Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
foxx;539200 Wrote: > > > Also a question to the experts. I had read earlier that the Touch would > make a USB drive available on the home network. So far I have not been > able to figure out how this works. Any suggestions? USB sharing is turned on by: settings>advanced/USB and SD Storage Click on Sharing>Enable Sharing. You should then see the drive under windows IF your workgroup is WORKGROUP. If your workgroup is a different name you have to change the Touch workgroup which is a bit more complicated. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] FatFinger Skin for Touch
erland;539201 Wrote: > It's now available through Patch Installer, I adjusted the patch a bit > and removed the conflicting issues and it can now be used on both 7.5.0 > and all 7.5.1 releases so far. > Looks like everything is in there. I suspect the main difference is that I started out using the actual Squeezeplay file, and then SCP'd it to my Touch. In hindsight, I suppose I should have more-or-less done the reverse, and brought the files over first, edited, tested, and sent them back. Live and learn... Thanks for hosting - still getting used to this whole patch routine. -Dan -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77767 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
JohnSwenson;539218 Wrote: > WEP 128. I have an old laptop in the house that doesn't support WPA. > > I suppose I could try WPA for a while and see what happens. > > John S. I just tried WPA2 and had no difference in performance, CPU utilization was essentially the save, still no dropouts at all. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
mkt;539198 Wrote: > What WiFi security are you using? WPA? WEP 128. I have an old laptop in the house that doesn't support WPA. I suppose I could try WPA for a while and see what happens. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Gaz, should we get Stan Beresford to remove this from the literature that he provides with his dacs: 'Burn in Many users report that the sound output develops in quality after a few tens of hours of use' Looks like this issue is as sensentive as cables so perhaps its best to just agree to disagree? -- Covenant Covenant's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36495 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
pounce;539014 Wrote: > What version are you running? 7.5.0 r8673 John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Sit in a quiet room with a ticking clock. After a while you'll stop hearing the clock. What's happened? Obvious really, the clock has burned-in and is sounding much better. -- KMorgan - Sorry, can't spare enough hours today for that 5 min job on the computer. KMorgan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wake On LAN
I've got a problem with WOL too: When I put my touch (connected to SBS) into standby (playing stopped), the SBS goes to sleep after 5min, just as I configured it to do. Very soon after that, the SBS wakes up again, then goes asleep after another 5 minutes, wakes up again, and so on. This is annoying because the SBS is in my bedroom and forces me to pull the plug out of the touch. I have a radio too and that is working as expected - the SBS goes into standby 5 minutes after I put the radio into standby (or turn it off) and wakes up as soon as I start the radio. -- marlo marlo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37542 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69138 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] FatFinger Skin for Touch
plympton;539141 Wrote: > > PS: Erland tells me this patch might be 7.5.1+ only, as it failed on > his 7.5 machine. Buyer beware, you get what you pay for, etc. > It's now available through Patch Installer, I adjusted the patch a bit and removed the conflicting issues and it can now be used on both 7.5.0 and all 7.5.1 releases so far. I think it still does the same thing but feel free to check it and if those conflicting parts really need to be there we can add specific versions for each firmware version. I suspect the conflict was caused by that you started developing on an early 7.5.1 version and then created the patch file based on the latest 7.5.1 version, the result is that your original patch basically removed some of the changes made by Logitech recently in 7.5.1. The updated patch file is found here: http://erlandapplets.googlecode.com/svn/PatchInstaller/trunk/patches/FatFingerSkin/FatFingerSkin.patch End users will of course install it through the third party Patch Installer applet. Also, the images wasn't stored inside the "images" sub directory in your zip so I've moved those inside a "images" directory too. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77767 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] FatFinger Skin for Touch
plympton;539141 Wrote: > > PS: Erland tells me this patch might be 7.5.1+ only, as it failed on > his 7.5 machine. Buyer beware, you get what you pay for, etc. > It's now available through Patch Installer, I adjusted the patch a bit and removed the conflicting issues and it can now be used on both 7.5.0 and all 7.5.1 releases so far. I think it still does the same thing but feel free to check it and if those conflicting parts really need to be there we can add specific versions for each firmware version. I suspect the conflict was caused by that you started developing on an early 7.5.1 version and then created the patch file based on the latest 7.5.1 version, the result is that your original patch basically removed some of the changes made by Logitech recently in 7.5.1. The updated patch file is found here: http://erlandapplets.googlecode.com/svn/PatchInstaller/trunk/patches/FatFingerSkin/FatFingerSkin.patch End users will of course install it through the third party Patch Installer applet. Also, the images wasn't stored inside the "images" sub directory in your zip so I've moved those inside a "images" directory too. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77767 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
Just got my Touch yesterday and set it up using a 500GB CN Memory USB drive. It scanned and even PLAYED music which I didn't figure to be on the drive at all. It had been deleted long ago. Only after formatting the drive and recopying my current music to it, it was gone. The touch obiously doesen't care for virtual order. It scans what is physically available. It was kind of spooky listening to music and seeing cover art, which I wasn't even aware of owning. Also a question to the experts. I had read earlier that the Touch would make a USB drive available on the home network. So far I have not been able to figure out how this works. Any suggestions? -- foxx foxx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36364 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is there any way to adjust the spectrum display?
Yeah, I thinks it's actually two spectrum displays mirror imaged against each other. But why there is much crud in the corner, that I haven't figured yet . On some music it flashes pretty ok :) but stil it has a basic high level onthe corner bars ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77783 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
JohnSwenson;538770 Wrote: > Tonight I tried and tried to get it to stutter or do anything wrong and > nothing worked, it played flawlessly no matter what. 24/96 -8 flac, > over WiFi to the server with spectrum analyzer or VU meters, long name > so text scrolling in the now playing screen. I tried slideshow over > WiFi as well. It just sat there and worked. > > Its hard to debug something when when you can't make it happen. > > The worst average CPU was about 50% which was when using VU meters. > Once every several minutes the CPU utilization would go up to 95% for a > very short time, but still no interruption to the music. The spikes > didn't seem to have any relation to the music, it wasn't at the > beginning or end of a track, just somewhere in the middle. > > The VU meters were interesting, when playing a 16/44,1 wav file turning > on the VU meters increased the CPU usage a lot, but when playing a 24/96 > -8 flac turning on the VU meters made hardly any difference. > > John S. What WiFi security are you using? WPA? -- mkt mkt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14921 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
sckramer;538974 Wrote: > I heard you can attach a capacitor (low pass filter) to the actual DSD > stream & send it to your preamp -- & you get the music, no conversion, > no nothing, it's that close to analog > > (or something like that) "A violation of the DMCAs anti-trafficking provision may extend to publication or dissemination of information about how to circumvent an access control measure." See footnote 4 on the following webpage: http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/DMCA_Exemptions_to_the_Prohibition_on_Circumvention -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
JJZolx;539177 Wrote: > Watching Logitech roll out a new Squeezebox product is always like > watching a train wreck in slow motion. Emphasis on the "slow motion" portion. I was forutnate to get mine from Crutchfield right before their stock was depleted. I don't see any indication of when either Crutchfield or Amazon will be getting stock. Amazon only has availability through some questionable marketplace stores. When you see an Amazon marketplace outfit with 2 reviews selling the Touch, you have to wonder. Things that make you go "hm". $50 is significant. Depending on your situation, I'd wait. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
Watching Logitech roll out a new Squeezebox product is always like watching a train wreck in slow motion. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
I was told by a wholesaler that only a very few select big box stores were getting the Touch but it would be after the big gun Online Retailers supply chain was full. He was told that yes they could order them, but they would not be getting any stock anytime soon. He said I would be better off ordering from Logitech, Amazon, Crutchfield, or J&R. I don't think Best Buy is going to carry them in the stores but might sell them as an online order item similar to the Controller. Which I think is a big mistake as Best Buy could be one of the few big box stores to carry the Touch and make a killing. Best Buy is to busy selling Sonos, Sony, and iPod/iPhone dock items though. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Is there any way to adjust the spectrum display?
The one that shows the modulating bar levels as the music is playing? It seems that on my display it almost always looks like a cutaway view of a box. That is, the bars on the left and right extreme are always at their max and the 18 or so in the middle flicker rarely more than a tick or two. -- tonyptony tonyptony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77783 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Local Music Server Stopped
I am having trouble getting my touch to play from my attached hard drive for more than a couple songs at a time. After a few songs the music stops playing and I get an error which says "local music service has been stopped due to a problem" At that point I have to reconnect to the squeezebox server before I can play music again. Anybody else having this problem or have any idea on how to fix this? Thanks! -- KJAM KJAM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7943 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77782 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Analog Output Stage
You have at least one other interested party! :-) -- tonyptony tonyptony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77716 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
How many have purchased a Touch from someplace other than Logitech? The usual online vendors seem to be back ordered for quite a while now or say "coming soon". Some of the other vendors that sell Squeezebox products have no mention of the Touch at all. It seems the only place to get one is directly from Logitech or from some internet vendors I've never heard of. Is Logitech planning on selling them exclusively, or did they only make a few thousand of them and that's it? The entire roll out of this product seems very strange to me. The reviews of the Touch sound promising, but I'm considering canceling my order with Crutchfield and waiting this out a little longer. Or, pony up and spend the extra $50 (thanks to a Crutchfield coupon) to purchase one from Logitech instead. What are everyone's thoughts on the future availability of this product? -- johsti johsti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
maggior;539159 Wrote: > It's from a comic strip...it's a joke. I did not realize Gazjam was being serious until his last post! :) -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Gazjam;539153 Wrote: > And that graph counts as scientific proof??? > The lines aren't even straight! > > A small glass of warm coke for that one.. > Any more? > :) > > back to my OP... > I wanted to get some experienced opinions, split down the middle I'd > say. > Ill see if the Touch/my ears/brain has changed over the next week. > > Thanks! It's from a comic strip...it's a joke. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
And that graph counts as scientific proof??? The lines aren't even straight! A small glass of warm coke for that one.. Any more? :) back to my OP... I wanted to get some experienced opinions, split down the middle I'd say. Ill see if the Touch/my ears/brain has changed over the next week. Thanks! -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] TouchServer Synchronisation
Same problem here...I can't get multiple players to sync with my Touch for extended periods of time either. I am trying to sync the Touch with two SB3s and one Boom. Even if can get all of the players to sync together, the touch usually stops playing after a few minutes and I do believe it happens just before a new song is about to begin. -- KJAM KJAM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7943 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77749 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch: losseless wma support missing?
Yes in this case trancoding is not an option, M$ would not allow this for other OS than windows for WMA lossles. And beside how powerfull is the NV+ ? maybe transcoding is not an option anyhow (to many nas'es are underpowered.) dBpoweramp batch converter then ? or fobar2000 or ... whatever. There is many programs that can convert in one go. Note *backup youre music before doing something like this* -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77768 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] The Ing is coming
erland;538945 Wrote: > What browsing functionality are you missing ? > Erland, my Custom Browse menus are broken with the Touch interface. In particular, Play All does not work. The play button on the remote works fine. I probably should do a formal bug report (where?) The problem is similar to those I had with iPeng, and which I've already discussed here at length with Pippen. So far what I like about the Touch: * Being able to choose different radio streams. * Doubles as a nice looking digital clock. It does seem to have brought sound quality up a notch even using the digital coax out, but that may just be the coolness factor affecting my judgement. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77728 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
Daverz;539139 Wrote: > I don't see a reason that a whole host of digital effects could not be > offered in the interface. The needed software (e.g. sox) is there. Would only work if you have a squeeseboxserver on a fairly powerfull machine. not onboard the Touch itself. It's must be much more efficient to implement on the Touch itself. It has two channels and volume ok. Therefore technically there must exist an volume control for each channel. So this is possible I think ? an enhancement request in bugzilla maybe . The old ip3k players do not have an iota of cpu or ram left, so this has been "impossible" on them. Touch should be able to do this. Nb, I think that the touch has far to little cpu to run any Eq or anything like that. I'm just saying, this is the next question that usually pops up. (boom accomplish this by having an onboard dsp processor, same dsp does the x-overs etc) -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Gazjam;539067 Wrote: > Cold pint of your favourite beer to anyone who can tell us "self > delusionists" we need help (*) > > > > > > > > (*) NB has to be in a non condesending manner ;) > > PS I am a complete subjectivist...you cant measure the important stuff! Will this do..? :) http://xkcd.com/373/ +---+ |Filename: the_data_so_far.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9738| +---+ -- Peter314 Peter314's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14028 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] FatFinger Skin for Touch
Just checked. I am using the touch skin full-time, as I like it better. But this is the Touch skin (WQVGASmall, to be exact), so it doesn't touch the IR skin at all. The different skins are completely hard coded for the most part, so it's a lot of trial-and-error changing values, etc. PS: Erland tells me this patch might be 7.5.1+ only, as it failed on his 7.5 machine. Buyer beware, you get what you pay for, etc. -Dan -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77767 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch: losseless wma support missing?
nope, running server from a Netgear NAS NV+ Is the only solution conversion. a hell of a job.. -- seth_space seth_space's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77768 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
I don't see a reason that a whole host of digital effects could not be offered in the interface. The needed software (e.g. sox) is there. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Performance comparison between my old Server and Touch internal one?
Gazjam;538944 Wrote: > > Think for the moment I'll stick to using the USB for pictures for the > Image Viewer screensaver. > Thanks for the replies guys. The builtin server starts up whenever you plug in a USB drive (or SD card) even if you are just using it for pictures. If you are using an external server its probably a good idea to manually kill the builtin server. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77733 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
I don't see a reason that a whole host of digital effects could be offered in the interface. The needed software (e.g. sox) is there. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Looking for good backup program
exile;539132 Wrote: > if you're looking for a good mirroring backup program i recommend Deja > Vu. it has worked flawlessly for me and i'm on a mac as well. +1 for Deja Vu. davep -- davep davep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77755 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
I can imagine some sort of burn in for speakers when they are new since they have some moving parts. I can imagine letting your equipment warm to the operating temperature might make some difference. Maybe 5 minutes. I can also imagine letting electronics run for a few days when you get them might held you uncover any defects in manufacturing quicker since things typically fail in the first few days. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Looking for good backup program
if you're looking for a good mirroring backup program i recommend Deja Vu. it has worked flawlessly for me and i'm on a mac as well. -- exile exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77755 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Gazjam wrote: > We used to believe the earth was flat, science at the time could even > prove it... The ancient Greeks not only knew that the earth was a sphere, they calculated the diameter and were amazingly accurate. The story of Columbus is a myth, a lot of like burn in for electronics. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Gazjam;539118 Wrote: > Just a thought... > > We used to believe the earth was flat, science at the time could even > prove it... The physics behind this tech is well defined and tested. The earth being flat was not well defined or tested. Course your statement does support my "The SB Touch is nothing short of a freakin mircale" :) -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] FatFinger Skin for Touch
Nice. Is the screen dump a Touch mode pic (assuming)? Or is it an IR mode pic and if not what happens when I use the Touch in IR mode? Does it get to big and mess up the graphics? -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77767 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
no, probably because that's usually a function of the preamp or receiver, not the source. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Just a thought... We used to believe the earth was flat, science at the time could even prove it... -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] TouchServer Synchronisation
generally I leave "now playing" up - occasionally I hit the main area rather than 'back' to get to the menus, then I need to cycle through all options to get back to "now playing" - thats when I noticed that despite the stream stuttering/rebuffering - the high load displays still worked! Touch is wired - radio and receiver are wired via Homeplug. Is anyone sync'ing multiple players? if so how big is your music collection? -- DigitalMitch 2 * SB3, 1 * Boom, 2 * SBR, 1 * Radio and 1 * Touch controlled by IR, SBC [and iPeng on iPhone - wifi died!!] 7.5.0 on WHS on HP MediaSmart (EX470) upgraded to 2G RAM http://www.last.fm/user/digimich DigitalMitch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15999 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77749 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
any way to adjust the balance (aka pan L or R)? -- ratso Emerald Physics CS2.3's - Odyssey Stratos/Khartago amps (coming soon) - Supratek Chardonnay Preamp - Slim Devices Touch - Panamax M4300PM power conditioner - KRK Ergo room correction - Cables by Me! ratso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] TouchServer Synchronisation
Are the Touch wireless ? A wireless server is not such a good idea ? Especially not with such a ligthweigth hardware Touch wifi can use some cpu especially if it's going to sync (I think) -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77749 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
Dogberry2;539032 Wrote: > Did everybody follow the logic here? It goes like this: > > 1) Notec couldn't get the Duet to work > 2) Therefore Notec concludes the Duet doesn't work, and calls it a POS > 3) It then follows that nobody's Duet works > 4) Conclusion: People who say their Duets work are lying or deluded > You missed his "real" conclusion: 5) Therefore the Touch is useless. Holy non sequitur Batman! -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Ali Tait;539031 Wrote: > I've certainly heard changes in things like new coupling caps in my > valve amps,and no I didn't imagine it,because they can sound bass heavy > one day,and very toppy the next while they break in.I can't say I > noticed any change in the Touch though.Sounded great straight out of > the box.Wonder how long they are run for in the factory? I'm afraid that you are imaging it or if your not, I can tell you its not your capacitors. Once a capacitor is fully charged, especially a coupling capacitor (which is basically instantaneously), they have a constant and exactly the same effect on the signal passing through them until they go bad. There are no moving parts in fixed capacitors, most charge instantaneously, there is no such thing as burn-in or break-in with fixed capacitors because once fully charged they do their job the same time after time exactly the same, especially the ones in the signal path. Again the reason the Touch sounded great right out of the box is because there is no such thing as burn-in to effect a modern electronic devices sound! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch: losseless wma support missing?
Welcome to the forum :) The Touch can not play WMA lossles by itself. But if you run the server on a Windows machine it should transcode to flac on the fly. Do you have flac.exe installed ? In the web-UI for squeezeboxserver settings > advanced > file types If you scroll down a bit to: Code: WMA Lossless FLAC MP3 PCM What are your settings there or are they greyed out ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77768 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] TouchServer Synchronisation
The screensavers take up significant CPU as I understand it, especially the analog VU meter one. Perhaps the CPU is getting maxed out. To avoid the issue, perhaps you could try not using the screensaver and just leave the "now playing" screen up. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77749 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch: losseless wma support missing?
I have about 800GB of lossless WMA files that play great under windows media player but not with the Touch. Any ideas or suggestions.. to convert them would be a hell of a job..brr. running server 7.5.1 -- seth_space seth_space's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77768 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Looking for good backup program
I tried this software back in March, and decided to remove it. Unfortunately, the version I'd installed (up to date at the time) did not uninstall well. It left a task around, but the task description was non-existent, causing launchd to crash / restart constantly. I discovered this only after about a month when debugging some other problem. The logs were littered with crash/error messages deposited every couple of seconds. The problem has since been resolved, as there is an Uninstaller. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77755 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] FatFinger Skin for Touch
I played a bit with my Touch today to modify the NowPlaying screen to better suit my fat fingers - I made the buttons the same size as the Home button, and got rid of the Shuffle and Repeat buttons. Attached is a Zip file with the patch necessary (or just the changed LUA file), as well as 2 modified PNG files for the skin. Enjoy! -Dan +---+ |Filename: FatFingerSkin.zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9736| +---+ -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77767 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Daverz;539083 Wrote: > This is the well-known '-practice effect-' > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Practice_Effect). LOL, a David Brin reference! How appropriate on '-Earth-' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_(novel)) Day I've read Earth and the 1st and 2nd Uplift series of books numerous times. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Looking for good backup program
Do you want a backup program, or do you just want to keep your music on an external drive. For backups I recommend CrashPlan http://www.crashplan.com -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77755 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What is the hardware version of your Touch?
25 No, only kidding. It's version 5 -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels -> Snatch -> The Transporter -> Transporter 2 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77754 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Phil Leigh;538976 Wrote: > > 2) The mere fact that (audio) equipment ALWAYS sounds better after > being burned-in > This is the well-known '-practice effect-' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Practice_Effect). -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch UI Questions (fixes?)
erland;539029 Wrote: > It should now be available through Patch Installer, I had to adjust > spaces/tabs to make it possible to apply but besides that it's your > changes. I should probably change the Patch Installer applet so it > applies the patch with the -l flag which ignore differences in white > spaces. That's probably because I copy/pasted it on my Mac or PC (forget which), and I'm sure it bunged up the spacing. Thanks for that! I've been playing around with the UI a bit today, and have a "FatFingerSkin" that I'm going to post. What would be the best way to distribute something that? It's a LUA file and 2 modified PNG's (weird background image "bug" - you can't resize them, apparently) -Dan -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77679 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] TouchServer Synchronisation
Looks like you found the bug I opened: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16102 I agree it looks real similar...hopefully they will assign it and start working on it! -Dan -- danull danull's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5998 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77749 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
Actually on another thread hes singing the praises of the Touch...so the guys firmly got his tongue in his cheek methinks Americans huh? What you gonna do? :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
pfarrell;538983 Wrote: > Phil Leigh wrote: > > 2) The mere fact that (audio) equipment ALWAYS sounds better after > > being burned-in really should give you pause for thought. Why would > > this be? > > Its clearly the mind resolving the standard buyer's remorse. > > Nothing more. > > > 4) Human audio memory is rubbish. > > +1 > > > > -- > Pat Farrell > http://www.pfarrell.com/ No remorse here Pat, I bloody love it! Would that be Buyers Elation? :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to check the progress of a scan of the USB drive?
I think something is wacky with MySB.com today, I've seen all kinds of strange things. Including Touch unable to use any MySB.com features like Apps. Though I did not get any password error message on my Touch. But it is all working now on Touch. Maybe try in a little bit. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to check the progress of a scan of the USB drive?
It's still working today, but the mysqueezebox login fails again with an unknown password error. I'll live without the apps anyway as I'm frightened of ejecting the USB or I'll have another mammoth scan to look forward to. You say 30k files is a lot but, winamp handles it easily enough on a PC. If each file had 1kBytes of tags, it's still only 30Mbytes, hardly a lot to hold in internal memory these days. I think I'll avoid touching it for now and live with the slow GUI until there's a software update. btw, do the developers working on this product or the support guys actually read these forums? -- RichardLittlewood RichardLittlewood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37668 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] The Ing is coming
erland;539030 Wrote: > How do you differ between "Audiophile", "Jazz" and "Pop" ? > I'm guessing "Classical" is identified by a specific genre ? I use sub-genres. All tags like 24bit/96kHz, HDCD or Audiophile itself will display in the menu *Audiophile*. Tags like Baroque, Romantic, 20th Century will appear in *Classical* and Blues, Soul, Funk is for the *Jazz* menu. There are also cross-references. A file with the tags Baroque and 24bit/96kHz at the same time will appear in both, *Audiophile* and *Classical*. It's nice to have those sub-genres to create random mixes, but I would simplify all my genres if needed in order to make the browsing menu look like I previously posted (I could live without cross-references and without *Audiophile*.) -- Quad Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77728 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Just to add my two ha'penny's worth I used to design precision electronic test equipment. We used to burn it in at elevated temperatures and at higher voltages than normal supply voltages. This had nothing to do with accuracy of the the device, and everything to do with accelerating infant mortality. If the device survived the burn in, then it was probably going to out last the guarantee period. I think that much of the nonsense written about burn-in with hifi gear comes from certain speaker designs where the compliance of the suspension changed during the first few weeks of usage and the speakers sounded better for it. Somehow, with the usual lack of rigor in the hifi press, this got transferred to electronic equipment, and I have even seen an article on burning-in speaker cables.. -- Andy8421 Andy8421's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] The Ing is coming
Quad;539022 Wrote: > Hi Erland > > I don't use all the functionalities of CustomBrowse regularly. > > But my browsing structure looks like this thanks to your plugin: > > -My Music > > ---Audiophile > -Album > > ---Classical > -Composer > ---Album > > ---Jazz > --Artist > Album > > ---Pop > --Artist > Album > How do you differ between "Audiophile", "Jazz" and "Pop" ? I'm guessing "Classical" is identified by a specific genre ? -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77728 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
I've certainly heard changes in things like new coupling caps in my valve amps,and no I didn't imagine it,because they can sound bass heavy one day,and very toppy the next while they break in.I can't say I noticed any change in the Touch though.Sounded great straight out of the box.Wonder how long they are run for in the factory? -- Ali Tait Ali Tait's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
notec;538730 Wrote: > Folks that claim they've never had issues with the duet either: > > 1) rarely use it > 2) have it setup right next to their router > 3) live in a dream world > Did everybody follow the logic here? It goes like this: 1) Notec couldn't get the Duet to work 2) Therefore Notec concludes the Duet doesn't work, and calls it a POS 3) It then follows that nobody's Duet works 4) Conclusion: People who say their Duets work are lying or deluded I think that pretty much says everything we need to know about the aptly-named Notec. Anybody possessing logical and analytical skills that can achieve such a very special degree of reasoning probably has difficulty working a toaster. So it really is no surprise that it was impossible for somebody like that to get a Duet working. People whose brains work that way walk among us, folks. They're even permitted to drive cars. So be careful out there. -- Dogberry2 Dogberry2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch UI Questions (fixes?)
plympton;539006 Wrote: > Can you host it until I can get a handle on hosting it myself? I don't > envision changing this patch very often at this point, and just want to > get it running. It's a good test, too. > It should now be available through Patch Installer, I had to adjust spaces/tabs to make it possible to apply but besides that it's your changes. I should probably change the Patch Installer applet so it applies the patch with the -l flag which ignore differences in white spaces. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77679 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What is the hardware version of your Touch?
JJZolx;538984 Wrote: > Find the hardware version at: > > Settings > Advanced > Diagnostics My second Beta unit is a 5. Turned the first beta in when return requested (old/first CPU model) so I don't know what it was. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77754 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] The Ing is coming
erland;538945 Wrote: > What browsing functionality are you missing ? > > Logitech will never do something as flexible as Custom Browse but if > you can describe exactly which menus/hierarchies that would be needed > for you to accept the built-in server there might be a way to > accomplish something. Hi Erland I don't use all the functionalities of CustomBrowse regularly But my browsing structure looks like this thanks to your plugin: -My Music -Audiophile -Album -Classical -Composer -Album -Jazz -Artist -Album -Pop -Artist -Album If there would be a possibility to browse by composer at the top level together with artist and album, this would already be a huge improvement as the composer field is populated within classical music only. Thanks! -- Quad Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77728 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What is the hardware version of your Touch?
maggior;539013 Wrote: > Is there a reason you are asking? I figured it should be version 5, but was wondering if perhaps it had been updated yet and whether anyone had a later version. Beta testers last year were asked to exchange their earlier beta versions of the Touch and were sent devices showing that they were hardware version 5. IIRC, this was at about the same time that they went to production, before sales were held up due to the software development issues. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77754 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Gazjam;538765 Wrote: > Getting mine today to replace an SB3, looking forward to improved > digital out into my Beresford Dac. > > Most new bits of kit I've had needed some time from new to "bed in" > soundwise. Now the Touch has been out for a while, can any experienced > users comment on if this is the case with the Touch? > > Ta. The Touch is a small and relatively simple electronic wise, consumer product. There is no such thing as 'Burn In" in a device of this type, period! And I don't believe there are any Black Gate capacitors in the Touch that supposedly sound better with age. More importantly, the term 'Burn In' comes from the old days when it was part of a requirement (mainly in gov and mil contracts) to make sure that a component did not die in the first few hours of a product being turned on thus causing a device to be sent out that would go DOA a few hours after being turned on by the purchaser. It has and had nothing to do with how something sounds. Something like ninety-two percent of most electronic component failures occur in the first 72 hours. So companies (and some still do) used to do what they called a Burn-In to protect the company name from field failures that would be found from leaving equipment powered up a few days. It was also used in the days when many things had to be adjusted and aligned at operating temperature. Now mechanical devices like speakers with dynamic drivers can need some break-in to reach their proper sound, but again this is break-in not burn-in. My Touch has sounded the same since the day I turned it on, GREAT! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch UI Questions (fixes?)
Have you posted a bug yet suggesting that the speed of the IR volume control is too slow? If it's bad then it should be fixed, not patched by end users. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77679 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
JohnSwenson;539000 Wrote: > I'm running the official firmware that everybody else should be using. What version are you running? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What is the hardware version of your Touch?
Is there a reason you are asking? -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77754 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] No Access to My Apps with internal server
Yep same here I'm in the UK just voted :-) -- Gomez Gomez's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12739 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77465 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What is the hardware version of your Touch?
5 Steve. -- SteveEast Home: 3*SB3, 1*Boom, 4*Radio running 7.4.1 on Acer Aspire easyStore H340 WHS. Cabin: 1*Touch running 7.5.0 on itself. SteveEast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4193 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77754 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What is the hardware version of your Touch?
5 -- verypsb 1x Boom, 1x Classic, 2x Duet, 1x Touch verypsb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77754 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch UI Questions (fixes?)
erland;538708 Wrote: > > Let me know if you want me to host it in my Google Code project and > I'll add it as soon as I've got the patch file from you. Can you host it until I can get a handle on hosting it myself? I don't envision changing this patch very often at this point, and just want to get it running. It's a good test, too. Patch attached - works on 7.5.1 nightlies (7.5+?) on Touch (Fab4?) Thanks! -Dan +---+ |Filename: VolumeSpeed-1.0.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9730| +---+ -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77679 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
mikkeldaase;538807 Wrote: > Ok, > but would you have to do a rescan like that everytime you added new > songs? It wont just add to the allready established library, or let you > add to it manually? > > mikkel What is supposed to happen is that after the initial scan is complete subsequent drive attachments start a quick scan where it is just comparing date and time of the files against the database, this is much faster than a full scan. Of course it will take longer to check the dates on 50,000 files than it will on 10,000 files, but its much faster than a full scan. If it finds and new or updated audio files it will scan just those files. Unfortunately I think some people are having a situation where the initial scan fails for some reason leaving a corrupted database on the disk. Thus at the next attachment it can't do the quick scan and has to start over again. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What is the hardware version of your Touch?
5 -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77754 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
pounce;538874 Wrote: > What firmware version are you running? > > I think you mentioned you were a beta customer. Do you know if the > hardware you have is production spec? > > Out of curiosity, what 24/96 tracks are you using and are these > available to the public somewhere? Wondering if we can start you taking > a methodical approach to testing that can be repeated by others. I'm running the official firmware that everybody else should be using. Yes the Touch I have is identical to the ones you can buy. The only difference is the labels on the remote control. The 24/96 files I'm using are some recordings I made myself and some upsampled 44.1 files. I don't see any particular differnce between these two groups. Currently I don't have any commercial 24/96 files. For those having problems with wireless connection to an external server have you tried streaming PCM instead of flac? I get no dropouts either way. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any fix out there for missing album artwork?
gellie;538928 Wrote: > I already see the artwork when i open the album art tab. Am i suppose to > past it somewhere else? Yep, you see it. So now right click on the art and select COPY. Then within the same place (where the art already is), right click and select PASTE. I know this sounds crazy (hey, why am I pasting art when it is already there). But it is not really 'there'. It is in the ITUNES database, but NOT embedded in the song file. Doing what I suggested will embed it. Then wherever you use this file the art work will show up (including squeezeboxserver) -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77704 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
garym;538993 Wrote: > p.s. Received my TOUCH today and will play with it this weekend. I > guess I shouldn't compare it to my Transporter until after the burn-in. > ;-) But do tell us if it sounds great the first 1/2 hr... -- shevans SB Touch, TeddySB3 (PSU), QED Digit & Positron PSU, NVA P90sa passive pre-amp, NVA A40 monoblock's, Fostex FE206E based big purple people eaters! The Caiman+ went back... shevans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32505 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
JohnSwenson;538759 Wrote: > Thats why I said to plug it into a laptap rather than a router or switch > on the LAN. Most people are not running a software DHCP server on their > laptop so connecting direct to a laptop will make a connection without > servicing the DHCP request. > > John S. That's what I did and I don't have a software DHCP server running on my laptop. My Touch had a IP address (192.168.1.5) assigned to it by DHCP already so I did the method you described in your first post and chose a new static IP address (192.168.1.144). Then I reconnected to my wireless network. After that I checked the diagnostics screen on my Touch and those two IP addresses where blinking back and forth. I thought maybe the static IP I chose would show up after I rebooted my Touch but only the old DHCP assigned IP showed up. I repeated the same steps after I turned off DHCP on my router, (turning DHCP back on after I saw my static IP show up in the diagnostics screen) and now I have a static IP. -- oofda oofda's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
I'm so far from dead wrong based on science and electronics that I don't know where to begin. But instead I'll just say, +1 to what Phil said. And I also truly believe if it makes one feel better to think that burn-in has made their components sound better, then more power to you. After all, this is all just for fun and personal enjoyment. p.s. Received my TOUCH today and will play with it this weekend. I guess I shouldn't compare it to my Transporter until after the burn-in. ;-) -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Phil - some people believe cables "burn-in" :) Maybe if you apply upwards of 10kV and several 100s of amps you might see a "change" to a cable. So trying to straighten someone out of the thought that burn-in of a digital device like the Touch is a myth is a long road if they think their copper changes the way it sounds by apply a few volts to it. Heck is far as they are concerned what happens inside the Touch is nothing short of a freakin miracle. I think the burn-in myth probably started with speakers where burn-in actually does have some merit since you are talking about a device that has an elastic component that does change a good bit depending on the make as it is used. But pretty much everything else is either pretty static or "formed" within seconds of first use. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Looking for good backup program
to use on my external HD. am using a Mac w/ a Toshiba HD. Looking for something seemless so when i hook it up to my mac it will reconize the new music i downloaded or changes i made. Thx -- gellie gellie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77755 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What is the hardware version of your Touch?
5 -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77754 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Phil Leigh;538976 Wrote: > I don't want to upset anybody (honestly) but: > > 1) burn-in testing as described in the links posted earlier is about > stress testing (often to destruction) to determine mortality rates etc, > especially in high voltage, high risk components. The sort of components > found in audio gear are rather different - except for large caps used in > valve HT circuits. The burn-in described here is not about "burning them > in to make them better" it's about "burning them in to see if/when they > fail" > > 2) The mere fact that (audio) equipment ALWAYS sounds better after > being burned-in really should give you pause for thought. Why would > this be? - after all, we know that actually electrolytic caps begin to > deteriorate as soon as you start using them... What law of the universe > determines that burn-in is always beneficial to audio quality? Have you > EVER heard anyone say "it sounded great at first then it got worse..." > No, thought not. The reason is simple. It is NOT happening in physical > reality. > > 3) Over a year ago I got my Touch. In preparation for this very > question I made some recordings (24/192) of the analogue and digital > outputs when it was just out of the box, after 1 week, 1 month and > nearly 12 months. AudioDiffMaker finds nothing different in these > recordings. > > 4) Human audio memory is rubbish. We are (mostly) great at pitch, > rhythm/timing, harmony, melody and timbre. Very poor at everything > else. The brain on the other hand is the most powerful and elegant > thing in creation... > > 5) I really hope no-one believes that the digital circuits "burn-in". I > just can't recall the last time I felt my new computer improved its > speed and crispness of image, disk read speed etc during its first few > days/weeks of usage... The analogue circuit of the Touch comprises the > DAC chip, two caps and a resistor. These are not the sort of caps that > "burn-in" (form). > > > None of this matters. What matters is that you like the sound, now that > you are used to it. +1 Having an electronics background from years ago, burn-in to me was always about running electonics over a long period of time to gain confidence that none of the components would fail due to infant mortality. It was about improving performance or making then work better. Yes, the brain and how it affects perception is very powerful. In a completely different area - has you car ever run smoother, faster, etc. because you washed and waxed it? Because you changed the oil? Mine has :-). And I'm still not immune. I recently had my car detailed and I swear my car runs better. Does it really? Of course not, but my brain perceives it as such. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch hard drive on net?
DigitalMitch;538796 Wrote: > be aware though that sharing uses some load on the Touch, so if you are > stretching it (large library, browsing pictures, etc) and experience > problems, then it may be best to turn off sharing. For support purposes the server logs are always shared by the Touch, so Samba is always running. The only thing that turning sharing on or off does is control whether the SD or USB media are shared by Samba. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77709 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] What is the hardware version of your Touch?
Find the hardware version at: Settings > Advanced > Diagnostics -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77754 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Phil Leigh wrote: > 2) The mere fact that (audio) equipment ALWAYS sounds better after > being burned-in really should give you pause for thought. Why would > this be? Its clearly the mind resolving the standard buyer's remorse. Nothing more. > 4) Human audio memory is rubbish. +1 -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Analog Output Stage
tonyptony;538892 Wrote: > Interesting. So how does it sound once done? (I'd be surprised if you > hadn't tried this yet!) I actually haven't done it yet. I'm trying to keep a completely stock unit so I can make comparisons and evaluations that will match what others will be hearing. When I get my next Touch I'll be modding this one, for sure the cap is the first thing to go! John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77716 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] No Access to My Apps with internal server
thanks to Mickey Gee who has raised this as a bug http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16105 vote if it affects you. I had given support a chance to see how they performed so Mickey beat me to the bug. -- DigitalMitch 2 * SB3, 1 * Boom, 2 * SBR, 1 * Radio and 1 * Touch controlled by IR, SBC [and iPeng on iPhone - wifi died!!] 7.5.0 on WHS on HP MediaSmart (EX470) upgraded to 2G RAM http://www.last.fm/user/digimich DigitalMitch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15999 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77465 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Analog Output Stage
struts;538920 Wrote: > But this is decoupling the RCA outs, right? Does the headphone jack > branch before or after this cap? Sure would be interesting to know the > value.. The cap is 10uf. I did measure the voltage before the cap and it was less than 20mV. I don't remember where the headphone gets tapped off but I think its before the cap. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77716 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
The changes I heard were within the first week, most noticeably the first 6 hours or so. -- shevans SB Touch, TeddySB3 (PSU), QED Digit & Positron PSU, NVA P90sa passive pre-amp, NVA A40 monoblock's, Fostex FE206E based big purple people eaters! The Caiman+ went back... shevans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32505 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
I don't want to up[set anybody (honestly) but: 1) burn-in testing as described in the links posted earlier is about stress testing (often to destruction) to determine mortality rates etc, especially in high voltage, high risk components. The sort of components found in audio gear are rather different - except for large caps used in valve HT circuits. The burn-in described here is not about "burning them in to make them better" it's about "burning them in to see if/when they fail" 2) The mere fact that (audio) equipment ALWAYS sounds better after being burned-in really should give you pause for thought. Why would this be? - after all, we know that actually electrolytic caps begin to deteriorate as soon as you start using them... What law of the universe determines that burn-in is always beneficial to audio quality? Have you EVER heard anyone say "it sounded great at first then it got worse..." No, thought not. The reason is simple. It is NOT happening in physical reality. 3) Over a year ago I got my Touch. In preparation for this very question I made some recordings (24/192) of the analogue and digital outputs when it was just out of the box, after 1 week, 1 month and nearly 12 months. AudioDiffMaker finds nothing different in these recordings. 4) Human audio memory is rubbish. We are (mostly) great at pitch, rhythm/timing, harmony, melody and timbre. Very poor at everything else. The brain on the other hand is the most powerful and elegant thing in creation... 5) I really hope no-one belives that the digital circuits "burn-in". I just can't recall the last time I felt my new computer improved its speed and cripness of image, disk read speed etc during its first few days/weeks of usage... The analogue circuit of the Touch comprise the DAC chip, two caps and a resistor. These are not the sort of caps that "burn-in" (form). None of this matters. What matters is that you like the sound, now that you are used to it. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
I heard you can attach a capacitor (low pass filter) to the actual DSD stream & send it to your preamp -- & you get the music, no conversion, no nothing, it's that close to analog (or something like that) -- sckramer Sb touch -- PS Audio DL3 (Cullen level 3) -- PS Audio Trio C-100 (Cullen level 3) -- energy veritas 2.3i -- Martin Logan descent psaudio ac3 power cables -- psaudio duet -- cardas quadlink 5 interconnect -- Transparent digital cable -- audio quest slate spkr cables biwire sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to check the progress of a scan of the USB drive?
I gave the internal server with a USB drive a second try. My first effort ran for 14 or 15 hours without giving progress info or ever seeming to conclude. While it played music, it was not a satisfactory effort. The external USB drive had about 46,000 songs in a variety of formats - Flac, MP3 and M4A. It is a duplicate of the music on the drive in my server. So, I just played music the old fashioned way (from the main server) for the past 10 days or so. Last night I brought home my off-premises backup drive (another duplicate of the music) to update it with the new material I've added recently. Afterward, I decided to give it a go using the Touch server. Everything seemed to be going well - I got a progress screen that gave a percentage and song count. It seemed like it was going to take about 4 1/2 hours to complete (which roughly matched the 5X multiple for how much longer the Touch server takes to scan compared to a separate server I've seen bandied about.) I went to bed last night at 80% complete and expected to see a nicely running machine this morning. Instead, I woke up to a frozen Touch (needed to hit the reboot button on the back) and an EXT3 drive that looks like it now needs to be fsck'd. There was no power outage or other problem reported by my UPS on the main computer last night. I routinely do a complete database wipe and rescan on the main Squeezeboxserver as I add music and artwork or move things around and have never had an issue. So I don't think there is anything goofy about the music folder. That's two scan failures on two different drives so far for the built-in Touch server. I've had one success with a 2GB flash drive but so far I'm not particularly impressed with the built-in server. Kind of a pity that after a four month release delay to fix these problems, people still seem to having issues. -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
