[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue

[kc9ony]

Thank you!

Tom KC9ONY

--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, "john_ke5c"  wrote:
>
> http://wa8lmf.net/miscinfo/APRS_Symbol_Chart.pdf 
> 
> Note - two characters, '/' for primary symbol table followed by one 
> character, or '\' for alternate symbol table followed by one character.
> 
> E.g., '/-' for home (vhf) or '\-' for home (hf).
> 
> 73--John
> 
> --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, "kc9ony"  wrote:
> >
> > Is there a list somewhere that tells what the OTHER symbols are?
>

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue

[john_ke5c]

http://wa8lmf.net/miscinfo/APRS_Symbol_Chart.pdf 

Note - two characters, '/' for primary symbol table followed by one character, 
or '\' for alternate symbol table followed by one character.

E.g., '/-' for home (vhf) or '\-' for home (hf).

73--John

--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, "kc9ony"  wrote:
>
> Is there a list somewhere that tells what the OTHER symbols are?

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue

[kc9ony]

Is there a list somewhere that tells what the OTHER symbols are?

Thanks,
Tom KC9ONY

--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Brian Mury  wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 14:49 -0400, Steve Lewis wrote:
> > This was the most helpful reply received.  Starting digging into 
> > GPS-A...figured out that if I have my "symbol" in the radio set to 
> > "Other" -- "Other" becomes nothing and you miss a character.
> > 
> > So, set your "symbol" to anything OTHER than "Other" and it will be 
> > fine.  "I can hear me now".  :-)
> 
> "Other" works, but you need to change the "--" to the two character
> representation for whatever symbol you wish to use. After scrolling down
> to "Other", push the dial, and you can edit the text.
> 
> I have mine set to "/-", which is a house symbol.
>

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue

[Brian Mury]

On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 14:49 -0400, Steve Lewis wrote:
> This was the most helpful reply received.  Starting digging into 
> GPS-A...figured out that if I have my "symbol" in the radio set to 
> "Other" -- "Other" becomes nothing and you miss a character.
> 
> So, set your "symbol" to anything OTHER than "Other" and it will be 
> fine.  "I can hear me now".  :-)

"Other" works, but you need to change the "--" to the two character
representation for whatever symbol you wish to use. After scrolling down
to "Other", push the dial, and you can edit the text.

I have mine set to "/-", which is a house symbol.

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue

[Adrian]

On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 15:28 +, J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT wrote:

>   
> What do RMC and GCA mean?
> 
> Do I need to register somewhere for my DSTAR position reports to show
> up on findu.fi?
> 
> I have already registered as a user on the NJ2DG system and can access
> W2DGL.


Have a look here;

http://vk4tux.no-ip.org/

scroll down to;

2820 GPS Setup 

For step by step detailed procedure.

vk4tux

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue

[Steve Lewis]

This was the most helpful reply received.  Starting digging into 
GPS-A...figured out that if I have my "symbol" in the radio set to 
"Other" -- "Other" becomes nothing and you miss a character.

So, set your "symbol" to anything OTHER than "Other" and it will be 
fine.  "I can hear me now".  :-)

-73-

On 5/23/2010 10:08 AM, ae5pl wrote:
>
>
> The issue is the symbol (or actually the lack of a symbol). The APRS
> packet format
> !3912.21N08421.72W/
> should actually be
> !3912.21N/08421.72Ws
> where 's' is a character denoting the symbol used for your station. The
> symbol is a setable value in the 2820, consists of 2 characters, usually
> '/' (between the latitude and longitude) and another character denoting
> what symbol to use. If you manually set this up (I am not fully familiar
> with the 2820 programming) to something other than one of the 2820's
> predefined symbols, I am guessing that you tried to use a space or
> something else that is not allowed and the 2820 choked on it. Try using
> one of the predefined symbols in the 2820 and that should take care of it.
>
> 73,
>
> Pete AE5PL
>
> --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
> , Steve Lewis  wrote:
>  >
>  > Although I won't do it on a permanent basis, I want to be able to
>  > "broadcast" my location via DPRS. I set the radio for GPS-A, set the
>  > "unproto" for API282,DSTAR* .
>  >
>  > My packets are sorta getting out there, but aprs.fi says this:
>  >
>  > 2010-05-23 04:02:09 UTC:
>  > N8TFD>API282,DSTAR*,qAR,K8BIG-B:!3912.21N08421.73W/ [Unsupported packet
>  > format]
>  >
>  > Any thoughts?
>  >
>  > -73-
>  >
>
> 




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[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue

[ae5pl]

Go to http://www.aprs-is.net/dprs.aspx for information on the D-PRS translation 
and how to configure your radio.

As far as GPS-A vs. GPS modes, the D-STAR radios are not designed as 
interactive tracking radios.  Some radios will show a transmitting station's 
position information if the transmitting station is in GPS mode.  However, 
there is no memory and little error control.  GPS-A mode is not displayed on 
remote D-STAR radio displays but is much more reliable due to the use of a CRC 
to error check the received data and due to the transmission of a single line 
instead of a group of lines.  This is very important considering that the 
portion of the DV bit stream that is used for the GPS information has no error 
protection and is very susceptible to bit errors (the bit stream is a 4800 bps 
transmission).

If your intent is to be seen in the APRS world via D-PRS, then GPS-A mode is 
the more reliable.  If your intent is to have some other D-STAR users see your 
position on their display while you transmit, the GPS mode is the way to go.  
GPS mode if properly configured (see link above) will get you into APRS as 
well; just not as reliably.  Use what fits your intended goals.

Hope this helps.

73,

Pete AE5PL

--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, "J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT" 
 wrote:
>
> What do RMC and GCA mean?

These are GPS strings that the radios use to send over the air.  The selection 
is done via menu (or software) in the radio.

> Do I need to register somewhere for my DSTAR position reports to show up on
> findu.fi?

No, just follow the instructions at http://www.aprs-is.net/dprs.aspx

> I have already registered as a user on the NJ2DG system and can access
> W2DGL.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks & 73,
> 
> Gordon Beattie, W2TTT

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue

[Francis Miele]

they are parameters in the GPS sentence that need to be on.

You do not need to register anything extra for DPRS on aprs.fi

Fran, W1FJM

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:28 AM, J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT <
w2...@arrl.net> wrote:

>
>
>  What do RMC and GCA mean?
>
> Do I need to register somewhere for my DSTAR position reports to show up on
> findu.fi?
>
> I have already registered as a user on the NJ2DG system and can access
> W2DGL.
>
>
>
> *Thanks & 73,*
>
> *Gordon Beattie, W2TTT*
>
> *201.314.6964***
>   --
>
> *From:* Francis Miele [mailto:f...@miele-family.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 23, 2010 2:23 PM
> *To:* dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue
>
>
>
>
>
> First don't use GPS-A. Other DSTAR radios won't be able to see you
> location.
>
> Then  turn on  RMC and GCA  ONLY  in the dv settings
>
> Make sure "GPS TX mode" is set to GPS, the "GPS Auto TX Timer" is set to
> off and the "DV DATA TX" is set to PTT
>
> Go to http://www.aprs-is.net/DPRSCalc.aspx, fill in the blanks and copy
> the "Input into TX Message C1:" into your gps message in your radio.
>
> It should work!
>
> You can go to http://aprs.fi/ to see if you are being seen.
>
> --
>
> Fran, W1FJM
>
>
>
> <http://www.miele-family.com/weather><http://www.miele-family.com/weather>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:08 AM, ae5pl  wrote:
>
>
>
> The issue is the symbol (or actually the lack of a symbol). The APRS packet
> format
> !3912.21N08421.72W/
> should actually be
> !3912.21N/08421.72Ws
> where 's' is a character denoting the symbol used for your station. The
> symbol is a setable value in the 2820, consists of 2 characters, usually '/'
> (between the latitude and longitude) and another character denoting what
> symbol to use. If you manually set this up (I am not fully familiar with the
> 2820 programming) to something other than one of the 2820's predefined
> symbols, I am guessing that you tried to use a space or something else that
> is not allowed and the 2820 choked on it. Try using one of the predefined
> symbols in the 2820 and that should take care of it.
>
> 73,
>
> Pete AE5PL
>
> --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com ,
> Steve Lewis  wrote:
> >
> > Although I won't do it on a permanent basis, I want to be able to
> > "broadcast" my location via DPRS. I set the radio for GPS-A, set the
> > "unproto" for API282,DSTAR* .
> >
> > My packets are sorta getting out there, but aprs.fi says this:
> >
> > 2010-05-23 04:02:09 UTC:
> > N8TFD>API282,DSTAR*,qAR,K8BIG-B:!3912.21N08421.73W/ [Unsupported packet
> > format]
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > -73-
> >
>
>
>
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RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue

[J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT]

What do RMC and GCA mean?

Do I need to register somewhere for my DSTAR position reports to show up on
findu.fi?

I have already registered as a user on the NJ2DG system and can access
W2DGL.

 

Thanks & 73,

Gordon Beattie, W2TTT

201.314.6964

  _  

From: Francis Miele [mailto:f...@miele-family.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 2:23 PM
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue

 

  

First don't use GPS-A. Other DSTAR radios won't be able to see you location.

Then  turn on  RMC and GCA  ONLY  in the dv settings

Make sure "GPS TX mode" is set to GPS, the "GPS Auto TX Timer" is set to off
and the "DV DATA TX" is set to PTT

Go to http://www.aprs- <http://www.aprs-is.net/DPRSCalc.aspx>
is.net/DPRSCalc.aspx, fill in the blanks and copy the "Input into TX Message
C1:" into your gps message in your radio.

It should work!

You can go to http://aprs. <http://aprs.fi/> fi/ to see if you are being
seen.

--

Fran, W1FJM

 

 <http://www.miele-family.com/weather>
<http://www.miele-family.com/weather> 

 

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:08 AM, ae5pl  wrote:

  

The issue is the symbol (or actually the lack of a symbol). The APRS packet
format
!3912.21N08421.72W/
should actually be
!3912.21N/08421.72Ws
where 's' is a character denoting the symbol used for your station. The
symbol is a setable value in the 2820, consists of 2 characters, usually '/'
(between the latitude and longitude) and another character denoting what
symbol to use. If you manually set this up (I am not fully familiar with the
2820 programming) to something other than one of the 2820's predefined
symbols, I am guessing that you tried to use a space or something else that
is not allowed and the 2820 choked on it. Try using one of the predefined
symbols in the 2820 and that should take care of it.

73,

Pete AE5PL

--- In dstar_digital@ <mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, Steve Lewis  wrote:
>
> Although I won't do it on a permanent basis, I want to be able to 
> "broadcast" my location via DPRS. I set the radio for GPS-A, set the 
> "unproto" for API282,DSTAR* .
> 
> My packets are sorta getting out there, but aprs.fi says this:
> 
> 2010-05-23 04:02:09 UTC: 
> N8TFD>API282,DSTAR*,qAR,K8BIG-B:!3912.21N08421.73W/ [Unsupported packet 
> format]
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> -73-
>

 




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Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue

[Francis Miele]

First don't use GPS-A. Other DSTAR radios won't be able to see you location.

Then  turn on  RMC and GCA  ONLY  in the dv settings

Make sure "GPS TX mode" is set to GPS, the "GPS Auto TX Timer" is set to off
and the "DV DATA TX" is set to PTT

Go to http://www.aprs-is.net/DPRSCalc.aspx, fill in the blanks and copy the
"Input into TX Message C1:" into your gps message in your radio.

It should work!

You can go to http://aprs.fi/ to see if you are being seen.

Fran Signature

--

Fran, W1FJM



 


On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:08 AM, ae5pl  wrote:

>
>
> The issue is the symbol (or actually the lack of a symbol). The APRS packet
> format
> !3912.21N08421.72W/
> should actually be
> !3912.21N/08421.72Ws
> where 's' is a character denoting the symbol used for your station. The
> symbol is a setable value in the 2820, consists of 2 characters, usually '/'
> (between the latitude and longitude) and another character denoting what
> symbol to use. If you manually set this up (I am not fully familiar with the
> 2820 programming) to something other than one of the 2820's predefined
> symbols, I am guessing that you tried to use a space or something else that
> is not allowed and the 2820 choked on it. Try using one of the predefined
> symbols in the 2820 and that should take care of it.
>
> 73,
>
> Pete AE5PL
>
> --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com ,
> Steve Lewis  wrote:
> >
> > Although I won't do it on a permanent basis, I want to be able to
> > "broadcast" my location via DPRS. I set the radio for GPS-A, set the
> > "unproto" for API282,DSTAR* .
> >
> > My packets are sorta getting out there, but aprs.fi says this:
> >
> > 2010-05-23 04:02:09 UTC:
> > N8TFD>API282,DSTAR*,qAR,K8BIG-B:!3912.21N08421.73W/ [Unsupported packet
> > format]
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > -73-
> >
>
>  
>

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue

[ae5pl]

The issue is the symbol (or actually the lack of a symbol).  The APRS packet 
format
!3912.21N08421.72W/
should actually be
!3912.21N/08421.72Ws
where 's' is a character denoting the symbol used for your station. The symbol 
is a setable value in the 2820, consists of 2 characters, usually '/' (between 
the latitude and longitude) and another character denoting what symbol to use.  
If you manually set this up (I am not fully familiar with the 2820 programming) 
to something other than one of the 2820's predefined symbols, I am guessing 
that you tried to use a space or something else that is not allowed and the 
2820 choked on it.  Try using one of the predefined symbols in the 2820 and 
that should take care of it.

73,

Pete AE5PL

--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Steve Lewis  wrote:
>
> Although I won't do it on a permanent basis, I want to be able to 
> "broadcast" my location via DPRS.  I set the radio for GPS-A, set the 
> "unproto" for API282,DSTAR* .
> 
> My packets are sorta getting out there, but aprs.fi says this:
> 
> 2010-05-23 04:02:09 UTC: 
> N8TFD>API282,DSTAR*,qAR,K8BIG-B:!3912.21N08421.73W/ [Unsupported packet 
> format]
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> -73-
>