Re: gEDA-user: PCB woes

2007-10-24 Thread DJ Delorie

> Far from being an expert, I did some programming in GTK... I'll try to
> identify where the problem is... and look at the patches from Peter too.

Thanks!

> The two GUIs do cause some confusion, as the manual says, eg.,
> "right-click on the component to convert to element"... No popup appears
> in GTK. And some other bits.

Neither do.  The documentation is VERY old, and one of the things on
my long-term to-do list.


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Re: gEDA-user: PCB woes

2007-10-24 Thread John Coppens
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:30:20 -0400
DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And none of them
> are Gtk experts.

Far from being an expert, I did some programming in GTK... I'll try to
identify where the problem is... and look at the patches from Peter too.

The two GUIs do cause some confusion, as the manual says, eg.,
"right-click on the component to convert to element"... No popup appears
in GTK. And some other bits.

Thanks,
John


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Re: gEDA-user: PCB woes

2007-10-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 10:22 -0300, John Coppens wrote:
> Hello all.
> 
> I don't want to sound unappreciative of all the work put into gEDA a
> particularly in PCB, I do appreciate it.
> 
> Only, I wonder if someone uses the latest PCB (20070912) and it works for
> him/her? There are a lot of issues with cursor movements etc, which make
> it basically unusable. I've tried CVS, but it responds the same. I filed
> a bug against PCB, but, appart from a confirmation from another user
> reporting the same, I had no reaction to the report. (bugs 1796016 and
> 1796012 - though the last bug hasn't reappeared yet).
> 
> I've started to try and analyze how the program works, but it is somewhat
> beyond my programming skills... Still, I'll have another go. Maybe someone
> can indicate where to start looking?

Here is a tarball of patches I applied to the CUED version of the last
PCB release.

They fix most of the bug I found with cross hair movement on the back of
the board, and provide some defaults I thought were more appropriate for
our use.

Dan knows about the cross hair issue (it is fixed better in CVS than the
last release anyway), and I also told him about the auto-pan getting the
direction wrong on the back of the board.

http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/pcb_patches.tar.gz

Note that they are "dpatch" patches for a .deb build.

You'll need to copy the "patch" looking bits out of them, and apply
that.

Bandwidth availability (my own) has lead to not all of these fixes being
pushed upstream although they have been posted here before.

Best wishes,

Peter Clifton



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Re: gEDA-user: PCB woes

2007-10-24 Thread DJ Delorie

[sent too soon]

> I filed a bug against PCB, but, appart from a confirmation from
> another user reporting the same, I had no reaction to the
> report. (bugs 1796016 and 1796012 - though the last bug hasn't
> reappeared yet).

I hope everyone realizes that there are very few pcb developers.
Three or four active ones at the moment, I think.  And none of them
are Gtk experts.

If anyone knows of a Gtk expert might be interested in working on PCB,
*please* invite them to do so.

> I've started to try and analyze how the program works, but it is
> somewhat beyond my programming skills... Still, I'll have another
> go. Maybe someone can indicate where to start looking?

Both your bugs are gtk-specific, so the files in src/hid/gtk/ are to
blame.

One thing to try is, whenever you get something that seems GUI
related, try the other gui (./configure --with-gui=lesstif).  That's
completely different code, and I actively maintain that one.  If it
acts differently, you know the problem is in the src/hid/* code.  If
it acts the same, the problem is in the src/* code.


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Re: gEDA-user: PCB woes

2007-10-24 Thread DJ Delorie

> Only, I wonder if someone uses the latest PCB (20070912) and it
> works for him/her? There are a lot of issues with cursor movements
> etc, which make it basically unusable. I've tried CVS, but it
> responds the same. I filed a bug against PCB, but, appart from a
> confirmation from another user reporting the same, I had no reaction
> to the report. (bugs 1796016 and 1796012 - though the last bug
> hasn't reappeared yet).

I hope everyone realizes that there are very few pcb developers.
Three or four active ones at the moment, I think.  And none of them
are Gtk experts.

> I've started to try and analyze how the program works, but it is
> somewhat beyond my programming skills... Still, I'll have another
> go. Maybe someone can indicate where to start looking?

Both your bugs are gtk-specific, so the files in src/hid/gtk/ are to
blame.


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gEDA-user: PCB woes

2007-10-24 Thread John Coppens
Hello all.

I don't want to sound unappreciative of all the work put into gEDA a
particularly in PCB, I do appreciate it.

Only, I wonder if someone uses the latest PCB (20070912) and it works for
him/her? There are a lot of issues with cursor movements etc, which make
it basically unusable. I've tried CVS, but it responds the same. I filed
a bug against PCB, but, appart from a confirmation from another user
reporting the same, I had no reaction to the report. (bugs 1796016 and
1796012 - though the last bug hasn't reappeared yet).

I've started to try and analyze how the program works, but it is somewhat
beyond my programming skills... Still, I'll have another go. Maybe someone
can indicate where to start looking?

Thanks,
John


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