Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia Secure Email Server

[Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa]

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Hanxue Lee  wrote:
> "Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
> communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
> one-stop web portal for government services."

> To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop
> solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to
> Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ?

If we look here - http://myemail.my/what-is-myemail.aspx, it targeted
more like an email service, just like what gmail or hotmail provided.
This is where the problem lies I think. Assuming it being used as real
email, if someone in gov agency want to email some official document
to myn...@myemail.my which they assume a secure channel, that email
surely would travel over public internet and without any encryption
being applied to that email, how can it be deemed as secure ? Unless
there's guarantee that any email sent from any gov agency only travel
over a secure government network but I doubt such a thing exists. So
this email service just giving people false sense of security - it's
from government so it must be secure.

The singapore ecitizen I guess more like a web application such as
eFiling where everything stay within that secure server (hopefully)
and transmission only between us the users and the application through
ssl.

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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia Secure Email Server

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

the whole thing is stupid oppsss... sorry, since we are on a public
mailing list, let me rephrase that "a decision that could have been better
made if a more informed and open consultative process with the industry had
been made"




On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Hanxue Lee  wrote:

> Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
> (email) which is already well established in the private sector.
>
> The article did say
>
> "Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
> communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
> one-stop web portal for government services."
>
> To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop
> solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to
> Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Hanxue
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness wrote:
>
>> phew...50m
>>
>> even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they
>> trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way
>> to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector
>> (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server
>> inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist.
>>
>> maybe someone should poke "him".
>>
>> if i got that job,50m.i will _.:D
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>> > hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/
>> >
>> > the above article "Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the
>> > 1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the
>> > information technology firm which is at risk of being delisted..."
>> >
>> > The 1 Malaysia Mail Server is meant to provide secure email services
>> > to Malaysians for their dealings with the government, and to counter
>> > the fact that a lot of the free email accounts are hosted on servers
>> > outside of Malaysia, and hence expose the data
>> >
>> > 50M to 'develop' a 'secure' email server for Malaysians to use??
>> >
>> > And they are going to use MS technology to do it ??!
>> >
>> > 
>> > The Malaysia Insider understands that the 1 Malaysia email service
>> > will be using software from Microsoft, the company that now owns the
>> > free Hotmail account service that has been eclipsed by another free
>> > email provider, Google Inc.
>> > 
>> >
>> > 
>> > The 1 Malaysia email service is part of Najib’s Economic
>> > Transformation Programme (ETP) to achieve developed nation status by
>> > 2020. He said today the RM50 million investment will have a gross
>> > national income (GNI) impact of RM39 million up to 2015 and will
>> > enhance delivery of public services.
>> > 
>> >
>> > Well, well, well. something funny is going on.
>> > There are perfectly good FLOSS email software, crypto tools etc... and
>> > we (among OSDC) certainly have the manpower & skills to implement and
>> > deploy such solutions.
>> >
>> > Even if a 'bunch of FLOSS' developers cannot do so immediately, giving
>> > funding to the community will allow them to build the skills and
>> > knowledge within 1 year, to do so; and have that knowledge shared and
>> > benefiting a larger community rather than 1 single company!
>> >
>> > And can we do this with 1m, no problem! Even if you spend another 1-5m
>> > for HW ( 1m will buy about  160 or 4 racks full of 1u servers, which
>> > is enough to build a decent cloud...), and even if we DOUBLE all those
>> > numbers, that figure won't go anywhere near 50m!
>> >
>> > A quick look at their website,  shows they
>> > are using IIS-6.0, not exactly a very secure option. A quick google
>> > found this bit:
>> >
>> >
>> http://cyberinsecure.com/microsoft-iis6-vulnerability-exposes-websites-sensitive-files-and-passwords/
>> >
>> > 
>> > Microsoft IIS6 Vulnerability Exposes Website’s Sensitive Files And
>> Passwords
>> >
>> > Security experts are urging administrators using Microsoft’s Internet
>> > Information Services version 6 to exercise extreme care following the
>> > discovery that the popular web server is vulnerable to a simple attack
>> > that exposes password-protected files and folders.
>> > ...
>> > 
>> >
>> > and they have a shopping cart running on the site, on IIS 6.0?, I hope
>> not.
>> >
>> >
>> > Would you trust your data with MS?? I won't.
>> >
>> > What do the rest of you guys say?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > IIS 6.0
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > #---
>> > regds,
>> >
>> > Boh Heong, Yap
>> >
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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia Secure Email Server

[Hanxue Lee]

Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
(email) which is already well established in the private sector.

The article did say

"Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
one-stop web portal for government services."

To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop
solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to
Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ?


Best regards,
Hanxue



On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness wrote:

> phew...50m
>
> even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they
> trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way
> to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector
> (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server
> inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist.
>
> maybe someone should poke "him".
>
> if i got that job,50m.i will _.:D
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
> > hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
> >
> >
> http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/
> >
> > the above article "Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the
> > 1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the
> > information technology firm which is at risk of being delisted..."
> >
> > The 1 Malaysia Mail Server is meant to provide secure email services
> > to Malaysians for their dealings with the government, and to counter
> > the fact that a lot of the free email accounts are hosted on servers
> > outside of Malaysia, and hence expose the data
> >
> > 50M to 'develop' a 'secure' email server for Malaysians to use??
> >
> > And they are going to use MS technology to do it ??!
> >
> > 
> > The Malaysia Insider understands that the 1 Malaysia email service
> > will be using software from Microsoft, the company that now owns the
> > free Hotmail account service that has been eclipsed by another free
> > email provider, Google Inc.
> > 
> >
> > 
> > The 1 Malaysia email service is part of Najib’s Economic
> > Transformation Programme (ETP) to achieve developed nation status by
> > 2020. He said today the RM50 million investment will have a gross
> > national income (GNI) impact of RM39 million up to 2015 and will
> > enhance delivery of public services.
> > 
> >
> > Well, well, well. something funny is going on.
> > There are perfectly good FLOSS email software, crypto tools etc... and
> > we (among OSDC) certainly have the manpower & skills to implement and
> > deploy such solutions.
> >
> > Even if a 'bunch of FLOSS' developers cannot do so immediately, giving
> > funding to the community will allow them to build the skills and
> > knowledge within 1 year, to do so; and have that knowledge shared and
> > benefiting a larger community rather than 1 single company!
> >
> > And can we do this with 1m, no problem! Even if you spend another 1-5m
> > for HW ( 1m will buy about  160 or 4 racks full of 1u servers, which
> > is enough to build a decent cloud...), and even if we DOUBLE all those
> > numbers, that figure won't go anywhere near 50m!
> >
> > A quick look at their website,  shows they
> > are using IIS-6.0, not exactly a very secure option. A quick google
> > found this bit:
> >
> >
> http://cyberinsecure.com/microsoft-iis6-vulnerability-exposes-websites-sensitive-files-and-passwords/
> >
> > 
> > Microsoft IIS6 Vulnerability Exposes Website’s Sensitive Files And
> Passwords
> >
> > Security experts are urging administrators using Microsoft’s Internet
> > Information Services version 6 to exercise extreme care following the
> > discovery that the popular web server is vulnerable to a simple attack
> > that exposes password-protected files and folders.
> > ...
> > 
> >
> > and they have a shopping cart running on the site, on IIS 6.0?, I hope
> not.
> >
> >
> > Would you trust your data with MS?? I won't.
> >
> > What do the rest of you guys say?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > IIS 6.0
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > #---
> > regds,
> >
> > Boh Heong, Yap
> >
> > --
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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia Secure Email Server

[darXness darXness]

phew...50m

even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they
trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way
to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector
(sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server
inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist.

maybe someone should poke "him".

if i got that job,50m.i will _.:D

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
> hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
>
>   
> http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/
>
> the above article "Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the
> 1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the
> information technology firm which is at risk of being delisted..."
>
> The 1 Malaysia Mail Server is meant to provide secure email services
> to Malaysians for their dealings with the government, and to counter
> the fact that a lot of the free email accounts are hosted on servers
> outside of Malaysia, and hence expose the data
>
> 50M to 'develop' a 'secure' email server for Malaysians to use??
>
> And they are going to use MS technology to do it ??!
>
> 
> The Malaysia Insider understands that the 1 Malaysia email service
> will be using software from Microsoft, the company that now owns the
> free Hotmail account service that has been eclipsed by another free
> email provider, Google Inc.
> 
>
> 
> The 1 Malaysia email service is part of Najib’s Economic
> Transformation Programme (ETP) to achieve developed nation status by
> 2020. He said today the RM50 million investment will have a gross
> national income (GNI) impact of RM39 million up to 2015 and will
> enhance delivery of public services.
> 
>
> Well, well, well. something funny is going on.
> There are perfectly good FLOSS email software, crypto tools etc... and
> we (among OSDC) certainly have the manpower & skills to implement and
> deploy such solutions.
>
> Even if a 'bunch of FLOSS' developers cannot do so immediately, giving
> funding to the community will allow them to build the skills and
> knowledge within 1 year, to do so; and have that knowledge shared and
> benefiting a larger community rather than 1 single company!
>
> And can we do this with 1m, no problem! Even if you spend another 1-5m
> for HW ( 1m will buy about  160 or 4 racks full of 1u servers, which
> is enough to build a decent cloud...), and even if we DOUBLE all those
> numbers, that figure won't go anywhere near 50m!
>
> A quick look at their website,  shows they
> are using IIS-6.0, not exactly a very secure option. A quick google
> found this bit:
>
> http://cyberinsecure.com/microsoft-iis6-vulnerability-exposes-websites-sensitive-files-and-passwords/
>
> 
> Microsoft IIS6 Vulnerability Exposes Website’s Sensitive Files And Passwords
>
> Security experts are urging administrators using Microsoft’s Internet
> Information Services version 6 to exercise extreme care following the
> discovery that the popular web server is vulnerable to a simple attack
> that exposes password-protected files and folders.
> ...
> 
>
> and they have a shopping cart running on the site, on IIS 6.0?, I hope not.
>
>
> Would you trust your data with MS?? I won't.
>
> What do the rest of you guys say?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> IIS 6.0
>
>
>
> --
> #---
> regds,
>
> Boh Heong, Yap
>
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