Re: MD: Digital protection ???

[David W. Tamkin]

Simon Gardner wrote,

| If you're recording in analogue, then the MD will be "11" or SCMS 
| restricted (ie. you can take a further copy). A subsequent digital copy of 
| that MD will be "10" or SCMS prohibited (ie. you can't record another copy 
| from it).

Simon, you read the DAT-Heads FAQ, didn't you?

Those numeric designations are for DAT.  MD uses the complements: 00 is
restricted, 01 is prohibited, and 11 and 10 are unrestricted.

CD is different yet: there is only one copy-protection bit per frame, and all
ones mean unrestricted, all zeroes mean prohibited (I may have those two re-
versed), and alternating ones and zeroes mean restricted.

Because the actual bit representations are different for different media,
I prefer the terms "SCMS-unlimited" for the settings that permit repeated
generations of recopying, "SCMS-penultimate" for that which allows only one
further generation, and "SCMS-final" for the uncopyable setting.

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MD: MDS-JB940 and Planet MiniDisc

[James T. Resinger]

I'd been moaning and groaning and grumbling about the seeming
unavailability of the MDS-JB940 since it was supposedly released.
Every day I popped on to the Crutchfield web site only to be greeted
by "out of stock." I read with envy the posts by the Brits who had
acquired *their* 940s, and I wondered whether I'd ever find one of my
own. I seemed to strike out everywhere I went.

Then a mention of Planet MiniDisc on the MD Community Page caused me
to check out their web site. After all, I'd done business with them
back in June of '98 when I bought my Sharp MD-X5. Much to my surprise,
they had the 940 "in stock now," which I confirmed via e-mail. I
phoned in my order, and Adam Heller at Planet MiniDisc assured me they
when they say "in stock," that's exactly what they mean. 

I am now the proud owner of the MDS-JB940, and I urge anyone who
hasn't found one to go to http://www.planetminidisc.com.


Jim Resinger
10/11/00
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MD: Sony mz-r70 agc...

[Brian]

Knowing not much about the functioning of the r70 during digital recording, is
AGC always 'on' when recording from a digital source 
unless the level is manually set? /me shivers with the thought of having to set
the level for every digital recording...

-brian
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Re: MD: Burmistrzowi - Rola Niemiec w sterowaniu demokracja

[J. Coon]

Is this about minidisc? 

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Re: MD: Sharp 722 / Mics?

[J. Coon]

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> I'm
> the guy recording live audio to accompany my photo slide shows) I still
> need to purchase binaural mics. At $950 the Core high end models are out
> of the question. How about the middle end Core's etc.? 

This one is pretty handy for a portable recorder.  YOu can't beat the
price.

http://www.tir.com/~liteways/Mandolin.html#Microphone


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Re: MD: ATRAC-R (HiFi)

[J. Coon]

Steve Corey wrote:
> 
> I was a die-hard uncompressed PCM DAT fan for years.  When MD's first
> came out, they sounded terrible, so I wrote off the format.  Then a
> person, whose ears I trusted, said that I should really check out the
> new MD's.  I was impressed, and now am the proud owner of a Sony
> MZR-90.  I absolutely love it.  Even though it has its share of annoying
> (endearing?) quirks.

Just be careful of the END SEARCH button. Use it even when you don't
need to, 'cause it will erase your Md faster than you can say bread and
butter.

> If you're looking for fidelity (faithfulness) I havn't come across a
> situation where MD has not been adequate.  I'm new to MD, however, so
> perhaps I'll stumble across something that will trip it up.  'Till then
> I'll happily continue "taping" with my MD.

There was one incident with a certain French horn solo on a Sharp 702
that was reproducible.  However, it disappeared when another instrument
was added to the mix, or a different sequence of notes was played.  Most
people would have missed the artifact if it hadn't been brought to their
attention.   

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Re: MD: MDLP Car head units

[Simon Gardner]

>Quick question.
>When are the mdlp head units from sony due out in the U.K and does anybody
>no if there compatible with the old cd multichangers.

As they go in yearly(ish) cycles and the 6500/8500 came out a couple of 
months ago, I'd say next summer at the earliest (have MDLP car units even 
been announced yet?).

With the CD changers, I don't think Sony have altered the multichanger 
connection in a while and have no need to for future ones. The 
uk.rec.audio.car and rec.audio.car newsgroups may be a better place to 
check though.

-- 
Simon

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Re: MD: Funky charging on the R900

[Ed Heckman]

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typing:

>The model number is BC-7HT.

Thanks for the lead. I bought a charger plus a spare battery from Planet 
Minidisc about 2 weeks ago. This let me use the two rechargeables to 
record all the sessions I was in at a conference last week. It really 
saved my butt.

Don't let the specs fool you, the R900 gets significantly less recording 
time on the rechargeable battery than 8 hours. I say only about 6 hours 
(or so) in LP4 mode. And playback time isn't that much better. (These 
estimates are based on the battery indicator in the display.)



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Re: MD: SCMS

[Keith Whitfield]

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Where Do you get the SCMS stripper from or do you build them yourself.
What price are they and are they the sort of thing you can get in
electronic/Audio shops if not wheres a good web site to buy from.

thanks
keith
On 05-Sep-00, you wrote:

> 
> Jeanmougin wrote,
> 
> But what will be the SCMS status of this new digital copy (unlimited copy
> or one
> generation allowed?)?
> 
> It might depend on your stripper. Mine makes the new digital copy
> "unlimited copy".
> It is very convenient. Having a SCMS stripper between my deck and my R-90
> has been a real upgrade. Great for re-organizing and consolidating music
> between MD's.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Leland
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Re: MD: Digital protection ???

[Simon Gardner]

>I have been reading about this copy protection & would like to no if I wass
>to record a mix off the radio and put the track markers in etc could I then
>copy ot to another MD digitally and keep the markers like when you record
>from a cd? I know I can't make copys from the copy.

If you're recording in analogue, then the MD will be "11" or SCMS 
restricted (ie. you can take a further copy). A subsequent digital copy of 
that MD will be "10" or SCMS prohibited (ie. you can't record another copy 
from it).

Short version: yes, it'll work from MD1 (radio->MD) to MD2 (MD->MD) and 
keep the trackmarks.

>If the above works could I also record from A LP2 md (My unit suports it) to
>standard stereo and keep markers etc.

Not sure but I'd assume that's the case as the LP players 
wouldn't/shouldn't do SCMS any differently.

hth,

-- 
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MD: MDLP Car head units

[Keith Whitfield]

Quick question.
When are the mdlp head units from sony due out in the U.K and does anybody
no if there compatible with the old cd multichangers.

Thanks again
keith

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MD: Digital protection ???

[Keith Whitfield]

Hi all
I have been reading about this copy protection & would like to no if I wass
to record a mix off the radio and put the track markers in etc could I then
copy ot to another MD digitally and keep the markers like when you record
from a cd? I know I can't make copys from the copy.

If the above works could I also record from A LP2 md (My unit suports it) to
standard stereo and keep markers etc.

Thanks
Keith

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Re: MD: Sharp 722 / Mics?

[Steve Corey]

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> need to purchase binaural mics. At $950 the Core high end models are out
> of the question. How about the middle end Core's etc.? Should I be

I have the middle end Core's.  They sound very good, and can handle very
high SPL's.  They are a bit noisy, however.  If they are noisier than
other manufacturers models, I couldn't tell you.  And of course, how
much noise is too much?  If you're out recording bird songs in a meadow,
they might be too noisy.

But they have a money back guarantee.  So I would say buy them and try
them.  If they don't suit your needs just send 'em back.

-steve
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Re: MD: ATRAC-R (HiFi)

[Steve Corey]

I was a die-hard uncompressed PCM DAT fan for years.  When MD's first
came out, they sounded terrible, so I wrote off the format.  Then a
person, whose ears I trusted, said that I should really check out the
new MD's.  I was impressed, and now am the proud owner of a Sony
MZR-90.  I absolutely love it.  Even though it has its share of annoying
(endearing?) quirks.

Now as for data-rate compression,  If you can't hear the difference,
what is the difference?  My PCM buddies take the attitude that even if
it's inaudible, all of the music should be recorded, for archiving
purposes, future improvements of playback, and on and on.  But 44.1 kHz
16 bit PCM cuts out the stuff you can't hear as well--Everything above
~20 kHz and below ~-90dB.  The difference in the formats is the amount
and type of information that they decide to throw away. 

So now 96 kHz 24 bit recording is on the scene.  I have heard very good
systems of that kind, better than 16 bit 44.1 (or 48) kHz systems. but
the question I have is, is the difference in quality due to the
increased sample rate and bit depth? or is it due to just the
improvement in the A-D converters, which would offer a similar
improvement in a 16 bit 44.1 system?  More testing is needed...

And what about the still raging Analog VS. Digital debate?  I'll only
say this:  If you put a warm, fat, punchy signal onto a high quality
digital system, you get out a warm, fat, punchy signal.  End of debate. 

The music recording industry is in an atrocious state of affairs because
there is no standard of reproduction systems.  At least the film
industry has standards, like THX, to get some uniformity in the
production process.  But if I take a recording to 15 different recording
or mastering studios, it'll sound different in each one.  There are so
many differing opinions about what is good sounding, the only opinion
that matters is yours.

Having said that, I think everyone should try to do comparison tests and
try to hear the flaws in MD, and CD and DAT, and DVD and on and on.  Try
to come up with an understanding of why people prefer one format over
another.

If you're looking for fidelity (faithfulness) I havn't come across a
situation where MD has not been adequate.  I'm new to MD, however, so
perhaps I'll stumble across something that will trip it up.  'Till then
I'll happily continue "taping" with my MD.

-steve

Fendlewood Walker wrote:
> 
> >"Fidelity" is an objective term.  It
> >means faithfulness.  Which means
> >that the what you hear is as close to
> >the original as possible.  It is true or
> >"faithful" to it.
> 
> Me being on the digest, this may've already been addressed, but just to
> continue in the hair-splitting vein:
> Some people striving for hi-fi are attempting to reproduce exactly what the
> recording engineer hears on his monitors in the studio.
> Some people are attempting to reproduce the live event.  Which is subtley
> different, and begs the flippant question - which seat? - because the
> listening environment overwhelms all else.
> Some people are trying to create the sound that pleases them most in their
> environment, a moderate and perhaps sensible approach given that none of us
> live in anechoic chambers.
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Re: MD: Re: MD recorder with timer

[mjw]

Hi,

You are talking about a mini-system. I was interested
in portable MD-recorders (which I failed to mention).
Even a cassette recorder with programmable start of
recording would do...
But thank you anyway.

Regards
MJ Wiechowski



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most of the mini-systems will do this although I think they
mainly have a progammable time only, (not date).  my 
sharp md-x5 has a programmable time for recording 
but since it is time only I have to set it within 24 hours
of the event.

regards,
david sowa

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> Hi,
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> Is there on the market a MD-recorder which could start
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> 
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Re: MD: MD recorder with timer

[Steve Corey]

In the absence of any other solution, I suppose you could get a MD
recorder that has a "synchro-start" feature-- It won't record until it
receives a digital signal.  Then hook it up to your computer with a
digital output, and use the various timer functions on your computer to
start record/playback software.  

-steve


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Re: MD: MD recorder with timer

[David Sowa]

most of the mini-systems will do this although I think they
mainly have a progammable time only, (not date).  my 
sharp md-x5 has a programmable time for recording 
but since it is time only I have to set it within 24 hours
of the event.

regards,
david sowa

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Re: MD: Sharp 722 / Mics?

[Ed Heckman]

At 10/11/00 7:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] increased the world's knowledge 
by typing:

>I need reasonable frequency
>response and dynamic range to record this without break-up, but most
>loud sounds will be fleeting, unlike a continuous loud concert. I'd say
>$300 at the very most I'd be willing to budget. I suppose I'll need the
>battery box and use the line input? Any suggestions?

I bought a Sony ECM-MS957 about 2 weeks ago from Globe Mart 
 for about $228. I've been very impressed 
with it. You can check out the specs at Sony's web site 
 and see if it meets your needs.



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Re: MD: Re: Dac sie wydupcyc dla idei

[mjw]

Pyta p. Piotr:

> Niepomny grozby otrzymania wiachy wulgaryzmow pytam:
> Czy chce Pan "odkundlac" go sila?

Mam powiedziec szczerze?

Chcialbym sie ktoregos dnia obudzic i zapomniec, ze jestem
Polakiem. Miec to wszystko z glowy. Zajac sie czyms innym.


> Czy odciecie tluszczy od propagandy np. niemieckiej spowoduje, ze
> stanie sie ona Narodem?

Nie wiem. Wiem jednak, ze obecnosc propagandy niemieckiej
i zydowskiej proces stawania sie narodem znacznie utrudnia.


> Moim zdaniem ludzi nie nalezy odcinac od propagandy, lecz ich
> od niej uodparniac.

Panie Piotrze, ma Pan do dyspozycji 1000 zl na kontrpropagande
wobec przeciwnika, ktory dysponuje dziesiatkami i setkami
milionow. Jakie ma Pan szanse? Takie, jak Lopuszanski przeciwko
Sztolcmanowi.

mjw

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Re: MD: Burmistrzowi - Rola Niemiec w sterowaniu demokracja

[mjw]

c> A czy teraz nie moze byc "wynajety" przez oscienne mocarstwo?

c> pozdrawiam
c> piotr

> Moze, patrz Balcerowicz jedzie do Gruzji

Gorzej byloby, gdyby pojechal do Niemiec, Izraela lub Rosji.

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MD: Sharp 722 / Mics?

[markaren]

Thanks to the help I received here, I purchased the Sharp MS722. ( I'm
the guy recording live audio to accompany my photo slide shows) I still
need to purchase binaural mics. At $950 the Core high end models are out
of the question. How about the middle end Core's etc.? Should I be
looking at other mfgrs models? The loudest sounds I would be
recording..possibly a train passing buy, busy traffic,
thunderstorms, or a jet flying overhead. I need reasonable frequency
response and dynamic range to record this without break-up, but most
loud sounds will be fleeting, unlike a continuous loud concert. I'd say
$300 at the very most I'd be willing to budget. I suppose I'll need the
battery box and use the line input? Any suggestions? Thanks again.
Mark Dottle  


http://community.webtv.net/markaren/USVIEWSExchangeFolio

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Re: MD: MD recorder with timer

[J. Coon]

I believe the Sony Decks will do that.  I know my 510 would and so will
my 520.
They don't havea built in timer, you have to get the timer separate. 
YOu set it to timer mode, plug it into the timer, set the timer and when
it turns on, it will start recording.

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MD: MD recorder with timer

[mjw]

Hi,

Is there on the market a MD-recorder which could start
recording at a preprogrammed date/time ?

Kind regards
MJ Wiechowski
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