date:20011127

On Wednesday 28 November 2001 12:52 am, you wrote:
> On 28 Nov 2001, Paul [ISO-8859-1] Rodríguez wrote:
> > I was able to get mplayer installed on my machine, from source, but I
> > wasn't all that impressed.  Take a look at xine.  Much better overall,
> > nicer gui, better playback, etc.  And much easier to install!
>
> Agreed; xine is brilliant, on 7.2.  It installed easily under 8.1 but
> breaks down on running the d4d plugin with a message which implies that
> 8.1 does not support raw devices, out of the box.  What is needed is
> /dev/rdvd.  Does that exist on your system, and if so, how did it get
> there?

xine runs with d4d on my 8.1 machine just fine. I symlinked /dev/hdc (my dvd 
drive) to /dev/dvd. I don't get any error messages.

Matt

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[newbie] gimp print trouble

2001-11-27 Thread Paul Rodríguez


Anybody know why printing would work in ee, mozilla, and command line,
but not the gimp?

-Paul Rodríguez


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Re: [newbie] Searching for Image Browser

2001-11-27 Thread Dennis Myers


On Tuesday 27 November 2001 22:19, you wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:21:02 -0600, Jim Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > I am looking for an image browser, i.e. a program to display a thumbnail
> > image of every .jpg/.gif/.bmp/.png/etc file in a directory.
> >
> > Konqeror has a image preview mode, but it leaves a little to be desired.
> >
> > Ximian Gnome included one that was pretty good, but I don't remember what
> > it is called.
> >
> > Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
> Try http://gqview.sourceforge.net/. It's GTK+-based, and darn fast.
It is also on the 3 CD download set. Nice stuff.
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Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer


On Tuesday 27 November 2001 17:11, you spoke unto me thusly:

> Well, out of all the replies in this thread that I saw, here is one that at
> least offers a possible solution to the original, simple, question. I hate

sorry i can't provide more, i have only seen it, not done it.  was IE 5 
running via wine on a redhat box.

> to get vocal here, but many people on this list continually piss me off
> with their elitist attitude. 

sucks to have the best os i know   ;)

>They are so set and focused on trashing MS
> (which no doubt deserves trashing) that they completely ignore plain,
> simple, and valid questions from subscribers of this list. Friends, THIS IS
> A NEWBIE LIST. Lighten up. Try to help instead of trashing everyone who
> mentions dual booting.

i have no problem with many ms products.  dual boot? nah! i have another 
machine just for win 2000, and recommend it (with a few warnings) to any one 
who doesn't want to tackle linux.  office 97 is also very nice, but IE and 
"lookout!" are worse than bad software, they actually make everything else 
worse.

> If you want to further the Linux and open source
> cause, then focus on that instead of dirty backdoor politics. MS sux, but
> it aint helping any of us to spend days discussing that.

but the backdoor politics should be known, still, as you say, it does 
little to help things.

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[newbie] upgrading 8.0 to 8.1

2001-11-27 Thread Grant Fraser


I give up trying to upgrade a piece at a time. When trying to upgrade to KDE 
2.2.2 I found that it wanted me to install "setup" which conflicts with 
"bash" and I cant force it.

Is there an 8.1 upgrade disk? even with cable internet it still takes 10 
hours to download one ISO. The last time I tried to do that I just got bad 
disks and actually had to go out and pay money for an OS.

I may even have to give up on linux altogether. No sound, crappy video, no 
opengl support. Can you say SIS Chipset?

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Re: [newbie] problems with sis900 on-board network card

2001-11-27 Thread tek1


thx civileme!

it seems to be working now!  thx for all the help!  :)



At 14:45 01/11/27 -0900, you wrote:
>ACK  forgot--go to power Management and set 'ACPI aware OS' to "No"
>
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Re: [newbie] Searching for Image Browser

2001-11-27 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan


On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:21:02 -0600, Jim Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am looking for an image browser, i.e. a program to display a thumbnail image
> of every .jpg/.gif/.bmp/.png/etc file in a directory.
> 
> Konqeror has a image preview mode, but it leaves a little to be desired.
> 
> Ximian Gnome included one that was pretty good, but I don't remember what it
> is called.
> 
> Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Try http://gqview.sourceforge.net/. It's GTK+-based, and darn fast.

-- 
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because people prefers to have something to plug'n'play and not something to
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Re: [newbie] DVD player?

2001-11-27 Thread ethan




well, I tried that, and downloaded gblic the GNU libraries but it also requires
dependencies so I get stuck there. don't they have a "complete" package
somewhere that has no dependencies ? 

Darrin Ritter wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
  Hoi Ethango to http://rpmfind.net and do a search for the missing packages andinstall them.note once you know that you have all the packages you may have to add--nodeps to the rpm command ierpm -ivh --nodeps [package]  but only do this once you know that you have all the packages and whenrpm won't let you install any of them on account of dependencies ie eachpackage requires one of the others, and if this is the case choose thelib rpmRegards Darrinethan wrote:
  
When I tried to install vlc rpm package, I get failed dependencies:[root@localhost ethan]# rpm -ivh vlc*.rpmerror: failed dependencies:libdvdcss.so.1   is needed by vlc-0.2.91-1libSDL-1.1.so.0   is needed by vlc-0.2.91-1[root@localhost ethan]#any idea how to get rid of these dependencies and install a packagefor this ? thank you.civileme wrote:

  On Sunday 25 November 2001 05:28 pm, DJW wrote:
  
Anyone know of a good DVD (Linux Native) player for Linux?TIADJW

Try going to http://www.videolan.org  The DVD player works well, buttheDeCSS isn't legal to use or download, thanks to the DigitalMilleniumCopyright Act.Unfortunately the commercial DVD players are more smoke and mirrorsthananything real, and you have to break the law by downloading DeCSS touselinux to play DVDs if you really choose to use linux to play them.Or elsebuy the right decoder card (they differ by different regions of theworld).Civileme   --Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com



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Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer & fonts

2001-11-27 Thread ethan




speaking of browsers, can any one help me out here by telling me how to beautify
my netsape 6.2 with better fonts ? I already tried webfonts4linux and it
still looks the same although my Kconquerer looks much better. any help is
appreciated. thanks.

Dave Sherman wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
  On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 05:50, Mark D'voo wrote:
  
i agree, galeon is better than any browser to date, the only reason i have wine on my computer right now is for return to castle wolfenstein, but when the linux binaries come out in a week, bye bye wineOn Tuesday 27 November 2001 23:40, you wrote:

  I see no reason to run IE on Linux. Attempting to do so only continuesto vindicate M$.There are many excelent browsers that run great on linux. There's noneed to run M$ crapware on a good operating system.
  
  
  Try to keep in mind that some of us are web designers, and we try totest our websites on all browsers on all platforms, not just Linuxbrowsers.Dave

Re: [newbie] Book recommendations

2001-11-27 Thread tek1


also check out: "linux: the complete reference, 4th ed." by mcgraw hill.

go to amazon, do a search for "linux" books and check out the users reviews... 




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[newbie] Backup MySQL Data

2001-11-27 Thread SKLIM




Hi!
 
I have configure MySQL in my Linux Server. How can 
I backup the data ... ?
I don't have any Backup-Tape Device 
...
Can someone plase give me some information 
?
 
Best Regards,
SKLIM

Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.

2001-11-27 Thread g

Franki wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> 
> Frank McKenna just sent the list the above virus/worm.. the email will
> try to automatically save the file and opens it in media player..

ok. so frank mckenna sent list a virus/worm.

well, not really... virus/worm sent itself.

frank did not send virus/worm intentionally, with malaise or malice.

shit happens when you eat regularly. virus/worm happen when you use ms.

when did this virus get sent? what was 'subject:'?

if you are going to inform, please inform. tho from 'hate mail' sent to
list, you should have informed frank off list.

i have check thru all messages from this list for all messages sent by
frank, and i have yet to find any indication of a virus. only attachments
were mandrake's attached pack/service spam.

even check norton antivirus for any quarantines and there were none.

if this virus/worm got thru to my systems, i would like to clean it out.
as i am sure anyone else using ms would like to do.

one thing that i did note for sure. those who replied blasting frank and
microsoft, do not seem to know how to cut out unneeded quotes. but that
seems to be norm for this list.

no, i do not like ms bs. have not liked it from first dos version he
stoled from digital research. but, like others, i have to use it because
of clients that have to use it.

this is not a perfect world, nor is usa a perfect country. if it was,
bg would still be in jail and we would all still be enjoying unix,
cp/m, cdos, and drdos.

frank, glad you were able to get your system cleaned up frank. i lost 2.5
months of work thanks to a trojan sent by ole.

as a suggestion, for those having to use ms, drop ie and ole. use netscape
or some other good msos browser and mail handler. install norton antivirus,
or what ever, and keep it updated.

tc,hago.

g
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[newbie] LM8.0 konqueror crashing

2001-11-27 Thread R & C


Hi All,

I set my up my LM8.0 for three users. Root, Me and my Son!

I've had no problems until tonight. My son tells me that 
his konqueror keeps crashing. I went to his login session 
and tried to launch konq from the terminal. It tells me the 
following:

KCrash: Application Name = konqueror path = 

Now this is just the reference to the crash for this 
particular application. There are many other errors listed.

Does this line tell me that konq cannot be found?

and if so, what file do I put the correct path into and 
what correct path would that be? assuming this is my 
problem!

BTW, I changed the name of 
/home/myson/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/profiles/filemanagement 
 -> to oldfilemanagement

then I copied my filemanagement file to his! (I only did 
this because the paths listed in my file was the complete 
path to this file and his was just /home/myson

anyway, konq seems to be the only application crashing. I 
did have problems with KMail crashing but I found the "file 
lock" box checked in KPPP so I unmarked the box and KMail 
now loads fine.

???

TIA
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[newbie] Backup MySQL Data

2001-11-27 Thread SKLIM




Hi!
 
I have configure MySQL in my Linux Server. How can 
I backup the data ... ?
 
I don't have any Backup-Tape Device 
...
Can someone plase give me some information 
?
 
 
Best Regards,
SKLIM

Re: [newbie] GL games crash xserver

2001-11-27 Thread Erylon Hines


On Tuesday 27 November 2001 06:49, you wrote:
> Erylon Hines wrote:
>.  My logs show dri and glx
> > are loading successfully, and the Mesa  toys (Mesa gears, morph, reflect)
> > work fine, and so do the gl screensavers.  The only error after the crash
> > is:
> >
> > kdm[1081]: Server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly: 2816
>

> Anyways, if its -fullscreen- games that are breaking, and windowed software
> like gears is working, I'm betting you are using a graphical login. Don't.
> Use the text logon. KDM causes 3D accelerated stuff to crash. Just use a
> text login, then "startx"...then run your software and see if it doesn't
> run!
>
> Hope this helps.

Oh YEAH!!  That was it!  Thanks darklord

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Re: [newbie] No printing in 8.1 now

2001-11-27 Thread Linus Drouhard



>
> Thank you for your suggestions. The lpq command tells me that xpp is ready
> and printing with an active job listed that belongs to me. Unfortunately
> the job is not printing. That is the problem. The strange thing is the
> printing worked for a couple of days although it needed tweaking for
> quality. Then out of the blue it stopped working. Has anyone had a similar
> situation that they were able to fix? Thanks for any help.
>
>
Yes, I've had similar experiences.  The only way that I've been able to 
recover was to delete all instances of my printer and reinstall the printer 
drivers from scratch with PrinterDrake.  I gave the printer a new "name" and 
used the new name.  I know there must be a better way, but when you're 
desparate, anything that works... good luck!

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Re: [newbie] Servers


On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 20:32, Robert Boggs wrote:
> In windows I have a small network set up. I use netbeui, and I wish to do the 
> same in linux using Samba, with netbeui. Can anyone tell me how to set these 
> up. I really like the new Mandrake. I think I may go to it as my full time 
> system. My wife, however cannot do this, as she is blind and has JAWS for 
> windows, and there is not any GUI talkers for linux, that we know of. This is 
> why I must set her systems up to access my box from Widows. I wish someone 
> could make a system for linux that would talk in x and gnome and KDE. Please 
> help. You may E-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], if you wish.

As far as I know, Samba only works with TCP/IP networks. I could be
wrong.

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[newbie] Servers

2001-11-27 Thread Robert Boggs


In windows I have a small network set up. I use netbeui, and I wish to do the 
same in linux using Samba, with netbeui. Can anyone tell me how to set these 
up. I really like the new Mandrake. I think I may go to it as my full time 
system. My wife, however cannot do this, as she is blind and has JAWS for 
windows, and there is not any GUI talkers for linux, that we know of. This is 
why I must set her systems up to access my box from Widows. I wish someone 
could make a system for linux that would talk in x and gnome and KDE. Please 
help. You may E-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], if you wish.




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Re: [newbie] Searching for Image Browser

2001-11-27 Thread Paul Rodríguez

GQview, included in most Gnome installs is a very fast and useful image
browser.  You can set it to view thumbnails as well.

-Paul Rodríguez

On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 13:21, Jim Dawson wrote:
> I am looking for an image browser, i.e. a program to display a thumbnail image of 
>every .jpg/.gif/.bmp/.png/etc file in a directory.
> 
> Konqeror has a image preview mode, but it leaves a little to be desired.
> 
> Ximian Gnome included one that was pretty good, but I don't remember what it is 
>called.
> 
> Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> =_1006885351-1851-5291
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Re: [newbie] Book recommendations

2001-11-27 Thread hardcorepush


Those books will help you run linux. Ive done some reading about the community. Check 
"The Cathedral and the Bazzare", "The Joy of Linux", Linus' Bio is great. "Hackers" by 
Steven Levy should come with every computer sold. 
rob



On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:45:29 -0600
Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 27 November 2001 17:07, you wrote:
> > Santa just asked me what I want for Christmas. A Linux reference book,
> > of course. But which book? Dennis Myers has already recommended
> > O'Reilly's "Linux in a Nutshell". Any other recommendations?
> >
> > Ho, ho, ho...
> > Warren
> Yea, one other one, O'Reilly's Running Linux,   third addition. I use it 
> alot. Even understand some of it. Hohoho :  )
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Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer

2001-11-27 Thread Flotcho

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 11:54 am, shane wrote:
> not again...
>
> first, you can run it by setting up wine.  that is all i know, i don't use
> it or wine, but there it is, second..
>
> you can use konqueror, netscape, mozilla, opera, galleon, hell use lynx
> even, why use the biggest POS ever built???
>
> or as a web page i once saw said:
>
> Where do you want to go today?
>
> Straight to hell, apparently.

Well, out of all the replies in this thread that I saw, here is one that at 
least offers a possible solution to the original, simple, question. I hate to 
get vocal here, but many people on this list continually piss me off with 
their elitist attitude. They are so set and focused on trashing MS (which no 
doubt deserves trashing) that they completely ignore plain, simple, and valid 
questions from subscribers of this list. Friends, THIS IS A NEWBIE LIST. 
Lighten up. Try to help instead of trashing everyone who mentions dual 
booting. If you want to further the Linux and open source cause, then focus 
on that instead of dirty backdoor politics. MS sux, but it aint helping any 
of us to spend days discussing that.

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[newbie] Internet connection and LAN don't get along

2001-11-27 Thread Warren Post


Several people on this list have noted this problem:


> If you have a local area network, 2 or more computers connected, and you
> setup the LAN and eth0 during install, there is a bug in 8.1 that seems to
> stop the internet connection.  Try going to a console and su>root passwd> and
> then tlype "ifdown eth0" then back to the desktop and try connecting to
> internet again.
>

(Quoting Dennis Myers). I have encountered this problem not once but
twice. The first time was upon installation. I was able to fix it using
Dark Lord's advice to edit the nameservers declared in /etc/resolv.conf.
Then yesterday the problem returned after running the Internet
Connection Sharing wizard. The wizard did not change the nameservers in
/etc/resolv.conf, and I've searched in vain for files changed yesterday
that mention "nameserver".

Dennis's workaround of taking down the LAN before connecting to the
Internet works, but does anyone know a permanent solution to this
problem?

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] The problem with Linux

2001-11-27 Thread Chris Keelan

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 03:47 am, Michel Clasquin wrote:

> And after all that, I go and use Xfce and maintain the menus by hand!

``vi ~/.enlightenment/user_apps.menu'' seems to be the most useful menuconfig 
tool on my box.

> One in every crowd, huh?

Two.

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Re: [newbie] Book recommendations

2001-11-27 Thread Dennis Myers


On Tuesday 27 November 2001 17:07, you wrote:
> Santa just asked me what I want for Christmas. A Linux reference book,
> of course. But which book? Dennis Myers has already recommended
> O'Reilly's "Linux in a Nutshell". Any other recommendations?
>
> Ho, ho, ho...
> Warren
Yea, one other one, O'Reilly's Running Linux,   third addition. I use it 
alot. Even understand some of it. Hohoho :  )
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Re: [newbie] Clock Synchronization

2001-11-27 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz

thanks big and bitter tom. ;-) ill get around it when i do my reinstall today (or 
tomorrow, depending on the schedule)

ciao!

On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 07:23:20 -0500, Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

   On Tuesday 27 November 2001 09:44 am, Anuerin G.Diaz wrote:
   > hi to all,
   >
   >this is one problem that I shelved that i remembered just now...
   >
   >how do I synchonize the linux clock with the BIOS clock? The
   > timezone here is GMT+8. If I select 'Manila' in the timezone, the
   > BIOS clock gets out of whack. Setting the clock to GMT or not does
   > not help. I found a workaround by not selecting any timezone but Im
   > hoping to find a proper way wherein all my pc clocks (especially
   > when Im changing OSes) are synchronized and I still am in the right
   > timezone.
   >
   > thanks!

  hwclock --hctosys
 Set the System Time from the Hardware Clock.

  hwclock --systohc
 Set the Hardware Clock to the current System Time.

 (see  man hwclock)   I use this alias in bashrc to set both 
   hardware and software clocks to a time server (U of Houston)

   alias tdate="rdate -p -s tick.uh.edu && hwclock --systohc"

  You'll probly need to install rdate, it's on your CD's. You'll 
   also need to find a public time server in your time zone (Google).

   -- 
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Re: [newbie] Clock Synchronization

2001-11-27 Thread Anuerin G.Diaz



thanks a lot guys... i just heard that I will be issued a new machine today so I will 
have to reinstall everything. i guess i have to do some praying now. ;-)

ciao!


On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 04:56:11 -0500, "Jose M. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

   It's on the CD's
   
   Not installed by default.
   
   -JMS
   
   
   |-Original Message-
   |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Anuerin G.Diaz
   |Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:20 AM
   |To: mandrake
   |Subject: Re: [newbie] Clock Synchronization
   |
   |
   |
   |im using LM8.1 and i dont have any rdate executable, either as 
   |an ordinary user or as root. ill try to find one tomorrow when 
   |my net connection resumes here in the office. ;-)
   |
   |ciao!
   |
   

   


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Re: [newbie] install newbie

2001-11-27 Thread skidley


On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, caspar kennerdale wrote:

> I just installed 8.1 on a linux partition (my computer also has win 2k on
> it)
>
>
> I have two questions-
>
> fistly lilo has set a defualt of 5 seconds to choose the desired os./ Can
> this be changedto 30 secs or whatever I want? where do I change it- i've
> looked in the boot folder and have found a message documsnt but it cant be
> edited.
>
> Also how do I start xwindows or navigate through the installed software.
>
> When mandrake opens i give my user and p word on the cpomand line.
>
> I can navigate through the folder but most of ot seems to be system files.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
For your lilo question, open /etc/lilo.conf with an editor like pico or
joe thats easy as you seem to be real new. eg, pico /etc/lilo.conf (as
root) Within the first few lines you'll see an option: timeout=50, this is in
milliseconds, You can change it to 300 for 30 secs or whatever you want.
Save the edited file andthen at command line type lilo and enter to rerun
lilo and update it. To start X at the command line type startx. You can
use other commands for different desktops but for a start just type
startx.
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[newbie] htdig

2001-11-27 Thread Robin Ballantine


Hi all,   I have htdig setup on my machine just to search my local files. It 
works fine, but the only way I could get it to work was by having to setup 
and run the apache web-server.  Can anyone please tell me if its possible to 
use the htdig search engine without having to run apache.  
Thanks, Robin

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Re: [newbie] Book recommendations

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 05:07 pm, you wrote:
> Santa just asked me what I want for Christmas. A Linux reference book,
> of course. But which book? Dennis Myers has already recommended
> O'Reilly's "Linux in a Nutshell". Any other recommendations?

Stuff along the lines of "Linux in a Nutshell" or references to other aspects 
of Linux? 

"Running Linux", also from O'Reilly, is also a good general reference for 
Linux. If you plan to do any networking the "Linux Network Administrators 
Guide" pretty much covers it all. Also from O'Reilly (also available for free 
at www.linuxdoc.org if you don't mind an electronic version).

I've found, generally speaking, you can't go wrong with O'Reilly.

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[newbie] Book recommendations

2001-11-27 Thread Warren Post


Santa just asked me what I want for Christmas. A Linux reference book,
of course. But which book? Dennis Myers has already recommended
O'Reilly's "Linux in a Nutshell". Any other recommendations?

Ho, ho, ho...
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Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer

2001-11-27 Thread Ed Tharp


On Tuesday 27 November 2001 16:52, you wrote:



> so complain to the DOJ they let ms give away a crap browser despite being
> guilty of abusing their monopoly
>
don't you just know the settlement will allow the to offer "discount" pricing 
to poor schools, so a dis-advantaged school can get a OS worth about 12 
dollars, at a discounted price of only 40 dollars, instead of 110.00 since MS 
was bad.   



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Re: [newbie] install newbie

On Thursday 29 November 2001 04:01 pm, you wrote:

> fistly lilo has set a defualt of 5 seconds to choose the desired os./ Can
> this be changedto 30 secs or whatever I want? 

the file you want is /etc/lilo.conf

in there is a setting for timeout. You can change that to adjust how long it 
waits before booting.

After making the change, you need to run lilo to make it take effect. Just 
type "lilo" at the prompt.

All of what I just said about lilo needs to be done as root (type "su" then 
enter your root's password).

> Also how do I start xwindows or navigate through the installed software.
>
"startx" at the prompt should start x. You can also set it up so X start at 
boot.

> When mandrake opens i give my user and p word on the cpomand line.
>
> I can navigate through the folder but most of ot seems to be system files.

Make sure you are not root when you use your machine. Root is for 
administrating and if you use it as a regular account it wont be long before 
you screw something up :) Linux gives root full rule of the roost. But it 
makes sure regular accounts don't harm things. If you are using a regular 
account, you can pretty safely explore. Although I wouldn't recommend 
randomly trying things.

The book "Running Linux" from OReilly will get you comfortable with Linux 
very quickly, at least it did for me. it's $35, but well worth it IMO.

Be careful, you may not want to use Win2K much after you get the feel for 
linux :)

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[newbie] To Mandrake Development Team

2001-11-27 Thread Alex K



 Hello,

 I have few suggestions to make regarding the install
procedure, more precisley about the Upgrade feature in
LM

Last week I upgraded from LM80 to LM81. Previously my
system was loaded from LM80 Power Pack.
The upgrade was made using the "Download Edition" of
LM81

Now comes my questions and also my suggestions:

I booted from cdrom drive and I choused to upgrade.
The install program told me that I must wait until
builds the list of programs to be upgraded.

That step went fine.

But now comes a step which confused me a little bit:

After the list was built, the usual dialog which
displays which programs I should "Install" (Internet
Workstation, Office Workstation, etc.) was on my
screen.

At the bottom of my screen shortly was explained my
choices in the following way:

"If I chouse not to select any of the choices from the
 above dialog already described the program will just
Upgrade according with the list he build, but:

"I can select any of the configurations presented on
the dialog (already described)."

That confused me:

I think this dialog should not be displayed as long I
am "Upgrading my system". It supposed that the upgrade
procedure already knows what to upgrade and don't make
any sense to let this window be displayed.

Personally I choused to click on all configurations
described by this dialog, supposing that the so called
"Upgrade procedure" will not only upgrade but also
will install those rpms according with my choices made
on this dialog.

It is exaclty what happened. I ended up not only
upgrading but also installing another 2 Gygabyte of
software. That made me nervous.

In my opinion you should change the upgrade procedure.
You have two choices:
1. You build the list with the applications to be
upgraded and automatically upgrade.
2. Build a list with basic things which are mandatory
to be upgraded and let the user to chouse what he
wants to upgrade from that point on.

Another question will be:

"Can I un-upgrade (if I can say so), meaning to go
back to LM80 ?"

If this option is possible I think you should include
it in your install procedure.

Another issue is related to Lilo entries after
upgrading.

The lilo now displays the old links which were under
LM80 with the prefix "old". If those links in lilo
don't point to the old LM80 imho these links should be
deleted after upgrading operation is finished.


Best regards,
Alex


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Re: [newbie] sparc install: where is the network???

2001-11-27 Thread Jason Kary


Steve,

Sun's use either the 'le' driver or the 'hme' driver.  This is 
configured by the kernel and may be a loadable module.  In order to have 
your eth0 seen properly you need to do the following (assuming you have 
the kernel module):

1) cd /lib/modules//net  ( to get too the list of modules. )
2) insmod hme.o  (assuming it's there )
3) ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1  (should bring up the interface)
4) dhcpcd -i eth0  ( ask for an IP addr ).

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>You need to find out what kind of network chipset your Ultra 2 station came 
>with, or buy another network interface card that can be seen by mandrake's 
>hard drake.
>
>Your Sun documentation SHOULD tell you what came with your computer, and it 
>will be specific enough that you can find the correct adaptor.  I cannot give 
>you the exact answer because I have worked on mainly the Solaris versions of 
>xnix  (on E250s or bigger), so they aren't the same.  I can tell you that 
>Sun's documentation is pretty thurough and you can start there.
>
>Sorry so little guidance.
>
>Steve Weltman
>
>On Monday 26 November 2001 05:48 pm, you wrote:
>
>>I installed mandrake from the iso image onto a sun
>>ultra2.  i got everything up and running but no
>>network can be seen.  ifconfig -a only shows the
>>loopback.  Now the question: do i need to install
>>another ethernet card???  from KDE, what is the device
>>and the kernel module that I am to load???
>>
>>Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>>
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[newbie] install newbie

2001-11-27 Thread caspar kennerdale


I just installed 8.1 on a linux partition (my computer also has win 2k on
it)


I have two questions-

fistly lilo has set a defualt of 5 seconds to choose the desired os./ Can
this be changedto 30 secs or whatever I want? where do I change it- i've
looked in the boot folder and have found a message documsnt but it cant be
edited.

Also how do I start xwindows or navigate through the installed software.

When mandrake opens i give my user and p word on the cpomand line.

I can navigate through the folder but most of ot seems to be system files.



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Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer


so complain to the DOJ they let ms give away a crap browser despite being 
guilty of abusing their monopoly

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 10:20, you spoke unto me thusly:

> Try to keep in mind that some of us are web designers, and we try to
> test our websites on all browsers on all platforms, not just Linux
> browsers.
>
> Dave

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Re: [newbie] y linux sucks (humor)

2001-11-27 Thread A V Flinsch

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 12:40, you wrote:
>
> Yeah, my big problem is I can't decide! Linux should come with just one
> browser! That way I don't have the choice problem.

Tell me about it, but it is not the choice of browsers that I have a 
problem with, it is the 30 different window managers I have installed. 
One for each day of the month!

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Re: [newbie] y linux sucks (humor)

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 11:40 am, you wrote:

> Yeah, my big problem is I can't decide! Linux should come with just one
> browser! That way I don't have the choice problem.

I'm always curious about different distros. I've only (briefly) tried RedHat 
and Caldera. I want to get another computer to mess with other linux/BSD 
distros.

> At the moment I just open a different browser on different desktops
> (including Lynx) for the hell of it.
> Deffinitly UN-productive:) Al least let there be a bad one among them so I
> can kick one out:( 

Oh there is, Netscape still comes with Mandrake.

> Did I hear someone wanting IE on Linux
> Definitly De Sade

Porting the Mac IE to Linux would be awesome. Everyone forgets, there really 
does exist an excellent version of IE.

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Re: [newbie] Automounting problem

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 03:12 pm, Stewart Taylor wrote:
> Tom Brinkman wrote:
> >The 'old' supermount became incompatible with newer 2.4.x
> > kernels. To the point (IIRC) it was completely broken by 2.4.6. 
> > So the Mandrake developers completely rewrote supermount to work
> > with the new kernels.  This process takes time and testing, and
> > by 2.4.13 they've got it working properly again.
> >
> >If you want a more indepth understanding of this Robin, search
> > the last few months on
> > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker for 'supermount'.
>
> Where can I get this update, so far I've not been able to find it.
>
> Stewart

  The 'update' is to install a 2.4.13 Mandrake kernel. This will most 
likely require an initscripts and iptables upgrade also. Newest 
2.4.13's might require an lm_sensors upgrade also

   All these files can be d/l'd from cooker mirrors. I use the ready 
made kernel, but src.rpms for the others
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3

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Re: [newbie] Searching for Image Browser

2001-11-27 Thread Dave


You might try--
Nautilus -- A Gnome file manager
It works pretty good for me.
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Browser: Opera
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On Tuesday 27 November 2001 12:21 pm, you wrote:
> I am looking for an image browser, i.e. a program to display a thumbnail
> image of every .jpg/.gif/.bmp/.png/etc file in a directory.
>
> Konqeror has a image preview mode, but it leaves a little to be desired.
>
> Ximian Gnome included one that was pretty good, but I don't remember what
> it is called.
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.





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Re: [newbie] Automounting problem

2001-11-27 Thread Stewart Taylor


Tom Brinkman wrote:
 
>The 'old' supermount became incompatible with newer 2.4.x kernels.
> To the point (IIRC) it was completely broken by 2.4.6.  So the
> Mandrake developers completely rewrote supermount to work with the
> new kernels.  This process takes time and testing, and by 2.4.13
> they've got it working properly again.
> 
>If you want a more indepth understanding of this Robin, search the
> last few months on http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker
> for 'supermount'.


Where can I get this update, so far I've not been able to find it.

Stewart



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Re: [newbie] sound does work but xmms dont - mandrake 8.1

2001-11-27 Thread bascule

len, if arst is your problem but you don't have kd then perhaps you have the 
wrong plugin selected in xmms?

options>prefernces>outputplugin select oss

i wouldn't have thought you'd have the arts plugin if you didn't have kde but 
if you are trying to configure arts but don't have kde then i guess you must,

sorry if i am completely missing the point of previous posts in this thread, 
it just looks to me like people are trying to help you solve the wrong 
problem! :-)
 sorry if tis has been mentioned before

bascule

On Tuesday 27 Nov 2001 8:06 pm, you wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
> > I don't want to retype what I wrote before... So refer to my prior
>

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Re: [newbie] No printing in 8.1 now

2001-11-27 Thread Marcia


Dear Harm,

Thank you for your suggestions. The lpq command tells me that xpp is ready 
and printing with an active job listed that belongs to me. Unfortunately the 
job is not printing. That is the problem. The strange thing is the printing 
worked for a couple of days although it needed tweaking for quality. Then out 
of the blue it stopped working. Has anyone had a similar situation that they 
were able to fix? Thanks for any help.

Sincerely,

Marcia

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 12:52 pm, you wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 November 2001 17:34, you wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I have recently installed Linux-mandrake 8.1. I have an Epson Stylus
> > Color printer which worked fine with cups in 7.2 and after a fix from
> > Till worked eventually in 8. I thought it was going to work great in 8.1.
> > It worked at first and then decided to not work on its own. It first
> > started to spit out paper with colorful code, then blank pages, and now
> > it just does not print at all. It just queues up jobs that never go
> > anywhere. I went to Mandrake Forum and found out that this is a problem
> > for many and there have been no answers provided there. Does anyone have
> > any ideas how to fix this? Should I forget cups and try a different
> > printing system? I even purchased turboprint which does not work either.
> > Any help here will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Marcia
>
> Take careful note of the print commands in the pop-up windows!
> Apparently Mandrake still hobbles along on two horses -- every now and then
> when using a new apps (or printing from there the first time) I see the
> 'lpr' command again. On replacing it with 'qtcups' usually gives me the
> right printer or at least
>
> Check your spool with the "lpq' command on a console.
>
> Good luck,
> Harm Bathoorn



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Re: [newbie] K7S5A sound [was: problems with sis900 network card / changing screen resolution]

2001-11-27 Thread Frans Ketelaars


On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 00:11:01 +
Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday 26 November 2001 21:59, you wrote:
> > On Monday 26 November 2001 01:58 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
> > > > Interesting, I have a K7s5A and the SiS900 set up out of the box.
> > >
> > > Off subject Civileme-  I guess you have tried the 2.4.13 kernel.  Does it
> > > support the onboard sound on your k7s5a ?
> > >
> > > If so I'll have a go at upgrading.
> > >
> > > Derek
> >
> > Forget it.  The sound driver has been around since kernel 2.3.40 but the
> > arrangement and the BIOS of that K7S5A manage to hide it from detection.
> >
> > It is the SiS 7018.
> >
> 
> The SiS735 sound systen is the SiS7012.
> I have seen a change note saying it was supposedly supported in 2.4.10 and 
> Oss (not free) claims to support it, so I was hoping the support was present 
> in 2.4.13.
> 
> Derek
> 
> 
> 
> > Civileme



From: Vassilis Papadimos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] SiS 7012 soundchip
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:04:55 -0800
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User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i


> I've an Elitegroup K7S5A mainboard with the SiS 735 chipset and
> on-board-sound using the SiS 7012 chip. 

Me too; Not a bad motherboard for its price.

> I found a patch for the 0.5.11 or the 0.9beta alsa driver at
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=390603&group_id=27464&func=browse .
> Can you recommend this patch?

I believe this patch is included in the current CVS (incorporated in
the snd-card-intel8x0 module). I installed a recent CVS snapshot,
and it works great (it took me some time to figure out that I had
to disable ADC/DAC loopback in amixer though!)

Many thanks to Mike Pieper for that patch!

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[newbie] xine and raw dvd device

2001-11-27 Thread Len Lawrence



Hi folks

This is getting worse and worse.  8.1 is a giant step backwards from
7.2.  Wherever I turn there are problems, which simply did not exist
in 7.2.  After the sound saga - still not resolved for xmms - I find
that xine will not play DVDs because it cannot find the raw device
/dev/rdvd.  Does Mandrake expect one to construct the whole system by
hand?  How to install one of these special devices?  Presumably the
command involves mknod, but what are the parameters for /dev/rdvd?

Just about at the end of my tether.  Should I go back to 7.2?

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RE: [newbie] sound does work but xmms dont - mandrake 8.1

2001-11-27 Thread Len Lawrence


On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Jose M. Sanchez wrote:

>
> I don't want to retype what I wrote before... So refer to my prior
> postings...
>
> But some notes are in order.
>
> After I wrote this someone else found that devfs must be set to
> automount for things to work.
Don't know how to do that.  Edit fstab and put auto somewhere in the devfs
line?

>
> You must remove ALL sound and sound related modules from
> /etc/modules.conf and reboot.
Did that, twice.

>
> All ALSA related RPM's must be installed.
>
> Let the Mandrake Control center set things up for you, NOT sndconfig.
Done.
>
> Don't worry about not hearing anything initially, DISREGUARD that you
> don't.
OK.
>
> Set KDE to 48kHz and turn ON alsa support.
Incomprehensible.  Don't have KDE.  As I said earlier, alsa is checked to
start at boot but never does.  (But, root can run xmms!)
>
> Set AUXMIX levels then in KDE's control center SAVE the mixer volumes.
> This sets up ALSA-ctrl's configurations to reset the volumes as system
> bootup.
Set up aumix under Gnome.  That has a direct effect on volume levels.
>
> Here is what a typical "lsmod" will look like. If you don't see all of
> this start over...
>
> Module  Size  Used by
> agpgart26752   3  (autoclean)
> NVdriver  715200  20  (autoclean)
> joydev  6176   0  (unused)
> emu10k1-gp  1456   0  (unused)
> analog  7488   0  (unused)
> gameport1856   0  [emu10k1-gp analog]
> input   3648   0  [joydev analog]
> snd-synth-emu10k1   4432   0  (autoclean)
> snd-synth-emux 26784   0  (autoclean) [snd-synth-emu10k1]
> snd-seq-midi-emul   4944   0  (autoclean) [snd-synth-emux]
> snd-seq-virmidi 8304   0  (autoclean) [snd-synth-emux]
> snd-seq-midi3552   0  (autoclean) (unused)
> snd-seq-oss28944   0
> snd-seq-midi-event  3216   0  [snd-seq-virmidi snd-seq-midi
> snd-seq-oss]
> snd-seq41856   0  [snd-synth-emux snd-seq-virmidi
> snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
> snd-pcm-oss18624   0
> snd-pcm-plugin 15792   0  [snd-pcm-oss]
> snd-mixer-oss   4800   0  [snd-pcm-oss]
> snd-card-emu10k12368   0
> snd-emu10k122320   0  [snd-synth-emu10k1 snd-card-emu10k1]
> snd-pcm31616   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin
> snd-emu10k1]
> snd-timer   8528   0  [snd-seq snd-pcm]
> snd-rawmidi10048   0  [snd-seq-midi snd-emu10k1]
> snd-emux-mem1776   0  [snd-synth-emux snd-emu10k1]
> snd-ac97-codec 25056   0  [snd-emu10k1]
> snd-mixer  24544   0  [snd-mixer-oss snd-emu10k1
> snd-ac97-codec]
> snd-seq-device  3984   0  [snd-synth-emu10k1 snd-synth-emux
> snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-card-emu10k1 snd-rawmidi]
> snd35248   1  [snd-synth-emux snd-seq-virmidi
> snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss
> snd-pcm-plugin snd-mixer-oss snd-card-emu10k1 snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm
> snd-timer snd-rawmidi snd-emux-mem snd-ac97-codec snd-mixer
> snd-seq-device]
> soundcore   4208   9  [snd]
--- snip ---
Mine is similar.  However, I note that agpgart (same size as yours)
is Used by 0 (unused).  Is _this_ something to do with aRts?
>
> Here is my /etc/modules.conf for point of reference, as set up by
> Mandrake Control Center
>
> alias net-pf-4 ipx
> alias autofs autofs4
> pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
> alias usb-interface usb-uhci
> probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
> alias eth0 3c59x
> alias char-major-81 bttv
> alias char-major-195 NVdriver
> alias char-major-67 coda
> alias char-major-15 joydev
> alias char-major-116 snd
> alias char-major-14 soundcore
> alias snd-card-0 snd-card-emu10k1
> alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> alias char-major-13 input
> above input joydev emu10k1-gp analog gameport
-- snip --

And here is mine

pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
alias usb-interface usb-uhci
probeall scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx
alias scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx
alias char-major-116 snd
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-emu10k1
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

But, I still get connection error to aRts sound server under lcl.
root, again has no problem.  There must be some sort of access
problem here (low security install).  Where does this server come
from and how do you tell if it is installed?  I guess it must be installed
or root would not be able to run xmms.  Down to access again.  What to
check?

So

Re: [newbie] Searching for Image Browser

2001-11-27 Thread Bryan S.Tyson


On Tuesday 27 November 2001 13:21, Jim wrote:

> > I am looking for an image browser, i.e. a program to display a
> thumbnail image of every .jpg/.gif/.bmp/.png/etc file in a directory.

I recommend Compupic

http://www.photodex.com/

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[newbie] gShield and mdk8.1



Hi all,

I have mdk8.1 with kernel 2.4.18-9 and iptables 1.2.4

and I downloaded gShield (2.7.1), which is probably the best firewall app I
have seen for iptables

(I was a big fan of the rule layout in pmfirewall, great for hacking your
own rules)

so anyway, gShield seems like a fantastic piece of work,, very comprehensive
and does port forwaring, nat,
mac address filtering, the whole bit, and very simply as well..

so all was going well, I configured it, and when I ran it, I got this:

iptables v1.2.4: no command specified

now thats annoying,, I had a look though the script, but I couldn't find the
problem,,

has anyone else used this firewall with 8.1? did it work?

gShield get an excellent review in a comparison I saw recently, but the
layout is great, and it does alot of
cool stuff, so I really want to get it sussed.


rgds

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Re: [newbie] Configuring a LAN card

2001-11-27 Thread bascule


you will need to specify io as hex i..e 0x210

bascule

On Tuesday 27 Nov 2001 6:45 pm, you wrote:
> I have tried both the autoprobe option and manually entering the IRQ and IO
> settings. I'm entering IRQ as "10" and IO as "210", which is what they are.
> Is that format correct, or do I need to do something like "0x210" or
> "210-21F"?
>
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RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.

keh???

nope, I am not a network admin at a uni, I am a net admin for an online
payment gateway,,
among other things... so when I am at home, (and I do all my talking to this
list from home..
I don't really have more resouces then the average schmoo  :-)

I got hacked once long ago, (redhat 6.2 wu-ftp) and it made me ultra
paranoid,

and since then I have not had any box under my protection hacked (that I
have been able to verify anyway),
caught a virus, or anything else detrimental, since I get about 1000 emails
a day, I get alot of virus's,
so I had to learn quick how to deal with it.. especially since I have alot
of windows users on our network
that I can't do anything about, I just protect them as I can. (and before
you say anything Tom, they all run
apps that can't be swapped over to linux... otherwise I would have already.)

rgds

Frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank McKenna
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 3:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.

Hi All,

I am virus free but it took awhile.   My apologies to all.  It appears that
I caught the virus from a Samba list.

Just my two cents about comments from this list

> > you might want to check your system Frank...
> > Franki

Franki, you've been a big help and I have apreciated your advice but, if I
remember correctly, you are Network Admin at a Uni so you definitely have
more recourses at your disposal than the humble newbie such as myself.

Tom, you have been a good resource to people as well and I have read with
great interest some of the helpful replies that you have posted.

Maybe you'd like to come up here and get one of the five modems that I have
(three of which are definitely supposed to work on Linux) WORKING.  I have
followed directions, installed drivers, etc.   I have had all modems
detected in the BIOS but no of them worked and one even caused my system to
crash to the point that it was unrecoverable

I can't ignore your arrogance and pomposity with comments such as this " to
(ignorant, computer illiterate) Winblows users lists and
> newsgroups. You'll be very busy on a daily basis  ... mostly" taken from
your rant below.  Where do you get off saying crap like this.  We all have
to start somewhere and connecting to this list by any means possible is a
godsend to newbies

Just my two cents

- Original Message -
From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.

> On Monday 26 November 2001 12:13 pm, Franki wrote:
>
> > you might want to check your system Frank...
> > Franki
>
>You need to check your system Franki since you sent with:
>
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700
> Importance: Normal
>
>WHICH is a guaranteed virus transmission propagater to other
> Windoze users, and pretty much fsck'ups the Net in general, even
> fellow Linux users who have to put up with the damage y'all
> propulgate to Net servers, and the stolen banwidth y'all suck up.
>
>I dunno how to convince y'all   NEVER connect to the Net with, any
> M$ product. There is no way to secure or defend an M$ system.
> (period).  You can only buy/beg/borrow a bunch of ineffective
> firewalls and virus scanners for M$ crap. Then, the only thing you've
> accomplished is to fool yourself.
>
>If you dual boot, delete anything Winblows has to do with
> connecting to the Net, unplug the phone line.  Then you've got some
> security, at least till you buy a CD or floppy with a winblows virus
> on it.  Buy a real modem and use a real OS to connect.
>
>   It amazes me that some people who do run Linux (part time), believe
> that connecting with Windoze is a good, or even tolerable idea.
> Specially on this (Linux) list. Winsux virus warnings to this list
> are OFF TOPIC, immaterial, and border on ridiculous. Post these
> warnings to (ignorant, computer illiterate) Winblows users lists and
> newsgroups. You'll be very busy on a daily basis  ... mostly you'll
> be weeks, even months and years behind
>
>  Jeez, in a perfect world, Winblows users wouldn't be allowed to
> connect.
>
>   ... there ought'a be a law
>
> --
> Tom Brinkman   Galveston Bay, USA
>
>
>
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Re: Re: [newbie] Modem setup help required

2001-11-27 Thread Allen Joseph M Hernandez

Does if have jumpers on board?

It'll be alot easier to configure if you set it to a specific com port
like COM3, and maybe IRQ4, if it won't conflict with your serial devices.

I've had problems with plug and play so I disabled it.
If you're running a dual-boot machine look at its COM, IRQ and PORT 
settings on windows so you can set it up with

setserial /dev/ttyS3 irq 4 port yabadayabada.

on /etc/rc.d/rc.serial, then do

ln -s /dev/ttyS3 /dev/modem

or better yet use modemconf, it'll do it for you.

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>quaylar wrote:
>
>> At 10:48 27.11.2001 +, you wrote:
>> >Can someone guide me step by step in simple language please how I
>> >install a US Robotics 33.6 Sportster Modem on 8.0?
>> >
>> >Many thanks
>> >
>> >Gordon
>>
>> gordon,
>>
>> try out this excellent guide :
>>
>> http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cppp.html
>>
>> hth
>>
>> --qu
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Re: [newbie] y linux sucks (humor)

2001-11-27 Thread Michel Clasquin

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 17:51, you wrote:
> i have been laughing my way through the recent "problem with linux"
> threads, and just had to add this somewhat off topic but i think very
> called for thought
>
>  Things I hate about linux..
>
> lets face it, there are things you dislike about the linux OS.  here are
> mine.  what are yours?

I've just about figured out all the new bits in KDE 2.1 and here they come 
with 2.2 ! I mean forget this "free" baloney - do these people think 
bandwidth grows on my back or something?

And then there are the scared looks in the eyes of the moron, err, sales 
assistant at the computer store when you give him a cold stare and say 
"Windows? I run Linux." I mean,  a reputation as a computer nerd is one 
thing, but when people start to avoid you because they are afraid to 
display their own ignorance, it really hurts your social life.

And what I detest most about Linux: going to work and being forced to use 
the windows machine there. I am seriously considering a career switch to 
galley slave.

Yes, Linux sucks allright

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Re: RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer

2001-11-27 Thread Jim Dawson


Why?

If you emulate Solaris for Intel, what's the point. There isn't much software for 
Solaris on Intel that isn't available for Linux already. If you emulate Solaris for 
SPARC you have soo much overhead translating the CPU instructions that it would be too 
slow to be really useful.

On the other hand, Solaris has (or will have in the next version, I can't remember) a 
Linux compatibility layer built in.

-Original Message-
From: "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:42:11 +0800
Subject: RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer

I am surprised someone hasn't written a solaris emulator.. then we could run
it and any other apps that we want..

and since solaris is alot more like linux then linux is like windows, the
performance hit wouldn't be so bad...

still, I am happy with Mozilla.. so who cares really?


rgds

Frank

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Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 12:40 AM
To: Mandrake-newbie
Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer


On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 13:25, E Estes wrote:
> I have seen screen shots of people running this  on linux and was
wondering where I could  find it. Any and all help would be appreciated.

You will need to use either Win4Lin or VMWare to run Windows under
Linux, in order to use MSIE. MS will not release a Linux-native version
of IE, because we are their greatest threat to Windows, and they refuse
to compromise their OS monopoly.

They have a Solaris-native version of IE, but AFAIK it does not run on
Linux, and since there is no source available, you can't just recompile.

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[newbie] Multimedia woes: KMixer, KDE's Media player + Xmms

2001-11-27 Thread Hugo Ferreira


Hi,

This is a long one 8-}...

I have a Cyrix P200+, 64 MBytes RAM  and I use a 2 disk set-up.

First disk has DOS, FAT32 (Win95) and NTFS (NT 4.0) partitions each
with the respective OS.

Second disk I have the native Linux fs and a swap of 200 Megabyte on a
1.5 Giga disk. I boot into this disk using NT's boot loader.

Installed LM 8.1 (several times). On the last attempt I got it working.
Three accounts (including root), sound card (MB319 using sndconfig) and the
CD-ROM. I could play music CD's without a problem, I could also mount and
view the CD, no problem. The only things that seemed odd were:
1. DMA time-outs, which the kernel sooner or later switches off.
2. The initrd.img file of the boot floppies have 0 kbytes, so to boot
successfully, I have to remove lilo's append.

Ok, I then attempted to play video (MPEG I, video sampling at 192Kbs and
sound at 44 KHz). My first attempt was with KDE's media player. Got the
following errors:
"Connecting start aRts soundserver failed. Make sure that artsd is
configured
properly"

The video output starts off, sound begins but immediately terminates. Xmms
started successfully, but the sound stuttered and there were so many skipped
video frames that I tried to solve this.

I checked and the daemon was running (ps -A). Used KControl->Sound->Sound
server to check set-up and status and set-up is as follows:
1. Log errors : artsmessage
2. General
a. Start aRts soundserver on KDE start-up
b. Run sound server w/ real-time priority
c. Autosuspend if idle for: 60 seconds
d. Display message using artsmessage
e. message display : errors
3. Sound I/O
a. Sound I/O method: autodetect
b. Sound quality: autodetect.

In an attempt to better the sound, I initially changed aRts settings to use
the largest buffer possible but this did not help.
aRts status also shows that the daemon is up. When KDE's media player
executes (and then breaks with an error message) Second attempt to play the
CD results in the above message (this time the app croaks). Status indicates
that
the aRts daemon is no longer in real time now. Xmms did not have this effect
on
the sound server.

H, what's up?

Ok, I the got fed up with this and logged in as another user after a reboot.
Now I cannot listen to any Audio CD's. I figured KMixer's settings went
back to default and so no sound. I launched this app and boom, error
message:
"Invalid mixer "MAD16 WSS (82C930)" ".

This message only appears on the account that originally played the CD. The
other accounts (including root), just show an empty mixer panel and no f..
message (sorry, had to vent a little here, it been weeks and I can't this
working, ;-)).

Ok, any pointers?

TIA.
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Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer


On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 05:50, Mark D'voo wrote:
> i agree, galeon is better than any browser to date, the only reason i have 
> wine on my computer right now is for return to castle wolfenstein, but when 
> the linux binaries come out in a week, bye bye wine
> 
> On Tuesday 27 November 2001 23:40, you wrote:
> > I see no reason to run IE on Linux. Attempting to do so only continues
> > to vindicate M$.
> > There are many excelent browsers that run great on linux. There's no
> > need to run M$ crapware on a good operating system.

Try to keep in mind that some of us are web designers, and we try to
test our websites on all browsers on all platforms, not just Linux
browsers.

Dave
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[newbie] Searching for Image Browser

2001-11-27 Thread Jim Dawson


I am looking for an image browser, i.e. a program to display a thumbnail image of 
every .jpg/.gif/.bmp/.png/etc file in a directory.

Konqeror has a image preview mode, but it leaves a little to be desired.

Ximian Gnome included one that was pretty good, but I don't remember what it is called.

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Re: [newbie] Clock Synchronization

2001-11-27 Thread Lee Roberts


It should be on the CD-ROM (if you have a copy of the install CD's).

At 03:20 PM 11/27/2001 +, Anuerin G.Diaz wrote:
>
>im using LM8.1 and i dont have any rdate executable, either as an ordinary 
>user or as root. ill try to find one tomorrow when my net connection resumes 
>here in the office. ;-)
>
>ciao!
>
>On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 00:04:11 -0700, Lee Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>   Hash: SHA1
>   
>   I'm running Mandrake 7.2 and had problems with the clock even though I had 
>   the proper timezone selected. After running rdate, my clock is now showing 
>   the correct time.
>   
>   On Tuesday 27 November 2001 07:44 am, Anuerin G.Diaz wrote:
>   
>   > > hi to all,
>   >
>   >this is one problem that I shelved that i remembered just now...
>   >
>   >how do I synchonize the linux clock with the BIOS clock? The timezone
>   > here is GMT+8. If I select 'Manila' in the timezone, the BIOS clock gets
>   > out of whack. Setting the clock to GMT or not does not help. I found a
>   > workaround by not selecting any timezone but Im hoping to find a proper 
>way
>   > wherein all my pc clocks (especially when Im changing OSes) are
>   > synchronized and I still am in the right timezone.
>   >
>   > thanks!
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Re: [newbie] Configuring a LAN card

2001-11-27 Thread bascule


maybe i missed this earlier but are specifying io (and mayber irq) when rying 
to load the module for the nic?

bascule

On Tuesday 27 Nov 2001 5:45 pm, you wrote:
> Okay, I've tried it all:
>
> Set IRQ 10 for "legacy ISA support" in BIOS.
> Disabled PNP in BIOS and on the LAN card.
> I already ran the Intel utilites. That's what I meant when I wrote:
> "I've checked the card with DOS test utilities and it seems to be fine.
> The IRQ is set at 10 and the I/O address is 210."
>
> Still the same. Can't seem to get the card recognized, and the driver load
> fails when I try to set it up in the Control Center. Any other ideas? As
> far into left field as you want to go
>
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Re: [newbie] y linux sucks (humor)

2001-11-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall

shane wrote:
> 
> i have been laughing my way through the recent "problem with linux" threads,
> and just had to add this somewhat off topic but i think very called for
> thought
> 
>  Things I hate about linux..
> 
> lets face it, there are things you dislike about the linux OS.  here are
> mine.  what are yours?

 Hehehehe, thats funny Shane! Okay, in the same vein, I'll join in:

Whats up with all this "open" code? Geez, if I really wanted to see the source
to everything I would've grown up to be an X-ray technician! Man O man, just
takes all the surprise out of everything!

...and how about free software? I mean I'm an American, dang-it! I expect to
pay 10 times too much for something that doesn't work right to begin with! And
so what if I'm paying for Bill Gates ascension to the throne of "Supreme
OverLord of the Known Universe"? He's just misunderstood really, and it keeps
him off the streets at night!

 ;-)

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Re: [newbie] No printing in 8.1 now

2001-11-27 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 17:34, you wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I have recently installed Linux-mandrake 8.1. I have an Epson Stylus Color
> printer which worked fine with cups in 7.2 and after a fix from Till worked
> eventually in 8. I thought it was going to work great in 8.1. It worked at
> first and then decided to not work on its own. It first started to spit out
> paper with colorful code, then blank pages, and now it just does not print
> at all. It just queues up jobs that never go anywhere. I went to Mandrake
> Forum and found out that this is a problem for many and there have been no
> answers provided there. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this? Should
> I forget cups and try a different printing system? I even purchased
> turboprint which does not work either. Any help here will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Marcia

Take careful note of the print commands in the pop-up windows!
Apparently Mandrake still hobbles along on two horses -- every now and then 
when using a new apps (or printing from there the first time) I see the 'lpr' 
command again. On replacing it with 'qtcups' usually gives me the right 
printer or at least

Check your spool with the "lpq' command on a console.

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Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer

2001-11-27 Thread Mark D'voo


i agree, galeon is better than any browser to date, the only reason i have 
wine on my computer right now is for return to castle wolfenstein, but when 
the linux binaries come out in a week, bye bye wine

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 23:40, you wrote:
> I see no reason to run IE on Linux. Attempting to do so only continues
> to vindicate M$.
> There are many excelent browsers that run great on linux. There's no
> need to run M$ crapware on a good operating system.
>
> ric
>
> > E Estes wrote:
> >
> > I have seen screen shots of people running this  on linux and was
> > wondering where I could  find it. Any and all help would be
> > appreciated.

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Re: [newbie] sparc install: where is the network???

2001-11-27 Thread Steve Weltman

You need to find out what kind of network chipset your Ultra 2 station came 
with, or buy another network interface card that can be seen by mandrake's 
hard drake.

Your Sun documentation SHOULD tell you what came with your computer, and it 
will be specific enough that you can find the correct adaptor.  I cannot give 
you the exact answer because I have worked on mainly the Solaris versions of 
xnix  (on E250s or bigger), so they aren't the same.  I can tell you that 
Sun's documentation is pretty thurough and you can start there.

Sorry so little guidance.

Steve Weltman

On Monday 26 November 2001 05:48 pm, you wrote:
> I installed mandrake from the iso image onto a sun
> ultra2.  i got everything up and running but no
> network can be seen.  ifconfig -a only shows the
> loopback.  Now the question: do i need to install
> another ethernet card???  from KDE, what is the device
> and the kernel module that I am to load???
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [newbie] y linux sucks (humor)

2001-11-27 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 16:51, you wrote:
> i have been laughing my way through the recent "problem with linux"
> threads, and just had to add this somewhat off topic but i think very
> called for thought
>
>  Things I hate about linux..
>
> lets face it, there are things you dislike about the linux OS.  here are
> mine.  what are yours?
>

Yeah, my big problem is I can't decide! Linux should come with just one 
browser! That way I don't have the choice problem.
At the moment I just open a different browser on different desktops 
(including Lynx) for the hell of it.
Deffinitly UN-productive:) Al least let there be a bad one among them so I 
can kick one out:( Now  there's an Itch! Will somebody please write a bad 
browser!

> x windows:  it causes most of my RAM trouble.  why?  cause i found out i
> can run KDE in tty7 and enlightenment in tty8.

Now that's new for me.So explain please,please, please(drool,drool!)!

> just what i need 10 desks

You're saying it
And on each one a bunch of browsers:)

Did I hear someone wanting IE on Linux
Definitly De Sade

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[newbie] No printing in 8.1 now

2001-11-27 Thread Marcia


Dear All,

I have recently installed Linux-mandrake 8.1. I have an Epson Stylus Color 
printer which worked fine with cups in 7.2 and after a fix from Till worked 
eventually in 8. I thought it was going to work great in 8.1. It worked at 
first and then decided to not work on its own. It first started to spit out 
paper with colorful code, then blank pages, and now it just does not print at 
all. It just queues up jobs that never go anywhere. I went to Mandrake Forum 
and found out that this is a problem for many and there have been no answers 
provided there. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this? Should I forget 
cups and try a different printing system? I even purchased turboprint which 
does not work either. Any help here will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Marcia



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Re: [newbie] mplayer error

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 11:50 am, skidley wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote:

> >
> >'seems fine' ...I don't think so you just haven't
> > discovered all that you just broke ... yet ;>
> > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker
>
> Ok but everything works fine. X and all the apps i use in X work.
> No errors in the logs regarding it. But I got rid of it anyway and
> the mplayer rpm. Will the mplayer rpm work without libpng3 it says
> it's needed but I could force it with --nodeps. I guess thats what
> you did right? --
> Chad Young Registered Linux User #195191 @ http://counter.li.org

   To be honest, I don't remember. I believe I got the mplayer rpm 
before GC recompiled it (?) for libpng3.  Cooker has been in the 
process of recompiling eveything that uses libpng2 -> libpng3.  
I just did an
~ $ rpm -qpil /stor/dl81/mplayer-0.50-2mdk.src.rpm and it doesn't say 
anything for 'requires'

   I use mplayer from the CL, so libpng probly isn't too much of an 
issue. Since it's a stand alone app, if you install with --nodeps and 
it breaks, you can always rpm -e it.  Try --rebuild 'n the scr.rpm
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Re: [newbie] mplayer error

2001-11-27 Thread skidley


On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote:

> On Monday 26 November 2001 09:28 pm, skidley wrote:
>
> > >   Otherwise, entering any of these deps in rpmfinds search engine
> > > will give you BIG clues ;>
> > >
> > >http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/
> >
> > Ok thanks I already had done what you said by the time I got your
> > reply. I don't know why I even asked. All were on the cds except
> > libpng3 I installed libpng3 and it seems fine. Its not an upgrade
> > from libpng2 both are installed.
>
>'seems fine' ...I don't think so you just haven't discovered
> all that you just broke ... yet ;>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker
>
Ok but everything works fine. X and all the apps i use in X work. No
errors in the logs regarding it. But I got rid of it anyway and the
mplayer rpm. Will the mplayer rpm work without libpng3 it says it's needed
but I could force it with --nodeps. I guess thats what you did right?
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RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.


ok, we know that most win firewall apps can't stop windows from sucking..
they have md5 hashkeys for all major apps to stop them being replaced by
trojans,

but windows can be tricked into allowing a trojan to talk though IE...

big deal,, I have two antivirus apps on the PC, it'd have to be a damn new
trojan to actually be savable to the hard disk.
(which incidently is the recommended defence (antivir) that that article
suggested.)

one little point,, I wasn't aware that tiny firewall (linux) or
InteractiveBastille did md5 hashkeys of executables at all...

I actually think it would be fantastic if it did,, then we wouldn't have to
worry so much about root kits...

much of a muchance I think,, if you do the work, you can secure any OS to
about 98 or so %... M$ just requires much more work..

and I keep saying this  ITS BEHIND A LINUX FIREWALL, WITH SNORT and
PORTSENTRY  what more could I possibly do to secure this thing... grc
(and my own port scanner tell me absolutly everything is blocked (and I
scanned 64000 ports.).. thats about as good as I need to be.)


rgds

Frank




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brinkman
Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2001 8:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.


On Tuesday 27 November 2001 04:23 am, Franki wrote:
> RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.yeah, I agree,,,
>
> I hate microsoft as much as the next guy, probably more,  but I
> have to write perl scripts that work and are tested in windows and
> linux, so I have to have a windows box..
> I also have a winmodem in my notebook that I need when out of town.
>
> so I loaded win2000 pro, then loaded all patches an service packs,
> then turned off all the dangerous stuff in outlook and IE...
> then loaded pccillin and innoculate PE  (which is a free antivirus
> for windows), then I downloaded the FREE Tiny firewall package,
> which is regarded as being the
> best firewall package for windows workstations..

  http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5099447,00.html

   Franki, there's almost as many articles of this nature on the Net
as there are constant reports of new security flaws in Windoze
products.

--
  Tom Brinkman             Galveston Bay, USA

>
> AND,
>
> This thing sits behind a linux masq box with a very tight firewall
> (BASICALLY NO SERVICES OPEN. AND NO ICMP) and it also retrieves its
> mail from another linux box running postfix that scans all incoming
> and outgoing mail for
> virus's, and doesn't let them though... (using amavis and the free
> Trend filescan.)
>
>
> So I don't know, I am fairly confident that I am not presently
> hackable...
>
> GRC reports me as being entirely invisable... so its at least
> fairly hard to do. which is more then anyone can ask nowdays.
>
> When I have no reason to use winblows, then I won't,,, but right
> now thats not an option..
>
> even if windows does suck, and we all know it does,, I have secured
> it as much as possible and IT IS sitting behind a linux firewall
> and MASQ ,,,
>
> I think it is pretty safe.. and I don't think I am fooling myself.
>
> Tell me how my security is Lax ???
>
>
> rgds
>
> Frank
>   -Original Message-
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harrison, Neil
>   Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2001 8:39 AM
>   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>   Subject: RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
>
>
>   You are a very angry, bitter man.
>
>   See "y'all" later
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:19 AM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
>
>   On Monday 26 November 2001 12:13 pm, Franki wrote:
>   > you might want to check your system Frank...
>   > Franki
>
>  You need to check your system Franki since you sent with:
>
>   X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
>   X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700
>   Importance: Normal
>
>  WHICH is a guaranteed virus transmission propagater to other
>   Windoze users, and pretty much fsck'ups the Net in general, even
>   fellow Linux users who have to put up with the damage y'all
>   propulgate to Net servers, and the stolen banwidth y'all suck up.
>
>  I dunno how to convince y'all   NEVER connect to the Net with,
> any M$ product. There is no way to secure or defend an M$ system.
> (period).  You can only buy/beg/borrow a bunch of ineffective
> firewalls and virus scanners for M$ crap. Then, the only thing
> you've accomplished is to fool yourself.
>
>  If you dual boot, delete anything Winblows has to do with
>   connecting to the Net, unplug the phone line.  Then you've got
> some security, at least till you buy a CD or floppy with a winblows
> virus on it.  Buy a real modem and use a real OS to connect.
>
> It amazes me that some people who do run Linux (part time),
> believe that connecting wit

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer


not again...

first, you can run it by setting up wine.  that is all i know, i don't use it 
or wine, but there it is, second..

you can use konqueror, netscape, mozilla, opera, galleon, hell use lynx even, 
why use the biggest POS ever built???

or as a web page i once saw said:

Where do you want to go today?

Straight to hell, apparently.

The other day I saw another Microsoft commercial on TV: sublime choral
music drifts through the background as the unseen user surfs through the
Internet and various Microsoft content using Internet Explorer. The
commercial closes with the Microsoft slogan "Where do you want to go
today?" and a final, furious blast of music. It's a very cool effect. But
if you dig a little deeper...

As it turns out, the background music is the Dies Irae of Mozart's Requiem
Mass. And the words of the final blast of music which accompanies "Where
do you want to go today?" are actually "confutatis maledictis, flammis
acribus addictis..." In English: "When the damned are confounded, and
consigned to sharp flames..."; which describes exactly where I want to go
today.

Unfortunately, while Explorer will take you to hell for free, the upgrade
to purgatory is pretty steep.

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 11:25, you spoke unto me thusly:

> I have seen screen shots of people running this  on linux and was 
> wondering where I could  find it. Any and all help would be appreciated.

-- 
"When you say 'I wrote a program that crashed Windows', people just stare at 
you blankly and say 'Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*'." - Linus 
Torvalds

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[newbie] Re:SSH For Win32 platforms.

2001-11-27 Thread Steve Weltman

There are many SSH clients in win32 platforms.   Check www.downloads.com or 
www.shareware.com.  Most of the software is trial of commercial programs.  
Secure shell is the name of one.  The site cuteFTP (www.cuteftp.com) is 
another.  These programs allow you to log into an SSH served environment, 
with the approprate encryption and communicate as you would had you done an 
rlogin from a Xnix host to another. 

Happy telneting to you!

Steve Weltman

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 05:48 am, you wrote:
> > How can I connect to my server using SSH on the client side?  The client
> > is using windows.  Do they make any SSH programs for windows?  Thanks
> > again...
>
> I am almost certain that Putty uses (or can use) ssh -- our local LUG
> set up access to his Linux server using Putty and ssh.  He likes it a
> lot.
>
> I've used it in a meeting, and it seemed easy enough to use with very
> little instruction.
>
> Randy Kramer

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Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 01:25 pm, you wrote:
> I have seen screen shots of people running this  on linux and was 
> wondering where I could  find it. Any and all help would be appreciated.

Are you sure it wasn't the Unix version? IE was made available for some 
flavors of Unix, but not Linux. The IE for Unix is also old and out of date.

The day MS supported Linux, you'd know about it. It'd be enormous news.

Matt

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RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer


I am surprised someone hasn't written a solaris emulator.. then we could run
it and any other apps that we want..

and since solaris is alot more like linux then linux is like windows, the
performance hit wouldn't be so bad...

still, I am happy with Mozilla.. so who cares really?


rgds

Frank

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 12:40 AM
To: Mandrake-newbie
Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer


On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 13:25, E Estes wrote:
> I have seen screen shots of people running this  on linux and was
wondering where I could  find it. Any and all help would be appreciated.

You will need to use either Win4Lin or VMWare to run Windows under
Linux, in order to use MSIE. MS will not release a Linux-native version
of IE, because we are their greatest threat to Windows, and they refuse
to compromise their OS monopoly.

They have a Solaris-native version of IE, but AFAIK it does not run on
Linux, and since there is no source available, you can't just recompile.

Dave
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Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer

On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 13:25, E Estes wrote:
> I have seen screen shots of people running this  on linux and was  wondering where I 
>could  find it. Any and all help would be appreciated.

You will need to use either Win4Lin or VMWare to run Windows under
Linux, in order to use MSIE. MS will not release a Linux-native version
of IE, because we are their greatest threat to Windows, and they refuse
to compromise their OS monopoly.

They have a Solaris-native version of IE, but AFAIK it does not run on
Linux, and since there is no source available, you can't just recompile.

Dave
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Re: [newbie] y linux sucks (humor)

2001-11-27 Thread Lanman


I can Sympathize! Now that I'm running Linux at the office, my boss expects 
me to work, not to spend the day rebooting and cursing my PC. That 
Rat-Bastard! Who does he think I am? Linux Torvalds? Fortunately for me, I 
have multiple desktops, so I can run all my favorite games on Desktops 2 and 
3, and he won't even know,damn, he's logging in to my system with rsh and 
shutting down PYSOL, and LTRIS. Now he's deleting them!  Where's the Blue 
Screen of Death when you need it most? Curse you Mandrake! Maybe it's time 
for RedmondLinux? Or, maybe Corel Linux? yeah, that's it,..Corel! It works as 
well as Windows XP ! Now where's that web-site?

(Grin!,Grin!)





On Tuesday 27 November 2001 10:51 am, you wrote:
> i have been laughing my way through the recent "problem with linux"
> threads, and just had to add this somewhat off topic but i think very
> called for thought
>
>  Things I hate about linux..
>
> lets face it, there are things you dislike about the linux OS.  here are
> mine.  what are yours?
>
> RAM:  i have 14 desktops and i am running 3 different browsers, seti at
> home, some office stuff, bluefish, kmail and knode.  i want to run gimp
> too, but i only have 256 megs of ram and damn it i am topping off!   i will
> have to use swap space soon!  now sure i know if i tried to run all that in
> windows i would crash all over the place, but the fact i know i can do all
> this and have multiple desktops makes me just keep running new apps without
> finishing what i was doing in the old ones.  and since it never crashes i
> never have to restart all the apps, i just leave them running.  at least
> with windows it crashed and i had to start over every few hours.  how can
> linux be good for productivity if i never close the apps when i am done?
>
> up time:  i have a cd drive that should be faster than the one curretly
> installed, but have i put it in?  no!  why?  i would have to restart!!! 
> why won't the damn thing just die so i can do a reboot and try this new
> drive?  i have been waiting for 15 1/2 weeks now to put this cd rom in, but
> no, it won't die.  maybe i should stop killing rouge apps...
>
> the other computer:  i have win 2000 on my other machine, and i feel it is
> wasted.  i mean i only use it to play halflife and it seems that has now
> been ported, so what do i do with it?  i left it on 24/7 just like the
> linux box but i don't play often so all it does is the seti@home screen
> saver.  luckily it crashes every other day just from the screen saver, so
> it is getting plenty of reboot use time.  nothing like the feeling you have
> to help maintain a machine.  sometimes i even let it run scandisk when it
> reboots cause i like to watch it work a little.  still, i could unplug the
> mouse and keyboard and it would be just as useful.  what a waste!  and why?
>  cause i run linux.  piece of shit.
>
> x windows:  it causes most of my RAM trouble.  why?  cause i found out i
> can run KDE in tty7 and enlightenment in tty8.  just what i need 10 desks
> of apps in KDE and 4 more in E!  who built this?  the marqee de sade?
>
> so how about you?  come on!  vent a little!



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Re: [newbie] Modem setup help required

2001-11-27 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker


quaylar wrote:

> At 10:48 27.11.2001 +, you wrote:
> >Can someone guide me step by step in simple language please how I
> >install a US Robotics 33.6 Sportster Modem on 8.0?
> >
> >Many thanks
> >
> >Gordon
>
> gordon,
>
> try out this excellent guide :
>
> http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cppp.html
>
> hth
>
> --qu
>
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Re: [newbie] Latin5 charset

2001-11-27 Thread Onur Kucuk



r> I have Mdk 8.0 at home and 8.1 at work.  At work, the Latin5 (Turkish) 
r> charset works fine, but at home I get everything but the lowercase 
r> dotless "i" and uppercase dotted "I".  Is this to do with ...

r>  - Mandrake version?
r>  - KDE version?
r>  - something dumb I've done?

r> Is there something (like a SETENV command) I can use to fix this without 
r> screwing up anything else?

r> Robin

The guilt belongs to XFree. The trouble is that it works
with shift key, but it does not work with caps lock.

Unfortunately changing keymap was not enough to fix it so it was
reported to XFree and fixed in new versions.

About July 2001 I had realized this and proper reports were sent to
Xfree, so I guess a version after that will be enough to fix it.

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[newbie] Internet Explorer

2001-11-27 Thread E Estes




I have seen screen shots of people 
running this  on linux and was  wondering where I could  find it. 
Any and all help would be appreciated.

Re: [newbie] Automounting problem

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 09:21 am, Robin Turner wrote:
> Tom Brinkman wrote:

> > > Would the supermount problems in 8.1 affect a box with only a
> > > floppy drive (i.e. no CDROM, backup media etc.)?
> >
> >   Should affect any removable media drive, so yes.
>
> So what exactly is the problem?
>
> Robin

   The 'old' supermount became incompatible with newer 2.4.x kernels. 
To the point (IIRC) it was completely broken by 2.4.6.  So the 
Mandrake developers completely rewrote supermount to work with the 
new kernels.  This process takes time and testing, and by 2.4.13 
they've got it working properly again.

   If you want a more indepth understanding of this Robin, search the 
last few months on http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker  
for 'supermount'.
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[newbie] y linux sucks (humor)


i have been laughing my way through the recent "problem with linux" threads, 
and just had to add this somewhat off topic but i think very called for 
thought

 Things I hate about linux.. 
 
lets face it, there are things you dislike about the linux OS.  here are 
mine.  what are yours? 
 
RAM:  i have 14 desktops and i am running 3 different browsers, seti at home, 
some office stuff, bluefish, kmail and knode.  i want to run gimp too, but i 
only have 256 megs of ram and damn it i am topping off!   i will  
have to use swap space soon!  now sure i know if i tried to run all that in 
windows i would crash all over the place, but the fact i know i can do all 
this and have multiple desktops makes me just keep running new apps without 
finishing what i was doing in the old ones.  and since it never crashes i 
never have to restart all the apps, i just leave them running.  at least with 
windows it crashed and i had to start over every few hours.  how can linux be 
good for productivity if i never close the apps when i am done? 
 
up time:  i have a cd drive that should be faster than the one curretly 
installed, but have i put it in?  no!  why?  i would have to restart!!!  why 
won't the damn thing just die so i can do a reboot and try this new drive?  i 
have been waiting for 15 1/2 weeks now to put this cd rom in, but no, it 
won't die.  maybe i should stop killing rouge apps... 
 
the other computer:  i have win 2000 on my other machine, and i feel it is 
wasted.  i mean i only use it to play halflife and it seems that has now been 
ported, so what do i do with it?  i left it on 24/7 just like the linux box 
but i don't play often so all it does is the seti@home screen saver.  luckily 
it crashes every other day just from the screen saver, so it is getting 
plenty of reboot use time.  nothing like the feeling you have to help 
maintain a machine.  sometimes i even let it run scandisk when it reboots 
cause i like to watch it work a little.  still, i could unplug the mouse and 
keyboard and it would be just as useful.  what a waste!  and why?  cause i 
run linux.  piece of shit. 
 
x windows:  it causes most of my RAM trouble.  why?  cause i found out i can 
run KDE in tty7 and enlightenment in tty8.  just what i need 10 desks of apps 
in KDE and 4 more in E!  who built this?  the marqee de sade?   
 
so how about you?  come on!  vent a little! 
 


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[newbie] monitor card for sis735 m/b? sis sg86c201 5591/5592 agp

2001-11-27 Thread tek1


according to mandrake, my graphic card is a sis sg86c201 5591/5592 agp, but 
when i go to change the screen resolution, it asks me to select the graphic 
card.  i select sis sg86c201 and then the resolution, but when i test the 
settings, the machine goes haywire; the screen starts flipping/flickering.

anyone know what the right settings are?

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Re: [newbie] NVIDIA Driver installation

2001-11-27 Thread Onur Kucuk



RS> I installed the NVIDIA drivers on my ML 8.1 system. Everything seems
RS> fine and my monitor screen looks better. (It was shifted to the right)
RS> The one question I do have is now while loading into X just before KDE
RS> starts, my screen flickers 3-4 times and then a screen comes on that
RS> says NVIDIA. Is this normal behaviour with the screen flickering with
RS> the NVIDIA drivers installed or do I need to do something else? TIA

RS> --
RS> Regards
RS>   Ron

 It is totally normal :) Nvidia drivers scan your monitors preferences
 by changing different resolutions, to see what is available, and what
 works better.

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Re: [newbie] Modem setup help required

2001-11-27 Thread quaylar


At 10:48 27.11.2001 +, you wrote:
>Can someone guide me step by step in simple language please how I
>install a US Robotics 33.6 Sportster Modem on 8.0?
>
>Many thanks
>
>Gordon



gordon,


try out this excellent guide :

http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cppp.html

hth

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[newbie] RE: [expert] A7A or A7M? Both work with MDK 8.0 and 8.1

2001-11-27 Thread Jose M. Sanchez


Heh, thanks!

-JMS

|-Original Message-
|From: Hoyt Duff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
|Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 9:36 AM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: [expert] A7A or A7M? Both work with MDK 8.0 and 8.1
|
|
|On Tuesday 27 November 2001 03:55, you wrote:
|> I have several systems using both sets of motherboards.
|>
|> Yes there is a problem, how it impacts you is for you to decide.
|>
|
|>
|> It would be nice to disable the log entries in the timer.c code so 
|> that the kernel does not keep interrupting to generate the log 
|> message. It's simple to do but no one has so far.
|>
|
|
|Here is one from a friend of mine, Bob Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
|
|Here ya go, unified diff against a 2.4.14-pre7 kernel:
|
|--- linux/arch/x86_64/kernel/time.c~Mon Nov  5 06:01:08 2001
|+++ linux/arch/x86_64/kernel/time.c Mon Nov 26 01:29:16 2001
|@@ -482,8 +482,10 @@
| count = LATCH - 1;
| if(time_after(jiffies, last_whine))
| {
|+ /*
| printk(KERN_WARNING "probable 
|hardware bug: 
|clock timer configuration lost - probably a VIA686a motherboard.\n");
| printk(KERN_WARNING "probable 
|hardware bug: 
|restoring chip configuration.\n");
|+ */
| last_whine = jiffies + HZ;
| }   
| }
|
|Hoyt
|




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[newbie] Question!

2001-11-27 Thread Roman




After installation of the Apache 1.3.20 with SSL 
(mod_ssl-2.8.4-1.3.20 + openssl-0.9.6b) under Mandrake 8.0 I got some 
problems.
 
apachectl stsrssl
 
returns many warnings like:
 
[Warning] Loaded DSO libexec/ uses plain Apache 1.3 API, this 
module might crash under EAPI! (please recompile it with 
-DEAPI)
 
but finally starts successfilly.
 
If somebody knows what is the difference 
between EAPI and DEAPI and how to recompile all nesesary modules (or all of them 
in the process of the server's installation) with DEAPI.
 
Thank's in advance.
Roman.

I am using webfonts.sh script found on the webfonts4linux website but I noticed
that my Netscape 6.2 fonts still suck. is there any other way of beautifying
my "netscape" ? My Kconquerer now looks much better though pls help.
thank you.

Ric Tibbetts wrote:
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Ah.. the new generation of Linux users... Y'all can't do anythingwithout a GUI.Want to know what's going on "under the covers"? Then when you want toadd fonts, you can.. any time, any type. :)Ok... Here goes:Off in the land of daemons is one called "xfs" (for X Font Server). It,as it's name suggests, serves fonts to the X server, which in turn putsthem on your dsplay. For average fonts, it's not even required, as X iscapable of rendering it's own fonts. X only falls short in the realm ofTrue Type fonts. That is "one" of the places that xfs is needed. Anotherplace that xfs finds use is to serve fonts out to network devices(remote X-Terminals & such. But that is beyond where I care to go withthis discussion.So. Knowing the above, how does one import Windows (or any other) fontsinto X?Simple.First, take a look at the directory: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fontsThere you will fin
d the font directories. You should have a subdirectrory something like the following/100dpi.../75dpi.../encodings.../mdk.../misc.../PEX.../Speedo.../Type1There are additional fonts in /usr/share, but we'll get to those later.Within each of these directories are the font files, and two veryimportant files:fonts.dir (the fonts definition file), andfonts.alias (an alias file, as the name would suggest).There may additionaly be a fonts.scale file for scaleable fonts.The first step in adding a large number of fonts is find a place to putthem. If you want to bring the windows fonts over, then I'd suggestcreating a new directory for them. I've done that on mine, and named it/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/WindowsCreate that directory, then copy the contents of your windows fontsdirectory into it.Then cd into the directory, and issue:ttmkfdir > fonts.dir
This will create the fonts.dir file.NOTE: This only works for TT fonts. For conventional fonts use:mkfontdir > fonts.dir (the non true-type version).Now. With the fonts.dir file created, we need to tell xfs about this newdirectory.Go to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fsThere is a file there named "config". Open it with your favorite editor.Look for the section that has the font directrories in it (it's reallyeasy to find, it's a small file).You'll want to add your .../Windows fonts directrory to this list. Minelooks like:catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Windows, <- This on
e!/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives,/usr/share/fonts/ttf/westernNOTE: You can also add external fonts to /usr/share. And in retrospect,this would have been a more appropriate place to add the Windows fonts.With the .../Windows directory added to this list, comes the reallydistasteful part. You'll need to reboot your PC. yeah, I know. But everytime I've tried to ge around it, I've gotten hung up.One possible way:After you've completed the above:Drop out of X, and kill it (go to a console, and type "init 3", tototally shutdown X. Then run "service xfs restart" to stop & start xfsso it will pick up the new fonts.Then restart X, by running init 5, OR startx.This MIGHT get you back up without hanging. I've generally found it bestto restart the computer.Before everyone jumps on this, YES, I know, there are ways to add fontpaths withou
t killing xfs & X. I did not do this in this example becauseit's best to be sure that xfs is still funcitoning properly after havingit's config file futz with. And this method supplies a lasting fontpath, by building it in.You should now however have your new (old) windows fonts available.to summarize the steps:1) Create & populate the new font directory (in either/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts, or /usr/share/fonts).2) Create the fonts.dir file (by running ttmkfdir > fonts.dir fromwithin the new font directory).3) Add the new font directory to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fs/config4) Kill X, restart xfs, and restart X.Broken down, it's really very simple.Want to add more truetype fonts? Pay a visit to fontfreak(http://www.fontfreak.com), and get something interesting. Then add thefile to which-ever truetype fonts directory suits your fanc
y,and seemsappropriate. Then just re-run ttmkfdir > fonts.dir, and restart. Andyou'll have your new font. NOTE: There's no need to change the xfsconfig file if you've not added a new directory.So. Now you know how to do fonts basics by hand. Knowing this, whenthings go awry (as things GUI powered will form time to time), you'llhave a clue as to where

Re: [newbie] GL games crash xserver

2001-11-27 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Erylon Hines wrote:
> 
> I posted this a week ago and got no hits (that post was specific to
> TuxRacer).  I now know that it's the open GL games that do it (GLtron, etc.)
> With some of them I get the start up music, and with all of them I get a
> black screen with my cursor white-outlined in the upper left corner, then I
> return to the kdm log-in screen.  My logs show dri and glx are loading
> successfully, and the Mesa  toys (Mesa gears, morph, reflect) work fine, and
> so do the gl screensavers.  The only error after the crash is:
> 
> kdm[1081]: Server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly: 2816

Hi Eryl, sorry if we're late with a reply. I didn't see your first message.
Probably my lamo ISP... ;-(

Anyways, if its -fullscreen- games that are breaking, and windowed software
like gears is working, I'm betting you are using a graphical login. Don't. Use
the text logon. KDM causes 3D accelerated stuff to crash. Just use a text
login, then "startx"...then run your software and see if it doesn't run!

Hope this helps.

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Re: [newbie] Importing Fonts

2001-11-27 Thread Dr.András Sólyom

Dave Sherman wrote:

> On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 03:36, Ric Tibbetts wrote:
> > Ah.. the new generation of Linux users... Y'all can't do anything
> > without a GUI.
> >
> > Want to know what's going on "under the covers"? Then when you want to
> > add fonts, you can.. any time, any type. :)
>

This is a very fine message. What disturbs me about Mandrake that everything
is shiny when you use the GUI tools, but information about what is really
happening is scarce. E.g. I do not yet know whether it is possible to update a
Mandrake system easily on a remote machine from the comand line and that what
happens when I select a security level. Where can I find information on
'what's going on "under the covers"'?

Andras

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[newbie] InteractiveBastille error messages.

2001-11-27 Thread Charles Darcy


Hi,

After answering all of the questions in InteractiveBastille (Tk
interface), and applying the changes, the Tk window closes normally, but
the terminal in which I started InteractiveBastille displays the
following:

About to run through config file ...
/sbin/bastille-ipchains: /sbin/ipchains: No such file or directory.
/sbin/bastille-ipchains: /sbin/ipchains: No such file or directory.
/sbin/bastille-ipchains: /sbin/ipchains: No such file or directory.
...
(repeated 100 or so times)


Are these messages normal for LM8.1 ?


Thanks for any help,


regards,

Charlie.





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Re: [newbie] Automounting problem

2001-11-27 Thread Robin Turner

Tom Brinkman wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday 27 November 2001 06:38 am, robin wrote:
> > Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > >   Update to a Mandrake 2.4.13 kernel, upgrade initscripts and
> > >iptables (I used the cooker src.rpms), 'supermount -i enable',
> > >'mount -a'
> >
> > Guess I might have to do this - supermount on 8.1 is now giving me
> > "IO error" messages.  Why did you compile iptables and initscripts
> > from source rather than using the binaries?
> 
> Just my habit when using cooker rpms. I always try the src.rpms
> first, figuring if they compile without errors, the resulting rpms
> should be problem free. 'Sides, it's more fun ;)

Another reason - I just tried doing it with the binaries and my
system went into a loop while attempting to start X.  After
unsuccessful rescue attempts, I'm reinstalling (quicker than
trying to repair!).  Lucky I had /home on a separate partition.

> > Would the supermount problems in 8.1 affect a box with only a
> > floppy drive (i.e. no CDROM, backup media etc.)?
>   Should affect any removable media drive, so yes.

So what exactly is the problem?

Robin

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Re: [newbie] Importing Fonts

On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 03:36, Ric Tibbetts wrote:
> Ah.. the new generation of Linux users... Y'all can't do anything
> without a GUI.
> 
> Want to know what's going on "under the covers"? Then when you want to
> add fonts, you can.. any time, any type. :)
> 
> Ok... Here goes:
> 

[big snip]

Ric, thanks for reminding me why I got into Linux in the first place --
because I can get under the covers and see exactly what is going on! I
admit I use GUI tools for their convenience, but it's nice to be able to
"get my hands dirty" once in a while.

Dave
-- 
When I was little, I went into a pet shop and they asked how big I'd
get.
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Re: [newbie] Importing Fonts

2001-11-27 Thread Randy Kramer


Ric Tibbetts wrote:
> Want to know what's going on "under the covers"? Then when you want to
> add fonts, you can.. any time, any type. :)
> 
> Ok... Here goes:

Ric,

Thanks, nice post!

Randy Kramer



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Re: [newbie] thanks...for the fix, and now two or three more question =)

2001-11-27 Thread Randy Kramer


> How can I connect to my server using SSH on the client side?  The client is
> using windows.  Do they make any SSH programs for windows?  Thanks again...

I am almost certain that Putty uses (or can use) ssh -- our local LUG
set up access to his Linux server using Putty and ssh.  He likes it a
lot.

I've used it in a meeting, and it seemed easy enough to use with very
little instruction.

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Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.


On Tuesday 27 November 2001 04:23 am, Franki wrote:
> RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.yeah, I agree,,,
>
> I hate microsoft as much as the next guy, probably more,  but I
> have to write perl scripts that work and are tested in windows and
> linux, so I have to have a windows box..
> I also have a winmodem in my notebook that I need when out of town.
>
> so I loaded win2000 pro, then loaded all patches an service packs,
> then turned off all the dangerous stuff in outlook and IE...
> then loaded pccillin and innoculate PE  (which is a free antivirus
> for windows), then I downloaded the FREE Tiny firewall package,
> which is regarded as being the
> best firewall package for windows workstations..

  http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5099447,00.html

   Franki, there's almost as many articles of this nature on the Net 
as there are constant reports of new security flaws in Windoze 
products.

-- 
  Tom Brinkman             Galveston Bay, USA

>
> AND,
>
> This thing sits behind a linux masq box with a very tight firewall
> (BASICALLY NO SERVICES OPEN. AND NO ICMP) and it also retrieves its
> mail from another linux box running postfix that scans all incoming
> and outgoing mail for
> virus's, and doesn't let them though... (using amavis and the free
> Trend filescan.)
>
>
> So I don't know, I am fairly confident that I am not presently
> hackable...
>
> GRC reports me as being entirely invisable... so its at least
> fairly hard to do. which is more then anyone can ask nowdays.
>
> When I have no reason to use winblows, then I won't,,, but right
> now thats not an option..
>
> even if windows does suck, and we all know it does,, I have secured
> it as much as possible and IT IS sitting behind a linux firewall
> and MASQ ,,,
>
> I think it is pretty safe.. and I don't think I am fooling myself.
>
> Tell me how my security is Lax ???
>
>
> rgds
>
> Frank
>   -Original Message-
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harrison, Neil
>   Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2001 8:39 AM
>   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>   Subject: RE: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
>
>
>   You are a very angry, bitter man.
>
>   See "y'all" later
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:19 AM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: Re: [newbie] win32 badtrans worm.
>
>   On Monday 26 November 2001 12:13 pm, Franki wrote:
>   > you might want to check your system Frank...
>   > Franki
>
>  You need to check your system Franki since you sent with:
>
>   X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
>   X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700
>   Importance: Normal
>
>  WHICH is a guaranteed virus transmission propagater to other
>   Windoze users, and pretty much fsck'ups the Net in general, even
>   fellow Linux users who have to put up with the damage y'all
>   propulgate to Net servers, and the stolen banwidth y'all suck up.
>
>  I dunno how to convince y'all   NEVER connect to the Net with,
> any M$ product. There is no way to secure or defend an M$ system.
> (period).  You can only buy/beg/borrow a bunch of ineffective
> firewalls and virus scanners for M$ crap. Then, the only thing
> you've accomplished is to fool yourself.
>
>  If you dual boot, delete anything Winblows has to do with
>   connecting to the Net, unplug the phone line.  Then you've got
> some security, at least till you buy a CD or floppy with a winblows
> virus on it.  Buy a real modem and use a real OS to connect.
>
> It amazes me that some people who do run Linux (part time),
> believe that connecting with Windoze is a good, or even tolerable
> idea. Specially on this (Linux) list. Winsux virus warnings to this
> list are OFF TOPIC, immaterial, and border on ridiculous. Post
> these warnings to (ignorant, computer illiterate) Winblows users
> lists and newsgroups. You'll be very busy on a daily basis  ...
> mostly you'll be weeks, even months and years behind
>
>Jeez, in a perfect world, Winblows users wouldn't be allowed to
>   connect.
>
> ... there ought'a be a law
>
>   --
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Re: [newbie] Installing Evolution under Mandrake 8.1

On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 21:57, Jim Dawson wrote:
> Does anyone know of an easy way to install the latest Ximian Evolution
> under Mandrake 8.1? I keep getting dependancy errors when I try to
> install.

Unless you really want all of Ximian Gnome, you are better off
installing the version of Evolution that came with 8.1 (0.12, I think),
or (better yet) install the 0.99rc1 from Cooker. I've been running it
for a while now, and it is much more stable on my system than the
version that came on the CDs.

Dave
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Re: [newbie] Clock Synchronization

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 09:44 am, Anuerin G.Diaz wrote:
> hi to all,
>
>this is one problem that I shelved that i remembered just now...
>
>how do I synchonize the linux clock with the BIOS clock? The
> timezone here is GMT+8. If I select 'Manila' in the timezone, the
> BIOS clock gets out of whack. Setting the clock to GMT or not does
> not help. I found a workaround by not selecting any timezone but Im
> hoping to find a proper way wherein all my pc clocks (especially
> when Im changing OSes) are synchronized and I still am in the right
> timezone.
>
> thanks!

   hwclock --hctosys
  Set the System Time from the Hardware Clock.

   hwclock --systohc
  Set the Hardware Clock to the current System Time.

  (see  man hwclock)   I use this alias in bashrc to set both 
hardware and software clocks to a time server (U of Houston)

alias tdate="rdate -p -s tick.uh.edu && hwclock --systohc"

   You'll probly need to install rdate, it's on your CD's. You'll 
also need to find a public time server in your time zone (Google).

-- 
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Re: [newbie] Automounting problem