Re: New graphical login manager wdm

2003-03-01 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Okay, I think I see now.  Wdm extends xdm to give you the ability to pick 
the window manager/desktop environment without the bloat of KDE or Gnome 
and xfce is a desktop environment.

Thank you.  I may look at wdm when I get my system hardware backup.

Collins wrote:

> On Thursday 20 February 2003 04:14 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
>> How does this fit in with xfce - aren't they both window managers?
>>
> 
> Sorry, I didn't completely answer your question.  Top posting always
> confuses me!
> 
> xfce is a window manager, but you can't use it to do graphical login
> management (run level 5 on most systems).
> 

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Re: New graphical login manager wdm

2003-02-22 Thread Collins
On Thursday 20 February 2003 07:26 pm, Kurt Wall wrote:
> Feigning erudition, Collins wrote:
> % FYI,
> %
> % A user on another group pointed out this package, and I like it.  Wdm is
> based % on xdm, but it allows you complete choice of Session type, reboot
> or % shutdown, etc. from the gui login panel.
> %
> % The home page is :  http://voins.program.ru/wdm/
> %
> % I'm using wdm-1.22 from a gentoo ebuild, but there is a bug in pam
> support % which the author will fix soon and release 1.22.1.  If you need
> his % workaround for 1.22, let me know.
> %
> % BTW, there is a gentoo ebuild for wdm, but it hasn't been released
> because of % work on the gentoo 1.4_final release.  If you need the ebuild,
> cf. gentoo % bugzilla #15660.
>
> Alas, it has a dependency on WindowMaker >= 0.17.5 for the WINGs and
> wraster libs and headers.

yes, it requires something called wraster libs that are supplied by wmaker.  
Fortunately, you only need to install, not run wmaker.

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Re: New graphical login manager wdm

2003-02-21 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
% How does this fit in with xfce - aren't they both window managers?

It's a display manager, like xdm, kdm, and gdm...

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Re: New graphical login manager wdm

2003-02-21 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, Collins wrote:
% FYI,
% 
% A user on another group pointed out this package, and I like it.  Wdm is based 
% on xdm, but it allows you complete choice of Session type, reboot or 
% shutdown, etc. from the gui login panel.
% 
% The home page is :  http://voins.program.ru/wdm/
% 
% I'm using wdm-1.22 from a gentoo ebuild, but there is a bug in pam support 
% which the author will fix soon and release 1.22.1.  If you need his 
% workaround for 1.22, let me know.
% 
% BTW, there is a gentoo ebuild for wdm, but it hasn't been released because of 
% work on the gentoo 1.4_final release.  If you need the ebuild, cf. gentoo 
% bugzilla #15660.

Alas, it has a dependency on WindowMaker >= 0.17.5 for the WINGs and 
wraster libs and headers.

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Re: New graphical login manager wdm

2003-02-21 Thread Collins
On Thursday 20 February 2003 05:50 pm, el lodger wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 05:11:41 -0700
>
> Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A user on another group pointed out this package, and I like it.  Wdm
> > is based on xdm, but it allows you complete choice of Session type,
> > reboot or shutdown, etc. from the gui login panel.
>
> Collins,
> I assume you don't use gnome since gdm does all that too.

Right, I don't, and I don't always use kde either. therefore I avoid kdm and 
gdm.  Wdm is a good solution for the user who wants to throw less in the way 
of resources into login/window management.

You can have a nice system with wdm plus xfce, blackbox, etc., etc. without 
waiting 3-40 seconds just to start a window manager.  It's academic to me at 
the moment, because I'm running KDE, but kdm has some sort of a bug (a qt 
flaw) that makes it take forever to start, so I've scrapped it in favor of 
wdm.

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Re: New graphical login manager wdm

2003-02-21 Thread el lodger
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 05:11:41 -0700
Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 
> A user on another group pointed out this package, and I like it.  Wdm
> is based on xdm, but it allows you complete choice of Session type,
> reboot or shutdown, etc. from the gui login panel.
Collins,
I assume you don't use gnome since gdm does all that too.
Roger 

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Re: New graphical login manager wdm

2003-02-20 Thread Collins
On Thursday 20 February 2003 04:14 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> How does this fit in with xfce - aren't they both window managers?
>

Sorry, I didn't completely answer your question.  Top posting always confuses 
me!

xfce is a window manager, but you can't use it to do graphical login 
management (run level 5 on most systems).

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Re: New graphical login manager wdm

2003-02-20 Thread Collins
On Thursday 20 February 2003 04:14 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> How does this fit in with xfce - aren't they both window managers?
>
> Collins wrote:
> > FYI,
> >
> > A user on another group pointed out this package, and I like it.  Wdm is
> > based on xdm, but it allows you complete choice of Session type, reboot
> > or shutdown, etc. from the gui login panel.
> >
> > The home page is :  http://voins.program.ru/wdm/
> >
> > I'm using wdm-1.22 from a gentoo ebuild, but there is a bug in pam
> > support which the author will fix soon and release 1.22.1.  If you need
> > his workaround for 1.22, let me know.
> >
> > BTW, there is a gentoo ebuild for wdm, but it hasn't been released
> > because of
> > work on the gentoo 1.4_final release.  If you need the ebuild, cf. gentoo
> > bugzilla #15660.
> >
> > Enjoy,

Confustion in terms - xdm wdm gdm kdm are graphical login managers that allow 
you to complete the login porcess and (either directly or under the covers) 
start your choice of window manager.  With xdm (much ligher weight than kdm 
or gdm) you only get the equivalent of a startx operation (i.e., you must 
have hard coded a window manager).   wdm supplies the missing functionality 
in xdm.  The advantage over kdm or gdm is that you don't have to install (and 
load) kde or gnome to get a flexible graphical login manager.
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Re: New graphical login manager wdm

2003-02-20 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
How does this fit in with xfce - aren't they both window managers?

Collins wrote:

> FYI,
> 
> A user on another group pointed out this package, and I like it.  Wdm is
> based on xdm, but it allows you complete choice of Session type, reboot or
> shutdown, etc. from the gui login panel.
> 
> The home page is :  http://voins.program.ru/wdm/
> 
> I'm using wdm-1.22 from a gentoo ebuild, but there is a bug in pam support
> which the author will fix soon and release 1.22.1.  If you need his
> workaround for 1.22, let me know.
> 
> BTW, there is a gentoo ebuild for wdm, but it hasn't been released because
> of
> work on the gentoo 1.4_final release.  If you need the ebuild, cf. gentoo
> bugzilla #15660.
> 
> Enjoy,

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