Re: [newbie] microsoft hassling Aussie Charity.
Making "donations" to charity (either made by Microsoft or by The Bill and
Melinda Gates Foundation) is the best way for M$ to simultaneously create
good PR and gain new customers and revenue. Remember, software costs
basically nothing once its created. What people pay to buy software will
cover production costs (i.e. pay developers, etc.) and make the company a
tidy profit.
M$ can give away, say, 100 copies of Windos to a school. If the retail cost
of each copy of Windos is $100 then M$ can say that they gave 100 x $100 =
$10,000 worth of software to that school. In reality, since M$ _owns_ the
software, the real cost to them is the cost of the media and the cost to
print licenses. This would easily be less than $US 1 per copy, since they
mass-produce the stuff.
Now what about the hardware they donate? Doesn't M$ lose money on that? Well
they do, initially. Hardware is obviously needed for software to run, and
these poor schools cannot afford to buy any of this stuff on their own. M$
provide the hardware and the software, and make sure that the computers are
used in a productive way in the school so that they become indespensible. Now
what happens when a new version of Windos or M$ Office comes out? The schools
now feel compelled to upgrade their systems to the latest and greatest. After
all, there's no point in teaching children old technology, is there? This of
course costs money, something which these schools don't have very much of. M$
then make a profit by charging exhorbitant rates (even "educational" prices
are ridiculous) to upgrade the systems to the new software. Often, especially
in M$-Land, new software requires new hardware, so M$'s hardware partners
benefit. A computer network obviously needs administration and maintenance,
so the school must hire someone, preferably with an MCSE, to do the job.
Of course, in the centre of this are the impressionable minds of
schoolchildren. They learn at school (often indirectly) that M$ products are
good and that M$ is a nice company because it gave them the opportunity to
use computers at school (by donating them). When they go home, they convince
their parents and family friends that M$ products are good, and so they buy a
Windos computer for themselves, complete with M$ applications. And so the
cycle contuinues. The users grow used to M$ products and as a result do
not have any wish to change to something better. If they ever use something
else they just get annoyed that it isn't Windows (i.e. it doesn't behave
_exactly_ like Windows).
Anyway, I'll cut my rant there. I'm sure you all get my point.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:16, Lanman wrote:
> Here's an extra FYI for anyone following this thread. I heard somewhere
> that Bill Gates and his wife were involved in a charity that gives
> computers to kids in schools. You'd think that Bill would jump at the
> chance of getting some good PR for a change, and help these schools. He can
> certainly afford it! Good tax write-off too. Oh, well, maybe the whole
> thing was a PR sham on his part ! HHm!
>
> Dan LaBine
>
> On July 18, 2001 06:45 am, you wrote:
> > At 02:32 AM 7/16/01 +1000, you wrote:
> > >This is about a *charity* that is giving computers to *poor* people.
> > > Chances are that these people have hardly ever touched a computer,
> > > leave alone owning one (no insensitivity intended). Do you think they
> > > can afford a copy of
> >
> > Gotta add to this as this is a subject dear to my heart.
> >
> > I recall reading/hearing somewhere that these _donated_ computers come
> > from the donors (typically large companies) with Windblows already
> > installed. Now I'm not sure of the fine print but haven't the donor
> > companies _already_ paid for the licence ?
> >
> > Thus MS is effectively asking for payment twice for the same piece of
> > software. Most business I know realise that once you have paid for an
> > item _once_ you own it (case in point : when you buy pavers for your
> > house and then you sell your house, Boral doesn't expect the new owner to
> > pay for the pavers a second time).
> >
> > Couldn't the donor companies just sign a bit of paper saying "donated -
> > one old computer complete with windows installed" ?
> >
> > Or is M$ a special case ??
> >
> > Once again M$ have led the field in the ever increasing race to screw
> > everyone. Starting with the people who can _least_ afford it.
> >
> > It's a bloody charity M$ need to give a little and just say
> > "naughty. We won't take it any further, if you just stop doing
> > it". Alternatively they could get a heart and allow the charity to
> > install win95 on machines that _dont_ come pre-loaded (remember these are
> > old machines so they probably won't run 2000/XP) subject to a 'cap' of
> > {say} 200 a year.
> >
> > Alternatively, the charity could be innundated with offers of support
> > from the linux community asking if they have considered linux / open
> > office. And point
Re: [newbie] bpermissions
There are some files and directories in /etc that only the root user is allowed to view. This is for security. If you want to back up /etc you should so so as root (just su to root from a console, or open a file manager in root mode). On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:51, Colin Jenkins wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to back up my /etc/ from a win98 box but some files get > copied and others don't. Is this just a matter of setting permissions? > if so what do I change them to. > thanks -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] imwheel = no mouse
Thanks Sevatio! I feel like a right dork! I switched mice (plugged in the cordless Intellimouse), flicked the switches on both the mouse and its receiver, and it went haywire again (flickering along the top of the screen). I then rebooted the computer, and whaddayaknow? BINGO, I now have a mouse and scroll wheel! Why I didn't try switching the buttons before, I'll never know. Another problem solved. Thanks again. Cheers skinky - Original Message - From: "Sevatio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "skinky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] imwheel = no mouse Sorry, I just caught the tail end of this thread... You mention that you're having trouble with your cordless intellimouse. It should behave just like a regular mouse with a wheel. Have you tried pressing the "Connect" button on the mouse and its receiver? Or, if you have Windows installed, does the cordless mouse work there? Sevatio >> Original Message << On 7/17/01, 3:12:43 PM, "skinky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding [newbie] imwheel = no mouse: Thanks...: > To Charles and Siro > Thanks for your help. Just getting to a terminal without a mouse was great! > I didn't uninstall imwheel but as Charles suggested, I ran mousedrake and > reconfigured my standard PS/2 mouse which is now working fine again. Had > another go at trying to get the cordless intellimouse to work but no luck > yet. At least I can use my std mouse in the meantime. I'll get around to > the intellimouse someday ;-). Meanwhile, I just want to get to know > Mandrake and learn more console commands. > Thanks again. > Cheers > skinky _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] RPM failures NOW: K. I. S.= S
Hi Sridhar & folks, On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:39, you manipulated electrons to produce: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:01, John Rigby wrote: > > Hi Sridhar & folks, > > > > Well put, Sidhar, but missing the key point: > > "Use" as distinct from "support." > > I would argue that GNU/Linux has _better_ support than does > Windows. There are far more fora for GNU/Linux such as this list > and web sites like MandrakeForum.com. With Windows, the main way to > get support is to pay for it (and you pay through the nose). In > GNU/Linux, you can either pay someone like MandrakeSoft or > LinuxCare for support or get free support as I have just mentioned. I meant at the "interface". What the user wants/needs is my old Menu.- or today's equivalent. The support capability of the *ux command line is phenomenally better than M$ product. But there is confusion out there in *directions* in Linuxland. It is extremely hard to write a training manual for someone totally alien. I went knutz doing it in places where the locals used to steal lightbulbs and nail them to rafters and wait for them to light up and the next day we had to teach them how to maintain Caterpillar Dozers ( the other Dozers!) The user of today - the target market has not changed: 1.He/she wants to get on the internet. ( Why comes later) 2. He wants to write a letter 3. She wants a *simple* accounts pack 4. He wants some games 5. Most of all he wants to send emails. He does not want to be told: "Oh you want a printer now do you?" "Oh you want a cable for it, now?" Remember, the vast mass of prospects out there do not even realise that you need a separate Printer. I spent years running a regional internet help group and was never dismayed when people would ring me up and say they "bought a computer and the guy came and plugged it in, but now tells me I need a printer and a modem and a phone line for it all!!" Some people think it works like a tv/phone - you just start it up and talk into it and see pictures. Most common complaint? "You mean I gotta learn to type, too?" ** Adam Osborne sent me a Hard Disk for all the help I gave them with my Menu. It was the talk of the town! Worth about $10,000 in todays dollars. > Osborne! Now there's a company that brings back memories! I almost > bought a machine from them back in 1994. After numerous delivery > delays, I cancelled my order and got my money back -- only about a > month before they went bust for good (and were later bought by > Gateway). I think the most innovative thing they came up with was > their portable computer -- AFAIK the first production portable > computer ever built. ** Actually the BIG thing was that it was the first machine to come with bundled Software. It could actually work straight out of the box! He went broke from honesty! He announced that the new model was going to come out in 3 months with an amazing number of extras. So... everyone cancelled their orders and waited. It was manufacturing problems and lack of marketing knowhow that did him in. But it was not understanding marketing that finished him off. >> Internet years) for momentum to build. Despite this, look at all > the progress we've made. in general) has taken great strides on > the desktop in recent years, and has continued to outpace its > closed-source competition. It is only a matter of time before it > becomes useable by all (if it isn't already). *** Oh, it is already!! The thing people keep missing is that Doze comes PRE-INSTALLED. It invariably used to come with Microsoft Works. All the hassles happened with the suckers that were selling the things! My aim is to help make it easier. My advice to Linux world is simple: Stop selling the software! Start selling INEXPENSIVE solutions that ACTUALLY WORK. Unless the box is sold directly with a standardised package running on it, Big Bill *will* win. BUT for the upgraders from Doze - and this is the main market for now - what is needed is a SIMPLE standardised Distro without millions of options. There should be ONE suite coming from Mandrake as an ENTRY LEVEL PAK 1 Browser 1. Office Suite 1. Set of known Utilities NO SERVER STUFF AT ALL. Easy! Easy for everyone concerned. John
Re: [newbie] MDK 8.0 Frequent update and NVIDIA drivers
Just reinstall them (tarballs) and edit your xf86config-4 file again. Anytime you change the kernel, you have to redo the nvidia drivers. They are still compatible, or at least I've read they are (don't know from personal experience). -s On Wednesday 18 July 2001 11:31 pm, you wrote: > I just dl'd and applied the 2 disks for the 8.0 frequent update. > > XFree86 is now at version 4.1. I see that the XF86Config-4 file is using > the NV driver rather than the NVIDIA that I had downloaded from the NVIDIA > website and installed. > > Is the driver from the NVIDIA website compatible with version 4.1 of X? > > If so, I assume I need to download the packages for the video driver and go > through the full install process again. Is this correct or can I just > update the config to use the existing driver? I am guessing this won't > work because I have to apply the kernal patches to the kernal that was > updated when applied the frequent update cd's
Re: [newbie] How do I change the refresh rate of my monitor?
It was Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:15:24 -0700 (PDT) when Jim Lynch wrote: You might try xvidtune for this. Paul >I don't see an option for this in Mandrake Control >Center in the X Control. > >Any other way I can do this? The refresh rate should >be higher for this monitor. > >Thanks in advance if you can help me. -- Learning without thought is labor lost; thought without learning is perilous. -Confucius http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.1 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
[newbie] MDK 8.0 Frequent update and NVIDIA drivers
I just dl'd and applied the 2 disks for the 8.0 frequent update. XFree86 is now at version 4.1. I see that the XF86Config-4 file is using the NV driver rather than the NVIDIA that I had downloaded from the NVIDIA website and installed. Is the driver from the NVIDIA website compatible with version 4.1 of X? If so, I assume I need to download the packages for the video driver and go through the full install process again. Is this correct or can I just update the config to use the existing driver? I am guessing this won't work because I have to apply the kernal patches to the kernal that was updated when applied the frequent update cd's
[newbie] Request for Mandrake bosses..
Hi all, I would like to make a request.. Dialup seems to be a constant problem that is always popping up on this list... I suggest that mandrake still offer redhats netcfg as it is better for unusual configs then the mandrake install.. I have tried the mandrake tools before, and ended up with a broken dialup and ethernet setup... (I won't get this email from the list because my dialup isn't working on my mail server.) I have a static IP dialup, I use masquarading without dynamic IP, (I like to set the boxs manually so when I ping a box, I know which one it is..) mandrakes tools don't like working with that sort of setup.. Linuxconf (in mandrake at least is clagged for ppp and I don't even think ppp is enabled in mdk 8 linuxconf) so if you have a slightly unusual setup (and many of us do) then you have to write the scripts manually.. thats not to good for what is the easiest linux distro... Since the tool is free, open source, and already in existance.. why not change it to suit mandrake and make it available online.. I downloaded the src rpm from redhat, and built it,, then installed it, and it will edit everything bar dialup,,, Its so annoying because in all the redhat installs in the past, the dialup was always a piece of cake to setup... In this respect Redhat cains mandrake into oblivion. (although in nearly everything else the reverse is true.) If anyone has a comment on this they could like me to receive please add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the emails. I won't get any until the mail server is rebuilt. regards Frank
Re: [newbie] Which program is Mandrake using for web demos?
> > I'm interesting in creating additional Linux demos. Does any one know > > what Mandrake is using to create their demos for their web page? Not sure what Mandrake uses but there is a program out there called viewlet builder that looks pretty kewl. It has several demos you can use and watch also. You can get a free version at this site: http://www.qarbon.com/ I couldn't figure out how execute it after I installed it but maybe you would have better luck. If you figure it out let me know.
Re: [newbie] Transferring files from Windoze drives to Mandrake NOW Mounting 2nd CD
Hi Civileme, Have responded to part of this in other post. Interesting how it all happens, what?? :-) On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 02:00, you manipulated electrons to produce: > On Wednesday 18 July 2001 12:36, John Rigby wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > Can't see how to do this: > > Gnome automatically recognises my Doze Drives but K does not. > > How do we make (preferably under the GUI like Gnome) K recognise > > them? I need to attach some from them as email files. > > Either you haves a very corrupt install insofar as KDE is concerned > or you are just unfamiliar with the desktop. * see other answer. All about "missing" Settings > > There should be icons on the K desktop which say mnt win_c or > similar. Clicking on those brings up Konqueror in filemanager mode > and you can click and drag between systems * no. only under Gnome are they there. > > For email attachments click on Attach in the top textbar of Kmail > and then use the drop-down bar to navigate to Root Directory (/) > and then open the folder /mnt and then the one win_c or win_d or > whatever and continue to navigate the folders till you get to your > winmail. *** Talk about a looong way down! The key here is for Newbies that many of these "simple" functions are simply not readily noted anywhere - like my problem with the K Browser. Have a look at the Search function in KDE Help. I still can't figure it out. It simply doesn't seem to do anything. > > Within the next two releases, there will likely be an import to > bring across your Outlook files. *** Everyone keeps saying "outlook" but very few people use outlook - they use Outlook Express. The masses, that is :-) > > If you do NOT have the winfolders on your K desktop then > right-click on any vacant area of the screen and select create new > and enter a URL of the form file:/mnt/win_c then right click on > the icon made and browse the icons for a hard disk icon. Not only not, but I have 2 CD's. According to Control Centre, 3 . It identified both correctly as a Sony and a Ricoh Writer, but then adds a copy to the Ricoh as a SCssi device. Not true. However, any attermpt to add another icon on the desk results in a warning about overwriting the one there and won't add the second device. I can pick and choose which one easily - but it only allows one. > > Civileme -- Cheers, John Fablor now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it's only an Autoresponder) :-)
Re: [newbie] Looking for SquidGuard rpm for LM8.0
Roman; I haven't seen one for LM 8.0, only for Mandrake SNF, and that's a version of 7.2. Maybe you can pull it off of SNF ?? Dan LaBine On July 18, 2001 08:20 pm, you wrote: > Has any one heard of an available rpm for SquidGuard? So far, I've only > been able to find the tar ball version. > > > Roman > Registered Linux User #179293 > "su is not the root of your problem > but the start of a new journey"
Re: [newbie] microsoft hassling Aussie Charity.
Here's an extra FYI for anyone following this thread. I heard somewhere that
Bill Gates and his wife were involved in a charity that gives computers to
kids in schools. You'd think that Bill would jump at the chance of getting
some good PR for a change, and help these schools. He can certainly afford
it! Good tax write-off too. Oh, well, maybe the whole thing was a PR sham on
his part ! HHm!
Dan LaBine
On July 18, 2001 06:45 am, you wrote:
> At 02:32 AM 7/16/01 +1000, you wrote:
> >This is about a *charity* that is giving computers to *poor* people.
> > Chances are that these people have hardly ever touched a computer, leave
> > alone owning one (no insensitivity intended). Do you think they can
> > afford a copy of
>
> Gotta add to this as this is a subject dear to my heart.
>
> I recall reading/hearing somewhere that these _donated_ computers come from
> the donors (typically large companies) with Windblows already
> installed. Now I'm not sure of the fine print but haven't the donor
> companies _already_ paid for the licence ?
>
> Thus MS is effectively asking for payment twice for the same piece of
> software. Most business I know realise that once you have paid for an item
> _once_ you own it (case in point : when you buy pavers for your house and
> then you sell your house, Boral doesn't expect the new owner to pay for the
> pavers a second time).
>
> Couldn't the donor companies just sign a bit of paper saying "donated - one
> old computer complete with windows installed" ?
>
> Or is M$ a special case ??
>
> Once again M$ have led the field in the ever increasing race to screw
> everyone. Starting with the people who can _least_ afford it.
>
> It's a bloody charity M$ need to give a little and just say
> "naughty. We won't take it any further, if you just stop doing
> it". Alternatively they could get a heart and allow the charity to install
> win95 on machines that _dont_ come pre-loaded (remember these are old
> machines so they probably won't run 2000/XP) subject to a 'cap' of {say}
> 200 a year.
>
> Alternatively, the charity could be innundated with offers of support from
> the linux community asking if they have considered linux / open
> office. And pointing out that the support offered by mailing lists is very
> good...
>
> Possibly even the local linux users could come and offer to "hand hold"
> through the first couple of installs.
>
> Now where was this charity located again ??
Re: [newbie] Which program is Mandrake using for web demos?
They are just animated GIF files. Could they be done with a simple screen capture programme? I know both GNOME and KDE have applets designed to do this, and The GIMP can do this as well. KDE 2.2 (IIRC) will have a feature where you can press your Print Screen key and capture your desktop to the clipboard, and Ctrl-Print Screen will capture the current window. On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:17, Romanator wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm interesting in creating additional Linux demos. Does any one know > what Mandrake is using to create their demos for their web page? > > > Roman > Registered Linux User #179293 > "su is not the root of your problem > but the start of a new journey" -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Looking for SquidGuard rpm for LM8.0
http://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=squidguard On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:20, Romanator wrote: > Has any one heard of an available rpm for SquidGuard? So far, I've only > been able to find the tar ball version. > > > Roman > Registered Linux User #179293 > "su is not the root of your problem > but the start of a new journey" -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] microsoft hassling Aussie Charity.
Many of these computers have been donated by companies. These companies buy
licenses, not CDs. In other words, they may have only one CD even though
they've installed on multiple machines. This is a common way to keep
licensing fees down.
This can create a major problem because the new owner of the machine does not
have a CD. Another major problem with pre-installing Windos on machines
intended for charity is that the recipients are not going to be able to
afford to upgrade once new versions of software are released. Open source
software can alleviate this concern.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 11:44, Miark wrote:
> I'm not a lawyer, but I think the charity would still be
> responsible to pay unless the M$ install CDs were included
> with the donated computers (unlikely, but who knows?).
>
> I don't know why the donors wouldn't give 'em the CDs too,
> though; any replacement they bought would probably already
> come with its own copy of Winsux.
>
> Miark
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Paul Clyne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 4:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] microsoft hassling Aussie Charity.
>
> > At 02:32 AM 7/16/01 +1000, you wrote:
> > >This is about a *charity* that is giving computers to
>
> *poor* people. Chances
>
> > >are that these people have hardly ever touched a
>
> computer, leave alone owning
>
> > >one (no insensitivity intended). Do you think they can
>
> afford a copy of
>
> > Gotta add to this as this is a subject dear to my heart.
> >
> > I recall reading/hearing somewhere that these _donated_
>
> computers come from
>
> > the donors (typically large companies) with Windblows
>
> already
>
> > installed. Now I'm not sure of the fine print but haven't
>
> the donor
>
> > companies _already_ paid for the licence ?
> >
> > Thus MS is effectively asking for payment twice for the
>
> same piece of
>
> > software. Most business I know realise that once you have
>
> paid for an item
>
> > _once_ you own it (case in point : when you buy pavers for
>
> your house and
>
> > then you sell your house, Boral doesn't expect the new
>
> owner to pay for the
>
> > pavers a second time).
> >
> > Couldn't the donor companies just sign a bit of paper
>
> saying "donated - one
>
> > old computer complete with windows installed" ?
> >
> > Or is M$ a special case ??
> >
> > Once again M$ have led the field in the ever increasing
>
> race to screw
>
> > everyone. Starting with the people who can _least_ afford
>
> it.
>
> > It's a bloody charity M$ need to give a little and
>
> just say
>
> > "naughty. We won't take it any further, if you just stop
>
> doing
>
> > it". Alternatively they could get a heart and allow the
>
> charity to install
>
> > win95 on machines that _dont_ come pre-loaded (remember
>
> these are old
>
> > machines so they probably won't run 2000/XP) subject to a
>
> 'cap' of {say}
>
> > 200 a year.
> >
> > Alternatively, the charity could be innundated with offers
>
> of support from
>
> > the linux community asking if they have considered linux /
>
> open
>
> > office. And pointing out that the support offered by
>
> mailing lists is very
>
> > good...
> >
> > Possibly even the local linux users could come and offer
>
> to "hand hold"
>
> > through the first couple of installs.
> >
> > Now where was this charity located again ??
--
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
"There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
-- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Next replacement needed: CUTEFTP NOW: Missing Title bar in K
Hi Civileme and folks, This little "gotcha" is typical of what we need for THE Book: The missing bit is actualled the "Menu Bar" It was not there on my Konqueror. I found it by accident after Right Clicking in the body of the screen while not connected in browsing mode. There was this odd offering: "Add Menu Bar" so I clicked and .. there were all the missing bits! THUS I was able to take advantage of the sage weords of Civileme to make it do all sorts of tricks like these! On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:41, you manipulated electrons to produce: > On Wednesday 18 July 2001 09:13, John Rigby wrote: > > Hi Civileme, > > > > My K doesn't have VIEW or even Bookmarks ?? > > Can't find any change options and docs don't say anything about > > how to > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > WHOA! > > You have a titlebar at the top, then a NON-MODIFIABLE Text Bar that > says > > "Location" "Edit" "View" "Go" "Bookmarks" "Tools" "Settings" > "Window" "Help" > > All in text > > then the location Toolbar > > then the main toolbar > > You can put functions on the main toolbar by clicking on Settings > in the Textbar and picking "Configure ToolBar" > > That includes little things like adding an icon to split screens > either horizontally or vertically. But you have it anyway from the > Textbar. > > > Civileme > > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 02:55, you manipulated electrons to produce: > > > On Tuesday 17 July 2001 02:23, John Rigby wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > > > What advice as a replacement for CuteFTP in M8? > > > > > > Konqueror > > > > > > Go to an FTP site > > > > > > Click on view to split the screen > > > > > > set file:/home/(yourusername) as the URL fot one of the > > > half-screens. > > > > John > > > > Fablor now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (it's only an Autoresponder) :-) -- Cheers, John Fablor now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it's only an Autoresponder) :-)
Re: Fw: [newbie] Problem with automounting CDROM and floppy
On Wednesday 18 July 2001 15:26, you wrote: > Thanks for your advice, > > but I am not sure, how to configure these things. Could anybody tell me > what should stand in /etc/fstab file for floppy disk and for CD-ROM? > > I tried to use various settings, but CD-ROM is still unmountable reporting > various erros messages... > > Thanks > > Jan Sedivy > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This is what my fstab file looks like and supermount is what you are looking for I think. This is from LM 8.0, which version are you using? /dev/hda1 / ext2 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda7 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 /mnt/zip /mnt/zip supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/zip 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 /usr ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda8 /var ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 If you need any other help, come back to the list, -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842
Re: [newbie] Transferring files from Windoze drives to Mandrake
Hi Paul, K=KDE the "other one" :-) Dave covered it "Newbie style" for me thanks! I aim to K.I.S.S. and that means GUI solutions wherever possible and it was simple .. when someone shows you! :-) I wouldn't have known how to get to /mt/windows ! On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:19, you manipulated electrons to produce: > > Can't see how to do this: > > Gnome automatically recognises my Doze Drives but K does not. > > How do we make (preferably under the GUI like Gnome) K recognise > > them? I need to attach some from them as email files. > > Hi John, > What do you mean by "K"? > Winders drives normally are mounted at boot through the definitions > in /etc/fstab, and they should be accessible through any > environment. Just go to /mnt/windows and from there you should be > able to manoeuver to any directory (at least on the disk known as > C: ) > Paul -- Cheers, John Fablor now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it's only an Autoresponder) :-)
Re: [newbie] Desktop
It worked! It must be magic! Is it a bug??? Why did it happen?? I have no idea. I may pose that question to the KDE mailing lists. Anyway, my day is now complete along with my desktop. Thanks much... Tom. s wrote: > It may not help, but you could try deleting ~/.kde directory and reboot and > see if it they come up. This helps with corruption, but I'm not sure that is > the case with a new install. But try it, what do you have to lose? Also, > another idea is if the root desktop is working, you could copy over root's > /.kde directory and chown it to the user's. > -s > > On Wednesday 18 July 2001 02:34 pm, you wrote: > > Tried it and it worked like a charm. > > > > Thanks for the reply. > > > > Now if I can only get my desktop going... > > > > Tom. > >
Re: [newbie] Transferring files from Windoze drives to Mandrake
Hi Dave, On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:16, you manipulated electrons to produce: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > John, > > I'm not sure what you mean when you say KDE doesn't recognize your > Windows partitions but Gnome does. The ability to mount a vfat > partition is part of the linux kernel (or a kernel module), but the > GUI you are using. > > Are you saying that Gnome set up shortcut icons to easily access > your partitions, but KDE did not? ** Pregnantcisely! :-) There are these nice icons on the desktop in Gnome, zilch in K. > > Try this: in KDE, run konqueror in file-manager mode (just click > the Home button or icon). Navigate to the Root ( / ) folder, then > to /mnt, and there (within /mnt) you will see your Windows > partitions. They may have wierd-looking names like hda1, hda2, > etc., or they may actually say win_c or windows or some such. You > can create shortcuts to these "folders" on your desktop or wherever > you want, to access them more easily. > > Hope this helps, > Dave ** AAARRHHGH - does it help! :-) Now all I have to do is find out how to easily make desktop shortcuts! But we are halfway there! > > -- Cheers, John Fablor now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it's only an Autoresponder) :-)
Re: [newbie] microsoft hassling Aussie Charity.
I'm not a lawyer, but I think the charity would still be
responsible to pay unless the M$ install CDs were included
with the donated computers (unlikely, but who knows?).
I don't know why the donors wouldn't give 'em the CDs too,
though; any replacement they bought would probably already
come with its own copy of Winsux.
Miark
- Original Message -
From: Paul Clyne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 4:45 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] microsoft hassling Aussie Charity.
> At 02:32 AM 7/16/01 +1000, you wrote:
>
> >This is about a *charity* that is giving computers to
*poor* people. Chances
> >are that these people have hardly ever touched a
computer, leave alone owning
> >one (no insensitivity intended). Do you think they can
afford a copy of
>
> Gotta add to this as this is a subject dear to my heart.
>
> I recall reading/hearing somewhere that these _donated_
computers come from
> the donors (typically large companies) with Windblows
already
> installed. Now I'm not sure of the fine print but haven't
the donor
> companies _already_ paid for the licence ?
>
> Thus MS is effectively asking for payment twice for the
same piece of
> software. Most business I know realise that once you have
paid for an item
> _once_ you own it (case in point : when you buy pavers for
your house and
> then you sell your house, Boral doesn't expect the new
owner to pay for the
> pavers a second time).
>
> Couldn't the donor companies just sign a bit of paper
saying "donated - one
> old computer complete with windows installed" ?
>
> Or is M$ a special case ??
>
> Once again M$ have led the field in the ever increasing
race to screw
> everyone. Starting with the people who can _least_ afford
it.
>
> It's a bloody charity M$ need to give a little and
just say
> "naughty. We won't take it any further, if you just stop
doing
> it". Alternatively they could get a heart and allow the
charity to install
> win95 on machines that _dont_ come pre-loaded (remember
these are old
> machines so they probably won't run 2000/XP) subject to a
'cap' of {say}
> 200 a year.
>
> Alternatively, the charity could be innundated with offers
of support from
> the linux community asking if they have considered linux /
open
> office. And pointing out that the support offered by
mailing lists is very
> good...
>
> Possibly even the local linux users could come and offer
to "hand hold"
> through the first couple of installs.
>
> Now where was this charity located again ??
>
>
>
Re: [newbie] Managing Zip, CD-ROM, and floppy drives
Judy, Yes, add the "user" option, which allows any user to mount. But I would also make a backup copy of fstab ;-) Mike - Original Message - From: Judith Miner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Managing Zip, CD-ROM, and floppy drives > Dennis wrote: > >> once you do a umount on the zip drive you must place another disk in > the drive and then type in console "mount /mnt/zip" assuming that is > what it is called in your fstab file. so if you umount you have to then > mount again. << > > I thought I was doing that, but today I discovered that I was writing > "mount /mnt /zip" instead of "mount /mnt/zip". It was that extra space > that was preventing the new disk from being mounted. So one problem > solved. > > However, I can't mount and unmount zip disks as user, only as root. I > checked my /etc/fstab file and found this line: > /mnt/zip /mnt/zip supermount fs-vfat,dev=/dev/zip 0 0 > > Should I put a "user" in there somewhere, or "users" so anyone could > insert and eject zip disks? I read man supermount and man mount and > couldn't figure out anything to solve my problem. I didn't want to > experiment with editing /etc/fstab until I knew what I should put in, if > anything. > --Judy Miner > >
Re: [newbie] microsoft hassling Aussie Charity.
At 02:32 AM 7/16/01 +1000, you wrote:
>This is about a *charity* that is giving computers to *poor* people. Chances
>are that these people have hardly ever touched a computer, leave alone owning
>one (no insensitivity intended). Do you think they can afford a copy of
Gotta add to this as this is a subject dear to my heart.
I recall reading/hearing somewhere that these _donated_ computers come from
the donors (typically large companies) with Windblows already
installed. Now I'm not sure of the fine print but haven't the donor
companies _already_ paid for the licence ?
Thus MS is effectively asking for payment twice for the same piece of
software. Most business I know realise that once you have paid for an item
_once_ you own it (case in point : when you buy pavers for your house and
then you sell your house, Boral doesn't expect the new owner to pay for the
pavers a second time).
Couldn't the donor companies just sign a bit of paper saying "donated - one
old computer complete with windows installed" ?
Or is M$ a special case ??
Once again M$ have led the field in the ever increasing race to screw
everyone. Starting with the people who can _least_ afford it.
It's a bloody charity M$ need to give a little and just say
"naughty. We won't take it any further, if you just stop doing
it". Alternatively they could get a heart and allow the charity to install
win95 on machines that _dont_ come pre-loaded (remember these are old
machines so they probably won't run 2000/XP) subject to a 'cap' of {say}
200 a year.
Alternatively, the charity could be innundated with offers of support from
the linux community asking if they have considered linux / open
office. And pointing out that the support offered by mailing lists is very
good...
Possibly even the local linux users could come and offer to "hand hold"
through the first couple of installs.
Now where was this charity located again ??
Re: [newbie] Disk full problem
George, It would help us if you posted the partitions you have and what size they are. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems & Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 12:21 AM 07/19/2001 +0200, George Baker wrote: >I installed LM 7 on a 1.2 gig extended partition. Now I see that /root >partition is nearly full, yet I have 300 MB free in /home. How can I >give more space to /root or specifically /usr. > >Thanks >George Baker >South Africa > > >
Re: [newbie] mp3 encoding
If I only had the time!!! Robert wrote: > On Wednesday 18 July 2001 16:02, Kevin Fonner wrote: > >> I have been looking at Grip and it's interface seems simple and easy to >> use however I noticed it talks to other mp3 encoding programs. None of >> them seem to be installed. I was wondering which one would be best to >> do mp3's? lame? bladeenc? I3enc? mp3encode? their are others also >> listed. >> >> Thanks >> Kevin > > I have found bladenc and mp3encode to be the quck pair, but hey, d/l em all > and decide for yourself
[newbie] Looking for SquidGuard rpm for LM8.0
Has any one heard of an available rpm for SquidGuard? So far, I've only been able to find the tar ball version. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 "su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey"
[newbie] Which program is Mandrake using for web demos?
Hi all, I'm interesting in creating additional Linux demos. Does any one know what Mandrake is using to create their demos for their web page? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 "su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey"
Re: [newbie] Joysticks
On Tuesday 17 July 2001 03:07 am, you wrote: > On Tuesday 17 July 2001 05:04, s wrote: > > On Monday 16 July 2001 09:03 pm, you wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 July 2001 02:25, s wrote: > > > > Can anyone brief me on the set up of a joystick? > > > > > > If you're using a 2.4 kernel, add the following to > > > /etc/modules.conf... # Joystick > > > alias char-major-13 joydev ns558 > > > > > > That should be it. Good luck. > > > > Thanks, that helped some. > You don't have to add anything to the XF86Config-4 file. > Raider Pro isn't listed in joystick.txt, so which module are you loading? > What sort of SoundBlaster card do you have? Your problem might be > something to do with the PNP setup. I have an AWE64 ISA PnP and my > /etc/isapnp.conf looks like this. Look in particular at the Game section. It's a sound blaster live pci. I used joydev ns558 analog as that was the closest in the .txt file to what I have. I have even tried insmod gameport before firing up a game. The joystick controller is on port 0xd400 and I think the usual is 0x0200. So I even tried joystick=0x0200 and 0x200. Some discussion has been going on in the loki games ngs and the consensus is that kernels 2.4.3 & .4 can't handle the confliction between the joystick and video cards. I don't think that's the case here, but another guy with my same exact set up is having the same exact problem. Another with similiar set up is having similar errors. Anyway I tried upgrading the kernel, but it errored out too. (Not my week) So, ultimately I ordered a usb joystick from logitech that is supposed to work and recommended in the faq of descent3. I'll know Friday... Thanks for your help, but I give up on the Raider Pro for now. :-) -s
Re: [newbie] Growing Help Resources
John Rigby wrote: > > Hi Judy, > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 12:35, you manipulated electrons to produce: > > Hi John-- > > > > Never fear, I noted your first message and said "here's a guy with > > a great idea!" I certainly will send you tales of my many painful > > encounters with this beast of an OS. > > > > > > I'm sure I'll have plenty more to report. > > > > Good luck with your project, > > Judy Miner > > * What user background would you qualify yourself as? > 1,2,3,? > > Am already getting good feedback and hope to create a simple "format" > approach like: > Please identify your User level: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > > 1. What were you trying to do? > Was it part of the Distribution? > > 2. What didn't you understand? > (after reading the docs of course) > > 3. What finally made it clear? (Assuming you got it fixed) > > 4. What steps did you finally do? > ( How would *you* explain it now to someone else at your level) > > 5. What advice can we pass on to Mandrake to help us all? > > 6. Do you want acknowledgement in the new Ebook? First name only? > Full name? Nickname? Email? Site? > > > Any other idea inputs welcome, folks. > Just read the submission again a DAY AFTER you write it and then send > it! :-) > > It will be a "living" book freely available and updating constantly. > Working Title is: > > "LINUX - The Great Escape With Mandrake" > (Sub-title: If *I* can understand it, you can!) > -- > Cheers, > > John > > Fablor now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (it's only an Autoresponder) :-) Sounds good. I like to include demos. There are time when the visuals can help more than plain dcoumentation. We should find out what the good people at Mandrake use to create their demos. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 "su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey"
Re: [newbie] Mystery of missing Install of Websphere NOW DEsktop Icon setup
John Rigby wrote: > > Hi Roman, > Well, intuitive it is not! :-) > Took a clue from you and re-used an icon that failed previously and > went to "OPEN WITH" on a RClick on it. > It works, but boy, is it slow to come up! > > Next little one: > How do I open/import webs from the Doze side? > > -- > Cheers, > > John > > Fablor now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (it's only an Autoresponder) :-) Since wine is still being worked on, I would recommend using Netscape, to edit and save a web page to a folder. Copy it to your Linux partition. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 "su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey"
[newbie] Disk full problem
I installed LM 7 on a 1.2 gig extended partition. Now I see that /root partition is nearly full, yet I have 300 MB free in /home. How can I give more space to /root or specifically /usr. Thanks George Baker South Africa
[newbie] C Compiler
Trying to install koffice 2.0.1 and kfinance 0.2.0 and keep getting the
message that the C Compiler can't create executables. I have installed
gcc and gcc -c++. This is the config.log I get:
Thanks
George Baker
South Africa
This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.
configure:558: checking for gcc
configure:671: checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works
configure:687: gcc -o conftestconftest.c 1>&5
/usr/bin/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 682 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
main(){return(0);}
[newbie] mp3 encoding
I have been looking at Grip and it's interface seems simple and easy to use however I noticed it talks to other mp3 encoding programs. None of them seem to be installed. I was wondering which one would be best to do mp3's? lame? bladeenc? I3enc? mp3encode? their are others also listed. Thanks Kevin
Re: [newbie] Sound Card
It was Thu, 19 Jul 2001 01:43:15 +0530 when Alwan Sadagopan wrote: Very strange. Sounds like a problem in IRQ's, when a soundcard hangs up a system. See what cat /proc/interrupts shows, perhaps there is something in it that tells more. Shared IRQs are possible, but not all systems/cards like it equally. Paul >Nope i get no sounds in the wav files also. I use an C8738 sound card >from cmedia. During installation this was auto detected. > >>>I recently installed Linux Mandrake 8.0. I am unable to play mp3 music. >>>When i launch the XMMS window and submit a MP3 file for play the system >>>hangs (No response, Key board and the mouse become non functional), Any >>>suggestion to get XMMS stuff going??? -- Learning without thought is labor lost; thought without learning is perilous. -Confucius http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.1 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
Re: [newbie] New HDD
On Saturday 14 July 2001 13:44, you wrote: > On Saturday 14 July 2001 12:32 pm, David E.Fox wrote: > > > been runnin Linux on for years. I bought an OEM HDD that only came > > > with IBM's version of ez-bios on a floppy ($135 from MegaHaus > > > Dickinson, TX). > > That same dir on the new > 7200 rpm 2mb cache ata/33 drive loads in about 10 seconds. It's my firm > opinion that it wouldn't load noticibly faster if I changed kernels and > got the drive running at ata/100. I would be risking data corruption > tho, and draining other system resources. Things like AGP, USB, DDR, > ata/66 or /100 have never impressed me with their pseudo tricks. I view > them as marketing tools aimed at the average Windo$ user. YMMV Just to let everyone know I installed the Soyo K7-VTA Pro mobo and a 900 mhz duron processor last night. It took me 20 minutes to detach all my cards, unscrew the old mobo, put the new board in, replace the cards and reconnect all cables. I fired it up and did not have to do anything further, if it had been windows I would be reinstalling drivers and rebooting for another hour. I just love linux. The board has shown no problems with the SB live sound card and via southbridge, so far. Can't optimise the HD's but with the faster bus my hdparm -t shows 21mb/s + now instead of the 12.8 I got with the old board. Reports I read indicated that Soyo had the problem with the viachipset resolved. Don't know, but will see what happens over the next few days. This is for those looking for a new MoBo to use with AMD processors, works for me, YMMV. : )
Fw: [newbie] Problem with automounting CDROM and floppy
Thanks for your advice, but I am not sure, how to configure these things. Could anybody tell me what should stand in /etc/fstab file for floppy disk and for CD-ROM? I tried to use various settings, but CD-ROM is still unmountable reporting various erros messages... Thanks Jan Sedivy [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > First you need to open your KDE or GNOME. > > Go to KDE Start Center and you will se Configuration and then to Others (I > don't know exactly the names just because my Linux is in Spanish). In Others > you will see LinuxConf. > > You need to open LinuxConf. Then in the window of LinuxConf you go to > FileSystem, you open it. Then you will see a new window with all the file > devices you have on your system. > > You need to configure your CD and floppy, and that's it. > > Have a fun. See you, > > Tomek Nowinski > > -Mensaje original- > De: Ján Šedivý [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Enviado el: Lunes, 16 de Julio de 2001 04:48 p.m. > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Asunto: [newbie] Problem with automounting CDROM and floppy > > > Please help, > > I am a real newbie to Mandrake Linux 8, I have installed it only a few days > ago. After some hours of trying its possibilites I managed to set up all to > work fine, but today a problem occured. During booting of Mandrake there > were two problems - with mounting a CDROM and a floppy. An error message was > something like: ... CDROM is not a block device, or too many filesystems > mounted" or something like that. These devices are locked now - and I am > unable even to install anything from CD... > > Could you tell me, how options should I set for CDROM and floppy drive in > Linuxconf / Filesystems / Access local drive? > > P.S. > Yesterday when all this was running O.K., I had another problem with > floppy - I could not access it - even if I was logged in as root... > > Thanky you very much > > Jan Sedivy > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [newbie] Ad Blocker for Linux? (Mandrake 8.0)
On Wednesday 18 July 2001 02:25, Miark wrote: > And while I ponder Konqueror, I have one other question: I > have "Enable Web Shortcuts" turned on, and I _thought_ this > would allow me to type, say "av" and go directly to > altavista. Instead, Konqueror sends it to Google as a search > term. Should that happen? > > Miark > You have to type a colon (:) after "av", for example av:ppp Regards, Peter -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ). Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586, kernel 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr, XFree86 4.0.3, patch level 11mdk, KDE: 2.1.2, Qt: 2.3.1. Uptime 2 hours 49 minutes
Re: [newbie] Transferring files from Windoze drives to Mandrake
civileme wrote: [snip] > Either you haves a very corrupt install insofar as KDE is > concerned or you are just unfamiliar with the desktop. > > There should be icons on the K desktop which say mnt win_c > or similar. [snip] ÇivilemeI've just done 3 installs, 2 with 8.0 (powerpack) and 1 (from scratch) with MandrakeFreq (20010619) on a system with a DOS partition, an IDE CD-ROM, and IDE CD-RW and both a 3½ and a 5¼ floppy. In all cases the only desktop icon that was installed on the KDE desktop was one for the 3½ floppy. Previously when I have installed on this same system with only a CD-ROM (no CD-RW, but all other devices were the same) there was a CD-ROM icon installed on the KDE desktop in addition to one for the the 3½ floppy. In /mnt there were directories for both CD's and in /dev there were correct simlinks to both real devices (one IDE and one SCSI). There was also a directory for the DOS partition and for the 3½ floppy, but none for the 5¼ floppy. /ect/fstab had correct lines for everything except for the 5¼ floppy which had no entry at all. -- Alan
[newbie] Lisa & Relisa configuration/KDE Windows share browsing
Hi; FYI: (In case no one has posted this before) There is a bug in 8.0's KDE installation of Lisa & reLisa. It doesn't see the config files in ~/.kde/share/config/lisarc & ~/.kde/share/config/relisarc If you move the files generated by the control panel into ~/.lisarc & ~/.relisarc browing of Windows shares works fine... Provided samba is installed properly. -JMS
Re: [newbie] Transferring files from Windoze drives to Mandrake
Civileme! My install did not place my three Win partitions on the KDE desktop. Neither did it place the two CDROMs there. Although I have two floppies, the install placed only one non-specific floppy on the desktop and made it inaccessible to me as a user. Using the info you provided below, i placed my Win partitions on the desktop. Now how do I place the two CDROMs and both floppies on the desktop so that they are accessible to me as a user. Another question - how can i tell how much free space is available in each of my partitions? I know these are simple issues but i am still having problems grappling with the Linux paradigm. Thanks Preston At 01:00 PM 7/18/01, civileme wrote: >Either you haves a very corrupt install insofar as KDE is concerned or you >are just unfamiliar with the desktop. > >There should be icons on the K desktop which say mnt win_c or similar. >Clicking on those brings up Konqueror in filemanager mode and you can click >and drag between systems >If you do NOT have the winfolders on your K desktop then right-click on any >vacant area of the screen and select create new and enter a URL of the form >file:/mnt/win_c then right click on the icon made and browse the icons for a >hard disk icon. > >Civileme --- Betti Ann & Preston Smith Head of St Margaret's Bay, NS [EMAIL PROTECTED] MGB & RV Owners
[newbie] Sound Card
Hi, I recently installed Linux Mandrake 8.0. I am unable to play mp3 music. When i launch the XMMS window and submit a MP3 file for play the system hangs (No response, Key board and the mouse become non functional), Any suggestion to get XMMS stuff going??? Is there means to play .rm and .ram files? Thankx in advance. Regards, Alwan
Re: [newbie] Desktop
Tried it and it worked like a charm. Thanks for the reply. Now if I can only get my desktop going... Tom. Miark wrote: > Tom, > > These refer to USB ports (180) and serial ports (4). I know > this happens if you've got them disabled in your BIOS, as I > have. If you don't need the ports, then add the following > lines to /etc/modules.conf as root: > > alias char-major-180 off > alias char-major-4 off > > Miark > > - Original Message - > From: Tom Cada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 9:16 AM > Subject: [newbie] Desktop > > > I have installed LM 8.0 on my system. Everything seems ok > except for the > > following: > > > > 1. When I boot, and after the logon prompt is displayed, > a bunch of > > messages appear stating > > > > modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-4 and > > > > modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-180. > > > > 2. During the install and in any subsequent upgrades, the > installation > > process would stall loading a program for some 15 to 30 > seconds (or > > more) and then carry on. A group of programs would load > from the CD and > > then it would stall in the middle of a load, and then > continue. It > > caused the program install process to take about 3 hours. > > > > 3. My desktop has disappeared. It initially happened when > running KDE > > as root. All the icons and panel were loading properly. > Then when > > re-starting KDE, it started up with the initialization > screen (the KDE > > logo) being displayed. Once the initialization finished, > there was no > > panel, or icons but the mouse pointer was shown. The > screen did not > > display any menus when clicked on by the right and left > mouse buttons. I > > started using another user, and KDE was working properly. > Then it > > stopped working for that user too. > > > > I notice that the startup messages for KDE are displayed > at the bottom > > of the logo with the last one being "Loading the Desktop" > and then > > skipping to the end stating "KDE is up and running". Well > it aint. > > > > Any assistance would be most welcome... Tom. > > > >
Re: [newbie] Path and KDESU
tazmun wrote: [snip] > here..but what does "pwd" stand for again? And I keep > hearing about "kdesu" is this just something your typing > into the console shell from kde window manager. I was > wondering if someone could go a bit more into detail on > this command and exactly how to use it. Also what the > advantage...disadvantage of this might be. [snip] Tazmunpwd = pRINT wORKING dIRECTORY. kdesu is a GUI tool to allow you to run a GUI app as root. The syntax is: kdesu [-c] advantage is that you don't have to log out as user and re-login as root to use certain root-only programs. Disadvantage is none. -- Alan
Re: [newbie] Re(newbie)Linux Magazine 8.0 Installation impossible!!Help appreciated
- Original Message - From: Jason Guidry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Linux-Mandrake Newbie (E-mail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Re(newbie)Linux Magazine 8.0 Installation impossible!!Help appreciated > >MACK , if this was a cover version from news vendor , the disk was corrupt! > >Do you live in UK or USA? If UK could send a working copy. Let me know > > > *Ouch* well, I guess they tried... > > anyway, looking at your system specs you may want to be cautious. I > installed 8.0 on a system very similar to yours 2 weeks ago, except the only > thing that makes it run halfway decent is that the ram was upgraded to 96 > MB. > > would it be a good Idea to install the older kernal (2.2.19) and the older > XF86 instead? > > How is that done again? :0 > Installed all O.K. on my PC , is your machine having any other problems? Sometimes it's just a case of every PC being so individual you may need better advice than i can give to see if there may be a specific problem. Hope you can get a good result soon. regards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Ceative WebCam III.
Hi everybody, I just wanted to ask is someone knows how to configure a webcam in LM80? Which software should I use? Any suggestions? Thakns, Tomek -- Znudzilo Ci sie logo w komorce? Wgraj nowe [ http://komorki.onet.pl/dodatki.html ]
Re: [newbie] Galeon AND Mozilla -- Simultaneously!
On Tuesday 17 July 2001 20:10, you wrote: I'm running both right now, each one loading a different site, and which mozilla shows only one such file in the path. > Dear friends: > > Just found out today that you CAN run Galeon and Mozilla simultaneously! > How? > > Well, you can't run them both at the same time IF the Mozilla version is > identical, i.e. if, for example, Galeon uses Mozilla installed at -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC Unless you're the lead dog, the view never changes ...
[newbie] Real Audio Support in Mozilla
According to Mandrake Real Player is already installed. How do I get it to work with Mozilla? Thanks, Kevin
RE: [newbie] Fonts very small everywhere
I had this problem on my laptop and felt like a dork when I figured it out. go into your desktop (KDE or gnome, whatever) configuration tool (where you change the colors and all) and select fonts on the right hand side. you should be able to choose what fonts and sizes you want where. if you can't find where this is, lemme know. I'll have to get into LM to find out.
Re: [newbie] Okidata Ol400
On Wednesday 18 July 2001 08:13, Johnix wrote: > I'm haveing trouble with printer Okidata Ol400e is supported but > Ol400 is not. I'm useing Mandrake 7.2. Any idea's would be > appreciated. Try setting it up as a HP LaserJet II. Although I have not done that with Mandrake, it worked great for me with Caldera and SuSE. *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.2 Professional KDE 2.1.2 KMail 1.2 Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [newbie] Playing CD's through SB live SPDIF socket
>From the K menu, select K > Multimedia > Sound > Sound Mixer Mess with the sliding controls--you'll get it. Miark - Original Message - From: Glen Swindell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 7:34 AM Subject: [newbie] Playing CD's through SB live SPDIF socket > Hi, > > I have my CD drive connected via the SPDIF internal socket to my SB live > card. At the moment, I cannot play CD's though linux (LM8.0) > > Has any one any experience of this, what settings do I need ? > > Thanks in advance > > Glen Swindell >
[newbie] nVidia Installation Guide
By the way, the formatting in the installation guide annoyed me so much that I completely re-did it; first for myself, but also because I thought nVidia may also like to post it. Well, I was wrong on the second count. I sent it to them, and all they said was that they would incorporate more white space into the next version of the document. Twits. Anyway, if anybody wants a legible version of that document, please let me know. Miark
Re: [newbie] Got a question...
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 00:57, Tim Holmes wrote:
> Maybe somebody can shed some light on this subject.
>
> I write a lot of scripts, and I go back and revise them as well. Well I
> keep noticing files that have a ~ at the end of the file. For example,
> one of the first scripts I tested when learning expect.
>
> [timh@r2d2 bin]$ ls -la aftp*
> -rwxr-xr-x1 timh timh 142 Jul 15 10:53 aftp*
> -rwxr-xr-x1 timh timh 142 Jul 1 19:45 aftp~*
>
> But the files are the same.
>
> [timh@r2d2 bin]$ diff aftp aftp~
>
> They both look like this.
>
> [timh@r2d2 bin]$ cat aftp
> #!/usr/bin/expect
> log_user 0
> proc domainname {} {
> set file [open /etc/resolv.conf r]
> while {[gets $file buf] != -1} {
> if {[scan $buf "domain %s" name] ==1} {
> close $file
> return $name
> }
> }
> close $file
> error "No domain declaration in /etc/resolv.conf"
> }
> spawn ftp $argv
> expect "Name"
> send "anonymous\r"
> expect "Password:"
> send "anon@[domainname]\r"
> log_user 1
> interact
>
> But as soon as I edit it, then close it out, there's a "temp" file there
> and it always ends in ~. What's this all about? How long do these files
> stick around? I've often just gone and removed them, but now I'm real
> curious as to what's the point of them.
>
> Thanks for the help.
> tdh
I believe that they are just backups made automatically by your text editor,
whenever you save. That way, you have something to go back to if you mess
your file up.
--
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
"There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
-- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] InteractiveBastille killed my sound!
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 00:57, civileme wrote:
> On Sunday 15 July 2001 03:54, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 05:17, civileme wrote:
> > > On Saturday 14 July 2001 09:03, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> > > > Hey everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I ran InteractiveBastille and configured my system security settings.
> > > > After I rebooted and returned to GNOME, I found that my sound no
> > > > longer works. The Esound daemon (ESD) is running, but nothing comes
> > > > out of my speakers. My mixer settings are fine, and sound still works
> > > > perfectly in KDE, which uses the ARTS sound server. I can also run
> > > > console apps like mpg123 with no trouble.
> > > >
> > > > What could be wrong? Perhaps I accidentally blocked a port that
> > > > Esound needs?
> > >
> > > Or the arts _server_
> > >
> > > Yes indeed.
> > >
> > > Civileme
> >
> > Thanks for the response.
> >
> > I'm sorry, Civileme, but I don't quite understand what you mean here ("Or
> > the arts _server_"). I don't have ARTS running at all when I'm using
> > GNOME (I checked with a "ps aux").
> >
> > When I run GNOME, it loads "esd -nobeeps -as 30" to initialise sound.
> > Even though this is loaded, sound doesn't work. If I go to the GNOME
> > Control Centre sound settings, it turns off sound. I have tried turning
> > it back on again both via the Control Centre and by directly editing the
> > file /home/user/.gnome/sound/system (changing "false" statements to
> > "true").
> >
> > As Tom Brinkman suggested, I have tried executing (as root) "chmod 666
> > /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/midi* /dev/sequencer*". Now when I
> > try to run esd manually (after killing other instances of it) I will get
> > the "startup beeps" (as they are called when I type "esd --help") that
> > indicate that it is working (I didn't get them before), but sound in
> > GNOME still doesn't work (e.g. XMMS complains when I try to play an MP3).
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
>
> OK that could be gmix... go to another desktop and use the mixer settings
> from it, then return to GNOME and keep hands off the gmix.
I logged off GNOME and loaded IceWM. When I ran gmix it appeared with my
preset mixer settings. I changed things a bit (just in case) and then logged
off. GNOME was still soundless upon my return. I tried going to KDE and doing
the same as I did in IceWM -- no luck. I even tried changing the volume with
aumix from the console then logging into GNOME. Nothing.
> GNOME uses CORBA and that means sockets, so it is conceivable that the
> Bastille firewall is blocking something internally. You would need to
> check the rules and make sure that things with origin at 127.0.0.1 are
> never blocked. (the internet routers will not relay such an address, so
> you are still safe from exploits.)
I checked my firewall rules and I noticed that "lo" (local loopback) was
running as a trusted interface. There is nothing blocking either lo or
127.0.0.1 (or any of its aliases).
I then fully disabled my firewall (so that it wouldn't start at bootup) and
rebooted. GNOME was the same: no sound. Loading esd on different ports didn't
help either (I didn't think it would, but I'm getting desperate here :-) ).
By the looks of it, the problem is with a different component of Bastille --
not the firewall. I am quite certain that it is *something* (I just don't
know what) in Bastille, since this is the second time I've had this problem
(a MandrakeFreq install fixed it the first time).
In case you're wondering (I forgot to mention before), I am using Bastille
Linux 1.2.0 from http://www.bastille-linux.org on Mandrake 8.0 (upgraded to
Freq2).
Any more ideas to help an increasingly desperate user?
Cheers :-)
--
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
"There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
-- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] GeForce2 MX
Hi Dan, The nVidia drivers that come with Mandrake are not 3D capable. You'll need to go to nVidia's web site to download the proper driver RPMs and the Installation Guide. http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=linux Miark - Original Message - From: Dan Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:32 AM Subject: [newbie] GeForce2 MX > Hello! > > I just installed my second Mandrake machine (which I built from components, a > new experience for me!), and this second installation is giving me somewhat > more grief than my first did. > > Most notably, my GeForce2 MX doesn't do full-screen GL very well at all. > Tuxracer gives me about .5 frames per second--which makes sliding down a > mountain VERY challenging! I saw this same behavior in gltron too. > > I installed Mesa off the Core CD, which allowed Tuxracer to launch. > Prior to that it gave an error about being unable to find GL extensions for > this device. I don't have the exact wording of that error (this machine is at > home, while I'm at work), but I could get it if that would be helpful. > > Then when I saw the performance I was getting, I went to nvidia.com and > downloaded their drivers, which I installed. I made the changes they > recommended to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Installing NVIDIA_GLX from rpm, I got a > bunch of messages about it copying away GL-related libraries that it had > conflicts with. With NVIDIA_GLX installed, I get the same error I got before > Mesa about missing GL. 'rpm -e NVIDIA_GLX' gets back my Mesa stuff, and gets > me back the very poor performance I mention above. > > Any input on this? Anybody got a GeForce2 MX running GL successfully? > > > -- > Dan Ray > Director Custom Applications > Triangle Research, Inc. > http://www.triangleresearch.com >
Re: [newbie] How difficult is Nautilus 1.0.4 to install ?
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 02:55, Charles Darcy wrote: >I didn't know about the Cooker packages. Is it where the candidate > update packages for the next release of Mandrake exist ? Yep. Be careful when using them -- they haven't been fully tested and some of them are incompatible with the current Mandrake release. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson
[newbie] M$ is pulling Java & MP3 support from WinDOS XP
Just another "innovative" way for M$ to "compete": http://netscape.zdnet.com:80/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2790355,00.html I have also read (on CNet) that M$ is pulling MP3 codecs from XP. If users want to use MP3s, they have to either buy the plug-in for Media Player from M$ or use something else. Of course, M$ is doing this so people will use their very own WMA format instead (which contains digital rights management). -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson
[newbie] Desktop
I have installed LM 8.0 on my system. Everything seems ok except for the following: 1. When I boot, and after the logon prompt is displayed, a bunch of messages appear stating modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-4 and modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-180. 2. During the install and in any subsequent upgrades, the installation process would stall loading a program for some 15 to 30 seconds (or more) and then carry on. A group of programs would load from the CD and then it would stall in the middle of a load, and then continue. It caused the program install process to take about 3 hours. 3. My desktop has disappeared. It initially happened when running KDE as root. All the icons and panel were loading properly. Then when re-starting KDE, it started up with the initialization screen (the KDE logo) being displayed. Once the initialization finished, there was no panel, or icons but the mouse pointer was shown. The screen did not display any menus when clicked on by the right and left mouse buttons. I started using another user, and KDE was working properly. Then it stopped working for that user too. I notice that the startup messages for KDE are displayed at the bottom of the logo with the last one being "Loading the Desktop" and then skipping to the end stating "KDE is up and running". Well it aint. Any assistance would be most welcome... Tom.
Re: [newbie] WinDOS NT install & UK government
This is already happening in a big way in governments across the globe. I have posted numerous lengthy messages about this in the recent past. You may want to look through the list archives for them if you're interested. On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:05, Andy Weller wrote: > Another topic that has sprung to mind (which stems from "Linux in public > (state) schools") is the use of Linux for government services/offices. I > was speaking to someone the other day who works for our NHS (which is in > tatters and could do with as much £'s as possible). Their 'industry > standard' is M$ and often workers are sent on M$ courses for them to > learn how to use M$ products (WinDOS, Office, etc.). Surely the use of > M$ products amounts to great expense to the tax payer!?! An obvious way > to be kinder on the tax payers pocket - or (which is surely prefered) to > put that money back into services is to use a better/cheaper alternative > - Linux! > > I would imagine this is the case for many other UK (Euro/US) government > services/offices. They could save £'s... > > Just a thought. > > Thanks, > > Andy -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson
[newbie] web page display
I have put the following line in a page. L.V.Gandhi's Pages I have seen big letters in winme, netscape 4.77 ie 6 in mdk 8.0 galeon and mozilla. But in konquerer and netscape 4.77 in linux I get only small letters. Can anybody explain it? Further I get vertical stripes in konquerer and ns 4.77 linux, where as it is OK in other browsers. Why? -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux user No.205042
[newbie] looking up internet address for hostname hangs up my machine after gnome login
Hello: I use linux on my laptop at home and work. It uses the same fixed IP address both at home and office. I recently installed the IBMJDK (using rpm) when I was connected to my office network and the installation was smooth. But when I took my machine home, it will go through the start up process (all processes start fine), but it takes a long time (almost 1 minute compared to few seconds before I started having problems) for the gnome login window to come up. Now when I login, a new window comes saying "looking up internet address for linux_ravi" (linux_ravi is my hostname) with a moving bar below. Eventually this window disappears and then the machine hangs. But back in the office network, it works just like before. I donot know what does it mean by "looking up internet address for linux_ravi". I have a fixed IP and the same default gateway everywhere. Looks like the gnome configuration is screwed up somewhere. or I am not sure about the cause I booted into text mode and removed the IBM JDK, but still see the same problem Could some one help me. Thanks Ravi
RE: [newbie] Re(newbie)Linux Magazine 8.0 Installation impossible!!Help appreciated
>MACK , if this was a cover version from news vendor , the disk was corrupt! >Do you live in UK or USA? If UK could send a working copy. Let me know *Ouch* well, I guess they tried... anyway, looking at your system specs you may want to be cautious. I installed 8.0 on a system very similar to yours 2 weeks ago, except the only thing that makes it run halfway decent is that the ram was upgraded to 96 MB. would it be a good Idea to install the older kernal (2.2.19) and the older XF86 instead? How is that done again? :0
[newbie] Playing CD's through SB live SPDIF socket
Hi, I have my CD drive connected via the SPDIF internal socket to my SB live card. At the moment, I cannot play CD's though linux (LM8.0) Has any one any experience of this, what settings do I need ? Thanks in advance Glen Swindell
Re: [newbie] Transferring files from Windoze drives to Mandrake
> Can't see how to do this: > Gnome automatically recognises my Doze Drives but K does not. > How do we make (preferably under the GUI like Gnome) K recognise them? > I need to attach some from them as email files. Hi John, What do you mean by "K"? Winders drives normally are mounted at boot through the definitions in /etc/fstab, and they should be accessible through any environment. Just go to /mnt/windows and from there you should be able to manoeuver to any directory (at least on the disk known as C: ) Paul
Re: [newbie] Transferring files from Windoze drives to Mandrake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John, I'm not sure what you mean when you say KDE doesn't recognize your Windows partitions but Gnome does. The ability to mount a vfat partition is part of the linux kernel (or a kernel module), but the GUI you are using. Are you saying that Gnome set up shortcut icons to easily access your partitions, but KDE did not? Try this: in KDE, run konqueror in file-manager mode (just click the Home button or icon). Navigate to the Root ( / ) folder, then to /mnt, and there (within /mnt) you will see your Windows partitions. They may have wierd-looking names like hda1, hda2, etc., or they may actually say win_c or windows or some such. You can create shortcuts to these "folders" on your desktop or wherever you want, to access them more easily. Hope this helps, Dave On Wednesday 18 July 2001 07:36, thus spake John Rigby: > Hi folks, > > Can't see how to do this: > Gnome automatically recognises my Doze Drives but K does not. > How do we make (preferably under the GUI like Gnome) K recognise them? > I need to attach some from them as email files. - -- "Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit." (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7VYxKOiMJhTaLf3MRAu88AJ95atm38yq4G9feLXdwtn/24VB5tACfbyqX Y1ea/DZ/S434wYyqpG65rJc= =6qCo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[newbie] WinDOS NT install & UK government
Dear all, Thanks one and all who helped me solve my dual boot (NT/Linux) problems. NT sucks and had to use the start sectors of my HD - the WinDOS partition I had created (during Linux install) was at the end... therefore, I had to blow the whole lot and start again!!! What a nightmare I had trying to get it up and running - it has taken me (& others) almost 2 days to configure and set up NT! I installed and configured LM 8.0 this morning in approx. 2 hours flat! WOW - wasn't quite expecting that, in fact, quite the opposite! Hasn't 'our' OS come along way? The install is so much more user-friendly compared to NT - it was a breaze. I even took coffee during package install :) Another topic that has sprung to mind (which stems from "Linux in public (state) schools") is the use of Linux for government services/offices. I was speaking to someone the other day who works for our NHS (which is in tatters and could do with as much £'s as possible). Their 'industry standard' is M$ and often workers are sent on M$ courses for them to learn how to use M$ products (WinDOS, Office, etc.). Surely the use of M$ products amounts to great expense to the tax payer!?! An obvious way to be kinder on the tax payers pocket - or (which is surely prefered) to put that money back into services is to use a better/cheaper alternative - Linux! I would imagine this is the case for many other UK (Euro/US) government services/offices. They could save £'s... Just a thought. Thanks, Andy
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Re: [newbie] Text Display in boxes and WP Programs NOW: YOU NEW USERS CAN HELP
Hi Charles, You are durn tootin' right!! Cheers, John > Until then, when you need to use a terminal or write a script for > something, this list will get you very detailed resoponses. That is > what makes it easier than Winduhs in my estimation. I can actually > get someone to explain (in plain language) how to perform a > particular task. Sometimes the advice doesn't work, because of > differences between systems, but I don't see that as a fault of > Linux, MDK or code slinging experts, just a problem that needs a > solution. I am thankful to have some code slinging experts that are > so willing to help us desktop guys out when we need some code. With > an OS as configurable as Linux, some problems have to be expected. -
Re: [newbie] RPM failures
Hi Sridhar, Thanks again for your help! But what I'm trying to do is avoid the command-line wherever possible and use the long-awaited friendly gui. Especially as I will have to teach it to a lot of utter computer novices in the not distant future. I personally already have enough troubles with the Unix-zone and I've been playing with PC's since before most of our readers were born! My first uni assignment was counting out an allocation of Punch Cards to run/debug a fortran compilation. ( We were only allowed a certain number of cards!!) > > It does show up as installed, it just doesn't start. > > It did not add itself to the Desktop Menu. > > This is normal. Only Mandrake apps will add themselves to the menu, > since Mandrake uses its own menu system. > > > I am attempting to start it from the Konq File Manager Directory. > > As I said before, go to a console and type "hpbuilder". You can > make an icon to do this if you want. > This isn't Windows (thank god!) -- things work differently here. > RPM packaging takes care of installing and uninstalling, so a user > doesn't normally have to look in the programme directories. The RPM > would've installed an executable somewhere in your PATH. All you > have to do is type the executable name from a command line -- in > this case "hpbuilder". > > I don't have a Lexmark printer, but I would say that you need to > configure your printer with CUPS afterwards. Try pointing your web > browser to http://localhost:631/ to configure your printer. > > > APPARENTLY RPM also will not install over an existing program. > > Worse, it won't tell you that it is not listing under > > "installable" because of this. It simply doesn't show up under > > Pack Mgr search. > > You need to 'upgrade' not 'install', if an older package exists. > > You shouldn't need to look for anything. You should just be able to > type the programme executable's name (often this is just the name > of the app) at a command line. Look at its documentation (often in > /usr/doc/appname, /usr/local/doc/appname or /usr/lib/doc/appname) > for details. > > > On this mornings bootup, I suffered the same problem again with > > SCREEM. I downloaded the fixes as advised, reinstalled SCREEM and > > it seemed to work ok, yesterday. > > This AM it froze on startup ( why it was starting up resident I > > do not know) and would not be killed - leaving the same white > > block in centre screen left over from its "splash" . To remove it > > I had to delete SCREEM again. > > You can kill (stronger than a normal close) the app. Load up xkill > and click on the app you want to kill. Or you can issue a "killall > " from the command line. > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > > > Fablor now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (it's only an Autoresponder) :-) -- Cheers, John Fablor now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it's only an Autoresponder) :-)
Re: [newbie] g77 compiling
Norman Teferle wrote: Dear all, can anyone tell me what command line arguments I have to use to compile Fortran 77 code on my Mandrake 8.0 box. The programs were compiled on IRIX6.5 using f77 with following command line options: -32 -O1 -C -r8 -static -check_bounds -c file.f -lv77 Some of these options do not seem to be supported on Linux using g77 and produce numerous compilation errors. The main problem you will find is that, to my knowledge, g77 does not support the option -r8 whichj means set default declaration REAL equivalent to REAL*8. Most of the options are also in g77 you can check them with man g77. Bye -- Renato Tognaccini, Dipartimento di Progettazione Aeronautica, Universita` di Napoli Federico II, Piazzale V. Tecchio 80, 80125 Napoli, ITALIA. tel.: +39-0817682179 fax: +39-0817682187 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
