[newbie] Kernel or Module?

[Brian J. Trainor]

Greetings,

I have attempted a recompile of my kernel several times over now and can't 
seem to get it right.  I need to install soundcore into the kernel, but I 
also need to install several different modules in order to stil be able to 
use many of the devices associated with my machine ie NIC, graphics, CD-ROM 
etc.

Before I go to install certain things in either module or kernel, is there a 
way to check my current install to see what I should select to end up with 
similar results?  The only thing NOT working in the plain old first boot 
install is sound.

Thanks a ton.



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Re: Re(2): [newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:43:37 +0700, Brian Durant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >That's true. I'm sure free software will get there; it'll just take some
> >time :)
> 
> Apps may get there, but drivers for video cards, sound cards, etc. is a
> friggin nightmare without end! Here you have some very nice and
> technically skilled programmers that are trying to play catch up with
> commercial products. On sites like , they
> openly state not to ask about when there will be driver support for x or
> xx card! This unfortunately will not change in the foreseeable future, as
> far as I am concerned, unless the business model for Linux changes
> drastically. Difficulty in finding a videocard on the local market that
> has Linux drivers is close to what we in the old days on the Mac OS
> called "SCSI Voodoo". I am so fed up with this "Linux Driver Voodoo" that
> I am regretting having started on my Linux box project at all! As I
> haven't purchased any hardware yet, maybe I will just buy one of those
> new "Luxor" iMacs and be done with it!

You trivialise the issue. Drivers are supposed to be written by hardware
manufacturers (who actually know what the hardware is about), not by software/OS
designers (who must reverse engineer the hardware to know how it works).
Manufacturers are reluctant to write Linux drivers, forcing the community to
come up with their own. Why is this the case? First and foremost, there is no
commercial incentive to support an OS that only has a few percentage points of
the desktop market. This problem applies to all but one x86 OS. Secondly, many
manufacturers misunderstand how GNU/Linux works, believing it is somehow 'viral'
(to use MS terminology). To them, releasing drivers means letting their
intellectual property secrets out into the open, which elimiates any competitive
edge that company may have had. The reality is somewhat different: Linux (i.e.
the kernel) is licensed under a modified GPL which allows proprietary
binary-only modules. Companies like Nvidia have taken advantage of this, and
have released very capable drivers. 3dfx and Matrox went one step further by
openly co-operating with open source hackers to produce open drivers.

Why does Windows seemingly have such great hardware support? Because it has over
90% of the desktop OS market, it cannot be ignored by hardware manufacturers. Do
you really think that MS write their own hardware drivers? Apple are in a
similar situation. They have their own little hardware market, of which they
would have about 99% share (with Darwin and GNU/Linux making up much of the
remainder). They make their own boxes, giving them ultimate control over the
entire platform. Consequently, hardware designed for Macs works exceptionally
well (often better than how they work in Windows).

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

"I'm a stupid git. I even remember thinking about the syncing issues at some
point, and then obviously just forgetting about it completely."
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Re: [newbie] Printing problems

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:32:57 -0500, Bryan Tyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 February 2002 17:00, you wrote:
> 
> > By the way, what is the difference between Cups and lpr ? Sorry for
> > the stupid question : ), but I am a little bit confused with them.
> > For me they seem to be totally different printing systems. Why do
> > some programs use one instead of another ?
> 
> Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I have developed a theory on my 
> Mandrake system that lpr is somehow "aliased" to cups.

LPR is an ancient printing technology originally designed in the 1970s (IIRC)
for line printers. Until only a few years ago, it was the the default printing
system on most distributions. LPR has many shortcomings, and many would say that
it lived far past its use-by date.

CUPS (Common Unix Printing System) is an entirely new system that has replaced
CUPS in most *NIX distributions. It is fully network and Internet aware, and is
far more suitable for today's printers that LPR ever was.

Mandrake offers both LPR and CUPS (and a few others, I think), but the default
is CUPS. There is no need to use LPR, as everything can be done with CUPS. For
best results, install the xpp package, and then instruct your applications to
use 'xpp' as their printing command. XPP is a Mandrake package that allows extra
control over your prinitng.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

"The linux kernel has had an interesting release pattern: usually the .0 release
was actually fairly good (there's almost always something stupid, but on the
whole not really horrible).  And every single time so far, .1 has been worse. It
usually takes until something like .5 until it has caught up and surpassed the
stability of .0 again." -- Linus Torvalds



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Re(2): [newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!

[Brian Durant]

>That's true. I'm sure free software will get there; it'll just take some
>time :)

Apps may get there, but drivers for video cards, sound cards, etc. is a
friggin nightmare without end! Here you have some very nice and
technically skilled programmers that are trying to play catch up with
commercial products. On sites like , they
openly state not to ask about when there will be driver support for x or
xx card! This unfortunately will not change in the foreseeable future, as
far as I am concerned, unless the business model for Linux changes
drastically. Difficulty in finding a videocard on the local market that
has Linux drivers is close to what we in the old days on the Mac OS
called "SCSI Voodoo". I am so fed up with this "Linux Driver Voodoo" that
I am regretting having started on my Linux box project at all! As I
haven't purchased any hardware yet, maybe I will just buy one of those
new "Luxor" iMacs and be done with it!

Cheers,

Brian




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Re: [newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:47:57 +0900, Pascal Goguey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> > >Sorry, I forgot to ask this in my first reply but why do you feel the need
> > >to convert your friend to Linux if he is happy with Mac OS X?
> >
> > For a very simple reason: I don't think that proprietary software is a good
> > thing.  Neither do I trust that Mac suddenly coming into Unices and even
> > open source with their next OS is anything but opportunism born out of dire
> > need.  As for their OS - look at Linus T's comments about it in his book.
> 
> Id depends on what you want. For most of the people of this list
> (including me), Mandraje provides everything for the daily use.
> As for my frustrations:
> - No consistent cut & paste;

This can be frustrating if you use different toolkits. The
select-and-middle-click method works in most places, though.

> - No way to reassign the shortcuts consistently to mimick Mac's
> behaviour. At least not in KDE, and the changes don't apply consistently
> everywhere.

Have you looked for alternatives? If KDE doesn't suit your needs, then try
something else. Have you looked at GNOME and/or WindowMaker? KDE isn't the whole
world, you know.

> - Fonts / encoding problems as soon as you don't use an english
> platform. I am still unable, for instance, to send a message that contains
> French AND Japanese in the same page. Either the accents or the
> kanjis are unsuported.

Internationalisation suport in GNU/Linux is supposed to be very good. Again,
have you tried different apps to see if one suited your needs? I hear that Pango
(the GNOME2 internationalisation library, used by GNOME2 apps) handles this sort
of thing quite well. Also, make sure you're using Unicode fonts.

> We (on this list) can cope with this, but as for a person coming from
> MacOSX world where the 3 points above work perfectly, I guess it is
> not easy and for them, Mac is still the only solution that works out of
> the box, without any other config.

That's true. I'm sure free software will get there; it'll just take some time :)

-- 
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"De gustibus non disputandum."
  -- Linus Torvalds



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Re: [newbie] Printing problems

[Bryan Tyson]

On Tuesday 12 February 2002 17:00, you wrote:

> By the way, what is the difference between Cups and lpr ? Sorry for
> the stupid question : ), but I am a little bit confused with them.
> For me they seem to be totally different printing systems. Why do
> some programs use one instead of another ?

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I have developed a theory on my 
Mandrake system that lpr is somehow "aliased" to cups.

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Re: [newbie] BIG thanks ;o)

[skinky]

On Tuesday 12 February 2002 18:50, Damian G wrote:
> >Where did you find the 2.4.17 kernel?
>
> right here:
>
> ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
>
> then i downloaded and installed kernel*.rpm
>
> ( you don't need the kernel-source or docs to install it, i just needed
> them myself to make vmware workstation work. )
>
> oh, someone else mentioned that if you use iptables you had to upgrade them
> too.

And "iptables" usually requires "initscripts".  Also the last kernel upgrade 
I did, initscripts required "setup".

So if you download a new kernel it might  pay to grab those 3 files at the 
same time.

skinky
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Re: [newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!

[NDPTAL85]

> On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:04:56 -0500, NDPTAL85 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> Meanwhile ArsDigita has closed up shop
>
> http://www.arsdigita.com/
>
> All the links seem to work. Maybe you meant ADUniversity? The ACS is 
> still
> open source and still available, though it's been converted from TCL to 
> Java.


Yeah its closed. Went out of business. It was announced on Slashdot last 
week. There's OpenACS too but who knows where that will lead.






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Re: [newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!

[Pascal Goguey]

Hello,

> >Sorry, I forgot to ask this in my first reply but why do you feel the need
> >to convert your friend to Linux if he is happy with Mac OS X?
>
> For a very simple reason: I don't think that proprietary software is a good
> thing.  Neither do I trust that Mac suddenly coming into Unices and even
> open source with their next OS is anything but opportunism born out of dire
> need.  As for their OS - look at Linus T's comments about it in his book.

Id depends on what you want. For most of the people of this list
(including me), Mandraje provides everything for the daily use.
As for my frustrations:
- No consistent cut & paste;
- No way to reassign the shortcuts consistently to mimick Mac's
behaviour. At least not in KDE, and the changes don't apply consistently
everywhere.
- Fonts / encoding problems as soon as you don't use an english
platform. I am still unable, for instance, to send a message that contains
French AND Japanese in the same page. Either the accents or the
kanjis are unsuported.

We (on this list) can cope with this, but as for a person coming from
MacOSX world where the 3 points above work perfectly, I guess it is
not easy and for them, Mac is still the only solution that works out of
the box, without any other config.


Pascal



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Re[4]: [newbie] emu-tools

[Roman Korcek]

Hey,
>> > --- Your kernel must be compiled with loadable modules and soundcard
>> > support and without any integrated emu10K1 soundcard drivers.
>> How do I check, please?
> Look for
> "CONFIG_MODULES = y" for the loadable modules support
> "CONFIG_SOUND = y/m" for soundcard support and 
> "CONFIG_SOUND_EMU10K1 = m/n" for non-integrated emu10k1 soundcard drivers.
> y = yes (compiled directly into the kernel)
> n = no (not included/supported)
> m = module (included as module which can be loaded but not compiled directly 
> in the kernel)
> In your /boot directory there should be a file called "config-[your kernel]"
> which I think is the config used for your kernel.  You can search this file, 
> for example:
> $ grep -i CONFIG_MODULES /boot/config-2.4.17.13mdk
> CONFIG_MODULES=y
> $ grep -i CONFIG_SOUND /boot/config-2.4.17-13mdkenterprise
> CONFIG_SOUND=m
>   --> (plus many more listed)
> $ grep -i CONFIG_SOUND_EMU10K1 /boot/config-2.4.17-13mdkenterprise
> CONFIG_SOUND_EMU10K1=m
>   --> (this was already shown in the long list from the above search)

> OK (and in my case knowledge on this subject is _very_ limited).  Well
> anyways... even tho I couldn't help you with your soundcard problem, at least 
> you know a bit more about your kernel now  ;)

Don't worry and thank you. ;-)

Greetings
Roman




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[newbie] EBDA too big

[Nicolas VERITE]

I've launched Software Manager,
and selected lots of packages for install/update from CDs
(can't remember which ones in particular),
X freezes,
CRTL+ALT+Fn show a real mess,
try to blindly login as root and shutdown -r now.

Now, ever and ever again :
"EBDA too big"
carriage return
dot sign
nothing more

I boot on 1st install CD, type "rescue"...
many different behaviours, each leading to the same "kernel panic".

Searched Google and more for "EBDA too big",
no solution worked fine...

What's best ?

Thanx
Nyco




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Re: [newbie] proftpd question

[Gerald Waugh]

On Tuesday 12 February 2002 08:09 pm, Mithrilhall2000 wrote:
> Maybe I sent the wrong message. When the user "anonymous" logs in he is
> sent to the proper directory but they are able to browse other users home
> directories and are capable of downloading from them.
>
You must use a DirectoryRoot directive
this directive chroots the user to a jail

Check out the following URL
http://proftpd.org/docs/complex-virtual.conf
look at the anonymous configurations


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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice.org Text File Spreadsheet import

[Richard Holt]

Paul,

I asked on the OpenOffice.org Discuss list. These are the answers I got:

> How to Import a pipe delimited text file into an openoffice.org
> spreadsheet?
>
> Paul


This is a common scenario if you are dealing with output from a 'nix
database (Ingres, MySQL both come to mind).  When you do an sql dump you
many times get a text-based, tabular output:

| some data | some more data | yet some more |

In Excel, I've used text file import and select "other" for the seperator
and enter the pipe "|" character.  I imagine OOo has similar
functionality?

Stew B


At a guess it means the file is structured like
column1|column2|column3
moreC1|MoreC2|MoreC3
to do this open calc
file --> open
select type text csv ( its towards the bottom )
select the file and click on OK
in the text import box
tick seperator other  and put | in the box next to it
Thats all there is to it
- Justin


In a comma-delimited file (a.k.a comma-separated-values, or *.csv in the MS
world), data fileds are delimited/separated by commas <,>.
There are also Tab-delimited values (separated by TAB characters.
My guess is that pipe-delimited files have fields delimited by "the
character normally used to pipe stuff around *nix systems", i.e <|>.

John H


From the Help section in OOo641c:
OpenOffice.org normally automatically recognizes the correct file type when a file is 
opened. In some cases, you may need to select the file type in the Open dialog. For 
example, say you have a database table in text format that you want to open as a 
database table. In this case you would not only select the file but also specify the 
file type "Text - txt -csv (OpenOffice.org Calc)". The  
("vnd.sun.star.help://scalc/65608?Language=en-US&System=WIN" ) dialog will open. For 
example, you can select the US English option so that the contents are interpreted as 
US English formatted numbers irrespective of the system language. The Englisch names 
of the months will be recognized automatically.

With a Calc sheet open, press F1, under the Index tab, enter "Importing a database 
table as text". that shows info on how to import using various delimiters.

I wasn't really sure about the | character. Delimited with |'s instead of ,'s ?
I've opened *.csv files in OOo directly from the OpenFile dialog.

Hope this helps,
regards,
Richard Holt.

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Re: [newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!

[Chris Keelan]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:04:56 -0500, NDPTAL85 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Meanwhile ArsDigita has closed up shop 

http://www.arsdigita.com/

All the links seem to work. Maybe you meant ADUniversity? The ACS is still
open source and still available, though it's been converted from TCL to Java.


- C



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Re: [newbie] system tray

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On 12 Feb 2002 09:54:55 -0500, Paul Kraus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am running gnome desktop. Is there system tray that will work
> globablly for apps? I want to at a glance see If i have IM's or Email
> waiting to be read. With having to have the app open on the desktop.

Have you tried looking at GNOME's Panel applets? There are several mailchecking
applets, and some IM apps (e.g. GnomeICU) can embed status indicators into a
Panel. If you want, you can even swallow entire apps into a panel, overriding
the window manager.

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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice.org Text File Spreadsheet import

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On 12 Feb 2002 09:25:51 -0500, Paul Kraus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do Import a pipe deliminated text file into an openoffice.org
> spreadsheet?

Assuming that OpenOffice.org can't do it itself...

Have a look to see if there is any way to convert this file into a format that
can be read in OpenOffice.org, via another app like StarOffice 5.2, Gnumeric,
Kspread or even Excel (in WinDOS).

If that doesn't work, try opening the file in a text editor and doing a search
and replace to change all pipe symbols to commas. The resulting file will be in
CSV (Comma Separated Value) format. This format can be read by most
spreadsheets.

-- 
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Windows - 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell
for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system
originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor,
written by a 2 bit company
that can't stand 1 bit of competition!



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Re: [newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:04:56 -0500, NDPTAL85 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Meanwhile ArsDigita has closed up shop and months ago the company that 
> housed the original PostgreSQL developers shut down. Oh yeah Loki shut 
> down too. When these companies shut down, the software doesn't die 
> because its GPL, but thats really no consolation. If they can't afford 
> to work on it any longer then the software really doesn't go anywhere. 
> It just lingers and gets more and more out of date.

None of these companies wrote GPL software as their main product (if at all).
Most of Loki's offerings were closed source. These died with Loki. Other pieces
of software live or die according to their license. PostgreSQL will not die any
time soon -- there are far too many companies and individuals using it for that
to happen. Red Hat have their own database software based on PostgreSQL. If
there is enough interest in the product, the software will live. Just look at
Nautilus: Eazel failed last year but Nautilus development is alive and well. The
original developers don't have to be there; the GPL makes it simple enough for
anybody to take over if necessary. I have seen this happen time and time again
with GPL projects.

The beauty of the GPL and some other open source licenses is that they are
almost totally divorced from business cycles. Sure, some corporte input can be a
bonus, but it is hardly necessary. GPL software only really began to be noticed
by corporations in 1998, but they had been in active development since 1984. In
that time, a complete operating system had been written, complete with a
developer tools and a multitude of applications.

-- 
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"Life does not end at 2.4.0. Think of
it more as a "no more excuses" release."
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Re: [newbie] Disk Problems

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:06:02 +, Mark Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I am getting a few apps lock up and the disk wont stop reading.  I have 
> looked at the messages log file and this is what I see.  I have tried fsck, 
> but my problem is still here.  Does anybody know what else I can try? Or is
> my HD past it!
> 
> Feb 11 15:08:49 localhost kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady 
> SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
> Feb 11 15:08:49 localhost kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x01 { 
> AddrMarkNotFound }, LBAsect=1996556, sector=149837
> Feb 11 15:08:52 localhost kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady 
> SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
> Feb 11 15:08:52 localhost kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x01 { 
> AddrMarkNotFound }, LBAsect=1996556, sector=149837
> Feb 11 15:08:53 localhost kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady 
> SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
> Feb 11 15:08:53 localhost kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x01 { 
> AddrMarkNotFound }, LBAsect=1996556, sector=149837
> Feb 11 15:08:53 localhost kernel: ide0: reset: success

I think your drive is dying. Back up everything ASAP and start looking for
another :(

-- 
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happens only on Athlons", or "Linus is on drugs and it happens for everybody
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Re: [newbie] Re: Frontpage like application for Linux

[Anuerin G. Diaz]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:25:49 -0600
David Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> revealed these words to me:


> 
> Thank you! I used to use UltraEdit and was quite satisfied with the way it 
> works. I agree that Quanta has equivalent or better functionality, though, 
> plus it runs on Linux. If that's the SOLE reason you're keeping 
> Windows,kill it!
> 


hi,

  if its of any interest, i have run ultra-edit in linux using the transgaming winex 
(well i was just testing what applications i could run ;-). it's usable so you could 
try installing it using winex to your all-linux platform but YMMV.

ciao!

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=
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Re: [newbie] writing/deleting files to a FAT32 partition

[Rodrigo]

Guys, Iam sorry for I wrote a lot of wrong things about these FAT32 
stuff . I really got messed up with something else and mixed things 
up. Sorry for this inconvenience.

Rodrigo

ed tharp wrote:

>wrong
>the default owner is whom ever first created the mount point. (root in MDK, 
>during install) change to superuser mode and see
>
>
>On Tuesday 12 February 2002 07:24, you wrote:
>
>>Richard, unfortunately I think that linux can't write/delete from a
>>FAT32 partition. That was possible in the old FAT partitions, but became
>>impossible with FAT32. Maybe you can find a program that makes it for
>>you. For example, there is a program for windows that reads ext2
>>partitions and has experimental support for writting ext2 partitions. It
>>is called explore2fs and you could try it in order to see if it can
>>really write to an ext2 partition and then change your data partition to
>>this format, this is an idea. Also you can look for a linux program that
>>does the opposite, writting to a FAT32 partition. Well, I hope my
>>suggestions can help you, good luck !
>>
>>Rodrigo
>>
>>Barran, Richard wrote:
>>
>>>Hello all,
>>>
>>>My home PC is set up with 3 partitions:
>>>
>>>- a FAT32 partition for Win98.
>>>- another FAT32 partition for data.
>>>- an ext2 partition for Mandrake 8.1 (straight out of the box, nothing
>>>special about it).
>>>
>>>My idea was that I'd use the data partition to store MP3s and so on, and
>>>that I could read from both Windows and Linux. So I download some MP3s
>>>within Windows and store them on the Data partition.
>>>
>>>Then... I tried to delete some of the files from within Linux, and I
>>>couldn't.
>>>I checked the file/folder properties and went 'aha': the owner of files on
>>>the FAT32 drive is 'root' and only 'root' has write permissions, although
>>>anyone can read/execute those files... ok, so I go to a command line, log
>>>in as root, and type 'chmod 777 '... nothing. The command seems
>>>to execute successfully (well, when I use the -v (verbose) switch it
>>>reports success), but a 'ls -l' straight after the chmod shows no changes
>>>to the file attributes.
>>>I tried this on both files and folders on the FAT32 partition, with no
>>>success in either case. Ok, I think, you can't set file/folder rights and
>>>permissions in FAT32, because it doesn't support the concept.
>>>
>>>So I give up... can anyone point out the simple thing I seem to be missing
>>>and that will allow me to manipulate files on a FAT32 partition from
>>>Linux?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Richard
>>>
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Re: [newbie] standard compressed archive format ?

[Anuerin G. Diaz]

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:00:26 -0500
Alaa The Great <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> revealed these words to me:

> On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:10:52 +0100
> Nicolas VERITE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi !
> > 
> > Is there any multi-platform standard in compressed archive formats ?
> > 
> > WinZip is the defacto standard for the Windows platform.
> > 
> > Does WinZip produce .zip files that can be manipulated by Linux
> > OpenSource software ?
> 
> there is a package called unzip
> but I don't know about a tool to make zip files, anyway winzip will open
> tar.gz files.
> 

well if there is a package unzip then there certainly is a package named zip which you 
can use to creata zip files. ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Firewall

[mike]

Rodrigo wrote:
> 
> Hello all !
> What is the best way to make a firewall for a desktop station ? There
> aren't any servers running on my computer.
> Right after installing mdk8.1 I ran the control center and set the
> firewall answering the questions. Some time ago I decided to explore the
> BastilleInteractive options (I was curious) and left almost all the
> items set with the default options. I think it didn't make much
> difference for me and I have the same settings I had with the control
> center's firewall, but there is a doubt: how can I make sure that my
> firewall is running ? I don't see any process called Bastille or
> iptables with ps -ax, I only see a message during the boot process,
> "initializing Bastille Firewall [OK]".
> Another question, are all the standard firewall that come with mdk8.1
> dependant on Bastille or I can disable Bastille at start-up ?
> Thanks,

You can test your firewall to see if it's protecting you here: 

https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

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Re: [newbie] Evolution

[Brian Parish]

Paul,

I am using 1.0.1  In the help it describes how to import, but not from
Outlook directly due to a proprietory format being used.  It does
describe some work-arounds though, using other apps like Mozilla or
Eudora to get the job done in two steps.

On the install issue:  How are you trying to do this?  Should be a
matter of putting the evolution RPM and all the dependent RPMs in a
directory, then saying: "rpm -Uvh *" (without the quotes).

The RPMs you'll need for 1.0.1 are:

evolution-1.0.1-1mdk.i586.rpmlibgal19-0.19-2mdk.i586.rpm
evolution-pilot-1.0.1-1mdk.i586.rpm  libGConf1-1.0.7-2mdk.i586.rpm
gtkhtml-1.0.1-2mdk.i586.rpm  libgtkhtml20-1.0.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
libcapplet1-1.5.11-1mdk.i586.rpm

I think there is a slightly later version of some of these on cooker
now, but have no idea what they fix.

Hope this helps.

Brian

On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 00:50, Paul Kraus wrote:
> I am trying to setup evolution. Is there any way I can import my outlook
> contacts or a csv or anything? Also it is version 0.13. When I download
> the 1.x version it won't let me instal. Says it is already installed.
> Thanks
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] Samba

[Dave Sherman]

On Tue, 2002-02-12 at 10:55, Paul Kraus wrote:
> i start the demon. I can smbclient -L any windows pc on the network. I
> can see my machine in all the windows network neighborhoods. But when I
> try to attch from anywhere I am rejected. When I even try to do an
> smbclient -L  as root I get this message.
> 
> added interface ip=192.168.254.100 bcast=192.168.254.255
> nmask=255.255.255.0
> added interface ip=192.168.157.1 Bcast = 192.168.157.255
> nmask=255.255.255.0
> added interface ip = 175.16.17.1 bcast=172.16.17.255 nmask 255.255.255.0
> Got a positve name query response from 192.168.254.1 (192.168.254.100)
> error connecting to 192.168.254.100:139 (connection refused)
> Connection to  failed

This looks like you don't have Samba users set up yet. Samba has its own
/etc/smbusers and /etc/smbpasswd files to authenticate users and
passwords over the network. For small networks, you generally don't need
to worry about the smbusers file, but the smbpasswd file is always used.
To create Samba users, run the following command as root:
# smbpasswd -a 

When you press Enter, you will be prompted to enter a password for the
named user, twice. The user name and password should match the Windows
user name and password when they login to their desktop. It is not
necessary to match Windows user accounts to actual Linux user accounts
in Samba, though it might make things easier to administer for you.
Also, if you DO use actual Linux user accounts, then any time a user
opens Network Neighborhood to view the server, they will automatically
have a share created from their home directory (based on the [homes]
section of smb.conf). Also see my comments below...

> # Share Definitions ==
> [homes]
>comment = Home Directories
>browseable = yes
>writable = no
So when a user logs in, their Linux home directory is read-only. You
might want to change this, unless you have a good reason. Remember, the
home share is created on the fly for each user, and is not visible to
other users. That is to say, when I login to my laptop as "dave" and
open Net Neighborhood, I see a Public share and a Dave share on my Samba
server. My wife sees a Public share and a Carrie share. We do not see
each other's home shares, only our own.

> # This one is useful for people to share files
> [tmp]
>comment = Temporary file space
>path = /home/paul/share
>read only = no
>public = yes
This is a good one. Remember to set the directory permissions on share/
to 777, otherwise Samba won't really be able to use it properly. Also,
notice that "writable=no" is the *same* as "read only=yes", and vise
versa.

> # A publicly accessible directory, but read only, except for people in
> # the "staff" group
> [public]
> comment = Public Stuff
> path = /home/pdk/share
> public = yes
> writable = yes
>write list = @staff
Another good one, with an entire user group (taken from the /etc/groups
file) given permission to the share. Again, remember to set proper
directory permissions.

> # a service which has a different directory for each machine that connects
> # this allows you to tailor configurations to incoming machines. You could
> # also use the %u option to tailor it by user name.
> # The %m gets replaced with the machine name that is connecting.
> [pchome]
>   comment = PC Directories
>   path = /usr/pc/%m
>   public = no
>   writable = yes
Does this one exist on your system, or is it a relic of the sample
smb.conf file? Personally, I would never put a share in /usr. Move it to
/home instead.

> # The following two entries demonstrate how to share a directory so that two
> # users can place files there that will be owned by the specific users. In this
> # setup, the directory should be writable by both users and should have the
> # sticky bit set on it to prevent abuse. Obviously this could be extended to
> # as many users as required.
> [myshare]
>comment = Mary's and Fred's stuff
>path = /usr/somewhere/shared
>valid users = mary fred
>public = no
>writable = yes
>printable = no
> #   create mask = 0765
I *know* this one is a relic from the sample file. However, it shoes a
good example of the creation mask to automatically set permissions on
all files created in this share, so others can access them as well.

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RE: [newbie] proftpd question

[Mithrilhall2000]

Maybe I sent the wrong message. When the user "anonymous" logs in he is sent
to the proper directory but they are able to browse other users home
directories and are capable of downloading from them.

Eric

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Sent: February 12, 2002 9:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] proftpd question


Mithrilhall,

That somehow seems contradictory. If users are to
be sent to their home directory, then they need to
long in as themselves, no?

I would think that you'd want anonymous logins to
be sent to /pub or whatever it is nowadays. Maybe
I'm wrong.

Miark



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Subject: [newbie] proftpd question


> I have set up proftpd to allow a user by the name anonymous to login and
> download files. They seem to be able to browse my other directories and
> download from them.
>
> Is there a way to make the user "anonymous" only able to view their "home"
> directory and download from that alone?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mithrilhall
>
>
>
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[newbie] Firewall

[Rodrigo]

Hello all !
What is the best way to make a firewall for a desktop station ? There 
aren't any servers running on my computer.
Right after installing mdk8.1 I ran the control center and set the 
firewall answering the questions. Some time ago I decided to explore the 
BastilleInteractive options (I was curious) and left almost all the 
items set with the default options. I think it didn't make much 
difference for me and I have the same settings I had with the control 
center's firewall, but there is a doubt: how can I make sure that my 
firewall is running ? I don't see any process called Bastille or 
iptables with ps -ax, I only see a message during the boot process, 
"initializing Bastille Firewall [OK]".
Another question, are all the standard firewall that come with mdk8.1 
dependant on Bastille or I can disable Bastille at start-up ?
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Re: [newbie] writing/deleting files to a FAT32 partition

[ed tharp]

wrong
the default owner is whom ever first created the mount point. (root in MDK, 
during install) change to superuser mode and see


On Tuesday 12 February 2002 07:24, you wrote:
> Richard, unfortunately I think that linux can't write/delete from a
> FAT32 partition. That was possible in the old FAT partitions, but became
> impossible with FAT32. Maybe you can find a program that makes it for
> you. For example, there is a program for windows that reads ext2
> partitions and has experimental support for writting ext2 partitions. It
> is called explore2fs and you could try it in order to see if it can
> really write to an ext2 partition and then change your data partition to
> this format, this is an idea. Also you can look for a linux program that
> does the opposite, writting to a FAT32 partition. Well, I hope my
> suggestions can help you, good luck !
>
> Rodrigo
>
> Barran, Richard wrote:
> >Hello all,
> >
> >My home PC is set up with 3 partitions:
> >
> >- a FAT32 partition for Win98.
> >- another FAT32 partition for data.
> >- an ext2 partition for Mandrake 8.1 (straight out of the box, nothing
> >special about it).
> >
> >My idea was that I'd use the data partition to store MP3s and so on, and
> >that I could read from both Windows and Linux. So I download some MP3s
> >within Windows and store them on the Data partition.
> >
> >Then... I tried to delete some of the files from within Linux, and I
> >couldn't.
> >I checked the file/folder properties and went 'aha': the owner of files on
> >the FAT32 drive is 'root' and only 'root' has write permissions, although
> >anyone can read/execute those files... ok, so I go to a command line, log
> > in as root, and type 'chmod 777 '... nothing. The command seems
> > to execute successfully (well, when I use the -v (verbose) switch it
> > reports success), but a 'ls -l' straight after the chmod shows no changes
> > to the file attributes.
> >I tried this on both files and folders on the FAT32 partition, with no
> >success in either case. Ok, I think, you can't set file/folder rights and
> >permissions in FAT32, because it doesn't support the concept.
> >
> >So I give up... can anyone point out the simple thing I seem to be missing
> >and that will allow me to manipulate files on a FAT32 partition from
> > Linux?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Richard
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RE: [newbie] 8.1 ZIP drive

[Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP)]

Thanks for the tip. I tried that, and got:
"mount: /dev/hdd is not a block device"

Tried it also with /dev/hdd4, and got:
"mount: /dev/hdd4 is not a block device"

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> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] 8.1 ZIP drive
> 
> 
> On Tuesday 12 February 2002 11:56 am, you wrote:
> > I've got an internal ATAPI ZIP drive in my box (it's the 
> SECOND device 
> > on the SECOND IDE channel). Harddrake sees it as hdd. I've tried:
> > Mkdir /mnt/zip
> > Mount /mnt/zip /dev/hdd4 (harddrake reports the ZIP drive 
> as HDD -- it's
> > the 2nd device on the 2nd IDE channel) ...and I got this error:
> > "mount: /dev/hdd4 is not a block device"
> > ...so I tried:
> > Mount /mnt/zip /dev/hdd
> > ...and I got this error:
> > "mount: /dev/hdd is not a block device"
> 
> Well, I'm not sure it makes any diff, but I think it's mount 
> -t type dev dir.
> So, try:  mount -t vfat /dev/hdd mnt/zip
> if that works, fix your fstab.
> 
> -s
> 
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Re: [newbie] Space left

[tester]

Paul Kraus wrote:

>   How do I see how much space is left on a drive? ls -lt doesn't show
> space left. I prefer command line. Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 8.1 disk 2 & 3

[David]

thanks.. downloading now


On Tue, 2002-02-12 at 09:56, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote:
> Take a look at this page, the CDs 2&3 should correspond to those in the
> retail packs so Second Install CD and Supplementary Open Source Apps CD are
> what you would get with download CDs. HTH
> 
> http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/81/applications
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:04 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 8.1 disk 2 & 3
> 
> 
> Hi list, 
> I just recently learned of there being a disk 2 & 3 to the MD8.1
> 'set'(from a reply in htis mailing list actually). Now before I download
> this 1.36 Gig for the other disks, can someone inform me of what is on
> them and its importance to me?
> 
> tia
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Re: [newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!

[Kenn Yahoo]

okay, i'm curious .. WHICH linus t book?


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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!


|
| >
| >Sorry, I forgot to ask this in my first reply but why do you feel the
need
| >to convert your friend to Linux if he is happy with Mac OS X?
| >
| For a very simple reason: I don't think that proprietary software is a
good
| thing.  Neither do I trust that Mac suddenly coming into Unices and even
| open source with their next OS is anything but opportunism born out of
dire
| need.  As for their OS - look at Linus T's comments about it in his book.
|
| Cheers,
|
| Andrei
|
| _
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RE: Anybody Else? Re: [newbie] in runlevel 3 - screen goes blank after a time

[Nick]

My machine does that too. Assumed it was the 3d screen saver not being able
to display correctly because i have a rather strange video card (elsa erazor
x2). I changed my screen saver to something more simple and it was ok. Do
you have to reboot after the blanking? Does your monitor go into power
saving mode? Does you status light on your screen turn amber or does it stay
green?

ProXy_ReD


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Anybody Else? Re: [newbie] in runlevel 3 - screen goes blank
after a time


Thanks, but I think it's in the OS, not the monitor (this display is
switched to run 4 boxes and Mandrake Linux is the  *only*  one that goes
blank).

Where do I disable screen blanking in init 3 (or in the command line
interface) ?

Thanks, Jon

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Subject: Re: [newbie] in runlevel 3 - screen goes blank after a time


> On Monday 11 February 2002 02:37, you wrote:
> > Hello list,
> >
> > While I am running in runlevel 3 (not X) the display or screen will
> > go blank after a while of inactivity. What file should I edit to stop
> > the "screen blanking" or whatever is causing the screen to go black.
> >
> > Again, that's in init 3.
> >
> > The only things I can find on the subject talk about changing the
> > value for xset in xinitrc.
> >
> > Thanks, Jon
>
> It's possible that your computer and monitor powersaver features are
> interacting to cause this. One of my machines goes into powersave mode
> after about five minutes, including shutting down the monitor output.
> The connected monitor then goes into powersave mode because it detects
> no video signal.
>
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>
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Re: [newbie] FrontPage like applicatiopn for Linux ?

[tester]

Mark Finlay wrote:

> check out http://html.about.com/cs/linuxunixeditors/
> 
> Mark Finlay
> 
> On Sun, 2002-02-10 at 18:41, Hanan Z. Shargi wrote:
> 
>>Does anybody know of any visual web building application for linux such as 
>>Front Page ??
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>--
>>Hanan Z. Shargi
>>Registered Linux User# 259916
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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many platforms.  Bluefish seems to work tolerably well.

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RE: [newbie] system tray

[Myers, Dennis R NWO]

Title: RE: [newbie] system tray





Have a look at the gKrellm app I think you can configure it to do a mail notify, not sure about IM.


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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] system tray



I am running gnome desktop. Is there system tray that will work
globablly for apps? I want to at a glance see If i have IM's or Email
waiting to be read. With having to have the app open on the desktop.


PK

[newbie] system tray

[Paul Kraus]

I am running gnome desktop. Is there system tray that will work
globablly for apps? I want to at a glance see If i have IM's or Email
waiting to be read. With having to have the app open on the desktop.

PK






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[newbie] Samba

[Paul Kraus]

I am trying to setup samba. I am able to connect to other pc's using the
smbmount command. But when I can't connect to my pc from others on the
network. The Smb Server is running. I can see my laptop in network
neighborhood on the windows machines but when I click on my pc I get an
error saying its not on the network???

Paul






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Re: [newbie] DelTree

[tester]

Paul Kraus wrote:

> How do I delete a directory that contains files and more directories. I want to 
>erase everything in the folder. Command Line please. < I hated the command line 
>but its like crack, very addictive. Its actually easier and much more efficient then 
>the gui. If your not using it I recommend learning as much as possible. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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rm -r /whateverdirectoryname/and/path -f


the -r is for recursive (i. e. descend into subdirectories) and the -f 
is for force without asking

While

rm -rf /whateverdirectoryname/and/path

will work to the same effect, it is considered bad form.  Imagine that 
you type this far

rm -rf /

and then the household cat launches for your desktop and plops a fat paw 
on the enter key.  Your entire filesystem(s) are bye-bye, even 
/mnt/windows_c if you happen to have one and it is writeable.

Aside from having the household cat for supper, there is no 
compensation, and of course even less when you fat-finger the enter key 
yourself.  Take it from someone who has committed that faux pas.

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[newbie] OpenOffice.org Text File Spreadsheet import

[Paul Kraus]

How do Import a pipe deliminated text file into an openoffice.org
spreadsheet?

Paul






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[newbie] Evolution

[Paul Kraus]

I am trying to setup evolution. Is there any way I can import my outlook
contacts or a csv or anything? Also it is version 0.13. When I download
the 1.x version it won't let me instal. Says it is already installed.
Thanks

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Re: [newbie] 8.1 ZIP drive

[s]

On Tuesday 12 February 2002 11:56 am, you wrote:
> I've got an internal ATAPI ZIP drive in my box (it's the SECOND device on
> the SECOND IDE channel). Harddrake sees it as hdd. 
> I've tried:
> Mkdir /mnt/zip
> Mount /mnt/zip /dev/hdd4 (harddrake reports the ZIP drive as HDD -- it's
> the 2nd device on the 2nd IDE channel) ...and I got this error:
> "mount: /dev/hdd4 is not a block device"
> ...so I tried:
> Mount /mnt/zip /dev/hdd
> ...and I got this error:
> "mount: /dev/hdd is not a block device"

Well, I'm not sure it makes any diff, but I think it's mount -t type dev dir.
So, try:  mount -t vfat /dev/hdd mnt/zip
if that works, fix your fstab.

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Re: [newbie] NVIDIA rpm

[s]

On Monday 11 February 2002 07:23 pm, you wrote:
> All,

> them).  Does anyone have any other suggestions to get this to work
> properly?

Well, don't know if it'll help you, but I had to put an agpgart option in my 
XF86Config-4 file as the default on later nvidia drivers is 'try system 
agpgart first'.  this caused mine to exit right back to console.  By changing 
that to 'use nvidia's agpgart' fixed mine.  Looks like this:
Option  "NvAGP" "1"

and this one is cool too - unless you like the big white screen with 
nividia's logo:   Option  "NoLogo" "on"

And this one is really neato:
 Option  "CursorShadow" "on"
 Option  "CursorShadowXOffset" "2"
 Option  "CursorShadowYOffset" "1"

Read that 60 page doc from nvidia - there's all kinds of goodies in there.

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Re: [newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!

[Andrei Raevsky]

>
>Sorry, I forgot to ask this in my first reply but why do you feel the need 
>to convert your friend to Linux if he is happy with Mac OS X?
>
For a very simple reason: I don't think that proprietary software is a good 
thing.  Neither do I trust that Mac suddenly coming into Unices and even 
open source with their next OS is anything but opportunism born out of dire 
need.  As for their OS - look at Linus T's comments about it in his book.

Cheers,

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Re: [newbie] Installing StarOffice 5.2

[Kaj Haulrich]

Robin Turner wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday 13 February 2002 07:15, christiyono wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > How to install Star office 5.2 in Mandrake 8.0 that every user can
> > load and use it without installing in each user home directory? Is
> > it true that every user must install it personally?
> 
> Unfortunately, yes.  You could probably write a shell script to
> automate the process, though, or install for one user and copy the
> fiiles to other users' home directories.
> 
> Robin
> 
I'm sorry, but on this matter I must disagree completely with you, Robin
!
On my box I have Star Office installed in my /opt/office52 directory.
Doing this is easy : become root, go to the CD (or ftp-site), change
directory to linux, cd to office52, cd to program. Verify the presence
of the file "setup". Now, issue the command : ./setup /net (or ./setup
-net) depending on the distro. This will install the whole kidoodle once
and for all. Remove the install-media.

Then become a normal user. Go to the directory where you installed SO,
and -once again- find the "setup" file. Run it (this time without the ./
things) and it will install about 1.5 MB in this users home directory.
Repeat the procedure for every user on the system. Done and ready to use
!

HTH

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[newbie] Network Issues. (Has been posted before. Last post on this subject)

[Paul Kraus]

I still can not get my laptop to boot up without eth1 failing. MDk found
two nics in my laptop even though there was only one pcmcia nic. eth0
doesn't start at startup. eth1 does. When it does it fails... and it
takes forever to fail so boot up takes so long. Once its up I can go
into mandrake config -> Networking -> Connection -> Expert Setup -> eth1
then I can click activate and it comes up immeditly. Any thoughts? I
hate having to do this evertime I boot.

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Re: [newbie] NVIDIA rpm

[Ronald J. Hall]

"Terry S." wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> Thanks to everyone who responded to my dilema of trying to get the
> NVIDIA_kernel RPM for my LM 8.1 system.  I did as everyone suggested and
> downloaded, rebuilt, and instlled the source RPM.  Things seemed to go well
> as the packages installed, with only the customary warnings that NVIDIA
> warns you about when installing the packages.  I made the necessary changes
> in my /etc/X11/XFconfig-4 (i think that's what it's called, i'm not at my
> linux box) as suggested by NVIDIA's website, and then rebooted.  Things
> booted up just fine, but as soon as X started up and showed the KDM login
> screen, the machine completely locked up, forcing to press the reset button
> to get out of it.  Anyone have any more suggestions on how to remedy this
> situation?  I've looked the the Xserver logs, and nothing seems out of the
> ordinary.  It shows that the NVIDIA kernel, the NVdriver, and even the glx
> libraries loading ok (at least it doesn't show any errors about loading
> them).  Does anyone have any other suggestions to get this to work properly?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Terry

Terry, through 2 Nvidia video cards, I've always done away with the graphical
login...kill that, then when you logon, you just have to do a "startx" from
the shell...

Works great here...  ;-)

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RE: [newbie] wvdial used with ifup (Answered my own Question.)

[Franki]

Hi all,

If anyone is interested, here is how I just got ip aliases for ppp0 working
with wvdial in control of the connection.

add your ifcfg-ppp0:0 line as normal, (or use linuxconf to do it.)
edit the file and add the line DEVICE="ppp0:0" to the top of it..

do the same for any other ip aliases files.

then create a executable file called "dial" and put it in /usr/sbin
in that file do something like this:

#!/bin/sh
wvdial & # The & starts wvdial in the background or it won't return control
of your terminal.
sleep 20
ifup ppp0:0
ifup ppp0:1
ifup ppp0:2
/etc/firewall/gShield.rc #This is my firewall, you may have something
different.
fetchmail # If you want to start fetchmail deamon after dialup


then edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local and at the end add:  /usr/sbin/dial &

then your system will dial when it boots, and bring up your ip aliases.

then you can create a "hangup" file in /usr/sbin with just "killall wvdial"
in it.

and thats it, now I can use virtual IP's with wvdial, which does a much
better job of connecting to my ISP then any tool Mandrake or Redhat have
thus far released.


pretty easy actually, it was the device line that had me..



rgds

Frank

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Subject: [newbie] wvdial used with ifup


Hi all,

I want to use ifup and ifdown to activate/deactivate my dialup connection,
but I want to use wvdial to establish the connection.. with no extra
parameters.

The reason for this, is that I want to bring up all the virtual IP's that
are associated with ppp0..

wvdial connects great, but unfortunately, it doesn't bring up any of the
virtual IP's with the interface..

is there a way to do it manually? or as I stated, use ifup ppp0 to activate
the interface and bring up all the virtuals IP's around it.

Has anyone done this or is it not possible?


rgds

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Re: [newbie] redhat programs on mandrake

[Randy Kramer]

Stojs wrote:
> can you run linux programs for redhat on mandrake?

Maybe.  How are you getting the programs:
   * Are they binary rpms?  If so, there is a chance they will work.  
   * Are they source rpms?  I don't no -- I think there is a chance
because I believe they get compiled when you install them.
   * Are they tar.gz source files?  There should be a good chance
because you compile these -- in general, I think any tar.gz should work
if the dependencies are satisfied.

And, the dependencies need to be satisfied in any of these cases.

But, it would be better in the case of an rpm to get an rpm made for
your distro and the particular version of your distro.

Note also that there was a change in rpm format (or something) between
rpm 3 and 4 and the two are not compatible.

Mandrake has many programs "hidden away" in things like cooker or
contrib -- are you looking for a particular program and can't find it?

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Re: [newbie] redhat programs on mandrake

[Dave Sherman]

On Tue, 2002-02-12 at 11:31, Stojs wrote:
> can you run linux programs for redhat on mandrake?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Stojs

Generally speaking, yes. RedHat compiles their RPMs for a lower CPU
platform (i386 instead of i586), and occasionally RedHat's filesystem
layout is different enough from Mandrake to cause a program to give
errors, but these are rare enough and easily fixed that you should have
no major problems. And most of the time (in my experience -- YMMV),
RedHat RPMs just install and go!

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Re: [newbie] redhat programs on mandrake

[Michel Clasquin]

On Tuesday 12 February 2002 19:31, Stojs wrote:
> can you run linux programs for redhat on mandrake?

Generally, yes, if the redhat rpm is fairly recent. But look on 
rpmfind.net for a mandrake version first.

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Re: [newbie] pdf maker

[Michel Clasquin]

On Wednesday 13 February 2002 10:21, christiyono wrote:
> Hi...
>
> Is it any application in linux which  able to make/convert any documents
> in pdf format?

Yup. Scribus is a DTP app still in early beta but getting on nicely. It 
exports its files straight into pdf.

Kword will save to pdf, but you do it via the print menu - just select the 
pdf  "printer" and go. Same goes for Abiword.

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Re: [newbie] proftpd question

[Anuerin G. Diaz]

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:40:18 -0800
"Eric Estes -=RCN Mail=-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> revealed these words to me:

> I have set up proftpd to allow a user by the name anonymous to login and
> download files. They seem to be able to browse my other directories and
> download from them.
> 
> Is there a way to make the user "anonymous" only able to view their "home"
> directory and download from that alone?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Mithrilhall
> 
> 

edit your /etc/proftpd.conf and add the following lines at the bottom (or uncomment 
this one if you have it)

# Default root can be used to put users in a chroot environment.
# As an example if you have a user foo and you want to put foo in /home/foo
# chroot environment you would do this:
# 
#DefaultRoot /home/foo foo  

DefaultRoot ~

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Re: [newbie] Audio CDs rodrigo

[paolo brusasco]

Rodrigo wrote:

> Guys, I need help !
> I can't play audio CDs. When I run kscd, I always get the following 
> message: "read or access error, make sure you have access permissions 
> to /dev/cdrom".
> I tried  Configuration>KDE>Sound>Audio CD IO Slave to change de device 
> to /dev/hdc or /dev/cdrom0, but the problem remained the same, same 
> error message.
>
> I started ferretting my /dev directory and found these links:
> cdrom -> /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 (this one appears flashing on a red 
> background, as if it was an invalid link ?!? )
> cdrom0 -> /dev/cdroms/cdrom0
>
> well, all of the above links will end up pointing to 
> /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd as /dev/hdc does. Seems to be 
> everything ok, unless for the /dev/cdrom flashing in red. I can mount 
> data cds with mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom but, if I use mount /dev/cdrom 
> /mnt/cdrom, I get an error message, telling that there is no cdrom 
> device (?!?!?).
>
> Another problem, I can't mount the cdrom by the icon on my KDE 
> desktop, it says "/bin/sh - permission denied". I tried /bin/chmod a+x 
> mount and chmod a+w /mnt/cdrom but it didn't work. The message now is 
> "you must be superuser to mount".
> So, I can only mount as root using the command line.
>
> The final issue: I don't have a sound card, I have a media controller, 
> an onboard via686a. There is no cable linking the cdrom device to my 
> mother board, so, the audio playback must be digital by the IDE 
> interface. At least that was the way I played audio cds in Window$. 
> The question is, in case I can solve the "access" problem with kscd, 
> how can I make it play in digital mode ?
>
> I am using mdk8.1 and I can play mp3, wav, midi ok, without any 
> problem. In other words, my media controller seems to be working 
> pretty fine.
> If someone knows how to solve this "mess", please help me, I'd 
> appreciate !
> Thanks,
>
> Rodrigo

I don't know if it can help but for me the only way to make kscd work 
was changing the file (home)/.kde/share/config/kscdrc by a text editor 
changing the row  CDDevice=hda  (in my system I connected  cd as master 
and hd as slave to add a little bit of confusion), in yours should be 
hdc of course.
Idem no way to mount cd from kde panel using devices like 
/dev/cdanything only way was /dev/hda;
someone said some days ago that a program called xmms-cdread should read 
cds via ide digital cable;
someone says it is in 8.1 distribution, someother says it don 't. bye.





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Re: [newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!

[NDPTAL85]

On Tuesday, February 12, 2002, at 11:12  AM, Andrei Raevsky wrote:

Hi,

I am looking for a good, thourough and detailed, technical comparison of Mac OS X versus Linux.  A friend of mine is a really "religious" Mac user and it will take a lot to make him try Linux.  I would like to help him with this.

Please send me any good articles (or links) you have.

Thanks,

Andrei

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Re: [newbie] Space left

[Ronald J. Hall]

Paul Kraus wrote:
> 
> How do I see how much space is left on a drive? ls -lt doesn't show
> space left. I prefer command line. Thanks.

do a "du" or "df"... Also, for more info, do a "man df" etc, etc, to see all
the options. Lots there. ;-)

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[newbie] 8.1 ZIP drive

[Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP)]

I've got an internal ATAPI ZIP drive in my box (it's the SECOND device on
the SECOND IDE channel). Harddrake sees it as hdd. It used to work just fine
under 8.0, but since I did a complete wipe-n-install of 8.1, I cannot mount
it within Linux. The drive powers during POST, so I know the connections are
still good. I've got a known good ZIP disk in the drive.

* Here is my entire FSTAB:
/dev/hda1 / ext2 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hda6 /home ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto
iocharset=iso8859-1,ro,nosuid,noauto,user,exec,codepage=850,nodev 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto
iocharset=iso8859-1,rw,sync,nosuid,exec,user,noauto,nodev,codepage=850,unhid
e 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hdb1 /var ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto
user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0

* And from dmesg (anything that looked interesting or remotely related is
included here, the rest cut): Linux version 2.4.8-26mdk
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.96 2731 (Mandrake Linux
8.1 2.96-0.62mdk)) #1 Sun Sep 23 17:06:39 CEST 2001 Calibrating delay
loop... 1064.96 BogoMIPS
Memory: 254824k/262080k available (1086k kernel code, 6868k reserved, 397k
data, 712k init, 0k highmem)
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
hda: ST36530A, ATA DISK drive
hdb: WDC AC26400R, ATA DISK drive
hdc: SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-152L, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: 12715920 sectors (6511 MB) w/448KiB Cache, CHS=791/255/63, UDMA(33)
hdb: 12594960 sectors (6449 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=6149/64/32, UDMA(33)
hdc: ATAPI 52X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache, DMA
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
ide-floppy driver 0.97
hdd: 98304kB, 196608 blocks, 512 sector size
hdd: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm Partition
check:
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 < p5 p6 >
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0: p1
 /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0: p4
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
ide-floppy driver 0.97
Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
sb: No ISAPnP cards found, trying standard ones...
SB 4.11 detected OK (220)
 at 0x220 irq 7 dma 0
 at 0x330 irq 7 dma 0,0
cdrom: open failed.
 /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0: p4
 /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0: p4
devfs: devfs_register(): device already registered: "0"
cdrom: open failed.
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
cdrom: open failed.

I've tried:
Mkdir /mnt/zip
Mount /mnt/zip /dev/hdd4 (harddrake reports the ZIP drive as HDD -- it's the
2nd device on the 2nd IDE channel) ...and I got this error:
"mount: /dev/hdd4 is not a block device"
...so I tried:
Mount /mnt/zip /dev/hdd
...and I got this error:
"mount: /dev/hdd is not a block device"

root.drewvogel:~$ ls -ail /dev/ide
total 0
3640 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Jan 19 17:26 ./
  10 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31  1969 ../
   10620 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Jan 21 11:28 cd/
6770 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Jan 20 14:50 hd/
3650 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Jan 19 10:32 host0/
6760 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Jan 19 17:19 zip/
root.drewvogel:~$ ls -ail /dev/ide/zip/
total 0
6760 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Jan 19 17:19 ./
3640 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Jan 19 17:26 ../

Any ideas? I hadn't noticed the /dev/ide/zip directory before, but it's
empty... Don't know how to proceed!

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[newbie] PCMCI external CD-RW

[Hanan Z. Shargi]

Hi again,

I am shopping for an external CD-RW drive for my notebook, one that I'd be 
able to use with my PC as well ( thats why I'm looking for ones with USB + 
pcmci interfaces ), I need some advise from you folks.

will any CDRW drive with a pcmci interface work with Mandrake ?? or do I have 
to look for one that states specifically that it works with linux ? I checked 
the Mandrake hardware database but it mostly showed internal ones, and wasnt 
of good help.
same thing for the USB interface...does it really need to secify that it works 
with linux ?

... Or shall I go for SCSI ?? ( if someone suggests that I go for SCSI please 
also advise with a good SCSI inteface card for notebooks ():-)

any advise will be highly appreciated :)

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Re: [newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!

[NDPTAL85]

 On Tuesday, February 12, 2002, at 11:12  AM, Andrei Raevsky wrote:

Hi,

I am looking for a good, thourough and detailed, technical comparison of Mac OS X versus Linux.  A friend of mine is a really "religious" Mac user and it will take a lot to make him try Linux.  I would like to help him with this.

Please send me any good articles (or links) you have.

Thanks,

Andrei

I use both Mac OS X and Mandrake Linux. Either one is fine for desktop usage. Let him stick to what he has, there really is no need for you to convince him to switch. Mac OS X is an excellent Unix by the way. There isn't much you can do with one that you can't do with the other.



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[newbie] Postfix on Mandrake 8.1

[Kevin Old]

Hello all,

Quick question on using Postfix on Mandrake 8.1.  What I have is basically a
gateway for my intranet that all machines go through.  2 NICs on the machine
and a DSL connection.  NIC with IP 192.168.1.1 is eth1 and is the internal
IP.  NIC with 192.168.1.5 is the one that ppp0 is bound to.  I have a domain
at dyndns.org - oldcomm.dyndns.org and have the it updating the IP via one
of the clients so that I can get to my machine from oldcomm.homeip.net even
when I get a new IP.  Haven't set an MX record on dyndns.org
configurationthey said I could do it without that.

Now with all that said, I want to configure Postfix (or Sendmail) to simply
send and receive mail from my domain (oldcomm.homeip.net).  I've looked at
several tutorials and examples and can't figure out what I need to do.  I
can send config files if needed.

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[newbie] redhat programs on mandrake

[Stojs]

can you run linux programs for redhat on mandrake?

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Re: [newbie] proftpd question

[Miark]

Mithrilhall,

That somehow seems contradictory. If users are to
be sent to their home directory, then they need to
long in as themselves, no?

I would think that you'd want anonymous logins to
be sent to /pub or whatever it is nowadays. Maybe
I'm wrong.

Miark



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To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 11:40 PM
Subject: [newbie] proftpd question


> I have set up proftpd to allow a user by the name anonymous to login and
> download files. They seem to be able to browse my other directories and
> download from them.
> 
> Is there a way to make the user "anonymous" only able to view their "home"
> directory and download from that alone?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Mithrilhall
> 
> 
> 
> 





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[newbie] Disk Problems

[Mark Evans]

Hi

I am getting a few apps lock up and the disk wont stop reading.  I have 
looked at the messages log file and this is what I see.  I have tried fsck, 
but my problem is still here.  Does anybody know what else I can try? Or is
my HD past it!

Feb 11 15:08:49 localhost kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady 
SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
Feb 11 15:08:49 localhost kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x01 { 
AddrMarkNotFound }, LBAsect=1996556, sector=149837
Feb 11 15:08:52 localhost kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady 
SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
Feb 11 15:08:52 localhost kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x01 { 
AddrMarkNotFound }, LBAsect=1996556, sector=149837
Feb 11 15:08:53 localhost kernel: hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady 
SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
Feb 11 15:08:53 localhost kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x01 { 
AddrMarkNotFound }, LBAsect=1996556, sector=149837
Feb 11 15:08:53 localhost kernel: ide0: reset: success

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Re: [newbie] quicktime plugin for linux ?

[Kenn Yahoo]

okay, you sold me ... i just ordered it, and it's downloading on the other
box right now ...

thanks for the good advice ...

kennM


- Original Message -
From: "Sridhar Dhanapalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] quicktime plugin for linux ?


| On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:22:48 -0600, "Kenn Yahoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| > Greetings.
| >
| > Does anyone have a recommendation for a quicktime plugin for linux
browsers?
| > A search on Google turned up Crossover from Codeweavers ... does anyone
have
| > any feedback about this product?  I was hoping for free, but I'll spend
the
| > $20 if it's a worthwhile program and nothing else is available.
|
| The problem with Quicktime is that most videos nowadays are encoded in the
| Sorenson format. This format is patented and it would be difficult to
legally
| create a decoder for it.
|
| Codeweavers' Crossover is an excellent product. It uses WINE to allow
Quicktime,
| Shockwave, and the MS viewers for Word, Excel and Powerpoint to work in
x86
| GNU/Linux. While the apps don't work quite as well as they do in Windows,
they
| are still perfectly usable. Codeweavers is a good company, and they have
devoted
| a lot of resources to WINE development. Your US$20 contributes to this
| development, so in effect you are supporting open source.
|
| --
| Sridhar Dhanapalan
|
| "Software evolves. It isn't designed. The only question is how strictly
you
| _control_ the evolution, and how open you are to external sources of
mutations."
| -- Linus Torvalds
|
|






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RE: [newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!

[Jason Ditri]

Title: Message



Now, I 
ask:
 
Have 
you ever come across a Mac user whom is not religious about 
it?
 
 
I am 
getting that way about (Mandrake) Linux...
 
 
 
Also, 
thanks to all the people who replied to "Speed... or lack of?" post, I added 
256MB of RAM, and I hardly notice any slow down.  I read about updating my 
kernel, I don't know if I need to just yet.
 
 
Thanks 
again!
 
 

  
  -Original Message-From: Andrei Raevsky 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:13 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] Mac OS 
  X versus Linux?!
  
  
  
  Hi,
  I am looking for a good, thourough and detailed, technical comparison of 
  Mac OS X versus Linux.  A friend of mine is a really "religious" Mac user 
  and it will take a lot to make him try Linux.  I would like to help him 
  with this.
  Please send me any good articles (or links) you have.
  Thanks,
  Andrei
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  226850
  
  
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Re: [newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!

[Nicolas VERITE]

Andrei Raevsky wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am looking for a good, thourough and detailed, technical comparison 
> of Mac OS X versus Linux.  A friend of mine is a really "religious" 
> Mac user and it will take a lot to make him try Linux.  I would like 
> to help him with this.
>
> Please send me any good articles (or links) you have.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrei
>
The best document I've ever read is "Tales of the BeOS refugee".

This compares not only MacOS X and Linux,
but also Win and BeOS.
In fact, it is a comparison of BeOS and MacOS X,
with a look at Linux and Win.
The point of view is : "the power-user".

Really a reference document to me !

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=421
You can also read comments,
there is a "feedback version" of this doc somewhere,
but I can't find it...

Enjoy !

Nyco




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[newbie] Mac OS X versus Linux?!

[Andrei Raevsky]

Hi,
I am looking for a good, thourough and detailed, technical comparison of Mac OS X versus Linux.  A friend of mine is a really "religious" Mac user and it will take a lot to make him try Linux.  I would like to help him with this.
Please send me any good articles (or links) you have.
Thanks,
Andrei
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Re: [newbie] finding my ip

[Michael Viron]

Yes.  Or at the very least, it is the IP that you currently have leased
from the dhcp server.

Michael

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Michael Viron
Registered Linux User #81978
Senior Systems & Administration Consultant
Web Spinners, University of West Florida

At 10:33 AM 02/12/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>Is the ip address that shows up when I run ifconfig my real ip address?
>I connect via adsl i get assigned dynamic ip's, but how do I find out
>what my real ip address is right now?
>
>- Paul
>
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Re: [newbie] quicktime plugin for linux ?

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:22:48 -0600, "Kenn Yahoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings.
> 
> Does anyone have a recommendation for a quicktime plugin for linux browsers?
> A search on Google turned up Crossover from Codeweavers ... does anyone have
> any feedback about this product?  I was hoping for free, but I'll spend the
> $20 if it's a worthwhile program and nothing else is available.

The problem with Quicktime is that most videos nowadays are encoded in the
Sorenson format. This format is patented and it would be difficult to legally
create a decoder for it.

Codeweavers' Crossover is an excellent product. It uses WINE to allow Quicktime,
Shockwave, and the MS viewers for Word, Excel and Powerpoint to work in x86
GNU/Linux. While the apps don't work quite as well as they do in Windows, they
are still perfectly usable. Codeweavers is a good company, and they have devoted
a lot of resources to WINE development. Your US$20 contributes to this
development, so in effect you are supporting open source.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

"Software evolves. It isn't designed. The only question is how strictly you
_control_ the evolution, and how open you are to external sources of mutations."
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[newbie] PCMCIA AGAIn

[troy psx da silva]

Thanks..
I install pcmcia-cs.. all ok..
and now? how i connect my modem?
thanks
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Re: [newbie] DelTree

[Hal Wigoda]

 rm -fr 

will remove the directory
and all the folders
and file s contained within
given the correct permissions

> 
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
> 
> =_1013458257-13086-40
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> How do I delete a directory that contains files and more directories. I want to 
>erase everything in the folder. Command Line please. < I hated the command line 
>but its like crack, very addictive. Its actually easier and much more efficient then 
>the gui. If your not using it I recommend learning as much as possible. 
> 
> 
> =_1013458257-13086-40
> Content-Type: text/plain; name="message.footer"
> Content-Disposition: inline; filename="message.footer"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> 
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[newbie] finding my ip

[Paul Rodríguez]

Is the ip address that shows up when I run ifconfig my real ip address?
I connect via adsl i get assigned dynamic ip's, but how do I find out
what my real ip address is right now?

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RE: [newbie] Mandrake 8.1 disk 2 & 3

[Myers, Dennis R NWO]

Title: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 8.1 disk 2 & 3





Take a look at this page, the CDs 2&3 should correspond to those in the retail packs so Second Install CD and Supplementary Open Source Apps CD are what you would get with download CDs. HTH

http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/81/applications


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Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 8.1 disk 2 & 3



Hi list, 
I just recently learned of there being a disk 2 & 3 to the MD8.1
'set'(from a reply in htis mailing list actually). Now before I download
this 1.36 Gig for the other disks, can someone inform me of what is on
them and its importance to me?


tia
Dave

[newbie] Mandrake 8.1 disk 2 & 3

[David]

Hi list, 
I just recently learned of there being a disk 2 & 3 to the MD8.1
'set'(from a reply in htis mailing list actually). Now before I download
this 1.36 Gig for the other disks, can someone inform me of what is on
them and its importance to me?

tia
Dave




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Re: [newbie] Re: Frontpage like application for Linux

[David Reynolds]

On Monday 11 February 2002 08:46 am, Chuck Henson wrote:
> At 02:29 AM 2/11/02 +0100, you wrote:
>  >Now Hanan, why on earth use a mediocre WYSIWYG-editor when it's so simple
> > to write real HTML ?
>
> As a web designer myself, I can only give one answer.
>
> There is no excuse for using a mediocre editor when there are some very
> good ones available. At least ones that can handle the more monotonous
> tasked involved in page layout. Then as long, as long as you do know how to
> hand code, you can shape things up as you see fit, and make things happen
> much more quickly in my opinion.
>
> I wouldn't throw Dreamweaver away if you paid me to. Of course, I can't get
> it to work with Linux so I'm forced to have a Windows/Linux partition
> battle. Anyhow, if I had to loose DW then I would probably still try to use
> NoteTab, UltraEdit, or HTML-kit to make things a little bit more automated.

Thank you! I used to use UltraEdit and was quite satisfied with the way it 
works. I agree that Quanta has equivalent or better functionality, though, 
plus it runs on Linux. If that's the SOLE reason you're keeping 
Windows,kill it!

> Cathal ap Donnchadh
> ...
> Tobar naomh, ruith a steach mise!
>  Teinne naomh, ls a steach mise!
>  Crann naomh, fas a steach mise!
> ...

My Gaelic's rusty. What does this translate as? Off-list is fine.

Regards,
David R
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[newbie] quicktime plugin for linux ?

[Kenn Yahoo]

Greetings.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a quicktime plugin for linux browsers?
A search on Google turned up Crossover from Codeweavers ... does anyone have
any feedback about this product?  I was hoping for free, but I'll spend the
$20 if it's a worthwhile program and nothing else is available.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Kenn




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Re: [newbie] writing/deleting files to a FAT32 partition

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:24:05 -0200, Rodrigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Richard, unfortunately I think that linux can't write/delete from a 
> FAT32 partition. That was possible in the old FAT partitions, but became 
> impossible with FAT32.

I think you're getting confused with NTFS. Linux handles FAT32 very well :)

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

"The nice thing about standards is that you
have so many to choose from."
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Re: [newbie] pdf maker

[Robin Turner]

On Tuesday 12 February 2002 10:50, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:21:29 +0700, christiyono 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is it any application in linux which  able to make/convert any
> > documents in pdf format?
>
> Most apps can print to a postscript file. Do this and run ps2pdf to
> make a PDF version of it.

Be careful about fonts though, or you may end up with a PDF file that 
looks fine viewed in, say, ghostview but is ugly (or even blank) in 
Acrobat/Windows (well, they've been doing it to us long enough ...).  
Any of the adobe font family should give you good clean results.

A good way to find out command-line tricks is using the tab key.  
Type the format you want to convert from, hit tab, and you'll get a 
list of likely converters; e.g., "ps -> tab" will get you ps2pdf, 
ps2ascii, ps2png andso on.  If you have the pstricks package 
installed, you can find some fun stuff here.

BTW, you can specify the compatibility level of the PDF file. If 
you're  sure your readers have Adobe Acrobat 4+ or the equivalent, 
you can use ps2pdf13, though I've never bothered with it.

Robin

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Robin Turner
IDMYO, Bilkent Universitesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey

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Re: [newbie] Permissions: Nobody in Apache + PHP

[Andre Dubuc]

Hi Kevin, 

Just wanted to thank you for your help. 

Figured out the problem -- it was partly permission problem (that you helped 
to solve). I tried a simpler script, testing to see whether I could simply 
write to a file. I could. It would even append. But back in the 
"graffiti.php" it still wouldn't recognize or pass the variable.

I looked at phpinfo() output and noticed that: 

register_globals=off  and register_argc_argv= off

No wonder it wasn't passing the variable. The php.ini told it not to. Changed 
both to "on",  and bingo - a working script!

Thanks again,
Andre



On Sunday 10 February 2002 01:42, you wrote:
> Andre,
>
> Yes, your problem is testing the script as root.  As a rule of thumb, never
> write scripts or test stuff as root.  The root user should only be used
> when you need to install something new, or perform system maintenance.
>
> Kevin
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andre Dubuc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Kevin Old" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 10:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Permissions: Nobody in Apache + PHP
>
> > Kevin,
> >
> > My tmp directory was set to drwxrwxr-t  -- I changed it, as well as the
> > graffiti.dat in /htdocs. The file in both /tmp and /htdocs was not
> > apache: apache but root:root. Is this where the problem lies? I'm testing
> > the
>
> script
>
> > while in root (Btw, I wrote it in root: I can't seem to get any script to
> > work as user).
> >
> > Where would I find "errors in my browser"?
> >
> > Thanks for your advice!
> >
> > Andre
> >
> > On Saturday 09 February 2002 23:00, you wrote:
> > > Andre,
> > >
> > > I copied the code and executed it and worked fine for me.
> > >
> > > Make sure your tmp directory is set like this
> > >
> > > drwxrwxrwt4 root root 1024 Feb  9 16:41 tmp/
> > >
> > > This is how the file was created
> > >
> > > -rw-r--r--1 apache   apache  0 Feb  9 16:38 graffiti.dat
> > >
> > > Are you getting any errors back in your browser from PHP?
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Andre Dubuc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Kevin Old" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 9:26 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Permissions: Nobody in Apache + PHP
> > >
> > > > Thanks Kevin,
> > > >
> > > > You're right it's a permission thing, but it doesn't make any
>
> difference
>
> > > sinc
> > >
> > > > I palced Grafiti.dat and graffiti.php in the same directory (htdocs).
>
> I
>
> > > also
> > >
> > > > tried it in /tmp, setting the permissions the same. No go. Since this
>
> is
>
> > > > a tutorial script, (PHP 101 - Part 5 from DevShed.com) I wonder if
> > > > there's a mistake in it: the variable $graffiti does not seem to be
> > > > defined except
> > >
> > > by
> > >
> > > > the name=graffiti function in the form section.
> > > >
> > > > My error log is a mess! Primary error: $graffiti not defined, and, 
> > > > no permission to grafiti.php. The script is simple and should work: I
> > >
> > > included
> > >
> > > > it below. If you would be so kind as to scan for errors (particularly
>
> for
>
> > > > $graffiti definition):
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >  > > > // set the file name
> > > > $filename = "/tmp/graffiti.dat";
> > > >
> > > > // open the file
> > > > $handle = fopen ($filename, "a+");
> > > >
> > > > // write the string to the file handle
> > > > fputs ($handle, $graffiti);
> > > >
> > > > // close the file
> > > > fclose ($handle);
> > > > ?>
> > > >
> > > >  [I changed graffiti.php4 to
> > > > php] 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >  > > > // Display current contents of file if available
> > > > if (file_exists ($filename))
> > > >  {
> > > >  echo "Current graffiti reads: ";
> > > >  readfile ($filename);
> > > >  }
> > > > else
> > > >  {
> > > >  echo "File not found!";
> > > >  }
> > > >
> > > > ?>
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > Somehow, I think there's a boo-boo in here (but then again, I'm a
>
> newbie!
>
> > > :>)
> > > >
> > > > Tia, (and thanks for your help!)
> > > > Andre
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday 09 February 2002 20:47, you wrote:
> > > > > Andre,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, it has to be a permissions issue.  Here's one thing that has
> > > > > gotten
> > >
> > > me
> > >
> > > > > in the past.  Make sure that the directory (and ones above it) for
> > > > > grafitti.dat have the same permissions and are owned and grouped
> > > > > exactly
> > >
> > > as
> > >
> > > > > grafitti.dat is.  Try that and let me know what happens.  Also,
>
> check
>
> > > your
> > >
> > > > > Apache error_log for error messages and they might help you
> > > > > pinpoint the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for your original question, nobody is just an ordinary user like
>
> any
>
> > > > > other.  The only thing is that the nobody account is disabled so
>
> that
>
> > > > > nobody can log in in the normal way.  The purpose of having such an
> > > > > account

Re: Fw: [newbie] making a file from a man doc

[Randy Kramer]

Walter Logeman wrote:
> >  In
> > other words, I'd like to convert the text output from what
> > comes out of col -b  into something that would have each
> > "paragraph" on a single long line so I can easily copy and
> > paste it into a wiki.
> 
> To piggy back on this... I used an editor in Windows called
> Textpad which allowed me to easily remove all the par endings.
> or reformat to a new line length.  The editors i have tried Kate
> and Kwrite do not seem to have this option ... is there one
> around?  I know... emacs - but I am not in the space to learn a
> new system... so far there are only two programs I miss from
> Windows - Textpad and Forte Agent - I am sure there are better
> ones here anyway, just have not found them.

Walter (or anyone),

I'm not familiar with Textpad so I'm curious about how it does that --
in Word I use search and replace to get rid of paragraph endings --
depending on what's in the document.  In other words, I look at it with
the view hidden text option on, and then I may do things like:

(a sequence):
   * replace all ^p^p (two paragraph marks in a row) with %% (some odd
symbols not used in the document)
   * replace all ^p (a single paragraph mark) with " "
   * replace all %% with ^p

I wrote the above from memory -- I might have found some better ways,
but can't recall at this time -- there usually is some manual cleanup to
do.

or, under other circumstances, 
   * replace "" (4 spaces) with " "

Again, at times I'll go further, like then replacing "." with ".  " (or
something like that) -- again, there is manual clean up to do.

The best editor I've found so far in Linux (IMHO) is nedit which
includes search and replace using regular expressions, macros, and
(incidentally), some ways to vary the wrapping of a line (I've only used
what they call "continuous wrap" (I call it soft wrap) -- it wraps the
text to the width of the screen while in nedit, not permanently -- in
other words it does not insert any "paragraph marks".

Usually I still do the changes described above in Word, but nedit is
certainly capable of them.  Does Textpad have some better magic?  Can
you describe it or point to a link?

Thanks,
Randy Kramer

PS: Nedit is included in Mandrake, 7.2 and 8.1, but was not installed by
default on my last 8.1 install.  IIRC, on a previous install I did find
it on the disks and manually installed it after the install. 
Unfortunately, nedit looks a little klunky because it is based on
lesstif and the lesstif widget set -- not as "spiffy" as a typical kde
application.  Some things are a little tricky -- it took a little
learning on my part to be able to repeat a search and replace -- I had
to learn to click the Keep Dialog checkbox before doing the first search
-- otherwise, IIRC, it disappears and clears the search and replace
strings.  Also, the idiom of search and replace was a little strange to
me (different than what I'm used to) -- after you find and replace the
first instance, it doesn't automatically find the next instance -- you
have to click find again.

Now I'm wondering why I consider this my favorite editor in Linux (and I
haven't checked them all).  It shows black text on a white background by
default.  (Things like Cool Edit, IIRC, had some hard to read color
combinations by default.)  It has the soft wrap feature (few other
editors had that).  It has macros (few other editors had that).  It has
regular expression search and replace (I think several other editors had
that).

My search was a fairly quick comparison of the editors installed by
default on Mandrake 7.2 -- these included kedit, kwrite, the k binary
editor, cooledit, gedit, xedit, yudit.  I ignored vim and emacs (I
learned the important part of vim in an earlier experience (:q), and the
important part of emacs (don't start it) ;-) -- I also ignored the
"command line" editors like joe, jstar, pico -- I do use joe and jstar
at the command line. (I may have sold pico short, but I heard it
described as a simple editor -- I was looking for a full featured
editor.)



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Re: [newbie] Disk partitioning problem.

[Gerald Waugh]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Seedkum Aladeem wrote:
> >%_Hi,
> 
> I checked it right now with the win2k Disk Management tool and it says
> FAT32. I know that Harddrake also says FAT32.
> 

Sometimes you have to completely reinitialize a disk, I use IIRC

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdx

where x is the harddrive, sometimes /dev/hdd or /dev/hde
Just make sure it is the right one, been-there and done-that too
It takes some time, but thil will completely remove any bad configurations from
a disk

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Re: [newbie] finding my ip

[Gerald Waugh]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Paul Rodríguez wrote:
> >%_
> 
> Is the ip address that shows up when I run ifconfig my real ip address?
> I connect via adsl i get assigned dynamic ip's, but how do I find out
> what my real ip address is right now?
> 
> - Paul

ifconfig should reveal your 'real' address, when you are connected to your ISP

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Re: [newbie] proftpd question

[Gerald Waugh]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Eric Estes -=RCN Mail=- wrote:
> >%_I have set up proftpd to allow a user by the name anonymous to login and
> download files. They seem to be able to browse my other directories and
> download from them.
> 
> Is there a way to make the user "anonymous" only able to view their "home"
> directory and download from that alone?

DefaultRoot /ftp/ftp.foo1.com

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Re: [newbie] writing/deleting files to a FAT32 partition

[Rodrigo]

Richard, unfortunately I think that linux can't write/delete from a 
FAT32 partition. That was possible in the old FAT partitions, but became 
impossible with FAT32. Maybe you can find a program that makes it for 
you. For example, there is a program for windows that reads ext2 
partitions and has experimental support for writting ext2 partitions. It 
is called explore2fs and you could try it in order to see if it can 
really write to an ext2 partition and then change your data partition to 
this format, this is an idea. Also you can look for a linux program that 
does the opposite, writting to a FAT32 partition. Well, I hope my 
suggestions can help you, good luck !

Rodrigo

Barran, Richard wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>My home PC is set up with 3 partitions:
>
>- a FAT32 partition for Win98.
>- another FAT32 partition for data.
>- an ext2 partition for Mandrake 8.1 (straight out of the box, nothing
>special about it).
>
>My idea was that I'd use the data partition to store MP3s and so on, and
>that I could read from both Windows and Linux. So I download some MP3s
>within Windows and store them on the Data partition.
>
>Then... I tried to delete some of the files from within Linux, and I
>couldn't.
>I checked the file/folder properties and went 'aha': the owner of files on
>the FAT32 drive is 'root' and only 'root' has write permissions, although
>anyone can read/execute those files... ok, so I go to a command line, log in
>as root, and type 'chmod 777 '... nothing. The command seems to
>execute successfully (well, when I use the -v (verbose) switch it reports
>success), but a 'ls -l' straight after the chmod shows no changes to the
>file attributes.
>I tried this on both files and folders on the FAT32 partition, with no
>success in either case. Ok, I think, you can't set file/folder rights and
>permissions in FAT32, because it doesn't support the concept.
>
>So I give up... can anyone point out the simple thing I seem to be missing
>and that will allow me to manipulate files on a FAT32 partition from Linux?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Richard
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Re: [newbie] DelTree

[Alaa The Great]

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:29:19 -0500
John Alex Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> rm -rf "top-level derectory going to be deleted"
> 
> This could be very dangerously if carelessly.

you could also use mc for all your file management needs
mc is a console file manager that resembles the old DOS Norton Commander

it has lots of cool feature like browsing rpms and tar files and viewing
pdfs, man pages, htmls as formated text.

you can delete whole directories from mc very easily.

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Re: [newbie] Installing StarOffice 5.2

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:15:40 +0200, Robin Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2002 07:15, christiyono wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > How to install Star office 5.2 in Mandrake 8.0 that every user can
> > load and use it without installing in each user home directory? Is
> > it true that every user must install it personally?
> 
> Unfortunately, yes.  You could probably write a shell script to 
> automate the process, though, or install for one user and copy the 
> fiiles to other users' home directories.
> 
> BTW, I wouldn't recommend installing 5.2 - wait for 6.0 or use the 
> latest Open Office build.

If you run the StarOffice setup with the /net flag, you'll only have to install
a couple of megs worth of data into each user's home directory (i.e. not the
whole suite).

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dirty buffer balancing will throttle anybody, not just the writer."
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Re: [newbie] Disk partitioning problem.

[Seedkum Aladeem]

Hi,

I checked it right now with the win2k Disk Management tool and it says
FAT32. I know that Harddrake also says FAT32.


Thanks,

Seedkum

"Jeroen v.d. Westelaken" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 1,9 Gb is the legendary maximum amount of an older FAT type partion. Are you
> sure you used the right format?
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Jeroen v.d. Westelaken
> EXEcute-IT
> 
> Internet: http://www.execute-it.nl
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Seedkum Aladeem
> Verzonden: dinsdag 12 februari 2002 8:08
> Aan: Newbie at MDK
> Onderwerp: [newbie] Disk partitioning problem.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Harddrake says that a drive is taking the full space of a partition but
> the visible size is about half the size of the partition. The other half
> is not visible and I cannot reach it. The following is a description of
> what I did and what I observed. Hopefully someone can tell me what is
> going on and how to fix it.
> 
> I had an NT4 NTFS partition (~1.9 Gig) and a FAT32 partition (~1.9 Gig).
> I used Harddrake to delete both of them and create a single FAT32
> partition out of them (~3.8 Gig). When I looked at the properties of the
> directory mount point using Konqueror (with the new partition mounted) I
> saw a size of only ~1.9 Gig! Rebooting did not remove the discrepancy
> between Harddrake and Konqueror. Harddrake showed no empty (unused)
> partition.
> 
> I went and installed win2k on this new FAT32 partition. Win2k did the
> same thing. Explorer said the drive was ~1.9 Gig but the Disk Management
> tool said it was ~3.8 Gig. The disk management tool showed no empty
> (unused) partition, like Harddrake.
> 
> I hope somebody can make sense out of this.
> 
> Seedkum
> 
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Re: [newbie] Installing StarOffice 5.2

[Robin Turner]

On Wednesday 13 February 2002 07:15, christiyono wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> How to install Star office 5.2 in Mandrake 8.0 that every user can
> load and use it without installing in each user home directory? Is
> it true that every user must install it personally?

Unfortunately, yes.  You could probably write a shell script to 
automate the process, though, or install for one user and copy the 
fiiles to other users' home directories.

BTW, I wouldn't recommend installing 5.2 - wait for 6.0 or use the 
latest Open Office build.

Robin


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[newbie] pdf maker

[christiyono]

Hi...

Is it any application in linux which  able to make/convert any documents in 
pdf format?

thank u for your info...


chris



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