Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Saturday 16 August 2003 08:23 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: > On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 08:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > > If yes, I think my only option is to somehow get my hands on > > an old, used Windows PC just to run this app. Under no > > circumstances will I tolerate Windows on my *real* computers > > in our home. > > > > I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but > > *Derive* won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. > > Possibly I can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue > > whatsoever about installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off > > a CD , so I guess it's a dead end too ? > > > > Thanks again, all. > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > IF you are dead set on getting a copy of Windows onto that > laptop I know of one easy way to do it. > > I also can ftp you a copy of w98 if you wish. > > Copy from the W98 Dir (Using ftp if you must) to the laptop > the Windows Setup directory onto the laptops hard drive. > > Boot with boot diskette to an DOS prompt. Enter the dir you > copied your setup files to, run setup.exe. Done. > > Win98 is stupid enough to install from HDD. Win2k is too... > Dunno about XP but your hardware is old enough i suspect that > isn't an issue. Thanks a lot, Femme. I already managed to get my hands on a CD with Win98 SE (hence the late reply). It's an OEM edition but i will give it a try. Now, my problem is to create a boot-floppy. If I understand you correctly, there is a setup directory on the CD, so I'll follow your advice once I have a boot floppy. Maybe I'm a little naïve : I've been browsing around this OEM CD to find a Windows equivalent of Linux's rawrite and a boot image, but with no luck. As someone suggested I'll try to pull one off the net. I guess, that getting win98 onto this old Thinkpad is my best option for my daughter. That way her *main* PC can stay *clean*. Thanks again Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 14:50:31 + Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > If yes, I think my only option is to somehow get my hands on an > old, used Windows PC just to run this app. Under no > circumstances will I tolerate Windows on my *real* computers in > our home. I *was* able to install the app under Winex3, but I get wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger... when I try to run it. I would check the Transgaming site. I know it's mainly for games, but they claim to support other apps as well, like Photoshop and such, so you might get some help there. I was really hopeful it would work, sorry. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Saturday 16 August 2003 01:17 pm, Paul wrote: > On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but > > *Derive* won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. > > Possibly I can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue > > whatsoever about installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off > > a CD , so I guess it's a dead end too ? > > You might know someone who has W98 running. Create a > bootdiskette there, get the CDROM-driver for the Thinkpad from > somewhere on the diskette, don't forget mscdex, format, > himem.sys, fdisk and sys.com. Stick the cdromdriver in > /config.sys. That should get you going, I think. Paul > (who had a lot to do with M$ in the older days... Damn, I am > getting OLD!) Well, thanks Paul. I'll try this road even if I know next to nothing about Windows. Never thought I needed it. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:17, Paul wrote: > On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but *Derive* > > won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. Possibly I > > can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue whatsoever about > > installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off a CD , so I guess > > it's a dead end too ? > > You might know someone who has W98 running. Create a bootdiskette there, > get the CDROM-driver for the Thinkpad from somewhere on the diskette, > don't forget mscdex, format, himem.sys, fdisk and sys.com. Stick the > cdromdriver in /config.sys. That should get you going, I think. > Paul > (who had a lot to do with M$ in the older days... Damn, I am getting > OLD!) Try http://www.bootdisk.com as the name says, bootdisks Paul M Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but *Derive* > won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. Possibly I > can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue whatsoever about > installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off a CD , so I guess > it's a dead end too ? You might know someone who has W98 running. Create a bootdiskette there, get the CDROM-driver for the Thinkpad from somewhere on the diskette, don't forget mscdex, format, himem.sys, fdisk and sys.com. Stick the cdromdriver in /config.sys. That should get you going, I think. Paul (who had a lot to do with M$ in the older days... Damn, I am getting OLD!) -- Don't worry. If it breaks, you get to keep the pieces. http://www.nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Ximian Evolution Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Saturday 16 August 2003 11:09 am, Poogle wrote: > > you got me curious so I d/l the trial version of Derive, with > crossover office 1.3.5 it crashes with an error message about > VBOX, so no go there, but with Win4Lin (with Win98) it > installs properly and will open and close the included files. > As to whether it will "work" I can't comment as it's about 30 > years since I studied maths/statistics so I can't remember > enough about the subject (hangs head in shame) to try to work > with it. OK Poogle, Frankie and all who helped me on this one : The fact is that I don't have a copy of that other OS, in any flavor whatsoever. So I tried to run *Derive* from Wine and from Crossover - with no success. Win4Lin may be OK, but as far as I understand it requires a copy of another OS - right ? If yes, I think my only option is to somehow get my hands on an old, used Windows PC just to run this app. Under no circumstances will I tolerate Windows on my *real* computers in our home. I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but *Derive* won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. Possibly I can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue whatsoever about installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off a CD , so I guess it's a dead end too ? Thanks again, all. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
> On Friday 15 August 2003 17:37, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this > > great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had > > Windows on my box - and never will. > > > > But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started > > in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program > > called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and > > I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app > > only - no Unix/Linux version. > > > > Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when > > they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis > > with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too > > enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running > > Windows applications through an emulator. > > > > So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program. > > This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine > > setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a > > *folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders* > > like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so > > I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of > > course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders* > > on my system, no matter what I type. > > > > The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm > > confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very > > trivial - hiccup. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Kaj Haulrich. you got me curious so I d/l the trial version of Derive, with crossover office 1.3.5 it crashes with an error message about VBOX, so no go there, but with Win4Lin (with Win98) it installs properly and will open and close the included files. As to whether it will "work" I can't comment as it's about 30 years since I studied maths/statistics so I can't remember enough about the subject (hangs head in shame) to try to work with it. HTH -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Friday 15 August 2003 17:29, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Hmm... I think I'll give up. Maybe I can buy an old Windows-box > for my daughter just to run that app, because the info says > it'll run on everything (winders, that is) from 9.x to XP > (whatever that is). Have you considered VMWare or Win4Lin? Powered by SuSE Linux 8.2 Professional KDE 3.1.1 KMail 1.5.1 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:59 pm, Harv Nelson wrote: > RE Texas Insturments: They used to put out stuff that even > ran on a Commodore 64 ... but that was a while back. I'm > wondering if your "Derive" program is just an old script that > might be run with dosemu? No, I've tried that, of course. It seems to be *graphical*. > Where I live, the Great State of Wisconsin, on America's > North Coast (Lake Superior/Lake Michigan), the University of > Wisconsin has recently terminated all of it's site licensing > agreements with Microsoft > > http://www.doit.wisc.edu/news/story.asp?filename=127 > > much as the City of Munich in Germany did recently.This > will force students who have not already purchased > software/licenses at lowered rates, to seek cheaper (Open > Source) alternatives. Well, the Munich deal was a breakthrough here in Europe insofar public administration is concerned. But scientists, students and other nice people have been using Linux for years. Not because it is cheaper, but because it's open. > I read somplace (I think "the Register") that Bill Gates had > recently dumped 26 million in M$ stock holdings ... and his > cheif lacky, Steve Balmer had dumped stock valued at 1.45 > BILLION! Perhaps that is the best "hand-writting-on-the-wall" > yet. Would you buy a share ??? > RE Texas: Here in the US, we are waiting patiently for the > Congress to pass legislation admitting that the South actually > did win the Civil War of 1865. This will allow those southern > states (Texas among them) to secede from the Union with grace > ... and those states in the north, that are so inclined, can > seek a union with Canada. Our interests here, more nearly > match those of the Canadians rather than the interests of the > Texas/Washington DC/Wall Street/Redmond axis. > > Let the flame war begin :-) > > Best regards, and good luck for the girls > > Harv / AI9NL > Washburn, Wisconsin Same here in Europe, Harv. The Pope is far away from Scandinavia. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 15 August 2003 17:37, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this > great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had > Windows on my box - and never will. > > But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started > in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program > called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and > I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app > only - no Unix/Linux version. > > Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when > they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis > with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too > enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running > Windows applications through an emulator. > > So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program. > This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine > setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a > *folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders* > like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so > I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of > course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders* > on my system, no matter what I type. > > The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm > confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very > trivial - hiccup. > > Thanks in advance > > Kaj Haulrich. Perhaps you could try this other Wine http://www.codeweavers.com/technology/wine/ But you have to uninstall the one you have before installing it. It has a GUI for setting things up. Good luck. Josenildo Marques -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/PXbP4eVBtrgQWDsRAvEbAJ43KKAftzz+ClnZP0HJ1uphs/GZpACfWl8d 0TJi5JTCjM3wz4FhKEuGdaM= =DBrZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
Well mathplot is on mandrake http://sourceforge.net/search/ with the word math broaught up loads of things Try matching something simialar And then get your daugter to get her uni to switch lol Mike Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 11:47 pm, Michael Lothian wrote: Ah my uni uses Maple and Matlab for maths stuff But why not see if some of the free maths programs on linux are the same type and have the same functions. Mike Mike - what free programs ??? Kaj Haulrich. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 09:40 pm, Harv Nelson wrote: Hi Kaj, I'm having something of the same sorts of problems with a program I'm trying to run with wine. Try this "WinTools" GUI set up aid: http://www.franksworld.net/winetools/ It will make all the necessary directories and has an "Installer" of sorts. There is some additional education on the site. Be aware that "wine" is a work in progress. There are new RPM's built nearly every day. Check WineHQ http://www.winehq.com/. You might want to try WineX, also http://digilander.libero.it/winehqitalia/winex.html GL Harv / AI9NL Thanks Harv, - I'll give it a try, but wine is quite OK on my system, so I guess it is this application from Texas that's misbehaving. When I accept the default (c:\programs) it just refuses the whole idea : can't locate *folders*. Which arises another rant : This application (Derive) is meant for math students and developed by Texas Instruments. I don't know much about Texas, but where I live universities use Unix/Linux. I have great respect for Texas Instruments and their fine calculators and thusly can't believe they are Microsoft-Only. My geography might be wrong, though : Redmond is the capitol of Texas ? Kaj Haulrich. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com If you installed wine under your user name, it should have created a directory named ".wine" (don't miss the dot ... /home/user/.wine ). In that directory there should be another directory called "fakewindows" or, if you use the WineTools setup, the directory will be called simply "C" (an acknowledgement of what Windows likes to call your linux hda, "C:\" ... /home/user/.wine/C ). "C" will contain a bunch of directories that pretty much mirrors the look of a normal Windows hard drive. You can set up KDE so that the files with an ".exe" extension will be passed to wine automaticlly (if WineTools didn't do it for you) RE Texas Insturments: They used to put out stuff that even ran on a Commodore 64 ... but that was a while back. I'm wondering if your "Derive" program is just an old script that might be run with dosemu? Where I live, the Great State of Wisconsin, on America's North Coast (Lake Superior/Lake Michigan), the University of Wisconsin has recently terminated all of it's site licensing agreements with Microsoft http://www.doit.wisc.edu/news/story.asp?filename=127 much as the City of Munich in Germany did recently.This will force students who have not already purchased software/licenses at lowered rates, to seek cheaper (Open Source) alternatives. I read somplace (I think "the Register") that Bill Gates had recently dumped 26 million in M$ stock holdings ... and his cheif lacky, Steve Balmer had dumped stock valued at 1.45 BILLION! Perhaps that is the best "hand-writting-on-the-wall" yet. RE Texas: Here in the US, we are waiting patiently for the Congress to pass legislation admitting that the South actually did win the Civil War of 1865. This will allow those southern states (Texas among them) to secede from the Union with grace ... and those states in the north, that are so inclined, can seek a union with Canada. Our interests here, more nearly match those of the Canadians rather than the interests of the Texas/Washington DC/Wall Street/Redmond axis. Let the flame war begin :-) Best regards, and good luck for the girls Harv / AI9NL Washburn, Wisconsin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:47 pm, Michael Lothian wrote: > Ah my uni uses Maple and Matlab for maths stuff > > But why not see if some of the free maths programs on linux > are the same type and have the same functions. > > Mike > Mike - what free programs ??? Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
Ah my uni uses Maple and Matlab for maths stuff But why not see if some of the free maths programs on linux are the same type and have the same functions. Mike Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 15 August 2003 09:40 pm, Harv Nelson wrote: Hi Kaj, I'm having something of the same sorts of problems with a program I'm trying to run with wine. Try this "WinTools" GUI set up aid: http://www.franksworld.net/winetools/ It will make all the necessary directories and has an "Installer" of sorts. There is some additional education on the site. Be aware that "wine" is a work in progress. There are new RPM's built nearly every day. Check WineHQ http://www.winehq.com/. You might want to try WineX, also http://digilander.libero.it/winehqitalia/winex.html GL Harv / AI9NL Thanks Harv, - I'll give it a try, but wine is quite OK on my system, so I guess it is this application from Texas that's misbehaving. When I accept the default (c:\programs) it just refuses the whole idea : can't locate *folders*. Which arises another rant : This application (Derive) is meant for math students and developed by Texas Instruments. I don't know much about Texas, but where I live universities use Unix/Linux. I have great respect for Texas Instruments and their fine calculators and thusly can't believe they are Microsoft-Only. My geography might be wrong, though : Redmond is the capitol of Texas ? Kaj Haulrich. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Friday 15 August 2003 07:48 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Friday 15 August 2003 04:37 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* > > program. This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I > > typed *wine setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask > > me for a *folder* for installation. The screen suggest > > strange *folders* like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't > > have such *folders*, so I typed : /usr/share/derive (having > > created that *folder* of course. But the program doesn't > > seem able to find any *folders* on my system, no matter what > > I type. > > > > The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm > > confident some of you can help me out on this - probably > > very trivial - hiccup. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > When I install games under WineX (game specific version of > Wine from Transgaming) and it asks for where, I just accept > the defaults (ok) and it installs it in its correct places. In > WineXs' case, thats: > > .transgaming/c_drive/Program Files/ > > You might try that just accepting whatever defaults it offers. > > There is also vmware... Thanks Ronald, but isn't vmware a different beast ? As far as I know (almost zero) vmware is not an emulator, but requires a full and licensed copy of this other *operating system* to run on Linux ??? Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
Hi Kaj, I'm having something of the same sorts of problems with a program I'm trying to run with wine. Try this "WinTools" GUI set up aid: http://www.franksworld.net/winetools/ It will make all the necessary directories and has an "Installer" of sorts. There is some additional education on the site. Be aware that "wine" is a work in progress. There are new RPM's built nearly every day. Check WineHQ http://www.winehq.com/. You might want to try WineX, also http://digilander.libero.it/winehqitalia/winex.html GL Harv / AI9NL Kaj Haulrich wrote: Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had Windows on my box - and never will. But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app only - no Unix/Linux version. Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running Windows applications through an emulator. So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program. This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a *folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders* like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders* on my system, no matter what I type. The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very trivial - hiccup. Thanks in advance Kaj Haulrich. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Friday 15 August 2003 04:37 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program. > This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine > setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a > *folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders* > like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so > I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of > course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders* > on my system, no matter what I type. > > The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm > confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very > trivial - hiccup. > > Thanks in advance > > Kaj Haulrich. When I install games under WineX (game specific version of Wine from Transgaming) and it asks for where, I just accept the defaults (ok) and it installs it in its correct places. In WineXs' case, thats: .transgaming/c_drive/Program Files/ You might try that just accepting whatever defaults it offers. There is also vmware... -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine question
On Friday 15 August 2003 06:52 pm, Frankie wrote: > When you install wine, it creates a fake enviroment for > windows apps. usually in /var/lib/wine > eg: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] www]# cd /var/lib/wine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wine]# ls > autoexec.bat config.sys My Documents/ Program Files/ > windows/ > > as you can see, you have all the typical directories a windows > program could possibly look for. > > So in the path, just use the c:\program files\someappname > > and wine will see to it that it gets put in the right place. > > Wine bascially fools those apps into thinking that c:\x > actuall exists when really its putting the stuff in > /var/lib/wine/program files/somedir > > > make sense? > Thanks, Frankie. I see those dir's in my tree. No succes though to install the #¤%&£$ program *derive*. Then I tried to install the Crossover suite. It brought me a little further and actually installed the app. However, when trying to run it, it exits with the very informative message : *unknown error*. Hmm... I think I'll give up. Maybe I can buy an old Windows-box for my daughter just to run that app, because the info says it'll run on everything (winders, that is) from 9.x to XP (whatever that is). Thanks Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Wine question
When you install wine, it creates a fake enviroment for windows apps. usually in /var/lib/wine eg: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www]# cd /var/lib/wine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wine]# ls autoexec.bat config.sys My Documents/ Program Files/ windows/ as you can see, you have all the typical directories a windows program could possibly look for. So in the path, just use the c:\program files\someappname and wine will see to it that it gets put in the right place. Wine bascially fools those apps into thinking that c:\x actuall exists when really its putting the stuff in /var/lib/wine/program files/somedir make sense? now go forth and konquer. :-) regards Franki htmlfixit.com >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaj Haulrich >Sent: Saturday, 16 August 2003 4:37 AM >To: Newbie >Subject: [newbie] Wine question > > >Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this >great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had >Windows on my box - and never will. > >But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started >in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program >called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and >I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app >only - no Unix/Linux version. > >Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when >they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis >with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too >enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running >Windows applications through an emulator. > >So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program. >This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine >setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a >*folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders* >like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so >I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of >course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders* >on my system, no matter what I type. > >The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm >confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very >trivial - hiccup. > >Thanks in advance > >Kaj Haulrich. >-- >Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org >Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk >Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Wine question
Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had Windows on my box - and never will. But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app only - no Unix/Linux version. Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running Windows applications through an emulator. So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program. This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a *folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders* like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders* on my system, no matter what I type. The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very trivial - hiccup. Thanks in advance Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk Sent to you from a 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Wine Question
If its a self executing extractable, you could try opening it with winzip first.. most often self extractors for windows can be opened with winzip. then extract the setup files and try installin it. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Trevor Rhodes Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 7:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Wine Question On Thursday 17 January 2002 02:40, you wrote: > Which version of Wine are you running? > > I just installed the CodeWeavers installation and it works great. I've got that version installed and have downloaded a program I wish to install. It's a self installing exe. How do I accomplish the install. Is it just wine filename.exe or is there something I'm missing. I ask, because I tried this and it failed with multiple, multiple, multiple errors. Trevor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine Question
On Thursday 17 January 2002 02:40, you wrote: > Which version of Wine are you running? > > I just installed the CodeWeavers installation and it works great. I've got that version installed and have downloaded a program I wish to install. It's a self installing exe. How do I accomplish the install. Is it just wine filename.exe or is there something I'm missing. I ask, because I tried this and it failed with multiple, multiple, multiple errors. Trevor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine Question
On Wednesday 16 January 2002 08:20 am, Rich wrote: > I'm running Mandrake 8.1 and, when I run a Windows application under > wine there's a warning message that it couldn't find xmessage and the > program may not run well (and they don't!). > > Where would I find xmessage? > > Rich X11R6-contrib rpm provides xmessage. I've got X11R6-contrib-3.3.6-18mdk and codeweavers-wine-20011108-5 -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas, USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine Question
On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 10:40, Joe Wittmer wrote: > Hi Rich, > > Which version of Wine are you running? > > I just installed the CodeWeavers installation and it works great. But, you > do have to install the xmessage package. There is more on the web at: > > http://www.codeweavers.com/technology/wine/help.php > > Read Item #6. I'm also running the codeweavers version and I'll check out the site - thanks! > >I'm running Mandrake 8.1 and, when I run a Windows application under > >wine there's a warning message that it couldn't find xmessage and the > >program may not run well (and they don't!). > > > >Where would I find xmessage? > > > >Rich > >-- > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_g3CHU6fITcm8JCX6aO/m4A) > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine Question
Hi Rich, Which version of Wine are you running? I just installed the CodeWeavers installation and it works great. But, you do have to install the xmessage package. There is more on the web at: http://www.codeweavers.com/technology/wine/help.php Read Item #6. GL Joe >I'm running Mandrake 8.1 and, when I run a Windows application under >wine there's a warning message that it couldn't find xmessage and the >program may not run well (and they don't!). > >Where would I find xmessage? > >Rich >-- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Wine Question
I'm running Mandrake 8.1 and, when I run a Windows application under wine there's a warning message that it couldn't find xmessage and the program may not run well (and they don't!). Where would I find xmessage? Rich -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] WINE Question
On Wednesday 08 November 2000 05:20 pm, Joe Morris wrote: > Okay, I just completed my wine.conf file and ran Adobe Acrobat > with it. I then decided to open up Astroship Evader. I typed in > the following: > > wine /mnt/win_c/Astroship Evader/Astroship Evader.exe What little I've used wine, it seems to work better if you cd to the apps location, then run the program. I suspect this has to do with DOS's lack of *nix compatible file permissions. > I then got the following: > cannot find file "/mnt/win_c/Astroship" To cd into a dir that has in the dir name use a '\'. EG, cd /mnt/win_c/Astroship\EvaderThen to run the program you'd typewine Astroship\Evader(the .exe isn't neccesary and it's better not to use it. The backsplash as used above acts as an escape char to replace the ) -- Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] WINE Question
> I then decided to open up Astroship Evader. I typed in the following: > > wine /mnt/win_c/Astroship Evader/Astroship Evader.exe > > I then got the following: > > cannot find file "/mnt/win_c/Astroship" > > Obviously, it does like the spaces in the file names. Tell me, how do I > overcome this problem? could you please tell me how to retype the above > command to launch it? Thanks! Joe > Hi Joe, I'm not too sure but have you tried enclosing the astoship evader.exe bit in quotation marks? try both single and double. I believe the single option is the most likely to work. Cheers Stu Foster
[newbie] WINE Question
Okay, I just completed my wine.conf file and ran Adobe Acrobat with it. I then decided to open up Astroship Evader. I typed in the following: wine /mnt/win_c/Astroship Evader/Astroship Evader.exe I then got the following: cannot find file "/mnt/win_c/Astroship" Obviously, it does like the spaces in the file names. Tell me, how do I overcome this problem? could you please tell me how to retype the above command to launch it? Thanks! Joe