Re: [ubuntu-uk] for the record

2007-12-07 Thread Chris Rowson
Don't forget crossover linux folks,

If, at the end of the day, people don't want to use OO then you don't
have to use Windows to run Microsoft Office :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] for the record

2007-12-07 Thread alan c
Andrew Jenkins wrote:
> norman wrote:
>> Some time ago, my wife had a new computer and insisted that she
>> wanted Windows instead of Ubuntu. Much of her usage was word
>> processing and she found it difficult to get to grips with Open
>> Office (I don't know why) or so she said. 30 minutes ago she said
>> to me "D... it! I am fed up with all these bl...y messages that
>> stop me getting on with my work and, if Ubuntu will stop that
>> happening, then get rid of Windows and replace it." Needless to
>> say, I am busy downloading Ubuntu 7.10.
>> 
>> Norman
>> 
>> 
> Funny creatures wives, mine always moans about Open Office too.
> She uses the MS version happily though.  I said "You had to learn
> to use MS Office, so why can't you just learn something else too?".
> It seems that the are some who will resist change whatever..and
> I married one... :-)

She is presumably also resisting changing her spouse :-)
- it may have some advantages..

more back on topic :-)   Who does the maintenance on her windows machine?

Time was when we used to rely on windows for everything and I had to
reinstall at least a printer driver regularly - in emergency
conditions usually - and I could not rely on things working as
expected, nor could I rest assured that security was good as hoped for
, even though I was diligent with appropriate applications. Ultimately
I had to make a decision that whether we (both) wanted to or not, we
had to move away from windows! A lot of learning for me, but certainly
worth it in all sorts of ways.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] for the record

2007-12-06 Thread Tony Arnold
Andrew,

Andrew Loughran wrote:
> Andrew Jenkins wrote:
>> norman wrote:
>>   
>>> Some time ago, my wife had a new computer and insisted that she wanted
>>> Windows instead of Ubuntu. Much of her usage was word processing and she
>>> found it difficult to get to grips with Open Office (I don't know why)
>>> or so she said. 30 minutes ago she said to me "D... it! I am fed up with
>>> all these bl...y messages that stop me getting on with my work and, if
>>> Ubuntu will stop that happening, then get rid of Windows and replace
>>> it." Needless to say, I am busy downloading Ubuntu 7.10.
>>>
>>> Norman 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>> Funny creatures wives, mine always moans about Open Office too.  She
>> uses the MS version happily though.  I said "You had to learn to use
>> MS Office, so why can't you just learn something else too?".  It
>> seems that the are some who will resist change whatever..and I
>> married one... :-)
>>
>> Andy Jenkins.
>>
>>   
> I think the moral is "You can change your software, you can change your 
> wife - but you can't change your wife's software."

LOL! But changing your wife because she won't use Ubuntu seems a little
harsh:-)

Regards,
Tony.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] for the record

2007-12-06 Thread Rob Beard
Steve Flynn wrote:
> On Dec 6, 2007 3:02 PM, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Sounds astonishingly like my mother and her recent experiences with
>>> Vista. I'm scheduled to install a flavour of Linux on her machine
>>> (dual boot) over Christmas to give her a taster.
>> As she already has Vista installed on her machine how do you intend to
>> go about the dual boot?
> 
> Install from the Live CD onto a new partition (created with PartEd).
> Grub will detect the existing installation and build and entry into
> the menu for Vista.
> 
> That should pretty much be it.

Yup, that should work.

Or you could use the 'Shrink Partition' option in disk management.  I'd 
say that's the ONLY useful feature of Vista, being able to shrink a 
partition.  Worked a treat on my mate's HP machine running Vista. 
Funnily enough, the Windows installer (the one which creates a file on 
the Windows partition) didn't work.

Maybe Vista is the best marketing exercise for Linux?

Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] for the record

2007-12-06 Thread Rob Beard
norman wrote:
> Some time ago, my wife had a new computer and insisted that she wanted
> Windows instead of Ubuntu. Much of her usage was word processing and she
> found it difficult to get to grips with Open Office (I don't know why)
> or so she said. 30 minutes ago she said to me "D... it! I am fed up with
> all these bl...y messages that stop me getting on with my work and, if
> Ubuntu will stop that happening, then get rid of Windows and replace
> it." Needless to say, I am busy downloading Ubuntu 7.10.
> 
> Norman 
> 
> 

Ahh, you should have an emergency Ubuntu disc in a glass case, in case 
of emergency (i.e. someone seeing the light and dumping Windows) :-)

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] for the record

2007-12-06 Thread Andrew Loughran
Andrew Jenkins wrote:
> norman wrote:
>   
>> Some time ago, my wife had a new computer and insisted that she wanted
>> Windows instead of Ubuntu. Much of her usage was word processing and she
>> found it difficult to get to grips with Open Office (I don't know why)
>> or so she said. 30 minutes ago she said to me "D... it! I am fed up with
>> all these bl...y messages that stop me getting on with my work and, if
>> Ubuntu will stop that happening, then get rid of Windows and replace
>> it." Needless to say, I am busy downloading Ubuntu 7.10.
>>
>> Norman 
>>
>>
>> 
> Funny creatures wives, mine always moans about Open Office too.  She
> uses the MS version happily though.  I said "You had to learn to use
> MS Office, so why can't you just learn something else too?".  It
> seems that the are some who will resist change whatever..and I
> married one... :-)
>
> Andy Jenkins.
>
>   
I think the moral is "You can change your software, you can change your 
wife - but you can't change your wife's software."

:)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] for the record

2007-12-06 Thread Andrew Jenkins
norman wrote:
> Some time ago, my wife had a new computer and insisted that she wanted
> Windows instead of Ubuntu. Much of her usage was word processing and she
> found it difficult to get to grips with Open Office (I don't know why)
> or so she said. 30 minutes ago she said to me "D... it! I am fed up with
> all these bl...y messages that stop me getting on with my work and, if
> Ubuntu will stop that happening, then get rid of Windows and replace
> it." Needless to say, I am busy downloading Ubuntu 7.10.
> 
> Norman 
> 
> 
Funny creatures wives, mine always moans about Open Office too.  She
uses the MS version happily though.  I said "You had to learn to use
MS Office, so why can't you just learn something else too?".  It
seems that the are some who will resist change whatever..and I
married one... :-)

Andy Jenkins.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] for the record

2007-12-06 Thread norman

> > Install from the Live CD onto a new partition (created with PartEd).
> > Grub will detect the existing installation and build and entry into
> > the menu for Vista.
> >
> > That should pretty much be it.
> 
> Addendum - I'll document anything which crops up (and how I fixed it
> or not) if you're still toying/fiddling with dual booting after
> Chrismas

What an excellent idea, could be useful for lots of people.

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] for the record

2007-12-06 Thread Steve Flynn
On Dec 6, 2007 3:38 PM, Steve Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 2007 3:02 PM, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Sounds astonishingly like my mother and her recent experiences with
> > > Vista. I'm scheduled to install a flavour of Linux on her machine
> > > (dual boot) over Christmas to give her a taster.
> >
> > As she already has Vista installed on her machine how do you intend to
> > go about the dual boot?
>
> Install from the Live CD onto a new partition (created with PartEd).
> Grub will detect the existing installation and build and entry into
> the menu for Vista.
>
> That should pretty much be it.

Addendum - I'll document anything which crops up (and how I fixed it
or not) if you're still toying/fiddling with dual booting after
Chrismas

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] for the record

2007-12-06 Thread Steve Flynn
On Dec 6, 2007 3:02 PM, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Sounds astonishingly like my mother and her recent experiences with
> > Vista. I'm scheduled to install a flavour of Linux on her machine
> > (dual boot) over Christmas to give her a taster.
>
> As she already has Vista installed on her machine how do you intend to
> go about the dual boot?

Install from the Live CD onto a new partition (created with PartEd).
Grub will detect the existing installation and build and entry into
the menu for Vista.

That should pretty much be it.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] for the record

2007-12-06 Thread norman

> Sounds astonishingly like my mother and her recent experiences with
> Vista. I'm scheduled to install a flavour of Linux on her machine
> (dual boot) over Christmas to give her a taster.

As she already has Vista installed on her machine how do you intend to
go about the dual boot?

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] for the record

2007-12-06 Thread Steve Flynn
On Dec 6, 2007 2:17 PM, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some time ago, my wife had a new computer and insisted that she wanted
> Windows instead of Ubuntu. Much of her usage was word processing and she
> found it difficult to get to grips with Open Office (I don't know why)
> or so she said. 30 minutes ago she said to me "D... it! I am fed up with
> all these bl...y messages that stop me getting on with my work and, if
> Ubuntu will stop that happening, then get rid of Windows and replace
> it." Needless to say, I am busy downloading Ubuntu 7.10.

Sounds astonishingly like my mother and her recent experiences with
Vista. I'm scheduled to install a flavour of Linux on her machine
(dual boot) over Christmas to give her a taster.

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