Re: SGI's
On Sunday 12 March 2006 04.48, Jason Crawford wrote: > On 3/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 11:51:24 -0500, "Jason Crawford" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >I am soon going to be getting an Octane with dual R12000SC CPUs. I was > > >wondering how well OpenBSD would work on this computer (I am pretty > > >sure there isn't SMP support on the SGI stuff yet) and how much help > > >is needed in getting the SGI port to work even better. > > > > > >Jason > > > > Hi Jason, > > > > Octane support is a "planned project" but currently there is no support > > for Octane as far as I know. > > > > The only currently supported model is the SGI O2. The "little blue > > toaster" O2 systems are a lot of fun and amazingly quick when they have > > lots of RAM. When you stuff them full of RAM, they just scream, moreso > > than any other arch I've used. > > > > I've got a few O2 systems over here but I haven't touched the for months > > and haven't used them with OpenBSD since 3.6/3.7. Even with the earlier > > OpenBSD releases, once you get past the SGI-isms, they work very well. > > Well on the OpenBSD sgi page, it says that the R12000 CPUs are > supported. Is it some other piece of hardware like disk controller or > something that prevents OpenBSD from running on an Octane? > IIRC the Octane is a little messy wrt how the "glue" chips are designed. The major uphill task with porting to SGI is the lack of HW documentation. However, there is a Linux port for the Octane which may be used as a source of information. Now... someone need to spend time doing the work. Regretfully i have been to busy with to many other things to even have had time to look at an SGI for several months. But if anyone else want to dig in i will be more than happy to help by answering questions etc. Per
Re: SGI's
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 22:48:39 -0500, "Jason Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've got a few O2 systems over here but I haven't touched the for months >> and haven't used them with OpenBSD since 3.6/3.7. Even with the earlier >> OpenBSD releases, once you get past the SGI-isms, they work very well. > >Well on the OpenBSD sgi page, it says that the R12000 CPUs are >supported. Is it some other piece of hardware like disk controller or >something that prevents OpenBSD from running on an Octane? (Yoda Voice) "A processor the system makes not." (/Yoda Voice) The short, generic answer is architecture support is a matter of supporting the processor _AND_ all of the other chipsets used in the complete system design. Having software support for those "little" things like all the various buses is generally required to have a working system. If you're unable to talk to the memory controller or PCI bus controller or some other vital piece of hardware, being able to *just* compile code for a particular processor is not going to do you much good. You can sometimes get away with not supporting things that are not vital to system operation (e.g. not supporting the floppy drive on some alpha systems) but there's a lot of stuff besides just the processor that must be supported for a system to work. kind regards, jcr
Re: SGI's
On 3/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 11:51:24 -0500, "Jason Crawford" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I am soon going to be getting an Octane with dual R12000SC CPUs. I was > >wondering how well OpenBSD would work on this computer (I am pretty > >sure there isn't SMP support on the SGI stuff yet) and how much help > >is needed in getting the SGI port to work even better. > > > >Jason > > Hi Jason, > > Octane support is a "planned project" but currently there is no support > for Octane as far as I know. > > The only currently supported model is the SGI O2. The "little blue > toaster" O2 systems are a lot of fun and amazingly quick when they have > lots of RAM. When you stuff them full of RAM, they just scream, moreso > than any other arch I've used. > > I've got a few O2 systems over here but I haven't touched the for months > and haven't used them with OpenBSD since 3.6/3.7. Even with the earlier > OpenBSD releases, once you get past the SGI-isms, they work very well. Well on the OpenBSD sgi page, it says that the R12000 CPUs are supported. Is it some other piece of hardware like disk controller or something that prevents OpenBSD from running on an Octane? Jason
Re: SGI's
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 11:51:24 -0500, "Jason Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am soon going to be getting an Octane with dual R12000SC CPUs. I was >wondering how well OpenBSD would work on this computer (I am pretty >sure there isn't SMP support on the SGI stuff yet) and how much help >is needed in getting the SGI port to work even better. > >Jason Hi Jason, Octane support is a "planned project" but currently there is no support for Octane as far as I know. The only currently supported model is the SGI O2. The "little blue toaster" O2 systems are a lot of fun and amazingly quick when they have lots of RAM. When you stuff them full of RAM, they just scream, moreso than any other arch I've used. I've got a few O2 systems over here but I haven't touched the for months and haven't used them with OpenBSD since 3.6/3.7. Even with the earlier OpenBSD releases, once you get past the SGI-isms, they work very well. Kind Regards, JCR
Re: SGI's
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:21:55 -0800 "Roger Neth Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Roger Neth Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mar 11, 2006 10:19 AM > Subject: Re: SGI's > To: Jason Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On 3/11/06, Jason Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/11/06, Roger Neth Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 3/11/06, Jason Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I am soon going to be getting an Octane with dual R12000SC CPUs. I was > > > > wondering how well OpenBSD would work on this computer (I am pretty > > > > sure there isn't SMP support on the SGI stuff yet) and how much help > > > > is needed in getting the SGI port to work even better. > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I setup an SGI 02 with 3.8 last year and runs without a > > > problem. The only problem I had was understanding the SGI boot methods > > > and partitions. Once I understood that no problem. > > > > > > As far as I know there isn't any X yet and I connect serially. I think > > > X is being worked on. > > > > Serial would be best for me, the SGI monitor I have is like 21+ > > inches. I am pretty excited about trying this out, mips is one of the > > archs I don't have much experience with yet (some basic IRIX admin > > before, but that's it), so when I found one I thought I'd add it to my > > already somewhat large personal collection of differnet archs. I just > > wish I had a second one I could donate to the OpenBSD guys (SMP > > support would kick ass). > > > > Jason > > > > Last year I put OpenBSD on Sun Sparc (web server), DEC Alpha > (firewall), plethora of i386's (laptops & desktops), one SMP on IBM > x220 P3 (test machine). > > I would like to use OpenBSD with world wide missionaries as it is easy > to setup and use, especially on older hardware. I anticipate that with > Microsoft Vista coming out there will be a lot of old hardware > available for OpenBSD. : ) > > OpenBSD just keeps getting better and better all the time. Which > reminds me to pre-order my CD's and t-shirt. > > rogern > > John 3:16 Hi there Past few years (in fact since 2.6) i installed OpenBSD on several arches such as sparc 'n sparc 64 Dec Alpha 'n decstation even old 68k macs and i really love to have the same OS on these . Only my old powermac and my old indy are still running under the vendor operating system . Except this fairly old pc , all the computers i use are running OpenBSD. That's why each time i can ... i donate ... ~~ http://www.chatou-informatic.com Maintenance, infogerance, interventions sur site, telemaintenance
SGI's
-- Forwarded message -- From: Roger Neth Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mar 11, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: Re: SGI's To: Jason Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 3/11/06, Jason Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/11/06, Roger Neth Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/11/06, Jason Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am soon going to be getting an Octane with dual R12000SC CPUs. I was > > > wondering how well OpenBSD would work on this computer (I am pretty > > > sure there isn't SMP support on the SGI stuff yet) and how much help > > > is needed in getting the SGI port to work even better. > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I setup an SGI 02 with 3.8 last year and runs without a > > problem. The only problem I had was understanding the SGI boot methods > > and partitions. Once I understood that no problem. > > > > As far as I know there isn't any X yet and I connect serially. I think > > X is being worked on. > > Serial would be best for me, the SGI monitor I have is like 21+ > inches. I am pretty excited about trying this out, mips is one of the > archs I don't have much experience with yet (some basic IRIX admin > before, but that's it), so when I found one I thought I'd add it to my > already somewhat large personal collection of differnet archs. I just > wish I had a second one I could donate to the OpenBSD guys (SMP > support would kick ass). > > Jason > Last year I put OpenBSD on Sun Sparc (web server), DEC Alpha (firewall), plethora of i386's (laptops & desktops), one SMP on IBM x220 P3 (test machine). I would like to use OpenBSD with world wide missionaries as it is easy to setup and use, especially on older hardware. I anticipate that with Microsoft Vista coming out there will be a lot of old hardware available for OpenBSD. : ) OpenBSD just keeps getting better and better all the time. Which reminds me to pre-order my CD's and t-shirt. rogern John 3:16
Re: SGI's
On 3/11/06, Jason Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/11/06, Roger Neth Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/11/06, Jason Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 3/11/06, Roger Neth Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 3/11/06, Jason Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I am soon going to be getting an Octane with dual R12000SC CPUs. I was > > > > > wondering how well OpenBSD would work on this computer (I am pretty > > > > > sure there isn't SMP support on the SGI stuff yet) and how much help > > > > > is needed in getting the SGI port to work even better. > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I setup an SGI 02 with 3.8 last year and runs without a > > > > problem. The only problem I had was understanding the SGI boot methods > > > > and partitions. Once I understood that no problem. > > > > > > > > As far as I know there isn't any X yet and I connect serially. I think > > > > X is being worked on. > > > > > > Serial would be best for me, the SGI monitor I have is like 21+ > > > inches. I am pretty excited about trying this out, mips is one of the > > > archs I don't have much experience with yet (some basic IRIX admin > > > before, but that's it), so when I found one I thought I'd add it to my > > > already somewhat large personal collection of differnet archs. I just > > > wish I had a second one I could donate to the OpenBSD guys (SMP > > > support would kick ass). > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > Last year I put OpenBSD on Sun Sparc (web server), DEC Alpha > > (firewall), plethora of i386's (laptops & desktops), one SMP on IBM > > x220 P3 (test machine). > > > > I would like to use OpenBSD with world wide missionaries as it is easy > > to setup and use, especially on older hardware. I anticipate that with > > Microsoft Vista coming out there will be a lot of old hardware > > available for OpenBSD. : ) > > > > OpenBSD just keeps getting better and better all the time. Which > > reminds me to pre-order my CD's and t-shirt. > > Yeah I put it just about everywhere, and use it at work. My personal > collection of archs is now at: x86, sparc, sparc64, sgi, hppa, hp300, > alpha, and an old mac68k somewhere. Already pre-ordered my CD's, I > just wish they had SGI and Alpha on them. I might be able to get a > commador 64 at some point, but I think my fiance is going to shoot me > if I bring another computer home. > > Jason > LOL, I know what you mean about all the computers. I am thankful that I have an office and the power bill is part of the monthly rent. I promised my Father in Heaven I was not going to buy any more computers! And I haven't! Best regards, rogern Job 23:10
Re: SGI's
On 3/11/06, Roger Neth Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/11/06, Jason Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am soon going to be getting an Octane with dual R12000SC CPUs. I was > > wondering how well OpenBSD would work on this computer (I am pretty > > sure there isn't SMP support on the SGI stuff yet) and how much help > > is needed in getting the SGI port to work even better. > > > > Jason > > > > > > Hello, I setup an SGI 02 with 3.8 last year and runs without a > problem. The only problem I had was understanding the SGI boot methods > and partitions. Once I understood that no problem. > > As far as I know there isn't any X yet and I connect serially. I think > X is being worked on. Serial would be best for me, the SGI monitor I have is like 21+ inches. I am pretty excited about trying this out, mips is one of the archs I don't have much experience with yet (some basic IRIX admin before, but that's it), so when I found one I thought I'd add it to my already somewhat large personal collection of differnet archs. I just wish I had a second one I could donate to the OpenBSD guys (SMP support would kick ass). Jason
Re: SGI's
On 3/11/06, Jason Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am soon going to be getting an Octane with dual R12000SC CPUs. I was > wondering how well OpenBSD would work on this computer (I am pretty > sure there isn't SMP support on the SGI stuff yet) and how much help > is needed in getting the SGI port to work even better. > > Jason > > Hello, I setup an SGI 02 with 3.8 last year and runs without a problem. The only problem I had was understanding the SGI boot methods and partitions. Once I understood that no problem. As far as I know there isn't any X yet and I connect serially. I think X is being worked on. rogern Romans 6:23
SGI's
I am soon going to be getting an Octane with dual R12000SC CPUs. I was wondering how well OpenBSD would work on this computer (I am pretty sure there isn't SMP support on the SGI stuff yet) and how much help is needed in getting the SGI port to work even better. Jason
