols like ssh in
preference.

I apologize for not spelling this out in detail.

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no glyph loaded + no applets in Panel

[Jerome Lacoste]

I had a hang yesterday that forced me to hard reset during an apt-get
upgrade. I ended up trashing part of my system, which I recovered mostly
by reinstalling several packages.


I now have the following problems:
- nautlius doesn't display any fonts on the desktop, nor in its panels
(news, ...). I see the following error message in .gnome-errors: 
no glyph loaded for character ...

- all my panels havge disappeared from my two gnome bards (the top one
and the bottom one). If I look into ~/.gnome/panel.d/default, I can see
that it still seems to contain my settings:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ls -l .gnome/panel.d/default/
total 56
-rw-r--r--1 jerome   jerome334 Jun 16 10:44 Applet_10_Extern
-rw-r--r--1 jerome   jerome707 Jun 16 00:45 Applet_14_Extern
-rw-r--r--1 jerome   jerome334 Jun 16 00:45 Applet_27_Extern
-rw-r--r--1 jerome   jerome334 Jun 13 17:25 Applet_28_Extern
-rw-r--r--1 jerome   jerome334 Jun  7 05:25 Applet_32_Extern
-rw-r--r--1 jerome   jerome271 Jun 16 00:45 Applet_4_Extern
-rw-r--r--1 jerome   jerome450 Jun 16 10:44 Applet_5_Extern
-rw-r--r--1 jerome   jerome100 Jun 16 10:44 Applet_6_Extern
-rw-r--r--1 jerome   jerome707 Jun 16 10:44 Applet_8_Extern
-rw-r--r--1 jerome   jerome233 Jun 16 10:44 Applet_9_Extern
-rw-r--r--1 jerome   jerome   1406 Jun 16 10:44 Applet_Config
-rw-r--r--1 jerome   jerome614 Jun 16 10:44
Applet_Position_Memory
drwxr-sr-x2 jerome   jerome   4096 Jun 16 10:44 launchers
-rw-r--r--1 jerome   jerome688 Jun 16 10:44 panel

But I don't know why this information should be used to rebuild my
panels, and if it should. why it isn't done.

Any idea on how I can solve this problems ?

Cheers,

Jerome


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KDevelop starting problems

[Christian Schoenebeck]

Hi!

I'm using KDevelop for the 1st time and I have some small starting problems. 
I just tried to compile some hello-world-app but got this error:

checking for KDE... configure: error: 
in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will 
fail.
So, check this please and use another prefix!

Ok, I noticed that 'KDE 2.x-Directory' (includes/libraries) in the KDevelop 
settings has not been set yet, so I tried some directories (e.g. 
/usr/include/kde, usr/lib/kde2) but I always get the error message that the 
chosen directory would not be the kde root directory.

I read the docs but they're all mentioning the /opt/kde2 directory which 
isn't existent on a Debian system.

So, what Directory should be set for the 'KDE 2.x-Directory'? Do I have to 
create a symlink /opt/kde2 -> /somewhere?

Thanks,

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why nmap shows lots of filtered ports?

[matt yee-king]

Hello

I've testing the vulnerability of my box on a basic ports level by
scanning it with nmap. 

when i scan from a remote machine, i get this:

(The 1508 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port   State   Service
1/tcp  filteredtcpmux  
7/tcp  filteredecho
9/tcp  filtereddiscard 
11/tcp filteredsystat  
13/tcp filtereddaytime 
15/tcp filterednetstat 
19/tcp filteredchargen 
22/tcp openssh 
25/tcp filteredsmtp
37/tcp opentime
53/tcp filtereddomain  
80/tcp openhttp
87/tcp filteredpriv-term-l 
98/tcp filteredlinuxconf   
111/tcpfilteredsunrpc  
113/tcpopenauth
137/tcpfilterednetbios-ns  
138/tcpfilterednetbios-dgm 
139/tcpfilterednetbios-ssn 
445/tcpfilteredmicrosoft-ds
514/tcpfilteredshell   
515/tcpfilteredprinter 
524/tcpfilteredncp 
540/tcpfiltereduucp
587/tcpfilteredsubmission  
1024/tcp   openkdm 


when i scan from the local machine, i get this:

(The 1546 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port   State   Service
9/tcp  opendiscard 
13/tcp opendaytime 
22/tcp openssh 
25/tcp opensmtp
37/tcp opentime
111/tcpopensunrpc  
113/tcpopenauth
1024/tcp   openkdm  


does this mean theres some sort of firewall in place protecting my box?
just that the network admin people say there isn't

and whats all that windows netbios stuff?? and whats kdm? i'm not
running kde...

and am i mad sending all this data to this list - ?

cheers

matthew


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cyrus21 with woody

[Torsten Curdt]

Hi, there...

I've just set up a new woody system and now need cyrus imap >= 1.6.24. 
(existing mails are from 1.6.24)

I even thought about going for the 2.1 branch. But I cannot find any packages 
> 1.5.19 for woody. I found the cyrus21 package in unstable but am a little 
scared mixing packages from different distributions... so...

can I use the cyrus21 package from unstable with woody??
is there any (maybe unofficial package) 1.6.24 package I might be able to use 
with woody?

any help appreciated...
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Re: cyrus21 with woody

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Torsten Curdt wrote:
> can I use the cyrus21 package from unstable with woody??

Yes, AFAIK. You may need to download it in source form and build it in your
woody machine, but I don't think that will be required right now.

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Re: Hosed my X11 install

[Seneca]

On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 12:24:40AM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote:
> So I decided to install debian on a laptop today.  I used a woody idepci
> boot disk I had from an install on a desktop not too long ago.  Then I
> proceeded to do a network install.  
[...]
> Next problem is that the sources.list file that was written during the
> install was only for stable, not for woody, even though I used the woody
> idepci disk.  So any tasksel selections failed.

Makes some sense, when woody seems like it will be stable soon.

> I updated sources.list to woody then apt-get update / apt-get dist-upgrade
> and ran tasksel to install X11.  That installed X11 version 3.  In debconf
> I said that *I* would maintain my X config file.  I think that was a mistake.

Not necessarily, I have a laptop and the only way it will work with X is
if I manually maintain my X config file.

> I wanted X11 4.1 so I was a bit confused.  My other woody machine has 4.1
> yet I'm not sure how I installed it.
> 
> I then updated sources.list to sid and upgraded.  Then apt-get install
> xserver-xfree86, which seems like that installed 4.1.
>
> The problem is not I don't have an XF86Config-4 file.

If you want debconf, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, otherwise run
xf86cfg, or xf86config.

> So, the question is: how do I remove all traces of X11, and then start
> clean and install X11 4.1?

I don't think you would need to remove X, but if you do, you can start
purging the packages in section x11 that have xfree86 listed as the
source package (easy way to see it is with aptitude, although it can be
done without it). To reinstall, you can apt-get install
x-window-system-core and then install your favourite window manager and
xterm.

> I'd just like the path of least resistance to a 2.4 kernel, and X11 4.1.
> And I'd also really like to get my SMC 802.11b card working so I can start
> using the laptop for things other than trying to install the OS.

Try waiting until X is working, then:

apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.

Then you can try inserting the card to see if it is recognised. If it is
not, you can try a different kernel-image, or you can make your own.

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Lexmark Printing

[Tinus Kotzé]

Can anyone help me with the Lexmark ExecJet IIc 4076 Colorprinter. I
have searched the net and could not find a solution for my problem
getting this printer to work. At lexmark's page everything goes well
until I have to state a operating system where the choices are only
Redhat, SuSe... but not Debian and no source to compile the drivers with
for Debian. I have found that it supposedly works in B&W ok with the HP
DeskJet 500.

Thankyou in advance
Tinuns




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Re: how to stop console cursor blink?

[Helgi Örn]

On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 10:40, Shaul Karl wrote:
> > How to stop console cursor blink?  We're talking tty[1-6] here.
> > -- 
> > http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780
> > 
> 
> 
> setterm -blink off
> 
> ?
Permanently or just for the session? What script to put it in if you
wan't to stop it permanently?

I'd also like to know how to stop the cursor from blinking in Emacs21?

Cheers,
Helgi Örn

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true type fonts won't work...

[Ronald Verlaan]

Hi all,

I am trying to make anti-aliasing work for the true type fonts I
downloaded from microsoft.

I am using:
debian woody
kernel 2.4.18
XFree86 4.1 packages of debian woody
4.2 version of X binary (stolen from SuSE 8.0 distribution)
xfs as well as xfstt
kde 3.01 (compiled myself)

I put the truetype fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype and run the commands
to make the fonts.scale and fonts.dir files. Also I synced xfstt.

As fontpaths in my XF86config-4 I only configured the xfs and xfstt font
servers. This works as I do see all the fonts (including the TT
fonts) listed with xlsfonts.

Still I can clearly see my fonts in kde (choosen the andale mono true type
font in kde control panel) are not anti-aliased :( I did select the
anti-aliasing radio-button in kde control panel and I did set QT_XFT to
"1".

What can I possibly do wrong or forget? Should I had done something
special while compiling kde3.01 or qt ?? (I did not had yet the
fontservers running while compiling kde).

Any hints?

Best regards,

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Re: how to stop console cursor blink?

[Helgi Örn]

On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 13:06, Helgi Örn wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 10:40, Shaul Karl wrote:
> > > How to stop console cursor blink?  We're talking tty[1-6] here.
> > > -- 
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> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > setterm -blink off
> > 
> > ?
This doesn't stop the cursor from blinking here.

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DMA errors on hard drive, but why?

[James Green]

Hi all,

I've got two Maxtor IDE hard drives. They have been working fine, but since I 
moved them into drive caddies I've been getting the following messages in 
dmesg output for the second drive:

cyberstorm:~# dmesg | grep hdb
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xdc00-0xdc07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
hdb: MAXTOR 6L080J4, ATA DISK drive
hdb: 156355584 sectors (80054 MB) w/1819KiB Cache, CHS=9732/255/63
 hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3 hdb4 < hdb5 >
hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdb: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
[ loops ]

At this end of this loop DMA for both drives is deactivated. I can reactivate 
it, but as soon as hdb gets some heavy activity the same errors occur.

So I'm wondering what could be the cause. I've tried two different caddies 
(both chassis and holder) so it doesn't look like a connection problem unless 
they both suffer, the drives were both fine outside of the caddies, and I've 
double checked the IDE cable is firmed in both connectors.

What should I do to diagnose this fault? Many thanks.

James Green


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PPP connection dropping after a few minutes

[marshal]

Hi all,

This may be slightly off-topic, but I think this may be two of the
better forums to help me solve this problem.

I'm connecting through FLETS ISDN under KDDI DION here in Japan.  If
this makes no sense, don't worry about it too much.  I don't think it
may make a difference, but for the Japanese user, they may be able to
help.

Recently (today), my connection has been dropping ever few minutes.
My connection drops regularly every 10 hours, as I think they put a 10
hour time cap to connections.  Every so often, it randomly drops,
usually due to my USB hub dying or something.

But today, it's been dropping every few minutes or so.  Nothing
regular, except this in the /var/log/syslog:

Jun 16 21:02:12 aldur pppd[1493]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x2 magic=0xb04f2ee6]
Jun 16 21:02:12 aldur pppd[1493]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x2 magic=0x3e88e78c]
Jun 16 21:02:42 aldur pppd[1493]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x3 magic=0xb04f2ee6]
Jun 16 21:03:12 aldur pppd[1493]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x4 magic=0xb04f2ee6]
Jun 16 21:03:42 aldur pppd[1493]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x5 magic=0xb04f2ee6]
Jun 16 21:04:12 aldur pppd[1493]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x6 magic=0xb04f2ee6]
Jun 16 21:04:42 aldur pppd[1493]: No response to 4 echo-requests
Jun 16 21:04:42 aldur pppd[1493]: Serial link appears to be disconnected.
Jun 16 21:04:42 aldur pppd[1493]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-down started (pid 1519)
Jun 16 21:04:42 aldur pppd[1493]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 "Peer not responding"
]
Jun 16 21:04:42 aldur pppd[1493]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-down finished (pid 1519), s
tatus = 0x0
Jun 16 21:04:45 aldur pppd[1493]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Jun 16 21:04:45 aldur pppd[1493]: Modem hangup
Jun 16 21:04:45 aldur pppd[1493]: Connection terminated.
Jun 16 21:04:45 aldur pppd[1493]: Connect time 3.6 minutes.
Jun 16 21:04:45 aldur pppd[1493]: Sent 55170 bytes, received 1301666 bytes.
Jun 16 21:04:45 aldur /etc/hotplug/net.agent: invoke ifdown ppp0
Jun 16 21:04:46 aldur pppd[1493]: Exit.

It's that "No response to 4 echo-requests" that gets me.

There was something similar to this that happened under MacOS 9 (I'm
running on a PowerBook.)  The Remote Access under MacOS 9 won't hold a
connection.  It drops after a few minutes.  So I had to use FreePPP.
Anyone knows what's the difference.

I'm going to check FreePPP under MacOS 9 and see if the problem still
exists there, but I though I'd get this off for any ideas on what may
be the cause.

Thanks for the help.

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Re: so how do the pros read all those .gz docs, zless?

[Christian Jaeger]

At 14:24 Uhr +0200 14.06.2002, Ulf Rompe wrote:

Chris Gushue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


 I wish more things supported transparently viewing gzipped files :)


I remember there once was a library which overloaded the original libc
functions for opening files. You had to preload it by setting the
variable LD_PRELOAD to this lib (like you do with libtrash). Once you
had done that, all and every program was able to read compressed files
transparently!

OK, after searching with Google I found out that this this is in
Debian. Of course, yeah, how could I even THINK of something NOT being
part of Debian - besides XFree 4.2. :-)

zlibc - Uncompressing C Library


There's also AVFS, which can do more than just unpack gz (i.e. RPM and so on):
http://www.inf.bme.hu/~mszeredi/avfs/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/avf/
http://a5.68k.org/~frederik/avfs/

Christian Jaeger (using it successfully in our content 
management system)

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1024x768 resolution on Extended SVGA monitor

[Ian D. Stewart]

Howdy Folks and Happy Father's Day to all you dads out there,

My wife got me Loki's port of Railroad Tycoon II for father's day.  The 
game looks pretty cool, but needs to run at 1024x768 resolution.


My problem is that I have a generic Magnavox SuperVGA monitor, and of 
course, the good folks haven't bothered to provide the specific 
HSYNC/Vert Refresh settings for the various resolutions.  It's been 
running at 800x600 for awhile now, but I get the following errors when 
it tries to set default mode to "1024x768":


	(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode 
clock/interlace/doublescan)
	(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of 
range)
	(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of 
range)
	(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of 
range)
	(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of 
range)


I am using an hsync range of 31.5-35.0 w/ a VisionTek GeForce 2 video 
card (nVidia GeForce 2 400MX chipset).


Does anyone know what the interlace/doublescan/hsync values should be, 
or know of a resource where I might possibly research this?



Thanx,
Ian 



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Re: 1024x768 resolution on Extended SVGA monitor

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote:

> Does anyone know what the interlace/doublescan/hsync values should be, 
> or know of a resource where I might possibly research this?

I think that xvidtune will tell you hsync and vsync.

Patrick

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Re: libfreetype6 or pango broken

[Akira TAGOH]

> On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 11:29:06 +0800,
> "AF" == Anthony Fok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

AF> I wonder if the error is related to the following note in the
AF> FreeType 2.1.1: CHANGES file

AF> - The cache sub-system has been optimized in important ways.  Cache hits
AF>   are now significantly faster.  For example, using the CMap cache is
AF>   about twice faster than calling FT_Get_Char_Index on most platforms. 
AF>   Similarly, using an SBit cache is about five times faster than loading
AF>   the bitmaps from a bitmap file, and 300 to 500 times faster than
AF>   generating them from a scalable format.

AF>   Note that you should recompile your sources if you designed a custom
AF>   cache class for the FT2 Cache subsystem, since the changes performed
AF>   are source, but not binary, compatible.

I'm not sure this is related, but it seems that the ABI is
different between 2.0.9 and 2.1.1 at least. so I thought the
soname should be changed.

AF> Anyhow, should I change the version dependency from "libfreetype6 (>=
AF> 2.0.9)" to "libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.1) and rebuild libfreetype6 before you
AF> rebuild Pango?  (I think I had better go upload libfreetype6_2.1.1-2
AF> right away.)

Well, it seems that libfreetype6 2.1.1-1 has the shlibs like
"libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.0-1)". If 2.1.1 is compatible with
2.1.0, probably you don't need to do that.

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Re: whats wrong with this grep?

[Craig Dickson]

begin  Tim locke  quotation:

> Craig, Sorry about not being clear on my question.
> It's because I'm having a hard time analysing large
> amount of traffic logs and the fact that I'm not an
> expert at scripting and what I was looking for was a
> quick way to get the number of src ips.

Okay, but what does the input file (oos.txt) look like? I don't see how
your script would apply to an apache access log, so I'm guessing this
is some other program's log, but which one? If you still need help with
this, please post a line or two of text that you expect to match the
initial grep, and perhaps a line or two from the same file that should
_not_ match the grep, and we'll see if your script ought to work, or if
there might be a simpler way to do it.

> grep '../..-..:..:'  oos.txt | cut -d '>' -f 1 |
>  cut -d ' ' -f 2 | cut -d ':' -f 1 | tr -d ' ' | sort |
>  uniq -c | sort -nr > oos.log

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Re: how to stop console cursor blink?

[Carl Fink]

On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 01:21:42PM +0200, Helgi ?rn wrote:

> > On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 10:40, Shaul Karl wrote:

> > > setterm -blink off

> This doesn't stop the cursor from blinking here.

On my consoles it makes the PROMPT stop blinking, if you're insane enough to
turn on that "feature".
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permission for /dev/dsp

[umidori kamome]

Hey Yo Hoh!

Due to the list's help I can now enjoy my movies with
xine.
Thank you, but I had to change the rights of /dev/dsp
to allow an ordinary user to access it. Is this save or
not
- is there a better solution?
Well another possibility would, of course, be to start
xine
as root - I think this would be a lot worse, wouldnt it?!
(But I was just wondering - I read about it often enough
but
keep forgetting, since I hardly ever need it: how do I
change
the DISPLAY-setting, so an app started from a root-term
under
X will display the stuff on the user's desktop?)

Well, hope this is easy to answer - thank you in advance

cu
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Re: permission for /dev/dsp

[marshal]

Actually, you didn't really need to change the rights to /dev/dsp.
And you probably shouldn't.

The easiest way to give users access to /dev/dsp is to add them to the
audio group, and then log out and log back in.

So as root:

adduser your_username audio

The you have to log back in as your_username and your_username should
have access to /dev/dsp.

Good luck.

Marshal

> "umidori" == umidori kamome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

umidori> Hey Yo Hoh!  Due to the list's help I can now enjoy my
umidori> movies with xine.  Thank you, but I had to change the
umidori> rights of /dev/dsp to allow an ordinary user to access
umidori> it. Is this save or not - is there a better solution?
umidori> Well another possibility would, of course, be to start
umidori> xine as root - I think this would be a lot worse, wouldnt
umidori> it?!  (But I was just wondering - I read about it often
umidori> enough but keep forgetting, since I hardly ever need it:
umidori> how do I change the DISPLAY-setting, so an app started
umidori> from a root-term under X will display the stuff on the
umidori> user's desktop?)

umidori> Well, hope this is easy to answer - thank you in advance

umidori> cu kamome

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Aptitude extended state file

[Kevin B. McCarty]

Can anyone tell me what file is Aptitude's extended state file?  I have a 
stock install of Debian/woody on a machine (installed from the vanilla 
boot-floppies, then internet).  Here is the problem:

1) I run aptitude as a normal user.
2) I press 'u' or 'g' or something else that requires root access, so I
   enter the root password.
3) Aptitude gives me an error message,
   "W: Can't open Aptitude extended state file"
   but when I click OK, everything seems to work properly.

I don't get this message if I su to root before running aptitude.  It 
isn't a major problem, but it _is_ very annoying.

FTR, I have tried doing an "apt-get --purge remove aptitude" followed by 
"apt-get install aptitude" ; I have also done "rm -rf ~/.aptitude" .  
Neither helped with the error message.  This is very strange because on 
other machines in the same cluster with the same Debian installation, the 
message never appears.

If it makes any difference, my home directory is NFS-mounted from a 
different (also Debian/woody i386) machine; could that be a problem?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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mouse not working

[Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri.]

Hi,

I am an ex windose user on RedHat at the moment. I installed woody as
triple boot on a p120 48m ram 8g hdd. I went with the defaults during the
install but I am unable to get gpm working. What I mean is that though ps
shows gpm running, the cursor does not work. It does work under RH. I
mostly work in the console.

I ran gpmconfig and tried all sorts of combinations with zilch results. It
is an old three button mouse of Micromate brand. I had the same problem
some months ago when I had installed an older version of debian and had
then removed debian after some time. This time I intend to stick with it
and get my mouse working.

what do I need to do to get my mouse working in the console ?

thanks,

Sharukh
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Re: diald problem

[Daniel Toffetti]

I had a somewhat similar problem some time ago, I don't remember the 
exact details now so I'm not sure I'm talking about the same issue.

When you upgrade your 2.2.x kernel to a 2.4.x one, you must upgrade 
many packages in order to keep them all working OK, this is documented 
in /Docs in the kernel source, CHANGES or README, IIRC. For example, 
pppd must be > 2.4.

Be sure to upgrade all that packages as documented and try again.

Good luck !!!

> I installed Debian 2.2r6, installed a ppp-dialup link. This works
> fine with 'pon provider' I automated it with diald so it responds
> when there is an ISP-request an brings the link down after som idle
> time. So far, so good.
>
> I recently installed a new kernel 2.4.18. This look OK, but diald is
> dead (process is running thou). It won't  respond to commands such as
> 'lynx', 'route' etc. Everything look the same as with 2.2r6. Same
> scripts are there, diald-process is running.
>
> Reinstalled diald while 2.4.18 is active, no change. ppp is working
> fine (pon provider establishes the link).  Running 2.2r6 (2.2.20
> kernel) everything works fine, including diald.
>
> What could be the problem here? Any clues?
>
> Anybody could help a little???
>
> Thanx in advance,
> Frank.

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Re: mouse not working

[Kent West]

Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:


Hi,

I am an ex windose user on RedHat at the moment. I installed woody as
triple boot on a p120 48m ram 8g hdd. I went with the defaults during the
install but I am unable to get gpm working. What I mean is that though ps
shows gpm running, the cursor does not work. It does work under RH. I
mostly work in the console.

I ran gpmconfig and tried all sorts of combinations with zilch results. It
is an old three button mouse of Micromate brand. I had the same problem
some months ago when I had installed an older version of debian and had
then removed debian after some time. This time I intend to stick with it
and get my mouse working.

what do I need to do to get my mouse working in the console ?

thanks,

Sharukh
 


I assume this is a serial mouse. Which "COM" port is it plugged into?
ttyS0 = Com1 in DOS/Windows
ttyS1 = Com2
ttyS2 = Com3
ttyS3 = Com4

I suggest you use either COM1 or COM2. Make sure that port is enabled in 
the computer's BIOS.


So, assuming your mouse is on COM1, you'd tell gpmconfig that your mouse 
is on /dev/ttyS0. For now, just use "bare" as the protocol. You should 
now have some mouse movement. If it's erratic, that means you probably 
need to try a different protocol.


Also, on the bottom of the mouse may be a switch to switch modes. You 
might want to take that into consideration.






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running X client as root in other accounts

[uzoma nwosu]

I really hope this is a simple question that I'm just missing the answer 
somewhere.  I'm running Debian Woody on an AMD K6-2 350 box.  Everything works 
fine for the most part.  It's just that when I try to run a xclient as root 
from a term in an another user account I get this error:

# xcdroast 
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server

Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0

Now, I've just ignored this issue because it's not task critical. However, I 
now wish to fix this.  So I humbly ask for suggestions.

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Re: how to stop console cursor blink?

[Robert_L]

On Sunday 16 June 04:40, Shaul Karl wrote:
> > How to stop console cursor blink?  We're talking tty[1-6] here.
> > --
> > http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780
>
> setterm -blink off
>
> ?

He could have a look at /usr/src/linux/Documentation/VGA-softcursor.txt
The example given gives a red non-blinking cursor:
echo -e '\033[?17;0;64c'

But you could change that by playing with the last parameter.

all the best,
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Re: permission for /dev/dsp

[umidori kamome]

Hey Yo Hoh, Marshal!

Thank You!
works fine!

cu kamome

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Re: true type fonts won't work...

[Hubert Chan]

> "Ronald" == Ronald Verlaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

Ronald> As fontpaths in my XF86config-4 I only configured the xfs and
Ronald> xfstt font servers. This works as I do see all the fonts
Ronald> (including the TT fonts) listed with xlsfonts.

Edit /etc/X11/XftConfig.  Add an appropriate dir line.

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Re: Aptitude extended state file

[Joey Hess]

Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
> Can anyone tell me what file is Aptitude's extended state file?

It is /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates

> 1) I run aptitude as a normal user.
> 2) I press 'u' or 'g' or something else that requires root access, so I
>enter the root password.
> 3) Aptitude gives me an error message,
>"W: Can't open Aptitude extended state file"
>but when I click OK, everything seems to work properly.

That's weird.

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debconf and linuxconf

[Klaus Imgrund]

Happy fathers day to all,

I have a little problem with linuxconf and debconf - can't change any
settings there.
When I have to type something like abcd it works fine but when I have to
mark or unmark options nothing happens - tried already about 100 different
keycombinations.
Sorry bout the stupid question.


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Debian on Cobalt Qube

[Russell Coker]

Some time ago people were asking about Debian on the Sun/Cobalt Qube.

I have just uploaded a new package to unstable - kernel-patch-2.4-cobalt, 
this is a patch for kernels 2.4.16 and 2.4.18 for the Cobalt hardware.

The 2.4.16 patch is the same as that which ships with 2.4.x Qube's (known as 
2.4.16C10), but without XFS, kdb, and kgdb.  The 2.4.18 patch is the same 
ported forward to 2.4.18 and with a ngroups patch removed because it 
conflicts with LSM.

The 2.4.18 patch has had one Oops in 2 days, which I believe to be SE Linux 
related, although the 2.4.16 kernel that Sun ships tends to Oops once or 
twice a week too...

My Qube 3 is now working fully under Debian.  All I had to do was change 
inittab to put a getty on the serial port and none on /dev/tty? devices.

The installation proceedure was to use scp to transfer a tar file containing 
a Debian archive, and then copy it onto a new partition.  The Qube can't 
select different kernels to boot (only different partitions) so you want to 
have at least two partitions having copies of Linux installed.

The kernel patch package I produced hacks the arch/i386/kernel/Makefile to 
produce a gzip compressed vmlinux file instead of a regular bzImage.  This is 
because the Qube BIOS is unable to load a bzImage format kernel.

The Qube BIOS loads the kernel from /boot/vmlinux.gz which will generally be 
a symlink to the kernel you want to boot.


NB  AFAIK Sun has never shipped a Qube or RaQ BIOS that is capable of booting 
2.4.x and 2.2.x kernels!  So if you currently have a Qube or RaQ running 
2.2.x then you can't use my kernel patch.

I would be happy to create a kernel patch package for 2.2.x kernels, but I 
have no access to the source Sun ships, and no ability to do any testing.  If 
someone wants to supply me the source and do the testing then I'll do the 
coding...

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Sirhan Chaudhry/NY/UNO is out of the office.

[Sirhan Chaudhry]

I will be out of the office starting  06/16/2002 and will not return until
06/21/2002.

I am attending the 3rd UNGIWG meeting at the World Bank and will respond to
your message when I return.


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Re: DMA errors on hard drive, but why?

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 06:23, James Green wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've got two Maxtor IDE hard drives. They have been working fine, but since I 
> moved them into drive caddies I've been getting the following messages in 
> dmesg output for the second drive:
[snip]
> What should I do to diagnose this fault? Many thanks.

Since all you say that you changed is putting them in caddies, 
take them out of the caddies and see if you still get the errors.

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Re: true type fonts won't work...

[Ronald Verlaan]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Hubert Chan wrote:

> Ronald> As fontpaths in my XF86config-4 I only configured the xfs and
> Ronald> xfstt font servers. This works as I do see all the fonts
> Ronald> (including the TT fonts) listed with xlsfonts.
>
> Edit /etc/X11/XftConfig.  Add an appropriate dir line.
Sorry I forgot to mention, this I did as well already...



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Re: no glyph loaded + no applets in Panel

[Dave Carrigan]

On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 02:01, Jerome Lacoste wrote:

> I now have the following problems:
> - nautlius doesn't display any fonts on the desktop, nor in its panels
> (news, ...). I see the following error message in .gnome-errors: 
>   no glyph loaded for character ...

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=150084&repeatmerged=yes

For now, the workaround is to downgrade libfreetype6.

> - all my panels havge disappeared from my two gnome bards (the top one
> and the bottom one). If I look into ~/.gnome/panel.d/default, I can see
> that it still seems to contain my settings:

I don't know about this. It isn't related to the above problem (at least
I didn't get that problem).

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Re: Aptitude extended state file

[Kevin B. McCarty]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Joey Hess wrote:

> Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
> > Can anyone tell me what file is Aptitude's extended state file?
> 
> It is /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates

Hmm.  Well, the permissions on pkgstates look ok:
-rw-r--r--1 root root   671804 Jun 16 12:52 pkgstates

I think this problem may have something to do with NFS.  My home partition
on this machine is NFS-mounted, and I use NIS to get user account info.  
When I create a test user on the NIS/NFS server, aptitude gives the same
warning message for him on the client machine.  So does a locally created
user on the client whose home directory is on the NFS mount.  But a user
created locally on the client, with a home directory outside /home, does
not get the warning.

Do you think I should make this a bug report?  If so, against what 
package - aptitude or some piece of NFS?

package versions are:

aptitude0.2.11.1-2  (on both NFS server and client)
nfs-common  1.0-2   "
nfs-kernel-server   1.0-2   (on server only)

kernels are:
2.4.18-686-smp on server, 2.4.18-686 on client

Thanks for your comments,

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Re: Aptitude extended state file

[Kevin B. McCarty]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Kevin B. McCarty wrote:

> I think this problem may have something to do with NFS.  My home partition
> on this machine is NFS-mounted, and I use NIS to get user account info.  
> When I create a test user on the NIS/NFS server, aptitude gives the same
> warning message for him on the client machine.  So does a locally created
> user on the client whose home directory is on the NFS mount.  But a user
> created locally on the client, with a home directory outside /home, does
> not get the warning.

Ah, just saw this bug report that explains everything!
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=146485

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Re: how to stop console cursor blink?

[Henrik Enberg]

Helgi Örn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'd also like to know how to stop the cursor from blinking in Emacs21?

M-x customize-variable RET blink-cursor RET.  Set it to off and don't
forget to click the "Save for Future Sessions" button.

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ulimits

[Martin Hermanowski]

One question:
Where are the default ulimits stored?

I got two Woody machines here, one has a ulimit -u of 256, the other has
3067.

Regards,
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Re: Plans for upgrading to woody & ditching HD

[Scott Henson]

On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 11:23, Andrew Perrin wrote:
> I just realized that I never updated the list on this project.
> 
> I did as Karl suggested, except skipped the --simulate step (got
> impatient). Everything worked absolutely flawlessly, except my attempt to
> write LILO to the new drive without a floppy boot.  I tried changing
> /etc/lilo.conf to write to /dev/hdb (which soon became /dev/hda) but the
> boot stopped at LI.  So I booted with the rescue disk, used root=/dev/hda,
> and re-edited lilo.conf.  

grub wouldnt have had this problem.  I would recommend trying it out. It
is much better than LILO and most other distributors are switching to
it.  I absolutely love it, and it has saved me many a time.  

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Re: Strange boot up problem.

[Scott Henson]

On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 18:34, B. L. Jilek wrote:
> I have a SuperMicro P6DBU motherboard with built in SCSI.  All
> the drives are SCSI on the system.  I just recently bought a 80G
> IDE drive to use for storage.
> 
> The problem is that after I installed the drive the system booted
> up fine.  I have the bootup in the bios to start with Floppy
> then SCSI drives.  It worked fine.
> 
> I was adding an append for the /dev/hda in lilo and ran lilo.
> When I did it gave me an warning that the drive /dev/sda was
> not the first drive in the system.  After rebooting the bios
> said it was booting from SCSI as normal but I got the constant
> 01 01 01 01 thing.
> 
> I've tried various things like returning lilo to it's original
> configuration and the bios was not modified from when It used
> to boot fine.  I'm thinking it's a lilo confusion problem.
> 
> The way I got around this was to install lilo on /dev/hda with
> "other=/dev/sda" in it (the only thing in lilo.conf.hda).  And
> keeping lilo on /dev/sda to boot the system.  It works fine
> like that.  As long as I set the bios to boot from IDE primary master
> instead of from SCSI.  The problem with that setup is I can't
> boot from CDrom unless I change the bios back to booting from SCSI.
> 
> I'm just wanting to know if there are any lilo tricks to get it to
> see /dev/sda as the first drive.  Or if anyone has experience with
> the SuperMicro P6DBU Board that knows of this problem.
> 

Try grub, you wont have this type of problem.

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Re: running X client as root in other accounts

[Glen Lee Edwards]

On Sunday 16 June 2002 10:15 am, uzoma nwosu wrote:
> I really hope this is a simple question that I'm just missing the
> answer somewhere.  I'm running Debian Woody on an AMD K6-2 350 box. 
> Everything works fine for the most part.  It's just that when I try
> to run a xclient as root from a term in an another user account I get
> this error:
>
> # xcdroast
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
>
> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
>
> Now, I've just ignored this issue because it's not task critical.
> However, I now wish to fix this.  So I humbly ask for suggestions.

I'm not real clear on what you're trying to do.  "...run a xclient as 
root from a term in an another user account..."  Do you mean that you 
have two xsessions active on your box from two different users.  Or do 
you mean that you have one xsession active, you've logged into via 
console another user account, su'd to root, and now wish to display 
xcdroast from user2-su[root] on user1's X display?  Or (and most 
likely), you've logged into X.  su'd to root, and now want to start 
xcdroast?

Assuming the latter, try this:  from your primary user and your 
favorite term; su to root,  then enter:

# xcdroast -d :0.0

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Re: ghost email after reboot ???

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 05:33:29PM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
> Oddly enough, every time I reboot, root receives eight (8) emails from
> nearly one year ago -- long, long ago deleted.  Yes, the exact same
> mail every time I reboot.  Since this is a server, I pickup that mail
> remotely and always delete it immediately.  exim is set to forward
> root's email to my account.  This recurring email is more than a year
> old and no subsequently received and deleted emails appear like this.
> 
> I've checked /root/mail/ -- for some reason, root doesn't use mbox --
> nothing there now.  Also, it is not in my ~/mbox.
> 
> I've checked /var/mail -- not even a root entry.  /var/mail/mds is
> empty.

Not that I know the answer but let me try ...

Did you check /var/spool/exim/input/ contents?

What happens if you run "exim -qff" from root on that machine.

What kind of mail is it?  Some message installation program created?

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Re: so how do the pros read all those .gz docs, zless?

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote on Wed Jun 12, 2002 um 11:59:48PM:

> links or galeon.  Galeon will automatically decompress the gzipped
> ones (IIRC).

Wrong. Netscape 4.x did, Mozilla and Galeon do not.

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Re: problems with running remote X programs

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Jun 16, 2002, Osamu Aoki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 11:44:33PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Fri, Jun 14, 2002, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 11:11, Ron Johnson wrote:

<...>

> > > > Any ideas?  Colin Watson says to remove '-nolisten tcp' from the
> > > > script that starts the local X.  I'm going to try that now.
> > > 
> > > Progress!!  After removing '-nolisten tcp' from
> > > /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
> > 
> > Restore it.  You were given bad advice whose implications you don't
> > understand.
> 
> I do understand benefit of SSH but insecure xhost with '-nolisten tcp'
> has advantage if you are behind firewall with slow machines.  So do
> not be so harsh like "You were given bad advice" :)  Colin Watson has
> been good to me like Karsten M. Self was.
> 
> All the discussion about how to set system is really environment
> dependent.

This is true.  However, I see far too many people advocating "xhost +"
and disabling "-nolisten tcp", when the first attempt should be an "ssh
-X".  If this turns out to be too slow for the necessary task (unlikely
for any business/system need), then other options can be explored.  And
again, there are SSH clients (most free) for all significant, and most
insignificant, platforms:

http://www.linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/security/ssh-clients


Telling people to facilitate remote X11 connections by dropping all
security precautions is like telling someone who's complaining of heat
to strip naked.  Though effective, there are other options which might
be attempted first -- turning on a fan, closing blinds, upping the A/C,
or trading the slacks, button-down, and tie for shorts, T-shirt, and
sandals.  The proper solution depends on circumstances and resources,
but there are some alternatives which should be strongly deprecated.

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RE: Problems installinf XFree 4.2 on Woody

[Ronald Castillo]

I've tried that, but that way the XF86Config file doesn't configure well
almost anything (no mouse, monitor isn't configured well, etc...), so
after trying this I tried to manually mix the already existing file with
this new one and still had the video distortion problem.

After reading around it seems like the S3 driver is buggy, so I tried
disabling acceleration and some other things with no luck.

Thanks for your help.

Ronald

-Original Message-
From: Peter Whysall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: domingo, 16 de junio de 2002 1:07
To: Ronald Castillo
Cc: Debian User
Subject: RE: Problems installinf XFree 4.2 on Woody

On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 21:28, Ronald Castillo wrote:
> I've already tried that, but that way I can only configure my video
card
> as a Generic VGA, and like that I can only use 256 Kb of video RAM (I
> have 2048 Kb), so it doesn't work for me...
> 

Have you tried doing "XFree86 -configure" and following the
instructions?

Regards

Peter.


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Re: umsdos and vfat works but no uvfat - any ideas?

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 04:36:28PM +0100, Shri Shrikumar wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I've been trying to get uvfat working and it says that I just need to
> enable umsdos and vfat (which I have) and they both work fine.
> 
> However, when I do 
> 
> mount -t uvfat /dev/hda11 /mnt
> 
> it tells me that uvfat is not supported by the kernel.
> 
> Anybody get uvfat working and if so, how ? Im running kernel 2.4.18 BTW
> on Deb Woody.
root # modprobe umsdos
root # modprobe vfat
root # cat /proc/filesystems
nodev   rootfs
nodev   bdev
nodev   proc
nodev   sockfs
nodev   tmpfs
nodev   shm
nodev   pipefs
cramfs
nodev   devfs
nodev   devpts
ext3
ext2
nodev   autofs
msdos
umsdos
vfat

Looks like no support for "uvfat".  But I do not see "uvfat" in manual
page of "mount".  I see no occurance of "uvfat" in 2.4 kernel source.

Where did you get idea for "uvfat"?

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Re: 1024x768 resolution on Extended SVGA monitor

[Jerome Acks Jr]

On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 09:34:04AM -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
[snip]
> 
> Does anyone know what the interlace/doublescan/hsync values should be, 
> or know of a resource where I might possibly research this?

read-edid package may tell you what to add to your XF86Config file to
get video mode you want.

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sound-recorder

[Ionel Mugurel Ciobica]

Does someone understand this:


First:
==

~> sound-recorder  /tmp/file.wav
Sound Recorder version 0.06 (Build on Feb 24 2002)
Copyright (C) 1997-2000 by B. Warmerdam under GPL.
This program is free software and comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.

Record from dsp (no cdrom support).
To end the recording press CTRL-C
File can't be created (use -k to override overwrite protection).

Second:
===

~> sound-recorder -k /tmp/file.wav
Sound Recorder version 0.06 (Build on Feb 24 2002)
Copyright (C) 1997-2000 by B. Warmerdam under GPL.
This program is free software and comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.

sound-recorder: invalid option -- k
Options:
-c  Number of channels [1/2]
-s  Samplerate of the recording
-b  Bits per sample [8/16]
-k  Keep going if destination file already exists (overwrite)
-P  Use a higher priority for recording thread
-A  Audio device (default /dev/dsp)
-e  Execute this statement after recording (eg 'rm $file')
-S  The recording time (mm:ss)
-f  Output format [wav/pcm/cdr/ima3/ima4/ima5]
-h  This information




The file /tmp/file.wav exists and I own it.


I don't understand the "invalid option -- k" and the "-k  Keep going
if destination file already exists (overwrite)". Aren't they
contradictories?


Thank you,
Ionel


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Re: true type fonts won't work...

[Ronald Verlaan]

On 16 Jun 2002, Peter Whysall wrote:

Hi Peter,

> > Any hints?
>
> Are you loading the "freetype" module in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ?
Yes I did :P
Thanx anyway!

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Re: K7S5a & md driver, Debian 2.2R6 problems

[csj]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 18:50:12 -0400
lketter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Have a K7S5A that is locking on the  CDROM boot of disk 1.  It
>  locks after the floppy detect when it starts to load the md driver
>  (version 0.36.6 ).  The DDR chip is the CE POWMEM 512MB 266MHZ, 184
>  pin It keeps locking constistantly at this point Do you have
>  any suggestions?

Since you asked for a suggestion and not a(n outright) solution, here
goes. Is this an ECS board? Get a kernel with SIS chipset support
enabled. You probably can't do this with the installer you now have. You
might need to build a custom one using your other computer.

> I have been using Debian since the MAY 25,2000 Beta & have never
> seen a problem quite like this before

 Yes, the SIS-based boards are quite amazing. 


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Re: realplayer window immediately locks up on launching

[Karsten M. Self]

on Fri, Jun 14, 2002, Matthew Yee-King ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hello
> 
> (woody, 2.4.18bf2.4
> 
> I am trying to get realplayer working. I downloaded the installer from
> realnetworks and installed it. when i run it, it opens a window, maybe
> displays a couple of widgets, then locks up. 


Please set your mailer/editor linewrap to 68-75 characters.  I strongly
recommend 72 as a good default.

Thank you.

> anyone else had this problem?
> 
> how can i fix it?

1.  $ apt-get install xmms
2.  Read http://www.xmms.org/comments.html?show=P138
3.  Download ftp://ftp.xmms.org/xmms/plugins/rmxmms/libreal.so

Drop the plugin in /usr/lib/xmms/General

You'll still need RealPlayer installed to make this work, but you don't
actually need to _run_ the piece of crap.

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Re: why nmap shows lots of filtered ports?

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 10:54:50AM +, matt yee-king wrote:
| Hello
| 
| I've testing the vulnerability of my box on a basic ports level by
| scanning it with nmap. 
 
| does this mean theres some sort of firewall in place protecting my box?

There's some sort of network filtering going on.  Whether it is
"working" depends on what it does compared with what you expect it to
do.  nmap labels a port as "filtered" if it does not receive either a
SYN-ACK or a RST in response to a SYN packet.

This means that if you DROP every packet to that port, it is
"filtered".  If you accept some hosts but not others it is also
"filtered" unless you test from an allowed host which will see it as
"open".

The difference in results when scanning from localhost and from
a remote machine is due to differences in the rules you (or someone
else) have set up.
 
| just that the network admin people say there isn't

Do they control your machine?  Every linux system can have its own
firewall/packet filter, and there can be firewalls or filters on other
systems or routers between the linux system and the other host.

| and whats all that windows netbios stuff??

It is netbios stuff :-).  Netbios has ports 137-139 reserved, so when
nmap looks at those ports it is capable of displaying a name.  Either
you allow netbios from only certain hosts (and not localhost) or you
are DROPping all such packets.

| and whats kdm?

Dunno.  XDMCP is port 177 and it's the only reason I can think of for
[xgkw]dm to listen on a socket.  Port 1024 isn't defined in
/etc/services.

| i'm not running kde...


| and am i mad sending all this data to this list - ?

No, not really.

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Re: Debian on Cobalt Qube

[Adam Heath]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Russell Coker wrote:

> The kernel patch package I produced hacks the arch/i386/kernel/Makefile to
> produce a gzip compressed vmlinux file instead of a regular bzImage.  This is
> because the Qube BIOS is unable to load a bzImage format kernel.

bzImage is gzip compressed.  bzImage just means the zImage can be larger,
hence b for bigger.


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Re: Debian on Cobalt Qube

[Russell Coker]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 21:59, Adam Heath wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Russell Coker wrote:
> > The kernel patch package I produced hacks the arch/i386/kernel/Makefile
> > to produce a gzip compressed vmlinux file instead of a regular bzImage. 
> > This is because the Qube BIOS is unable to load a bzImage format kernel.
>
> bzImage is gzip compressed.  bzImage just means the zImage can be larger,
> hence b for bigger.

I know that.

However a Qube needs a vmlinux file that's compressed by "gzip -9 vmlinux" 
which is quite different to a zImage or bzImage file.  I changed the relevant 
makefile so that you can use make-kpkg to generate packages for the Qube.

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Re: realplayer window immediately locks up on launching

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 12:54:04PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
| on Fri, Jun 14, 2002, Matthew Yee-King ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

| > I am trying to get realplayer working. I downloaded the installer from
| > realnetworks and installed it. when i run it, it opens a window, maybe
| > displays a couple of widgets, then locks up. 
 
| > 
| > how can i fix it?
| 
| 1.  $ apt-get install xmms
| 2.  Read http://www.xmms.org/comments.html?show=P138
| 3.  Download ftp://ftp.xmms.org/xmms/plugins/rmxmms/libreal.so
| 
| Drop the plugin in /usr/lib/xmms/General
| 
| You'll still need RealPlayer installed to make this work, but you don't
| actually need to _run_ the piece of crap.

Minor correction -- you need to run it once so you can tell it the
correct audio output driver to use.  (hence my problems back when I
tried to install it)  After that you're golden.  (until the streaming
server shuts down, but there's nothing debian can do about that :-()

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Re: ghost email after reboot ???

[Michael D. Schleif]

Osamu =>

Thank you, for your participation.

Osamu Aoki wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 05:33:29PM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
> > Oddly enough, every time I reboot, root receives eight (8) emails from
> > nearly one year ago -- long, long ago deleted.  Yes, the exact same
> > mail every time I reboot.  Since this is a server, I pickup that mail
> > remotely and always delete it immediately.  exim is set to forward
> > root's email to my account.  This recurring email is more than a year
> > old and no subsequently received and deleted emails appear like this.
> >
> > I've checked /root/mail/ -- for some reason, root doesn't use mbox --
> > nothing there now.  Also, it is not in my ~/mbox.
> >
> > I've checked /var/mail -- not even a root entry.  /var/mail/mds is
> > empty.
> 
> Not that I know the answer but let me try ...
> 
> Did you check /var/spool/exim/input/ contents?

No; but, now that I do, I find mail that I thought had been deleted
weeks ago -- *not* those messages that reappear after reboot, though. 
Can I just delete these?

> What happens if you run "exim -qff" from root on that machine.

Takes nearly a minute to return to a prompt.

> What kind of mail is it?  Some message installation program created?

Mostly post-crash messages about nvi recovery files, system messages to
root, &c.

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Re: K7S5a & md driver, Debian 2.2R6 problems

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 14:49, csj wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 18:50:12 -0400
> lketter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Have a K7S5A that is locking on the  CDROM boot of disk 1.  It
> >  locks after the floppy detect when it starts to load the md driver
> >  (version 0.36.6 ).  The DDR chip is the CE POWMEM 512MB 266MHZ, 184
> >  pin It keeps locking constistantly at this point Do you have
> >  any suggestions?
> 
> Since you asked for a suggestion and not a(n outright) solution, here
> goes. Is this an ECS board? Get a kernel with SIS chipset support
> enabled. You probably can't do this with the installer you now have. You
> might need to build a custom one using your other computer.
> 
> > I have been using Debian since the MAY 25,2000 Beta & have never
> > seen a problem quite like this before
> 
>  Yes, the SIS-based boards are quite amazing. 

My wife's PC has been using the same model board (don't know what rev),
but with a 512MB SDRAM chip for 4 months with no problems.  Used the
idepci kernel to install with, and now run a custom 2.4.17 kernel.

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Re: whats wrong with this grep?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Jun 16, 2002, Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> begin  Tim locke  quotation:
> 
> > Craig, Sorry about not being clear on my question.
> > It's because I'm having a hard time analysing large
> > amount of traffic logs and the fact that I'm not an
> > expert at scripting and what I was looking for was a
> > quick way to get the number of src ips.
> 
> Okay, but what does the input file (oos.txt) look like? I don't see how
> your script would apply to an apache access log, so I'm guessing this
> is some other program's log, but which one? If you still need help with
> this, please post a line or two of text that you expect to match the
> initial grep, and perhaps a line or two from the same file that should
> _not_ match the grep, and we'll see if your script ought to work, or if
> there might be a simpler way to do it.

Also, generally, it's easier to debug a script by breaking it into
component pieces.  See if the 'grep' is returning what you want.  Check
that your 'cut' is splitting the results properly.  That your sort
works.  Etc.  Divide and conquor.

If you're posting to list, sample data and intended results are also
necessary.

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Re: ghost email after reboot ???

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 03:13:34PM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
| Osamu =>
 
| > Did you check /var/spool/exim/input/ contents?
| 
| No; but, now that I do, I find mail that I thought had been deleted
| weeks ago -- *not* those messages that reappear after reboot, though. 
| Can I just delete these?

It's better not to delete them directly.  Instead run
mailq
to get a listing of the messages (exim's id for the message, who it is
for, and a little more info).

Then run
exim -oMr 
to remove message  from the queue.

| > What happens if you run "exim -qff" from root on that machine.
| 
| Takes nearly a minute to return to a prompt.

Slow delivery or slow to result in errors.

Check your mainlog (/var/log/exim/mainlog) to see why those messages
are stuck in the queue.
 
| > What kind of mail is it?  Some message installation program created?
| 
| Mostly post-crash messages about nvi recovery files, system messages
| to root, &c.
 
Do the nvi recovery files still exist?  If so then it is possible they
are new messages getting re-generated each time.

| Any other ideas?
 
Find out what is wrong with your exim queue and work from there.

-D

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Re: umsdos and vfat works but no uvfat - any ideas?

[Shri Shrikumar]

On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 20:03, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 04:36:28PM +0100, Shri Shrikumar wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I've been trying to get uvfat working and it says that I just need to
> > enable umsdos and vfat (which I have) and they both work fine.
> > 
> > However, when I do 
> > 
> > mount -t uvfat /dev/hda11 /mnt
> > 
> > it tells me that uvfat is not supported by the kernel.
> > 
> > Anybody get uvfat working and if so, how ? Im running kernel 2.4.18 BTW
> > on Deb Woody.
> root # modprobe umsdos
> root # modprobe vfat
> root # cat /proc/filesystems
> nodev   rootfs
> nodev   bdev
> nodev   proc
> nodev   sockfs
> nodev   tmpfs
> nodev   shm
> nodev   pipefs
> cramfs
> nodev   devfs
> nodev   devpts
> ext3
> ext2
> nodev   autofs
> msdos
> umsdos
> vfat
> 
> Looks like no support for "uvfat".  But I do not see "uvfat" in manual
> page of "mount".  I see no occurance of "uvfat" in 2.4 kernel source.
> 
> Where did you get idea for "uvfat"?


just google for it (I was originally looking for vfat with unix meta
information like umsdos for msdos)

It looks like it existed at least at some point. Any ideas where I might
be able to get more info on it - couldn't really find any email
addresses in my hunt.

All help appreciated.


Shri


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Mozilla feature?

[Florentin Ionescu]

Opera has a cool feature that allows you, at start time,  to open sites
previously you had opened. Does anybody have ideeas haw to make mozzila
to do same thing ?

Thank you,
 Florentin.


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Re: true type fonts won't work...

[Stephan Hachinger]

- Original Message -
From: "Ronald Verlaan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Peter Whysall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Debian User Mailinglist" 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: true type fonts won't work...


> On 16 Jun 2002, Peter Whysall wrote:
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> > > Any hints?
> >
> > Are you loading the "freetype" module in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ?
> Yes I did :P
> Thanx anyway!
>
Hi!

Another very easy way is installing xfstt and placing your truetype fonts in
/usr/share/fonts/truetype, adding unix:/7100 (besides unix:/7101 for xfs, I
think) to the FontPath in XF86Config-4. Then install ttmkfdir and tetex-bin
and a package containing "mkfontdir" (i.e. xutils, I think (again *g*)). Go
to the directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype, call the script in the first
chapter of this howto:
http://www.linuxvoodoo.com/howto/HOWTO/TT-Debian/TT-Debian-5.html , call
ttmkfdir > fonts.scale , call mkfontdir and look if ./fonts.dir contains the
font names ;). Then call xfstt --sync . Your fonts should be available to X
now. (after a restart of your X server). Finally, you should make your fonts
available for printing (gs), as described in
http://www.linuxvoodoo.com/howto/HOWTO/TT-Debian/TT-Debian-4.html ; you
should only take care for where your gs Fontmap actually is (I think it's
now somewhere else than in /etc, see dpkg -S *Fontmap* for the right
location), and change the line xfstt --gslist --sync >> /etc/gs.Fontmap
accordingly. The author of the howto describes, that one should edit the
Fontmap file manually afterwards. That's right. If gs cannot find a font
in - for example a kde document whcih you want to print - , though, and uses
the default font instead, the following way helped at my machine (if I
remember correctly):

1) Force printing to ps.
2) Call gs 
3) Watch gs output: It will say which font it does not find.
4) Take a look at  with an editor and search for the font definition
of the font not found - you will find that the spelling differs slightly
from the one at your Fontmap or so.
5) Put a new alias in your Fontmap which "maps the different spelling" to
the one you've used in your Fontmap before.

Aliases work like this:

/Arial/MS-Arial   ;

means: use previously defined font MS-Arial for Arial, if Arial is requested
by a document.

(For further information: The whole howto is at:
http://www.linuxvoodoo.com/howto/HOWTO/TT-Debian/ ).

Cheers,

Stephan


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kernel panic

[Greg Fischer]

Recently, I've been getting what I think are kernel panics on my server
machine, running woody and kernel 2.4.18.  The machine does not have a
monitor hooked up to it.  How do I go about finding out what is causing
this problem?  There's nothing in the log files.  Thanks.


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Another guide for a diskless installation?

[debian . org]

I have an IBM Thinkpad 560 with no external floppy drive or (any) CD-ROM. 
It's running Win '95 with no other partitions and the only way to get data in
or out of the laptop is with an Ethernet PC Card.

That's why I'd like to execute a diskless installation.  The installation
guide seems to treat this type of installation as an afterthought, but I'm
also having trouble finding a more thorough guide to a diskless installation.

I'm also looking to convert this laptop into a basic Internet surfing machine.
 What *lightweight* browsers can I use?  I also define weight to be total
weight, including any desktop GUIs that I'll need to install.  I've heard of
Galeon and Skipstone, and I think at least of of them needs GNOME (I was also
originally thinking about using XFree86).

Any thoughts and resources would be greatly appreciated!


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Re: Another guide for a diskless installation?

[Hans Ekbrand]

On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 05:19:13PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have an IBM Thinkpad 560 with no external floppy drive or (any) CD-ROM. 
> It's running Win '95 with no other partitions and the only way to get data in
> or out of the laptop is with an Ethernet PC Card.
> 
> That's why I'd like to execute a diskless installation.  The installation
> guide seems to treat this type of installation as an afterthought, but I'm
> also having trouble finding a more thorough guide to a diskless installation.

1. Will you install to the partition that currently holds MS Windows?

2. When you say diskless installation and also states that there is no
external floppy or (any) CD-ROM, do really mean diskless (e.g. use a
bootrom on a nic to boot over the network) or is there an internal
floppy drive?

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Re: Mozilla feature?

[Alex Malinovich]

On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 15:35, Florentin Ionescu wrote:
> Opera has a cool feature that allows you, at start time,  to open sites
> previously you had opened. Does anybody have ideeas haw to make mozzila
> to do same thing ?

Yup, it's called galeon. :) Galeon is a Mozilla-based browser that has
all the functionality of Opera and then some.

-Alex


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Re: Mozilla feature?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Jun 16, 2002, Alex Malinovich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 15:35, Florentin Ionescu wrote:
> > Opera has a cool feature that allows you, at start time,  to open sites
> > previously you had opened. Does anybody have ideeas haw to make mozzila
> > to do same thing ?
> 
> Yup, it's called galeon. :) Galeon is a Mozilla-based browser that has
> all the functionality of Opera and then some.

ObAOL:  Metoo.

Session recovery and "save session on exit" are what you want.  Galeon
rocks, strokes me gently, and purrs.

Peace.

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Re: Sirhan Chaudhry/NY/UNO is out of the office.

[ben]

On Sunday 16 June 2002 09:57 am, Sirhan Chaudhry wrote:
> I will be out of the office starting  06/16/2002 and will not return until
> 06/21/2002.
>
> I am attending the 3rd UNGIWG meeting at the World Bank and will respond to
> your message when I return.

one can only hope that your ineptitude is limited to this.

ben


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Re: Sirhan Chaudhry/NY/UNO is out of the office.

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Jun 16, 2002, ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sunday 16 June 2002 09:57 am, Sirhan Chaudhry wrote:
> > I will be out of the office starting  06/16/2002 and will not return until
> > 06/21/2002.
> >
> > I am attending the 3rd UNGIWG meeting at the World Bank and will respond to
> > your message when I return.
> 
> one can only hope that your ineptitude is limited to this.

http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/lookup.cgi?domain=un.org

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Re: Another guide for a diskless installation?

[Hans Ekbrand]

On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 05:35:09PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Thanks for the response:
> 
> Indeed, there's no internal floppy either ... this is their ultra-light
> Pentium laptop.  The only type of floppy drive available to this machine is
> external, and it wasn't available to me when I bought the laptop.
> 
> I also have no desire to keep anything Windows, so I would like to install to
> the partition that contains Windows, too.

There are two ways:

1. Boot via bootrom on nic (etherboot, dhcp, tftp and nfs). Mount your local
harddisk, partition it and install to it. (You will of course need
another computer in the same network to offer these services)

2. Use your Windows partition (disk) to hold the kernel (and the
driver files), use loadlin to start the installation process. As I
haven't installed lately the following is perhaps not accurate: To be
able to install the base packages (so apt-get will work) to /, you
will have to format at least one partition as a native linux fs (e.g.
ext2). But for the installation process to be able to read the base
packages, you must not wipe your current vfat partition. To get out of
this paradox, make some space, by deleting (uninstalling) most windows
programs, use fips, or (partition magic) to repartition and create a
small vfat partition that can hold the base packages. Start
installation (loadlin), (partition and) format hda1 as ext2, install
base from the other vfat partion, and the rest from the net.

Untested, just the way I would go about and do it.

Good Luck!

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Re: Another guide for a diskless installation?

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 16:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have an IBM Thinkpad 560 with no external floppy drive or (any) CD-ROM. 
> It's running Win '95 with no other partitions and the only way to get data in
> or out of the laptop is with an Ethernet PC Card.
> 
> That's why I'd like to execute a diskless installation.  The installation
> guide seems to treat this type of installation as an afterthought, but I'm
> also having trouble finding a more thorough guide to a diskless installation.

Google is your friend!!!
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&q=thinkpad+560
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&q=thinkpad+560+linux

The web-sites I saw did refer to floppy drives.  Getting one (on
Ebay??) would make your life infinitely simpler.

Then, it it no problem to do a network install once you have the
3(?) initial floppy disks.

> I'm also looking to convert this laptop into a basic Internet surfing machine.
>  What *lightweight* browsers can I use?  I also define weight to be total
> weight, including any desktop GUIs that I'll need to install.  I've heard of
> Galeon and Skipstone, and I think at least of of them needs GNOME (I was also
> originally thinking about using XFree86).
> 
> Any thoughts and resources would be greatly appreciated!

How much RAM do you have?  Opera is a very good light-weight browser.
You will almost definitely have to forgo GNOME & KDE, and must use
something like blackbox or fvwm2.

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Re: Another guide for a diskless installation?

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 17:00, Hans Ekbrand wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 05:35:09PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
> 1. Boot via bootrom on nic (etherboot, dhcp, tftp and nfs). Mount your local
> harddisk, partition it and install to it. (You will of course need
> another computer in the same network to offer these services)

I'd be really interested in seeing a boot ROM on a PCMCIA card.

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